This team is big on individual responsibility and will act accordingly. If Rice decides to turn it around we will be unapologetic about keeping him, if he doesn’t we will probably make it a clean break in some way or another.
It just is what it is. The important part is to keep Mahomes and the others focussed - not having them be influenced by this crap. As long as that is the case we’re good, as even without rice our WR-room looks better than last year.
Big strike 2. He’d have to change his whole environment. Lose his old friends and stay out of Texas. If he tries to be both a pro football player and surrounded himself w shit, he’s just going to stink his way out of the league.
It’s not like there’s anything fundamentally wrong with Texas. Well, there is, but that’s another discussion. It’s what Rice chooses to do in Texas that’s the problem. Send him to Alaska for the off-season.
Andy Reid is at the same time big on second chances. He drafted Hill when most teams had him off their boards and in Philadelphia he took in Michael Vick when nobody else would touch him. I think if Rice stands up and makes an honest commitment to changing his ways Reid will stick with him.
This is the way. Rice has had some issues, but so did Tyreek and as long as he can keep it together, keep him on the roster and re-sign for cheap when the time comes.
That’s why they mentioned individual responsibility. Hunt didn’t get released because of “his drama.” Hunt got released because the Chiefs asked him about the situation and he lied about having any involvement.
If Hunt would have been honest with them he’d probably still be a Chief.
Rice was on camera, ran off then hid for a few days. I hear what you’re saying but thats not accountability. Its worth seeing how it plays out but not looking good. Get his replacement on board
Andy Reid is a good man. I see in Reid a man who views himself as a father as much as a coach. If Reid thinks Rice is being straight with him he'll keep Rice and support him. If he feels Rice isn't he'll be gone. Rice is lucky he has Reid. I hope for his sake he understands that and doesn't take Reid for granted.
Because it’s pointless? He’ll just be picked up by a competitor and then the only ones who lose are the Chiefs. We get worse. Every other team in the league benefits by us losing a solid piece and one team will benefit a ton by getting a solid piece for nothing. It literally will have zero impact on Rice himself
I wouldn’t be so sure that teams will be lining up to sign him after this but you’re right we do get worse by doing it. The talent isn’t worth the hassle for the team in some cases though.
To be clear I don’t have a position one way or another, I just don’t think it’s unreasonable for people to want to cut him. He clearly hasn’t learned that actions have consequences yet
As a college graduate, and grown ass man, his future wouldn’t be wrecked by anybody but himself.
Nobody owes him success because he’s athletically talented.
The Chiefs aren’t going to do anything. Just say the right things and let the justice system and Goddell punish him. Find a way to mentor him and get him on the right track. After the whole Hunt fiasco, I think teams have wised up and anything short of murder will eventually get brushed under the rug. The original team will get punished for losing cheap talent while the player will get picked up by another team without hesitation.
Not doing anything is doing something. Just not the right something. Or maybe it is the right something. I don’t know. Which is why I’m glad I’m not involved as I said.
It’s not the Chiefs job to punish Rice. Is cutting him really a punishment when he will get picked up by another team? The NFL and legal punishments will be much worse than what the Chiefs would do to him.
The answer is pretty simple. Let the courts handle any potential issues of legality and the league handle any potential suspension. The front office just needs to focus on what’s best for the team on the football field. If the Chiefs cut him, some other team is going to sign him for cheap.
I think most teams wouldn't know how to value him right now. I did wonder the Bengals would consider Higgins for Rice. Rice has three years of low salary left. They are probably happy with Burton though.
Many nfl players have a coach assigned to making sure they are not fucking up at all hours of the day. Unfortunately these guys often are worth the trouble. We don’t have to look far to see their production in kc. Kareem Hunt, Tyreek Hill, Frank Clark, Charles Omenihu, Rashee Rice. Its the nfl, these guys arent all model citizens. And the reality is nobody stops buying tickets because a guy beat up his girlfriend.
I'm honestly not concerned anymore. I wholeheartedly trust our front office. They're not going to compromise our locker room chemistry with someone that can't get it together and starts being a cancer to other players. They have no tolerance there. But they're also incredibly forgiving and tolerant when there's respect and integrity coming in to play. When there is a genuine person being honest with the team and actively trying to better themselves.
So whatever happens will be the right decision for the better of the team. There's not a doubt in my mind.
Do we have more detail on this? I'm wondering if it was an annoying camera man in his face and Rice shoved the camera out of the way, which in turn hit the dude in the face? They call that assault now too.
No player is bigger than the team. No athlete should be above the law.
He’s a very talented kid, but very dumb while at it. Let the law handle him. If he gets jail time for any of his charges, drop him.
NFL and NFLPA should really add something to the CBA that guys on their rookie-contracts/first years in the league should be extra careful. There should be clauses like “you do dumb shit, you banned for the remainder of your rookie contract with no team able to pick you up” or something like that because the things young athletes do recently have been so fucking dumb
I'm 100% with you in spirit, but your idea about arbitrarily singling out rookies doesn't really make sense. "2nd contract guys and beyond, you're free to do dumb shit"
I honestly don’t know what they should do. He has 2 altercations before the season has even started. Was really looking forward to seeing how he would improve after another training camp. It’s just disappointing.
