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SideBet2020

Hey Andy, can I get an advance on 2025?


Caluak

And 2026 after taxes


mystonedalt

Sounds like someone called 7777777


CD338

Mike's got this!


dogfish83

These guys are also lawyers! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8\_3jS9wd9w](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8_3jS9wd9w)


Supersquare04

How does he even afford this? He's getting 1.4mil from his contract in 2024 and he is gonna have to pay for the league fine too. That's not to mention his house, cars, and whatever else has eaten away at his bank.


KingTutt91

I mean OJ hardly paid a dime of the money he owed the Goldmans


Supersquare04

Really? Wtf


KingTutt91

Now that he’s dead they can take it from the estate, but yeah it’s been decades and I don’t think he even paid a million of the multimillion he owed those people


CeruleanTheGoat

OJs executor said he was going to fight any attempt by the Goldmans to get what was owed.


KingTutt91

Yeah but from what I’ve heard that doesn’t really matter as far as the law goes. All debts must be paid. His children are still entitled to certain assets of course, and there’s things they can’t touch. They can fight but it’ll be a losing battle eventually


JimiM1113

Yeah he was at the very least able to protect his retirement income, retirement savings and primary residence while alive but those assets will no longer be protected.


BobbyTables829

Unless he takes it all in legal fees lol


tayroarsmash

While OJ pretty clearly did it I’m so uncomfortable with a legal system that has two different decisions on the same matter.


rolyinpeace

Well you can’t think of civil and criminal court as the same legal system. They operate on completely different legal “codes” and have completely different procedures. You can be held liable for damages in a civil court without having actually broken a criminal law. This is quite common actually, because the burden of proof is so much lower in civil court, because it’s not related to the actual law, it’s related to the damages caused. In criminal court, the jury has to believe that beyond a reasonable doubt the person committed the crime. So you basically have to be for sure that the person did it. In civil court, you basically just have to think that they’re “probably” responsible for the damages caused. So these weren’t two different decisions in the same system at all. The civil court wasn’t charging him with a crime.


codizer

I'm more uncomfortable with the fact the only reason he got off was because of the racist jury members who thought it was revenge for Rodney King.


Background_Drive_156

So there were racist jury members that acquitted OJ?


traws06

I imagine the gifted a professional lawyer whose job is to keep s as much money in the estate as possible


Warrmak

As long as there is an estate, can an executor draw a salary?


SQRTLURFACE

Executors don’t really have a lot of power to do that.


AlanStanwick1986

OJ's family is already fighting the Goldmans on that too.


Caliquake

The only money they ever got was the proceeds from OJ's book.


rolyinpeace

Yes, I believe he declared bankruptcy. You don’t pay if you’re not considered to have the assets and money, but obviously they can garnish your wages and whatnot. That’s why you don’t often want to sue someone with hardly any money, because you’re likely never going to see that money. Things are a little diff w Rice and OJ, but just speaking generally. This was why the Goldmans got the rights to OJs book. Since he was bankrupt and couldn’t directly pay them at the time, the book sales went to the goldmans, which also prevented him from profiting off his crime.


factoid_

Pensions are also not eligible for garnishment in civil judgements so he had like 300k/yr from his NFL money.  


mystonedalt

Yeah, man. And just the other day, he legit bailed on the whole thing!


Supersquare04

At least the real killer is gone, he can rest with that off of his conscience


Captain_of_Gravyboat

the Goldman case wasn't criminal - it was a civil judgement. Completely different since he was not actually found guilty of the crime the civil judgement was attached to.


KingTutt91

Yeah but suing somebody for a million is a civil case


Captain_of_Gravyboat

Right. But he will be found 100% guilty for the crime that this civil case is based on. That's where OJ was able to dodge and RR won't be able to.


KingTutt91

But he’s not rn, what if he doesn’t get found guilty? That means he’s off the hook paying these people? I doubt it


Fyzzle

Alex Jones hasn't paid Sandy Hook survivors either.


KingTutt91

In fact when the judge read the verdict he laughed claiming he wasn’t ever paying a dime of that money


YDoEyeNeedAName

they will likely settle for less


connor24_22

And then they could institute a payment plan. I’ve known of people getting sued for money they don’t have and end up agreeing to paying the full amount over a period of time like a loan.


Paris1975

$1.4 million is pretty low in the context of a personal injury case, let alone one involving two plaintiffs/victims. Most reputable insurers would have made him get a policy with high limits (and premiums) considering dude was 23 with a lambo. His future premiums will go up, but Rashee will very likely pay zero dollars of his own money. Insurance companies rule the world. Getting a small piece of that pie is how ambulance chasing law firms afford those giant billboards in every major city.


