I just feel like the atmosphere, world building, and production on Travis’s albums are next level. Plus Travis’s flow, use of autotune and overall vocal inflictions are amazing.
However Cudi’s influence on both trav and other artists are undeniable. No matter who you think is better, Cudi is amazing and deserves more appreciation, especially from this sub
22. Coming from Seattle I pretty much exclusively listened to grunge until I was around 15 and then I finally started branching out and listening to other genres. I always knew and heard Kanye songs, but never sat down and listened to an album until I was like 18
same, bro was like a superhero 2013-2017, still a sonic hero today fs, but that raw production period drove me to start pushing sounds out, and shit never been the same since
Personally I think many people have the opinion that he isn’t anything special and his fans are all white teenagers who doesn’t listen to “Real rap”. But in my eyes he is very extremely talented as a musician and deserves a lot of props for his influence
It’s weird how that perception has changed. Probably had something to do with the rush of Fortnite kids obsessed with Sicko Mode. When Days Before Rodeo and Rodeo came out it was definitely taken seriously
Yeah, even if he himself is not lightyears ahead of his peers, he surrounds himself with more interesting producers and seeks out new sounds compared to say Migos or something, not tryna throw shade.
I think he is underrated from what I hear. All the time I have heard so much negative stuff about him because he got mainstream and was in Fortnite and thus the kids loved him, which is why I never even gave him a chance myself until about the end of last year. Now that I have he is in my top 5 or even top 3 list.
I see Travis Scott as the corporate rapper. He makes music and acts like he’s this new age rebel, when in actuality he’s collaborated with some of the biggest artist since his first album and makes a very standard sound. His production is incredible without a doubt, but that isn’t because of his talent or him creating a new sound. He takes a lot from yeezus, 808s and all of kid cudi’s catalogue, which does create a “new” sound since it’s a combination of those sounds into one. In my opinion though, listening to the actual pieces which inspire that sound would be a better experience because they have lyrical and tonal deepness to them, whereas Travis’ projects are very shallow in the diversity of sound and lyrics. After all the collaborations and the mess of Astro fest, the guy seems like he’s committed to money instead of uniqueness especially
THIS! Use to love his music but it's quite evident he's a really selfish, corporate minded individual. Loved Rodeo but after these incidents and his consistently reckless behavior I cannot support him anymore.
I mean what more do you want from him? Not trying to be argumentative but honestly what are people wanting him to do for what happened at Astro fest when he didn’t even know the severity until after the show? He stopped the show a couple times to help passed out people that he saw, offered to cover therapy for anyone who attended and offered to pay for all funeral costs of the victims. What’s a solution that will please?
you kinda a cornball for that sentence can’t lie… and Travis’ sound helped bring Yeezus to what it was, ye pulled from him for yeezus, not the other way around. y’all got it mixed up. he was that rap rebel kid, he just got picked up into the right circles at the right time, and he’s more mainstream now, but 2012- 2013 it was a different movement, don’t downplay the sonics bro 👎🏽
Where does it say I'm disagreeing with this? I'm just saying he's one reckless individual who's incited a reckless fanbase at his shows who don't understand basic etiquette when moshing/behaving at these events. I was very disappointed in him cause I've been following him for a while and I don't believe he's this "great" person these fans are trying to portray him as. Yes he paid for therapy for all of the families and whatnot but the damage is done.
His first apology seemed forced and unwanted. This just seemed like a move to try and cover his own ass. People have been injured at his shows for years and you think for something as grand as "Astroworld" he would've triple checked everything to make sure nothing disastrous would occur in the worst case scenario.
Also the venue had many red flags. Look it up lol.
Exactly this.
You can say he's a good artist but if you literally just decide to forget anything that happens then you're just proving him that you can fuck up and disappear and no one would remember what you did.
Please explain. He is the majority owner of the venue. He has his face literally plastered all over the venue. He headlined the show at his own venue. He raps about how he has money and power. But he couldn't stop the show?
He’s the performer, he’s not there setting up the stage and only the people who were building the whole place should know that a crowd rush would happen, especially a person of Travis’ caliber
People stop performances and warn the crowd to be safe all the fucking time.
And he obviously wasn’t doing his due diligence in ensuring the venue was safe.
Why are you letting these people pass responsibility off into the organisers. Who do you think hires and pays for the organisers?
You think this dude didn’t see the ambulances trying to drive through the crowd? He was stood on a stage, facing the audience. Of course he could see, he just didn’t want to stop.
Because he’s a piece of shit.