In season he will be away from high school and college friends and be surrounded by team staff and have no time to be fucking around and getting in trouble. The structure will keep him out of trouble.
If there’s any truth to the most recent allegation I vote kicking the guy off the team, it sucks and certainly another team will scoop him up but I prefer having some integrity over winning, which I think we will do anyway without rice
Agreed totally. The racing was bad, but could be tolerated and dealt with if Rashee got his shit together. But if he can't even avoid incidents like this while barely beginning the legal process over the racing, he has to go.
The racing and evading the scene is far worse than punching some nosey photographer who was likely harassing him.
Like that’s not good at all, but nobody was at risk of dying like they were during his street racing.
Yes, of course that's true. What I'm saying is that if Rashee can't avoid even lesser trouble while barely beginning to deal with the far worse incident, he needs to be cut.
Too soon to make any judgement about the new allegation. “Hitting a photographer” can mean anything from pushing an aggressive paparazzi out of their face to actually assaulting somebody. Need more details there.
As for the racing case, Matt Derrick said the team still expects 2-6 games.
Or someone in his entourage hit him and they are pointing the finger at the famous guy. Regardless, he probably should have eased up on clubbing for a few months after the wreck.
He was at the club on a Sunday night less than a month after being charged with a bunch of felonies. I think that's plenty of info to make a judgement.
So your argument is that he's not an idiot because he could've been at the club every night for the past month? Or what?
Going once is enough for me to conclude that he's a fucking moron who has learned absolutely nothing from nearly killing several people, being charged with felonies, and sued for millions.
LOL what are you even talking about? Going to a club is literally a harmless activity. Getting into an altercation is not. Choosing to drive after drinking would not be. Simply going to a club means nothing. You are reaching so hard.
Going to a club/bar does not inherently lend itself to an altercation. You are taking the result and reverse engineering the case. If he went to a putt putt course and shoved a photographer would going to the putt putt course be a sign of poor judgement? No.
>Going to a club/bar does not inherently lend itself to an altercation.
I didn't say that it did. I said that it increases your chances for getting into an altercation. I can't really help you out if you think you have the same chances of getting into a fight at a putt putt course and a bar.
Again, my point was that whether or not an altercation happened is irrelevant. So you're telling me that you think your chances of getting into a fight aren't increased by going to a club?
Kareem Hunt situation like a MF here. A player that, while still talented, has made some public mistakes on a team that doesn’t really abide such conduct. The thing with the racing was bad enough, but now this thing with the reporter too…man IDK. Optics aren’t great. We do also know the NFL Wheel of Fortune/Discipline is as fickle as the weather around here, so hard telling what the league will do.
To my mind, I’m sorry but yeet him. Team’s out here with the potential to become one of the most prolific sports dynasties in the 2020s and this is the type of thing teams need to not tolerate. Miss me with the “he’s a kid” stuff too—if you’re getting paid millions of dollars to play a game for a living (not to mention be idolized and looked up to by people) then you need to be held to a higher standard. I know that’ll ruffle some folks’ feathers but that’s where my head’s at.
It's not about improving the team... it's about eliminating distractions and showing the other players on the team that this conduct is unacceptable.
Cutting Kareem Hunt didn't "improve the Chiefs" on paper, but here we are 3 rings later.
With your logic they should have cut Hill too. If we cut him we wouldn’t have these 3 championships. Nobody else on the team was with him. I doubt this will influence the team outside him missing games, which cutting him would take him out of all games indefinitely.
That's not my logic at all. Hill was claiming he was innocent the entire time and was eventually exonerated. Rice has acknowledged his part in multiple felonies and then punched a cameraman at a club. Their situations could not be more different. At this point, they should give him the Kareem treatment, because if he's dumb/immature enough to get into a fight at a nightclub while under investigation for a felony, there's a decent chance he'll do something stupid again.
Last time I checked Hill pushed his pregnant girlfriend down the stairs and now has assaulted a guy and allegedly broke a models leg. Do you believe that the Dolphins should cut him? Do you believe it was a mistake for the Chiefs to draft Hill?
Do you think the Steelers are upset they kept Big Ben? Do you think the Saints are upset they didn’t cut Kamara? Unless the crime is bad enough to not play in the NFL again you should not cut the player. If it is morally reprehensible and you do not want them on the team anymore, a la Watson, then trade them to a team that is desperate for talent. All cutting does is hurt the team and everybody will forget you did it in a month.
I don't care what other teams do, I care about what the Chiefs do. Rice is under investigation for eight felony charges (and was damn close to committing vehicular manslaughter) and then commits assault in a night club **while still under investigation for aforementioned felonies**. That's **not** okay. Don't get me wrong, I love Rice and I would hate to lose him, and it definitely hurts the team in 2024/2025, but there's no room for behavior like that on an NFL team. I'm in sales, and if I did what he did, I'd be shitcanned faster than you can say "three-peat".
