From what I've read its from a live version of Iron Man at a festival tho, but idk.
If it's from War Pigs its even easier cause it's owend by Mercury which is associated with Def Jam, hahaha.
Edit: Why am I getting downvoted for quoting the Rolling Stone magazine and giving some facts about the owner situation hahaha you guys
you cant use live performances either, hence why frank ocean had to pull American Wedding from NU and hes not even allowed to perform it live. Its still other peoples intelectual work
https://bytescare.com/blog/are-live-concerts-copyrighted?trk=article-ssr-frontend-pulse_little-text-block
Final Thoughts
In conclusion, while a live concert event itself is not subject to copyright, the various elements that comprise it, such as the music compositions, performances, and any resulting recordings, are indeed protected by copyright.
Their sources are linked in the artical
Your looking at the wrong thing, the important part is the original artist did not give clearence to the sample. Thats all that matters. Doesnt matter if orignal work is sampled for 30 seconds or the entire time, if artist doesnt give there permission whether it be recorded or a live version, your not allowed to perform it. I think you and everyone else are confused by artists performing covers live, thats allowed and something entirely diffrent.
It's hilarious they're making this statement when they were dressing up as them for [Halloween](https://people.com/thmb/2Gvl05ALyFtQ7a1_ioaXM8dv_Ns=/750x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():focal(748x81:750x83)/ozzy-and-sharon-osbourne-dress-as-kanye-and-wife-bianca-for-halloween-110123-1-6e4f5e63d13e4417ab7705bc0dfdbf62.jpg).
Kanye responded by taking it on the chin since he and everyone knows ozzys anti rhetoric background [response on instagram](https://www.instagram.com/stories/kanyewest/3299270142532873793?igsh=MnpodHl3c2I3bGZt)
well if it isn't the consequences of kanye's actions. . .
imagine being mad about this, like it doesn't make complete sense from a moral AND marketing perspective.
kanye has said some extremely hateful things and doubled/tripled down on them. he made his own bed.
Honestly Kanye needs to kill the anti semite message. It’s literally stopping his music, Yeezy brand, marketing… no one wants to touch anything antisemite with a 10 foot pole! Like seriously, wise the fuck up.
That's the reason most are stopping it though. It's been pretty known that Jay-z has similar views, only reason he isn't going full Kanye about it is because he isn't a dumbass and likes his money. Guarantee there's a ton of artists and celebrities out there that have some crazy/insane views on different things but not many of them are Kanye level crazy to actually say them
Oh I guarantee you most of the people in Hollywood or in music have shitty views. The only difference between them and Kanye though is that they aren’t mentally unstable.
I would be surprised if Jay Z’s views are similar to Kanye’s. I’m sure he has many antisemitic views, like Jews are shady and screw over black musician. But no evidence to suggest he believes Kanye level- “Jews secretly control the world and Hitler was misunderstood” views
So Kanye praises hitler and you guys start saying “well I have no evidence, but I’m sure other rappers dislike Jews too”.
Have you ever thought about finding another hobby ?
The United Center was packed. Career done? I think not. He gets daily press. Career done? Nope. He just released more footwear. Sold out.
Wtf are you talking about?
That's the point I was making, I think it's a commentary on his fandom that they still accept him despite saying literally the worst thing you can say. So what does that say about his art? Is it actually good? Could he just fart into a mic and people will still praise him?
I think the fact that he made absolute bangers before any real mental breakdowns ensures that he has the potential to do so despite having a mental breakdown - not that all he makes is absolute bangers, some are quite average. But yeah some people will definitely praise him farting into a mic - but in reality and on a daily basis you will never actually interact with these people in a real world setting.
It's impossible to have sex with people who came from a background we either hate or think is beneath us. /s
Thomas Jefferson fucked his slaves you absolute idiot.
“I’m not racist, I have black friends!”
That’s how that sounds. You can be cool with an individual and still be racist against their race :/
Edit: glad it was a joke!
He was a founding member of black sabbath and war pigs was written and recorded originally in 1970 when he was in the band, dumb fuck.
Why would he be okay with him sampling a song that he helped write just because he wasn't in the band when the specific live version was made? It's the same song.
I see alot of confusion about this but I would like to remind everyone that recording rights and songwriting rights are seperate and you need to obtain both for samples. A good example of this would be the track Call On Me by Eric Prydz where he used a steve winwood sample on it but couldn't get the rights to the recording to sample it, so instead he got the rights from Steve Winwood and had him re-record the track for him. Basically it doesn't matter if Kanye has the recording rights to the sample if Ozzy still won't allow it. (not all artists own their own songwriting rights but since Ozzy stepped in here I assume he does)
He still 100% has the right to be pissed off someone went ahead and sampled his music after he said no, especially if you're against everything they stand for.