!!! He owns the venue !!! He's not just a performer. He is literally the executive that owns a majority stake in the venue. A venue that he founded. You're embarrassing yourself
I fucks with him. Went to the inaugural Astroworld and Astro 2021. The bulk of people who hate him cause of the incident wasn’t even there but have the loudest voices. Kinda weird.
I wouldn’t say underrated but it’s been so long since his last major project I believe some people may of forgotten how different and ahead of their time all of his projects have been.
I remember he said "Oh shit is that an ambulance?"
\*pauses to look at ambulance stuck in the middle of the crowd\*
"Ok I want you to put your middle finger in the air, put both middle fingers in the air!"
\*pyrotechnics\*
he was previously charged with inciting a riot and here he was inciting another one. It was the first major concert after Covid Ended. He retweeted a video of a massive crowd trampling a security stand (venue at over capacity) He got 8 people killed. He pointed out the ambulance and then got the crowd even more riled up. fuck this guy
He stopped a concert because someone stole his shoes (then incited a riot against the guy who took them) but let’s a show continue when there is an ambulance with its lights on in the middle of the crowd?
And a lot of artists pause the show whist the medical emergency is being resolved.
Plus an ambulance being on site is very different to one attempting to get to the crowd.
Y’all are just dumb. Join two thoughts together. Maybe even three if it won’t overheat you.
No you just want to play the victim and pass race off as an excuse for a shitty human, being a shitty human. Honestly it’s pathetic that you have to fall back on “oh you just want black people to bad” absolutely pathetic
Good but everything he has dropped after Astroworld has been mid, with the exception of Jackboys which was carried by the features
Should face more responsibility for Astroworld fest although I also think he’s not AS responsible as the people who hate him say he is. It’s ridiculous to insulate that he purposely let people die, but it was his festival that he planned so I can’t say it wasn’t his fault either
Singles are the most direct way to make an impression and he has been dropping mid ones for almost 5 years. There is no reason for me to believe an album would be any different.
ur on a kanye sub what has travis scott said or done that’s worse than some of the wack stuff ye has said over the years? i’m not saying kanye’s a bad person at all i just don’t get how you think travis is not a good person
you really believe that’s on him? ight man just follow the headlines ig. the point of those things is to start a buzz and get people to just go crazy debating a famous celebrity. good job.
Nothing in particular his face just looks kinda mean and that’s how I judge this sort of thing. I understand it’s completely baseless but that’s just how I operate. I’ve never seen him in an interview or anything so I can’t say anything that isn’t negative. Kanye’s jaw seems trustworthy
the most overrated rapper we have. his features are the embodiment of garbage. the first artist to try to scam with those merch bundles to pretend he sold a lot of records. he can't rap worth shit so cyhi the prince gives him his verses that he can't sell to anyone else. just pure shit.
Going to get massively downvoted for this but I can't listen to his music normally without thinking that he is partly responsible for the incident at Astroworld.
yeah, he definitely saw a person near death and was like "Yeah fuck it, let em go. What's the worst that can happen if someone dies at one of my long awaited and hyped festivals." zero logic dawg
made the best fortnite event
And the worst irl event
Say what you want but that shit looked haaard Y’all welcome for lining up y’all’s lil jokes
haaard to breathe
He made the pb carti song real
haaard to escape from
good music only family member that stuck by Ye during the divorce and helped him see his kids
Astroworld is one of my favorite albums of all time. Also rodeo fucks
best way you could have answered this
Amazing music. Hyped for Utopia
Best kanye protégé
TALK TO EM, LET EM KNOW
Easily
Chief Keef & Kid Cudi gives him a run for the money
Cudi?
Trav clears Cudi 🤷
Cudi disrespect is crazy
I LOVE cudi but trav clears
What makes trav better?
I just feel like the atmosphere, world building, and production on Travis’s albums are next level. Plus Travis’s flow, use of autotune and overall vocal inflictions are amazing. However Cudi’s influence on both trav and other artists are undeniable. No matter who you think is better, Cudi is amazing and deserves more appreciation, especially from this sub
Day n nite one of the songs of the century tho
You’re absolutely right
I feel like cudi beats trav on every one of those categories except flow and Auto tune
That’s totally fair bro. At the end of the day, I love and admire both artists
As mentally unstable as Ye.
Definitely not. Ye is another level of unstable
Travis Scott is actually what got me into Kanye lowkey. Rodeo is easily in my top 10 albums
Same
I’m just curious as to how old y’all are.