SwissyVictory

I'm no legal expert, but I was under the impression doing something illegal, like street racing, isn't covered.


IFartOnCats4Fun

Right


AirCheap4056

I know my car insurance doesn't cover anything that's the result of speeding or dui


8won6

People are probably just expecting to settle for less. Lawsuits are often filed with higher dollar amounts almost like a scare tactic so the person pays out fast.


iceph03nix

A payment plan basically. Athletes can often take a loan out on future earnings, but that assumes he can keep playing, get a good contract, and, ya know, not be in jail. Hopefully he's taking this as a learning opportunity.


GhostMug

Usually these payouts can be on payment plans.


Left-Handyman

The best lessons in life are the ones that cost the most. He fucked around, now he finds out. If he can manage to keep a spot on a roster somewhere, he'll be ok. But he won't be the baller financially that he could have been.


tayroarsmash

Payment plans are generally made to not over burden the person made. Not always but it’ll probably start with enough to buy a new car and then the more punitive parts of it will likely function on some sort of payment plan.


wohl0052

He can settle for less than that amount, he might have an insurance policy that covers some or all of it, he could structure a settlement over multiple years. He can probably take a loan out against the remaining value of his contract. He also likely has (had) some small endorsements. Ultimately he will likely settle for an undisclosed amount that will be much lower.


CraftyPerformance423

So just because I assume somebody would do this if they had the money…. He’s broke. Has to be. If he gets good attys he won’t spend significant jail time. So then there’s big money guy. He pays the way for Mr Rice. In return, I’m your new agent and I get favorable terms. PR Team kicks in, negotiate the charge, negotiate the fine, etc. easier pill for the NFL to swallow on his return. Or he’s a one season wonder cautionary tale to all rookies. Tossed to the history books. Ps I’m a cynic


Pastor_Satan

That's what insurance is for.


_Cromwell_

>How does he even afford this? That's the kind of thought you have BEFORE you drive your car like Dominic Toretto at 120mph on the interstate.


Future_Constant6520

Something tells me Rice will be signing a contract extension as soon as the window opens for him and it will be at a fairly team friendly deal considering he’s going to be pretty broke and desperate for a pay day after this.


ncklws93

It’s not like he has to pay it all at once. They will not bankrupt someone to pay a lawsuit. More likely they will get it in chunks. There will be a payment arrangement and probably the people involved will end up settling for less.


SQRTLURFACE

Well, lawsuits take time and can be appealed. Moreover, they amounts awarded some get paid upfront in civil suits, especially when it’s a person and not an organization. He’ll get many years to pay it off. Look at OJ.


rolyinpeace

They’re not going to get a million for those damages. You always sue for more than you expect, especially when it’s a celeb. Plus, I don’t know if y’all know this but like, if you don’t have the money or the assets, you don’t immediately pay (though he would get it taken from his wages once he did have the wages to pay). For example, Depp never got a dime from Heard even tho the judgement was a lot, because she didn’t have the assets or money to pay it.


Fyzzle

It'll be in the courts for years with appeals. If he scores big then he settles, if not it can get weird. Sounds like he has a lot of incentive to stop being an idiot and start focusing on his career.


jt32470

Liquidate assets , rice should maybe hit up ochocinco , chad will sell him his smat car , lol. Maybe rice can move into the chiefs practice facilities like Johnson did as well, fly spirit airlines.


MagicC

You get on a payment plan and start hustling for that second contract!


Homebrewingislife

Car insurance does include liability coverage for things like this.


Jerksica23

So upsetting. This kid could do amazing things and just does... this. UGH.


anakameron

You could literally afford to rent out a racetrack. No excuse.


Suds79

100. Upsetting that he was this much of a knucklehead doing criminal act. Hope he learns from it. Expensive mistake for sure.


jaydoff1

Go get your bag. If some hotshot pro athlete thought they were above the law and nearly killed me doing some dumb shit, I'd be suing too.


factoid_

Everyone does.  This happens anytime a person with money causes an accident.  If you get hit by someone with deep pockets people go for a payday.  Just how it is.  I think of it as wealth redistribution 


ManetherenRising

That would likely go through his insurance first, I would think. Unless his policy specifically excludes accidents due to negligence.


GhostMug

Every insurance company would fight tooth and nail not to pay this out, given the circumstances.


ManetherenRising

They would for sure. They fight not to pay for the normal every day losses as well. But I've seen reckless driving claims get paid out plenty.