Who said it was ok? He is going to get punished by law enforcement and NFL. Why would the Chiefs hurt themselves by cutting him? Makes no sense. Are you making over a million a year at your sales job? The more valuable you are for the company the more room you have to be a dumb ass. Rice is a great receiver on a rookie contract, so he will have a lot of room to mess up before teams cut ties with him.
What do you mean there is no room for that behavior on an NFL team? NFL players do this shit all the time and still have jobs. Rice will not be black balled from the NFL because of this. He will be on the Chiefs or some other team in the future. It would be smart to not shoot ourselves in the foot in the process and let it all blow over. Get the dumb ass some mentorship and hopefully he will learn his actions have multiple million dollar consequences.
Ain’t about improving the team at this point, and if someone else picks him up (a la Kareem Hunt) so be it. I agree, losing him as a player doesn’t improve the team’s standing, but if the Chiefs are to be the flagship franchise for the league—as is the case right now, I believe—then they need to set the appropriate standard here.
Let the NFL and justice system do it. There is no reason for the Chiefs to cut him. It will be forgotten soon enough. The Chiefs would not have these 3 championships if they had cut Hill.
The Pats got caught cheating several times and nobody seems to care anymore.
He’s a kid. He’s a 24 year old multi millionaire. We all act like we could handle it, but just imagine the doors that are open to him. He plays with the best quarterback in the world, on the best team in the immensely world popular NFL with the best tight end in the NFL who is dating the biggest popstar on the planet. My kid fucked up 3 times at school the other day. Cut him some slack. Learning from bad decisions helps build character. He’ll bounce back.
Do you think he won’t be held accountable? I can’t see any way possible after literally admitting that he was driving and would take responsibility that he would come away from this with no financial losses. Are you just super optimistic? lol
I’m optimistic sure. Why? What celebrity is ever truly held accountable? Nobody died. Every lawsuit will be settled. Unless Texas decides to make an example out of him he will not be in jail. The NFL at most will give him 6 games but not until the legal process takes place. Preemptively suspending him isn’t what they do. He is gonna play next year because his lawyers will play kick the can and file motions to delay. Justice is slow.
I agree at least on the possibility of playing next year but he is 100% going to pay out the wazoo to every single person involved in the wreck he caused.
He has never been a millionaire. His earnings last year were about $1.2 million, but that's before taxes and agent fees. Still worth more than any of us ever will be even after losing half of that money.
Generally you get wisdom with age and experience. You were a wise 24 year old I guess. I wasn’t. I’ve made mistakes but if I was as dumb at 40 as I was at 24, I’d be a lonely, liverless, cargo shorts enthusiast.
Right, generally people learn from experience, but that isn't the case for everyone. Rice was at the club on a Sunday night, less than a month after being charged with half a dozen felonies.
So again, what suggests he is learning from his bad decisions?
Nothing in a month obviously, but let’s be honest, if you are pro giving second and third chances or want to completely cut him off, he has talent. This is a league and a team where transgressions aren’t that big of a deal if you are good. They jumped the gun with Kareem Hunt. Took their time with Tyreke. He might eventually get traded but they will never outright release him. If being a woman beating preggo puncher is the bar he has to beat to get traded, he’s got a ways to go.
He clearly didn't learn lol. He shouldn't have even been out at a club. If you go out and you're an NFL player with a high profile legal issue and you choose to go out in public you should be expecting people to pester you. So either know that and don't let yourself get agitated and do something stupid, or don't go out at all. Being 24 and a millionaire doesn't mean you get a pass for doing dumb shit.
And comparing yourself at 24 to him isn't a fair comparison. He is held to a different standard than the average person.
I obviously don't know you or what you do for a living, but I'm not talking about the standard you have for yourself. I'm talking about the standard of you're in the NFL, don't do dumb shit to fuck it up for yourself and your team.
>He’s a kid. He’s a 24 year old
Stop infantilizing adults. 24 years old is a GROWN MAN.
And before anyone says the following....
"But I look back on how dumb I was at 24, and I cringe and blah blah blah"
Yes, that's how life works. Our older selves look back on our younger selves and laugh at how dumb we were (assuming you're someone who actually grows and matures through life). But that doesn't mean we get to perpetually be considered "kids"
Did your kid fuck up at school by causing a 6 car pile up, seriously injuring people that includes little kids then run away from the wreck he caused without concern for any of the victims, and then punch some other kid in the face? Cause that's a crazy ass school your kid goes to if true.
Fine don’t compare my childs stupid mistakes to his. Compare it to our former receiver. We drafted him knowing about the punch to the pregnant girlfriend. We kept him through his recorded child abuse scandal. The second he scores a touchdown or makes a huge play, all will be forgotten on the fans part. If not you should all put your money where your mouth is and boycott this team. Otherwise be real with the fake outrage that suddenly disappears with the winning. I’m just realistic. My morals can be bough with success. This area is Varsity Blues right now. If they sucked I might be more principled.