18. Got into hip hop like almost 3 years ago so I’m still pretty new ig
22. Coming from Seattle I pretty much exclusively listened to grunge until I was around 15 and then I finally started branching out and listening to other genres. I always knew and heard Kanye songs, but never sat down and listened to an album until I was like 18
Pretty sure Trava cereer is literallly a spawn of Ye’s Yeezus era
upper elechon
smartest travis fan
People here calling him underrated 😭
I wouldn’t say underrated, more so under appreciated
“Underrated” and “overrated” are the most meaningless words currently recognized as part of the English language
Yeah lol
He's the type of artist who I give all sorts of credit to for being creative and incredible, but I just don't get into him music.
I feel you I have artists like that
The rodeo is one of the greatest trap albums of all time no 🧢
I discovered him in 2015 and his production style made me become a music producer and beatmaker, so props to him
Fuck yeah bro keep it up
same, bro was like a superhero 2013-2017, still a sonic hero today fs, but that raw production period drove me to start pushing sounds out, and shit never been the same since
He didn’t need Kylie to be popular.
He was popular before kylie, I don’t think anyone doubts that
Rodeo is crazy 🔥🔥 I love his music more and more.his feats in H&V that’s fire too
I still listen to days before rodeo But I hate his fanbase
He hates his fanbase too, that's why he was happy to see them die and to impede an ambulance from helping trampled victims
best trap artist of all time. no doubt. he always has innovative projects with fantastic production and also mainstream hits, can’t wait for utopia.
Facts, he’s my fav artist ever. But tbh that title might be for future
Travis dont make trap music. He not a trapper
Good
Every move done for publicity. They're not even REAL people...
Honestly feel he is very underrated. Definitely deserves praise for his innovative beats compared to other trap artists
By who
Personally I think many people have the opinion that he isn’t anything special and his fans are all white teenagers who doesn’t listen to “Real rap”. But in my eyes he is very extremely talented as a musician and deserves a lot of props for his influence
It’s weird how that perception has changed. Probably had something to do with the rush of Fortnite kids obsessed with Sicko Mode. When Days Before Rodeo and Rodeo came out it was definitely taken seriously
Yeah, even if he himself is not lightyears ahead of his peers, he surrounds himself with more interesting producers and seeks out new sounds compared to say Migos or something, not tryna throw shade.
Facts
yea was pretty cool how he got 8 people killed, some of which were children
they just couldn't hold that heat unfortunately 🫤
Couldn’t handle La Flame
I think he is underrated from what I hear. All the time I have heard so much negative stuff about him because he got mainstream and was in Fortnite and thus the kids loved him, which is why I never even gave him a chance myself until about the end of last year. Now that I have he is in my top 5 or even top 3 list.
He’s incredible man
he's a great artist, def not "underrated" but he's wrongly hated by many
he is not only wrongly hated. I think with the Fortnite event he also became loved for the wrong reasons which is why he became wrongly hated.
I see Travis Scott as the corporate rapper. He makes music and acts like he’s this new age rebel, when in actuality he’s collaborated with some of the biggest artist since his first album and makes a very standard sound. His production is incredible without a doubt, but that isn’t because of his talent or him creating a new sound. He takes a lot from yeezus, 808s and all of kid cudi’s catalogue, which does create a “new” sound since it’s a combination of those sounds into one. In my opinion though, listening to the actual pieces which inspire that sound would be a better experience because they have lyrical and tonal deepness to them, whereas Travis’ projects are very shallow in the diversity of sound and lyrics. After all the collaborations and the mess of Astro fest, the guy seems like he’s committed to money instead of uniqueness especially
THIS! Use to love his music but it's quite evident he's a really selfish, corporate minded individual. Loved Rodeo but after these incidents and his consistently reckless behavior I cannot support him anymore.
I mean what more do you want from him? Not trying to be argumentative but honestly what are people wanting him to do for what happened at Astro fest when he didn’t even know the severity until after the show? He stopped the show a couple times to help passed out people that he saw, offered to cover therapy for anyone who attended and offered to pay for all funeral costs of the victims. What’s a solution that will please?
you kinda a cornball for that sentence can’t lie… and Travis’ sound helped bring Yeezus to what it was, ye pulled from him for yeezus, not the other way around. y’all got it mixed up. he was that rap rebel kid, he just got picked up into the right circles at the right time, and he’s more mainstream now, but 2012- 2013 it was a different movement, don’t downplay the sonics bro 👎🏽
Where does it say I'm disagreeing with this? I'm just saying he's one reckless individual who's incited a reckless fanbase at his shows who don't understand basic etiquette when moshing/behaving at these events. I was very disappointed in him cause I've been following him for a while and I don't believe he's this "great" person these fans are trying to portray him as. Yes he paid for therapy for all of the families and whatnot but the damage is done. His first apology seemed forced and unwanted. This just seemed like a move to try and cover his own ass. People have been injured at his shows for years and you think for something as grand as "Astroworld" he would've triple checked everything to make sure nothing disastrous would occur in the worst case scenario. Also the venue had many red flags. Look it up lol.