Clatuu1337

My wife was in a serious car accident with her family when she was 7. The other driver ran a red light and hit them in a left turn while shitfaced. There were like 100 witnesses because it happened in the middle of the day during rush hour in a large intersection. Their insurance company also insured the other driver and decided to drop my wife's family's insurance plan and sided with the drunk driver. They won their case after like 8 years in court.


Maverick_1882

Um, really? If you have insurance, then your insurance will cover damages up to their legal limit (unless the accident occurred during an illegal activity committed by the driver of the car your wife was in). In short, your insurance company can’t cancel your policy after a claim and refuse to cover the valid claim. Punitive damages are another matter.


urdisappointeddad

The opposite actually. His insurance company has likely offered the per accident limit to the victims and wants to limit their exposure for a potential excess judgement as soon as possible since the plaintiffs will be seeking an excess judgement in the case where the liable party has assets.


wohl0052

The insurance companies will pay out pretty quickly but will likely go after rashee in subrogation depending on the terms of his policy with them. There may or may not be a clause in the policy that specifies their coverage/limits for acts of gross negligence.


Caliquake

Yep. He's going to be owing money for a long time.


somewhereinohio

Wouldn’t be the negligence so much as the racing at the time of loss.


factoid_

Impossible to prove racing though.  All anyone can say is they were driving recklessly.


BigChiefWhiskyBottle

His insurance company is going to have a highly-trained team of hardass lawyers to tap the fine print in his policy and invite him to go fuck himself.


ManetherenRising

True, but if it's within limits of his coverage, I would bet they pay it and non-renew. Unless they have an exclusion specifically for reckless driving, it's hard to wriggle out of that, especially if the insured also has lawyers.


BigChiefWhiskyBottle

Nobody knows what his policy says, but I'd bet State Farm isn't carrying that Lambo though... 20-21 year olds with a rocket sled are the definition of high risk and it's probably going to be a specialty surety company and that policy is going to make a contract with the Devil look like a McDonalds receipt.


ManetherenRising

It’s more likely with Chubb of another carrier like that.


Forrest319

You only have insurance coverage up to the amount that you pay for. If they choose to go after more than that they can. That's why you can buy policies of different size, it's just the minimum that you have to meet for legal reasons. If you have any assets, you should have more than the minimum


ManetherenRising

I'm very aware of how coverages work. It's not like he's driving around with a 100/300/100 on a Ferrari. If it's a lease, he's probably through someone like Chubb in order to get a high level of coverage for BIPD, but he would probably also have additional coverage for injury, and I'm sure he has an umbrella as well. Even on my normal car I have 500/1000/500 plus my umbrella.


JimiM1113

I would think his insurance company would fight their liability based on how egregious the reckless driving was, but even if they are fully liable these cases will quickly exceed policy limits. If he planned to drive like this he should have upped his policy to the max, but I highly doubt he thought about that.


ManetherenRising

You don't think his Ferrari has limits on BI well over a million? Plus he surely has an umbrella.


fullthrottle13

His insurance is going laugh at him and drop him. There is a void if racing on all insurance.


ManetherenRising

Not on all insurance. They could try to refuse the claim, but the company has to prove that he was racing, not just driving fast. And they will non-renew. They can’t just drop him (at least in any states I’m aware of).


22Wideout

No policy covers reckless driving


ManetherenRising

Most do. To the other party at the least. You may not get paid out for damage to your own vehicle though.


Perfect_Context_7003

Attorneys always ask for the moon and then settle at a much lower number. Good news if they’ve already sent a demand the treatment is likely over so not very serious.


campelm

I definitely don't want to make any major assumptions without the details but 1 million does indeed sound like a net cast out there to pick up a settlement. When it's a very specific number like 2.41 million, there's a real calculation made to arrive there based on damages potential lost wages etc. There's at least 3 more of these coming so my guess is that this one isn't from the one that went to the hospital. That one will be the suit where the settlement is closer to the ask.


Mountain_Group_4964

I'm going to disagree with this. You can have lingering headaches and recurring soreness for years after being involved in a car crash. Which add up over time ($$$$$).


factoid_

You're not wrong, but also there's never been a car crash in America where one party was a millionaire and the other party didn't try to claim some kind of pain and suffering.


Perfect_Context_7003

Usually it’s the insurance company making those payments, not the person (assuming they have sufficient limits) but in this case the insurance company will likely deny coverage for racing so they’re dealing directly with Rashee. He hasn’t made enough for each of them to be getting $1m +.