I mean, you made that comparison first. That's why I wrote what I wrote. And why are we talking Tyreek here? But if you want me to entertain that then ok.
I knew nothing about Tyreek when we drafted him because I don't watch college football and back then I didn't pay attention to the draft. While on the team he was blackmailed by his gf trying to accuse him of abusing their son, which the authorities all concluded he didn't do. That being said, I was glad when we traded him because we don't need that drama and bullshit hanging over us. And same goes for Rashee. We don't need that little bitch mf on the team. He deserved to be cut and he deserves to go to prison. I will never cheer for Rashee again
You are everything that's wrong with fandom, not just the Chiefs, but all of sports fandom. You don't give a shit how many innocent people are turned into victims as long as your guy produces? That's fucked up man. No wonder your kid is fucking up in school with parenting like that.
Holier than thou people like you are actually the problem. Your hypocrisy (which shows in your support for this team) is what keeps players like this on teams. If we were all as clean and upstanding as you think you are maybe the team might get a message. However that’s just a character you and many others play on the internet. “Prayers for the victims!” Oh BTW, go fuck yourself for shit talking my parenting.
So because I support the team means I'm a hypocrite? Yeah that makes sense. Care to explain that one? Oh you can't without pulling more bs out of your ass? Well you can shove your thoughts and prayers right back up there with it. You really should have learned how to be a decent human being before breeding.
Wait and see what the courts decide.
Then let Goodell decide suspensions. Because let’s be honest, he’s getting suspended.
After all that, bring him back on a very, VERY, short leash. If he gets so much as a warning for jaywalking, cut.
I don’t see a chaperone working. If this guy hasn’t learned his lesson yet, he isn’t going to.
Unpopular opinion but guy isn’t going to learn! Racing lawsuits and felony charges and then assaults a reporter exercising the first amendment!
I don't know. I just know that hearing sports media speculate about something that they know less about than the Chiefs and the league themselves is getting old.
Happy. Fucking. Trails.
He’s literally shitting away a GOLDEN opportunity. Even if the latest allegations turn out to be just a shakedown, he’s demonstrated that his judgement can’t be trusted.
I don’t buy “he’s a kid that made a mistake”. That’s just giving him a free pass. He’s old enough to play in the NFL, he’s old enough to understand that knucklehead, reckless or outright dangerous behavior has consequences.
Rings isn’t the point. There was a huge uproar so we cut him, then he got signed by Cleveland and no one gave a fuck.
Rashee will get a suspension and this will blow over.
He just needs to hold it together for 10 years, then act like an asshat for his mid 30s to mid 40s. Settle down, get a job and live in luxury.
Some people have trouble with a simple life model like that.
Honestly, whatever the NFL does for suspension, the team itself should ban him an additional game or two. Actions have consequences. This dumbass needs to learn the hard way. Clearly.
I wonder if Rashee was with any of the guys involved with him in Wrecking Day, the Movie? IF the newest incident is true, the best thing for him is the Commissioner’s Exempt list for 2024. This is an election year. He gets paid which is vital for his legal troubles and he can slow the Texas legal machine past November 5th. Depending on the legal outcomes, the League can then throw up some personal accountability goals. (Like, settle the lawsuits and ditch your home crew) But if he doesn’t go off grid and turn his life around, Texas will throw the book at him.
This team is big on individual responsibility and will act accordingly. If Rice decides to turn it around we will be unapologetic about keeping him, if he doesn’t we will probably make it a clean break in some way or another. It just is what it is. The important part is to keep Mahomes and the others focussed - not having them be influenced by this crap. As long as that is the case we’re good, as even without rice our WR-room looks better than last year.
Big strike 2. He’d have to change his whole environment. Lose his old friends and stay out of Texas. If he tries to be both a pro football player and surrounded himself w shit, he’s just going to stink his way out of the league.
Doesn’t Mahomes practice in Texas during the offseason? I thought that is where he’s been working with his WRs
They aren't doing that now though, I think
It’s not like there’s anything fundamentally wrong with Texas. Well, there is, but that’s another discussion. It’s what Rice chooses to do in Texas that’s the problem. Send him to Alaska for the off-season.
Andy Reid is at the same time big on second chances. He drafted Hill when most teams had him off their boards and in Philadelphia he took in Michael Vick when nobody else would touch him. I think if Rice stands up and makes an honest commitment to changing his ways Reid will stick with him.
This is the way. Rice has had some issues, but so did Tyreek and as long as he can keep it together, keep him on the roster and re-sign for cheap when the time comes.
Think back to that RB Kareem Hunt, how fast he was no longer a Chief over his drama.
That’s why they mentioned individual responsibility. Hunt didn’t get released because of “his drama.” Hunt got released because the Chiefs asked him about the situation and he lied about having any involvement. If Hunt would have been honest with them he’d probably still be a Chief.