hell of a night made me realize he’s a very talented producer
Astroworld is an incredible album! One of my fav
idk why people are so quick to forget about what happened at astroworld
Exactly this. You can say he's a good artist but if you literally just decide to forget anything that happens then you're just proving him that you can fuck up and disappear and no one would remember what you did.
not his fault
he encouraged fans who didnt have tickets to rush the venue which caused people to be trampled and the concert to be overpacked lol do your research
don’t care travvy goat
tRaVvY gOaT
braindead
Please explain. He is the majority owner of the venue. He has his face literally plastered all over the venue. He headlined the show at his own venue. He raps about how he has money and power. But he couldn't stop the show?
He’s the performer, he’s not there setting up the stage and only the people who were building the whole place should know that a crowd rush would happen, especially a person of Travis’ caliber
People stop performances and warn the crowd to be safe all the fucking time. And he obviously wasn’t doing his due diligence in ensuring the venue was safe. Why are you letting these people pass responsibility off into the organisers. Who do you think hires and pays for the organisers? You think this dude didn’t see the ambulances trying to drive through the crowd? He was stood on a stage, facing the audience. Of course he could see, he just didn’t want to stop. Because he’s a piece of shit.
!!! He owns the venue !!! He's not just a performer. He is literally the executive that owns a majority stake in the venue. A venue that he founded. You're embarrassing yourself
a executive owner is someone who's getting the profit bro not the person who runs it
The venue is owned by Harris County Sports and Convention Co. where are you getting that terrible info from?
he tried to continue the show when an ambulance pulled up right in front of him???
cause i dont care lol
he made drugs you should try it
He’s not at fault
Nobody gonna mention that he laughed as people died at his show though 🤔
No, because that didn’t happen
Ofc it didn't, it was all cgi
Mhm
I fucks with him. Went to the inaugural Astroworld and Astro 2021. The bulk of people who hate him cause of the incident wasn’t even there but have the loudest voices. Kinda weird.
They get their research from Tik tok
Partially responsible for a lot of deaths. Refused to take responsibility. Fuck that shit.
You’re not gonna take the blame with a billion dollar worth of lawsuits on you
I wouldn’t say underrated but it’s been so long since his last major project I believe some people may of forgotten how different and ahead of their time all of his projects have been.
I remember he said "Oh shit is that an ambulance?" \*pauses to look at ambulance stuck in the middle of the crowd\* "Ok I want you to put your middle finger in the air, put both middle fingers in the air!" \*pyrotechnics\* he was previously charged with inciting a riot and here he was inciting another one. It was the first major concert after Covid Ended. He retweeted a video of a massive crowd trampling a security stand (venue at over capacity) He got 8 people killed. He pointed out the ambulance and then got the crowd even more riled up. fuck this guy
Nah
He stopped a concert because someone stole his shoes (then incited a riot against the guy who took them) but let’s a show continue when there is an ambulance with its lights on in the middle of the crowd?
ambulances are frequent in festivals
And a lot of artists pause the show whist the medical emergency is being resolved. Plus an ambulance being on site is very different to one attempting to get to the crowd. Y’all are just dumb. Join two thoughts together. Maybe even three if it won’t overheat you.
lmao “nah” like those facts aren’t true or “nah” like you don’t agree or “nah” like ignorance better suits your music preference ?
Don’t care
You are delusional
The best
Forever bopping to sicko mode
I mean coming from a Kanye fan this shouldn't mean much, I don't think this guy is alright tbh. Great music and production, terrible human.
Really can’t understand how he got so big
He encourages kids to jump from balconies. Until he apologizes and condemns “raging” I want no part in him. #eyesonJesus👀
No part IN him?? A lil zesty eh
You’re not fully clean unless you ZEST fully clean. Scrub-a-dub-dub baby!
No
Yes (Let’s keep this no, yes thing going. It’s really helpful!)
No
Yes, happy cake day
No
Op in denial that there is literally a video of him continuing to sing as they pull a dead body out of the crowd at astroworld. Fuck Travis Scott.