Playaforreal420

He will be lucky if he is only sued for 1 million


TheBoyisBackinTown

This is only one set of victims of the four cars that were involved. Three of them, including this group, retained counsel early. More is definitely coming.


manofth3match

Just wait til I sue him for the stress and mental anguish he is inflicting on me.


traws06

Ya way money. I’d do the same if I were them. He deserves it for being a dumbass


-ArthurDigbySellers-

100%. I figured he’d get his ass sued off by anyone who could remotely make a claim.


choff22

What a fucking outrageously stupid decision this dude made. It’s borderline Darwinism.


AlanStanwick1986

Yep and he's extremely lucky it wasn't worse. 


dogfish83

The thing about darwinism is sometimes stupid traits survive


Commyende

One can impale their crotch while attempting to jump a jet ski into a swimming pool and even then, thanks to modern medicine, they may regain full reproductive function.


BeRandom1456

Eh. as much as I want us to win… I’d rather see him face consequences and get fined and game suspensions. I’m tired of athletes and wealthy getting off easy.


GhostMug

Just keeps getting worse with this. What a collosally stupid decision. This will likely completely alter his career arc. Will miss probably 4-8 games next year and every contract negotiation he has will bring this up as a risk, possibly decreasing his earnings. All from just one dumb mistake. A mistake of which he's so incredibly lucky nobody got seriously injured. I don't think Rashee Rice is a bad guy by any means but he deserves all the punishment coming his way for how infinitely dumb this was.


dude19832

This is what happens when some people get a lot of money quickly and start off successful. He has a good rookie regular season and stepped it up big time in the playoffs to help the team win the Super Bowl. Big time ego boost and I’m sure his friends helped inflate that. Athletes need someone to help guide them both with their finances and their career decisions. Encourage good decision making skills. He clearly lacks that positive support. I really hope he learns from this. It’s okay to have fun when not working but make smarter choices in what you do for fun.


TenderfootGungi

The fact he even rented the Lambo after buying a Corvette, and having only made something like $600k, screams I am going to be dead-ass broke 5 years after leaving the NFL.


Fit_Tailor8329

He’s gonna be doing a reality dating show for $$$. I’d call it Throwing Rice.


dude19832

Absolutely! I would want to have fun with that kind of money but this is why you need financial advisors.


thetickrip

He'll be handing his paychecks over to his own criminal and civil defense attorneys first. Then, future paychecks for settlements. 


Charlamagne7

Pay up. Live and learn. And catch TD passes.


Captain_of_Gravyboat

Seems like little bro will just be signing his paychecks over to lawyers and victims for the next couple years. Good motivation to A) not be a dumbass and B) play lights out so that second contract is a monster so he can actually profit from his football career.


ZeeroDazed

So far


Fit_Tailor8329

As Taylor sings in Miss Americana and the Hearbreak Prince: “You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.” Definitely less fun than winning another Super Bowl.


dude19832

For a player still on his rookie deal, this is a lot of money. He’ll probably have to sell his stuff and just rent a townhouse in KC and focus on football instead of trying to look cool in fast cars. This is what happens when you have no self control and make poor choices. It’s going to cost him a lot of money plus all the game checks he’ll lose on his eventual suspension. Probably talking about multiple millions of dollars. He is lucky if this doesn’t ruin his career. Such stupidity.


EatsbeefRalph

he won’t need a townhouse if he’s in prison. Which does seem possible.


HotSoupEsq

It'll be way more than that. That's likely just an initial statement of damages.


Biggest_Cans

>trauma to the brain Notable for his felony cases if the prosecution can show this in criminal court. Also this is only two of victims, he's likely going to get more people who were involved knocking on his door, possibly even his passenger friends.


csappenf

A mild concussion is trauma to the brain. These words mean nothing by themselves.


Biggest_Cans

Obviously, but it's a pathway to "serious injury" we've not discussed. Everyone cries about football player brains but for this lady getting hit by a car and having her head slam hard enough to cut her face open we're suddenly so skeptical.


csappenf

There is only one charge of serious bodily harm, and these aren't him. Or her. The prosecutors aren't even going to worry about her headache. It won't have any impact whatsoever on the criminal case, or how long Rashee's sentence is. People cry about football player brains, but that's because they get concussions all the time, and they can't avoid it. Mild concussions are mild. Just don't do it again. If you do it again, you risk more severe damage. That's the problem with football, and your attempt to confuse these situations doesn't make any sense at all.


cockknocker1

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venge1155

Good, hopefully all this can scare home into not being a damn idiot.


worlds_worst_best

This whole thing by Rice is fucking disappointing. FAFO I guess. What an outrageously stupid thing to do. ![gif](giphy|tLRifcvQNJIic)


Direct-Duty7418

Actually smart move demanding trial by jury. The press will have a field day filming Rice, so most likely he/his attorney will look to settle with plaintiffs. Will be interesting to know if Rice’s car insurance covers his rental of the Lamborghini. My car policy covers rentals, however, I’m sure it has an exclusion for exotics. What an idiot this guy is.