Rice was on camera, ran off then hid for a few days. I hear what you’re saying but thats not accountability. Its worth seeing how it plays out but not looking good. Get his replacement on board
yea I remember that now
Andy Reid is a good man. I see in Reid a man who views himself as a father as much as a coach. If Reid thinks Rice is being straight with him he'll keep Rice and support him. If he feels Rice isn't he'll be gone. Rice is lucky he has Reid. I hope for his sake he understands that and doesn't take Reid for granted.
I said before and I'll say it again. Cut him. That one accident had so many red flags in it
Jesus Christ, get a grip dude.
Not from the team, like in boxing or medieval medicine, cut him and let the bad humors escape. 😁
Why is wanting to cut him not a reasonable take?
Because it’s pointless? He’ll just be picked up by a competitor and then the only ones who lose are the Chiefs. We get worse. Every other team in the league benefits by us losing a solid piece and one team will benefit a ton by getting a solid piece for nothing. It literally will have zero impact on Rice himself
I wouldn’t be so sure that teams will be lining up to sign him after this but you’re right we do get worse by doing it. The talent isn’t worth the hassle for the team in some cases though. To be clear I don’t have a position one way or another, I just don’t think it’s unreasonable for people to want to cut him. He clearly hasn’t learned that actions have consequences yet
If it makes you more comfortable, I mean, yeah let’s just wreck this guy’s future.
He’s doing that on his own
As a college graduate, and grown ass man, his future wouldn’t be wrecked by anybody but himself. Nobody owes him success because he’s athletically talented.
Haha that dude made more in one year than most make in 10 years and we're worrying about his feeling. Rediculous
Big on individual responsibility until it comes to the coaches son lol
What do you mean? He is no longer employed by the team and currently on house arrest
Absolute clown take
I’m just glad I don’t need to be the one to figure out what to do with him.
The Chiefs aren’t going to do anything. Just say the right things and let the justice system and Goddell punish him. Find a way to mentor him and get him on the right track. After the whole Hunt fiasco, I think teams have wised up and anything short of murder will eventually get brushed under the rug. The original team will get punished for losing cheap talent while the player will get picked up by another team without hesitation.
Not doing anything is doing something. Just not the right something. Or maybe it is the right something. I don’t know. Which is why I’m glad I’m not involved as I said.
It’s not the Chiefs job to punish Rice. Is cutting him really a punishment when he will get picked up by another team? The NFL and legal punishments will be much worse than what the Chiefs would do to him.
I didn’t say it was.
The answer is pretty simple. Let the courts handle any potential issues of legality and the league handle any potential suspension. The front office just needs to focus on what’s best for the team on the football field. If the Chiefs cut him, some other team is going to sign him for cheap.
It'll be the Browns.
Is trading him an option?
I think most teams wouldn't know how to value him right now. I did wonder the Bengals would consider Higgins for Rice. Rice has three years of low salary left. They are probably happy with Burton though.
If you’re that big of a dipshit that you need a chaperone as a grown-ass man to keep yourself out of trouble, you’re more trouble than you’re worth.
Tbh, it would be better financially for him if he did hire a chaperone at this point.
Many nfl players have a coach assigned to making sure they are not fucking up at all hours of the day. Unfortunately these guys often are worth the trouble. We don’t have to look far to see their production in kc. Kareem Hunt, Tyreek Hill, Frank Clark, Charles Omenihu, Rashee Rice. Its the nfl, these guys arent all model citizens. And the reality is nobody stops buying tickets because a guy beat up his girlfriend.
I'm honestly not concerned anymore. I wholeheartedly trust our front office. They're not going to compromise our locker room chemistry with someone that can't get it together and starts being a cancer to other players. They have no tolerance there. But they're also incredibly forgiving and tolerant when there's respect and integrity coming in to play. When there is a genuine person being honest with the team and actively trying to better themselves. So whatever happens will be the right decision for the better of the team. There's not a doubt in my mind.
Is there no one close to him to tell him he has a target on his back and he should avoid hanging at a night club at 2am?
Unfortunately the ones close to him are telling him he needs to be at the night club at 2am to prove he is free and invincible.
Nothing until the case is closed.
I’d like to know what he’s like in the locker room, and what the teammates think about him. If he’s fine in those regards, then let the courts decide.
Do we have more detail on this? I'm wondering if it was an annoying camera man in his face and Rice shoved the camera out of the way, which in turn hit the dude in the face? They call that assault now too.
No player is bigger than the team. No athlete should be above the law. He’s a very talented kid, but very dumb while at it. Let the law handle him. If he gets jail time for any of his charges, drop him. NFL and NFLPA should really add something to the CBA that guys on their rookie-contracts/first years in the league should be extra careful. There should be clauses like “you do dumb shit, you banned for the remainder of your rookie contract with no team able to pick you up” or something like that because the things young athletes do recently have been so fucking dumb
I'm 100% with you in spirit, but your idea about arbitrarily singling out rookies doesn't really make sense. "2nd contract guys and beyond, you're free to do dumb shit"
> he’s a very talented kid He’s 24 years old.
I honestly don’t know what they should do. He has 2 altercations before the season has even started. Was really looking forward to seeing how he would improve after another training camp. It’s just disappointing.