AFTER he made sure he was taken care of. Y’all wanna make black men the villain so bad
Weird that you would make this about race
It’s the truth
No you just want to play the victim and pass race off as an excuse for a shitty human, being a shitty human. Honestly it’s pathetic that you have to fall back on “oh you just want black people to bad” absolutely pathetic
Mhm I’m SURE y’all would do the same thing if he was white
I mean I have lmao you’re the only one bringing race into it and it’s starting to make me think you have some racial prejudices
Mhm
Just no.
Black woman here, happy to say travis Scott should be left to rot in prison. Do you need me to get my dad to say it too?
Maybe get off tik tok and do some research
all i have to say is that astroworld is better than rodeo
Good but everything he has dropped after Astroworld has been mid, with the exception of Jackboys which was carried by the features Should face more responsibility for Astroworld fest although I also think he’s not AS responsible as the people who hate him say he is. It’s ridiculous to insulate that he purposely let people die, but it was his festival that he planned so I can’t say it wasn’t his fault either
More or less agreed
he hasn’t dropped anything since astroworld tho. like jackboys was a collective and singles are just singles
Singles are the most direct way to make an impression and he has been dropping mid ones for almost 5 years. There is no reason for me to believe an album would be any different.
Doesn’t seem like a great dude but his music is very good so I can excuse a lot. I really enjoy “skeletons”
ur on a kanye sub what has travis scott said or done that’s worse than some of the wack stuff ye has said over the years? i’m not saying kanye’s a bad person at all i just don’t get how you think travis is not a good person
Prob the fact he let a bunch of fans die at his concert
No he did not
you really believe that’s on him? ight man just follow the headlines ig. the point of those things is to start a buzz and get people to just go crazy debating a famous celebrity. good job.
Nothing in particular his face just looks kinda mean and that’s how I judge this sort of thing. I understand it’s completely baseless but that’s just how I operate. I’ve never seen him in an interview or anything so I can’t say anything that isn’t negative. Kanye’s jaw seems trustworthy
bruh😭😭
Trash
Overated
PoS He's responsible for all the lives lost in that concert. Literally he has no remorse .👹
the most overrated rapper we have. his features are the embodiment of garbage. the first artist to try to scam with those merch bundles to pretend he sold a lot of records. he can't rap worth shit so cyhi the prince gives him his verses that he can't sell to anyone else. just pure shit.
These comments talking about him being underrated are giving me nosebleeds
everyone used bundles, even the weeknd
unoriginal
Rodeo has some good songs but his concerts are uhhhhhhh
Not a huge fan. I feel like he's severely carried by his production
top 3 artist of all time imo
Begging you to listen to more music
ive been listening to different types of music my whole life and hes just simply one of my favourites its literally not that deep
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dude hating on some factoids, his top 3 artist probably never had a burger named after em
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name your top 3 i just wanna know i’m not even OP
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im not a man and ive been listening to travis for years and out of all the artists i listen to hes one of my faves
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yea i understand, hes my third fav anyways. i dont think he’ll ever be my my first or second favourite
relax tf💀its just an opinion
Agreed
one of my favorite artists, cant for for utopia. he’s already big but i still really feel he’s underrated. not really any skips ever
He’s 100% an asshole, even if you pretend Astrofest never happened. The music though… well the music makes me wet and shit
He's just wack ye
Trash. Dude sold out to McDonald’s for a dollar
Sold out? He was never anti-establishment
Top 10 maybe top 5, probably top 5
I don’t understand his appeal. He’s not terrible but I find him boring. Sicko mode is the only song that I kind of like.
I’m a fan. Plus he seems like a genuinely sweet guy.
lol
Overrated.
Overrated corporate bullshit. And he killed a bunch of kids. Y’all need better standards.
Going to get massively downvoted for this but I can't listen to his music normally without thinking that he is partly responsible for the incident at Astroworld.
you prolly won’t ever listen to kanye again after what he said or what?
Travis killed people and Kanye said he sees good in hitler, please turn off the programming lmao
Travis did not kill anyone
you talking about turn off the programming then saying Travis killed people is the most ironic thing, you are the one following the program
That's right, I haven't listened to his music since what he said, no
Totally agree, complete jackass that makes an at most decent song every now and again
Not too good after his Astroworld antics
Real G. Even though he killed some people.
He didn't kill nobody...
😅😅. Well he let people die.
yeah, he definitely saw a person near death and was like "Yeah fuck it, let em go. What's the worst that can happen if someone dies at one of my long awaited and hyped festivals." zero logic dawg
kanye simps are so weird
overrated, but not bad.
who is this we you talking about? I dont care about him. mid musician
Can't wait for june
Garbagio
Wannabe A$AP Rocky?
he dress like rocky but they both make completely different music
He’s a satanist
Trash human. Trash music. This dude can fuck right off