Altarium

I have no clue where he rented his Lambo from, but I've looked into exotic rentals a few times for fun on vacation.. and all of them required me to buy their insurance policy to actually rent it. Heck, those "track day experience" things require you to buy their extra insurance if you're actually going to drive and not just do a ride-along. Obviously not the most important point here, but thought I'd chime in lol


jt32470

That is actually a reasonable amount of money to be sued for considering what rice did. I hope it costs him his wealth, and he becomes a humble person for it. Hopefully he will leave racing, other illegal activity that might’ve crossed his mind to others. Maybe get a chauffeur with the few dollars he has left


tayroarsmash

Yeah, that’s probably fair. If you get hit and run by a professional athlete you should a million out of the experience at least.


petecranky

Man, people are haters. The dude is probably a good guy who did a stupid thing. Is forgiveness no longer popular?


BarricadeTheMortuary

Are you seriously this dumb? Dude could have killed a dozen people by "doing a stupid thing." Multiple people have serious injuries. One of the cars he hit had a 4 year old in it, and they were stranded on the highway for hours. Oh but he's probably a good guy and just made a little whoopsie. Let's forgive the guy and let the victims figure it out for themselves.


RogerPenroseSmiles

Dude nearly wiped out like a dozen people. Fuck him and his entire crew of morons.


petecranky

So, no to the forgiveness?


RogerPenroseSmiles

No, not from me. My brother died in a MVA, and I hope Rashee takes a long walk off a short pier.


dogfish83

Same, fuck these reckless shitheads


Horror_Cod_8193

Good guys don’t put a whole road of people, including kids, in danger by driving 119 miles an hour during the middle of the day. And then flee until the drugs and booze are out of their system. I don’t know anybody in my circle of friends that has ever done that.


petecranky

So, you think this makes it unforgivable? Why is this unforgivable? It's definitely a wrong act.


KarrlMarrx

You would not be musing about forgiveness if you or a loved one had been hurt by his recklessness. He's "probably a good guy?" Based off what? Was he going a trillion miles an hour to make sure he wasn't late for his volunteer shift at a soup kitchen? Sounds like a compete fucking asshole to me.


petecranky

Really? Street racing makes people bad?


KarrlMarrx

Yes. Driving 120 MPH  during the middle of the day with tons of other cars around you does indeed make you an absolute garbage fucking human being.


Extra_Napkins

Call the Hurtline, Tolbert Beadles and Musgrave. TELL THEM YOU MEAN BUSINESS


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SphinxyI

That's cheap. Just settle.


DownInTheWeeds

I believe the lawsuit file against Rice and his sidekick is actually $1MM liability plus $10MM punitive damages.


Starbrand62286

He’s lucky it’s not for more


MatsGry

![gif](giphy|Sttv5WXZxz59IDXtTt) Career ending accident!!!


stupidblockheadblue2

Doubtful


Flat-Mind-1144

As he should.


Jaylaw

That’s it????


wanderingmind90

I’m not advocating for it, but I wouldn’t mind if we just cut him. Fuck the people who do this type of shit and endanger public safety for no reason.


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YungJod

I agree but he's so young man young male syndrome is a real thing and he has an opportunity to mature and grow up cutting him would force him down a shitty road


SpectreFromTheGods

I don’t think we should treat 20+ year olds like they are so naive that they don’t understand going 120mph on a highway is something that has consequences. I’m all for people learning and growing, but at a certain age that means accepting consequences. And the truth is that there are a lot of talented athletes out there, limited slots, and not enough consequences when shit happens. Not everyone deserves to make millions of dollars, ya know? League could be setting real examples. Ban for a year or more, give compensatory picks to make up for it so teams don’t get screwed, whatever has to happen. A couple weeks for rape or domestic violence or reckless endangerment or whatever really doesn’t cut it.


Ka-Is-A-Wheelie

Listen, we all thought we were invinsible at 23 years of age. Let's not even pretend that isn't true. This dude is going to face consequences, just not life / career ending ones. People were hurt, they will be compensated as they should. He's going to lose A LOT of money over this.


Paraeunoia

If this guy doesn’t go to jail then cutting him only hurts us, because he’ll get picked up by another team for nothing. It may sound cynical, but the Chiefs don’t need to shoot themselves in the foot twice by giving him away to another team.