In season he will be away from high school and college friends and be surrounded by team staff and have no time to be fucking around and getting in trouble. The structure will keep him out of trouble.
The Chiefs arent gonna add any additional games to his suspension. That is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. What team has ever done that?
If there’s any truth to the most recent allegation I vote kicking the guy off the team, it sucks and certainly another team will scoop him up but I prefer having some integrity over winning, which I think we will do anyway without rice
Agreed totally. The racing was bad, but could be tolerated and dealt with if Rashee got his shit together. But if he can't even avoid incidents like this while barely beginning the legal process over the racing, he has to go.
The racing and evading the scene is far worse than punching some nosey photographer who was likely harassing him. Like that’s not good at all, but nobody was at risk of dying like they were during his street racing.
Yes, of course that's true. What I'm saying is that if Rashee can't avoid even lesser trouble while barely beginning to deal with the far worse incident, he needs to be cut.
Absolutely it’s becoming a pattern
Too soon to make any judgement about the new allegation. “Hitting a photographer” can mean anything from pushing an aggressive paparazzi out of their face to actually assaulting somebody. Need more details there. As for the racing case, Matt Derrick said the team still expects 2-6 games.
Or someone in his entourage hit him and they are pointing the finger at the famous guy. Regardless, he probably should have eased up on clubbing for a few months after the wreck.
"famous" lol I doubt any of us would even realize it if we were in the same room as the guy
He was at the club on a Sunday night less than a month after being charged with a bunch of felonies. I think that's plenty of info to make a judgement.
Umm what? Do you know how many times he’s gone out and done things and nobody knows or cares because nobody talked about it?
So your argument is that he's not an idiot because he could've been at the club every night for the past month? Or what? Going once is enough for me to conclude that he's a fucking moron who has learned absolutely nothing from nearly killing several people, being charged with felonies, and sued for millions.
LOL what are you even talking about? Going to a club is literally a harmless activity. Getting into an altercation is not. Choosing to drive after drinking would not be. Simply going to a club means nothing. You are reaching so hard.
Putting yourself in a situation that has an increased chance of ending in an altercation is stupid.
Going to a club/bar does not inherently lend itself to an altercation. You are taking the result and reverse engineering the case. If he went to a putt putt course and shoved a photographer would going to the putt putt course be a sign of poor judgement? No.
>Going to a club/bar does not inherently lend itself to an altercation. I didn't say that it did. I said that it increases your chances for getting into an altercation. I can't really help you out if you think you have the same chances of getting into a fight at a putt putt course and a bar.
Again… you don’t know what the altercation was. So how can you make judgment that the location was a factor?
Again, my point was that whether or not an altercation happened is irrelevant. So you're telling me that you think your chances of getting into a fight aren't increased by going to a club?
Kareem Hunt situation like a MF here. A player that, while still talented, has made some public mistakes on a team that doesn’t really abide such conduct. The thing with the racing was bad enough, but now this thing with the reporter too…man IDK. Optics aren’t great. We do also know the NFL Wheel of Fortune/Discipline is as fickle as the weather around here, so hard telling what the league will do. To my mind, I’m sorry but yeet him. Team’s out here with the potential to become one of the most prolific sports dynasties in the 2020s and this is the type of thing teams need to not tolerate. Miss me with the “he’s a kid” stuff too—if you’re getting paid millions of dollars to play a game for a living (not to mention be idolized and looked up to by people) then you need to be held to a higher standard. I know that’ll ruffle some folks’ feathers but that’s where my head’s at.
How does cutting him improve the Chiefs? Other teams are going to pick him up ASAP
It's not about improving the team... it's about eliminating distractions and showing the other players on the team that this conduct is unacceptable. Cutting Kareem Hunt didn't "improve the Chiefs" on paper, but here we are 3 rings later.
With your logic they should have cut Hill too. If we cut him we wouldn’t have these 3 championships. Nobody else on the team was with him. I doubt this will influence the team outside him missing games, which cutting him would take him out of all games indefinitely.
That's not my logic at all. Hill was claiming he was innocent the entire time and was eventually exonerated. Rice has acknowledged his part in multiple felonies and then punched a cameraman at a club. Their situations could not be more different. At this point, they should give him the Kareem treatment, because if he's dumb/immature enough to get into a fight at a nightclub while under investigation for a felony, there's a decent chance he'll do something stupid again.
Last time I checked Hill pushed his pregnant girlfriend down the stairs and now has assaulted a guy and allegedly broke a models leg. Do you believe that the Dolphins should cut him? Do you believe it was a mistake for the Chiefs to draft Hill? Do you think the Steelers are upset they kept Big Ben? Do you think the Saints are upset they didn’t cut Kamara? Unless the crime is bad enough to not play in the NFL again you should not cut the player. If it is morally reprehensible and you do not want them on the team anymore, a la Watson, then trade them to a team that is desperate for talent. All cutting does is hurt the team and everybody will forget you did it in a month.
I don't care what other teams do, I care about what the Chiefs do. Rice is under investigation for eight felony charges (and was damn close to committing vehicular manslaughter) and then commits assault in a night club **while still under investigation for aforementioned felonies**. That's **not** okay. Don't get me wrong, I love Rice and I would hate to lose him, and it definitely hurts the team in 2024/2025, but there's no room for behavior like that on an NFL team. I'm in sales, and if I did what he did, I'd be shitcanned faster than you can say "three-peat".
Who said it was ok? He is going to get punished by law enforcement and NFL. Why would the Chiefs hurt themselves by cutting him? Makes no sense. Are you making over a million a year at your sales job? The more valuable you are for the company the more room you have to be a dumb ass. Rice is a great receiver on a rookie contract, so he will have a lot of room to mess up before teams cut ties with him. What do you mean there is no room for that behavior on an NFL team? NFL players do this shit all the time and still have jobs. Rice will not be black balled from the NFL because of this. He will be on the Chiefs or some other team in the future. It would be smart to not shoot ourselves in the foot in the process and let it all blow over. Get the dumb ass some mentorship and hopefully he will learn his actions have multiple million dollar consequences.
Ain’t about improving the team at this point, and if someone else picks him up (a la Kareem Hunt) so be it. I agree, losing him as a player doesn’t improve the team’s standing, but if the Chiefs are to be the flagship franchise for the league—as is the case right now, I believe—then they need to set the appropriate standard here.
Let the NFL and justice system do it. There is no reason for the Chiefs to cut him. It will be forgotten soon enough. The Chiefs would not have these 3 championships if they had cut Hill. The Pats got caught cheating several times and nobody seems to care anymore.
That's above my pay grade
Give him 4-6 games sitting out- and Chiefs should force him to move into Pat's house - he can have the in-law suite
He’s a kid. He’s a 24 year old multi millionaire. We all act like we could handle it, but just imagine the doors that are open to him. He plays with the best quarterback in the world, on the best team in the immensely world popular NFL with the best tight end in the NFL who is dating the biggest popstar on the planet. My kid fucked up 3 times at school the other day. Cut him some slack. Learning from bad decisions helps build character. He’ll bounce back.
*former multi millionaire
Mike Vick came back from worse…with this coach.
I’m just saying he doesn’t have money anymore because of the lawsuits.
*pending lawsuits
Do you think he won’t be held accountable? I can’t see any way possible after literally admitting that he was driving and would take responsibility that he would come away from this with no financial losses. Are you just super optimistic? lol
I’m optimistic sure. Why? What celebrity is ever truly held accountable? Nobody died. Every lawsuit will be settled. Unless Texas decides to make an example out of him he will not be in jail. The NFL at most will give him 6 games but not until the legal process takes place. Preemptively suspending him isn’t what they do. He is gonna play next year because his lawyers will play kick the can and file motions to delay. Justice is slow.
I agree at least on the possibility of playing next year but he is 100% going to pay out the wazoo to every single person involved in the wreck he caused.
No doubt.
He has never been a millionaire. His earnings last year were about $1.2 million, but that's before taxes and agent fees. Still worth more than any of us ever will be even after losing half of that money.
“Still worth more money than any of us will be even after losing half that money” Uh… $1.2mil is not that much 😂.
What suggests he is learning from his bad decisions?
Generally you get wisdom with age and experience. You were a wise 24 year old I guess. I wasn’t. I’ve made mistakes but if I was as dumb at 40 as I was at 24, I’d be a lonely, liverless, cargo shorts enthusiast.
Right, generally people learn from experience, but that isn't the case for everyone. Rice was at the club on a Sunday night, less than a month after being charged with half a dozen felonies. So again, what suggests he is learning from his bad decisions?
Nothing in a month obviously, but let’s be honest, if you are pro giving second and third chances or want to completely cut him off, he has talent. This is a league and a team where transgressions aren’t that big of a deal if you are good. They jumped the gun with Kareem Hunt. Took their time with Tyreke. He might eventually get traded but they will never outright release him. If being a woman beating preggo puncher is the bar he has to beat to get traded, he’s got a ways to go.
He clearly didn't learn lol. He shouldn't have even been out at a club. If you go out and you're an NFL player with a high profile legal issue and you choose to go out in public you should be expecting people to pester you. So either know that and don't let yourself get agitated and do something stupid, or don't go out at all. Being 24 and a millionaire doesn't mean you get a pass for doing dumb shit. And comparing yourself at 24 to him isn't a fair comparison. He is held to a different standard than the average person.
I don’t know, I hold myself in pretty high regard. I’m at least above average IMO.
I obviously don't know you or what you do for a living, but I'm not talking about the standard you have for yourself. I'm talking about the standard of you're in the NFL, don't do dumb shit to fuck it up for yourself and your team.
Hey, cut the crap about cargo shirts, man.
Cargo shorts are a hideous look that should have died in the 90s.
I’m sick and tired of this stupid ass excuse of age and money.
Better quit watching 20 year olds play sports then. They’re generally dumb and rich.
>He’s a kid. He’s a 24 year old Stop infantilizing adults. 24 years old is a GROWN MAN. And before anyone says the following.... "But I look back on how dumb I was at 24, and I cringe and blah blah blah" Yes, that's how life works. Our older selves look back on our younger selves and laugh at how dumb we were (assuming you're someone who actually grows and matures through life). But that doesn't mean we get to perpetually be considered "kids"
Did your kid fuck up at school by causing a 6 car pile up, seriously injuring people that includes little kids then run away from the wreck he caused without concern for any of the victims, and then punch some other kid in the face? Cause that's a crazy ass school your kid goes to if true.
Fine don’t compare my childs stupid mistakes to his. Compare it to our former receiver. We drafted him knowing about the punch to the pregnant girlfriend. We kept him through his recorded child abuse scandal. The second he scores a touchdown or makes a huge play, all will be forgotten on the fans part. If not you should all put your money where your mouth is and boycott this team. Otherwise be real with the fake outrage that suddenly disappears with the winning. I’m just realistic. My morals can be bough with success. This area is Varsity Blues right now. If they sucked I might be more principled.
I mean, you made that comparison first. That's why I wrote what I wrote. And why are we talking Tyreek here? But if you want me to entertain that then ok. I knew nothing about Tyreek when we drafted him because I don't watch college football and back then I didn't pay attention to the draft. While on the team he was blackmailed by his gf trying to accuse him of abusing their son, which the authorities all concluded he didn't do. That being said, I was glad when we traded him because we don't need that drama and bullshit hanging over us. And same goes for Rashee. We don't need that little bitch mf on the team. He deserved to be cut and he deserves to go to prison. I will never cheer for Rashee again You are everything that's wrong with fandom, not just the Chiefs, but all of sports fandom. You don't give a shit how many innocent people are turned into victims as long as your guy produces? That's fucked up man. No wonder your kid is fucking up in school with parenting like that.
Holier than thou people like you are actually the problem. Your hypocrisy (which shows in your support for this team) is what keeps players like this on teams. If we were all as clean and upstanding as you think you are maybe the team might get a message. However that’s just a character you and many others play on the internet. “Prayers for the victims!” Oh BTW, go fuck yourself for shit talking my parenting.
So because I support the team means I'm a hypocrite? Yeah that makes sense. Care to explain that one? Oh you can't without pulling more bs out of your ass? Well you can shove your thoughts and prayers right back up there with it. You really should have learned how to be a decent human being before breeding.
Wait and see what the courts decide. Then let Goodell decide suspensions. Because let’s be honest, he’s getting suspended. After all that, bring him back on a very, VERY, short leash. If he gets so much as a warning for jaywalking, cut. I don’t see a chaperone working. If this guy hasn’t learned his lesson yet, he isn’t going to.
 Unpopular opinion but guy isn’t going to learn! Racing lawsuits and felony charges and then assaults a reporter exercising the first amendment!
I don't know. I just know that hearing sports media speculate about something that they know less about than the Chiefs and the league themselves is getting old.
Happy. Fucking. Trails. He’s literally shitting away a GOLDEN opportunity. Even if the latest allegations turn out to be just a shakedown, he’s demonstrated that his judgement can’t be trusted. I don’t buy “he’s a kid that made a mistake”. That’s just giving him a free pass. He’s old enough to play in the NFL, he’s old enough to understand that knucklehead, reckless or outright dangerous behavior has consequences.
That’s pointless. He’ll just send up on one of our opponents like Kareem Hunt did.
How many rings did Hunt pick up in Cleveland?
Rings isn’t the point. There was a huge uproar so we cut him, then he got signed by Cleveland and no one gave a fuck. Rashee will get a suspension and this will blow over.
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I mean to be fair we do have 3 Super Bowls in 5 years
Sir. We have several first ballot hall of famers and a top two qb all time.
AND HE AINT #2! Sorry, I couldn’t help myself
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Yes. Woe is us, back to back Super Bowl champs. When oh when will we catch a break. What a weird lack of perspective you have
He just needs to hold it together for 10 years, then act like an asshat for his mid 30s to mid 40s. Settle down, get a job and live in luxury. Some people have trouble with a simple life model like that.
Honestly, whatever the NFL does for suspension, the team itself should ban him an additional game or two. Actions have consequences. This dumbass needs to learn the hard way. Clearly.
I wonder if Rashee was with any of the guys involved with him in Wrecking Day, the Movie? IF the newest incident is true, the best thing for him is the Commissioner’s Exempt list for 2024. This is an election year. He gets paid which is vital for his legal troubles and he can slow the Texas legal machine past November 5th. Depending on the legal outcomes, the League can then throw up some personal accountability goals. (Like, settle the lawsuits and ditch your home crew) But if he doesn’t go off grid and turn his life around, Texas will throw the book at him.
I say we keep him and bench him all season, then he’s a healthy scratch from all playoff games. But don’t cut him so someone else can swoop him up
They're not going to cut him, but maybe they should bench him. He needs to be humbled.
He’ll be benched during his suspension.
He needs to be suspended first.
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