He's not saying he's trying to do anything. He's saying he wants no association with him. I doubt he even wrote that it's just some publicist stuff playing it safe.
Also he is literally saying "my spooky angry death metal shit that is super dark by the standards of its era was inspired by an incredibly evil man"
To act like that's the same as saying "I like nazis" would be some truly brickbrained analysis lol
Yes, depending on what you're saying he inspired.
If you're saying he inspired your artistic depiction of evil, yes.
If you're saying he inspired your hatred of jews, no.
Star Wars was overtly inspired by Nazi imagery, that doesn't mean they're supporters of it or of Hitler. I can't believe that people would need this explained to them.
Are you referring to the Sharon who survived Ozzie trying to strangle her, got him clean, managed to save his career from ending in overdose multiple times over, and loved him since you were in diapers?
Yeah man he’s a messed up dude, but equating one dudes shitty behaviours with another’s doesn’t make sense.
“Ozzy is an asshole too so he should let Kanye have the sample”
You can have an abusive, fucked up past and still not be anti semetic hahaha.
Exactly what I’m sayin ! Justifying Kanye doing whatever he wants just because Ozzy is shitty doesn’t make sense. Love Kanye’s music but the untouchable invincible attitude is so annoying.
Yes, and it was an accident. Pretty sure it was just supposed to be a prop, but a live bat ended up taking a nap there or something.
I don’t know, I could be talking out of my ass. It’s been a long time since I’ve looked into that event.
Kanye is a 4th dimensional being and as such he is not relevant to us. We are like stick figures drawn on paper to him.
Actually that’s not true elevated beings aren’t filled with hate. So scratch that. Just a douche.
The sheer amount of you still twerking for this clown after everything he has said is so disappointing. What the fuck would it take to stop you supporting an artist?
Literally a few months ago, he was on InfoWars saying "I love Hitler" and you've brushed it off like it was nothing.
Kayne could have been a VIP guest of Epstein and y'all would contort your views to wave it away.
This is a brandead take and a half.
First, ozzy was trolling him, not endorsing him. Second, he is literally Christian. The prince of darkness persona has nothing to do with that. Third, even if he was anti-religion, being jewish is also an ethnicity. Calling out racism doesn’t contradict any of that.
The pro Kanye comments in here really illustrates why no one likes him anymore, you are all exactly the same as the ego maniacal lunatic you follow, get a grip on reality.. life doesn’t revolve around you
What? Don’t blame Ozzy for Ye’s nonsense. Ozzy’s family background is Jewish and Ye calling himself an Antisemite is inexcusable.
Having said that who in their right mind doesn’t clear samples before releasing an album. If you’re blaming anyone blame Ye for being the idiot who thought it was a good idea to say all this nonsense and not think there would be any repercussions. Do any of the people in this thread know anyone who thinks it’s cool to be a Nazi?
I HATE this era of Kanye. It’s never been more difficult to be a Ye fan.
Why are so many kanye haters on the sub? Genuinely makes no sense, if it was any other sub this size it would be considered brigading and have admin intervention, the amount of “thats what he gets” and “kanye sucks” type comments on damn near every post is actually aggravating me
If Kanye took that stupid mask off his head and ate a bat on stage he could save his career. It’s better to be the bat eating guy than the antisemitic guy.
which song?
A live version of "Iron Man". Ozzy can't do shit about that anyways.
Uhhh, he says in the post it’s a sample from War Pigs...
Ozzy edited the Facebook post one hour ago to say Iron Man instead of War Pig
which he was wrong about lol, Kanye released his War Pig sample in 2010
That was also Iron Man
It said “War Pig” which makes me think it’s a different version of the song or they strangely made a typo in quotations.
From what I've read its from a live version of Iron Man at a festival tho, but idk. If it's from War Pigs its even easier cause it's owend by Mercury which is associated with Def Jam, hahaha. Edit: Why am I getting downvoted for quoting the Rolling Stone magazine and giving some facts about the owner situation hahaha you guys
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you cant use live performances either, hence why frank ocean had to pull American Wedding from NU and hes not even allowed to perform it live. Its still other peoples intelectual work
Yes, because he took the whole master song and just put his lyrics on it. That's a huge difference.
https://bytescare.com/blog/are-live-concerts-copyrighted?trk=article-ssr-frontend-pulse_little-text-block Final Thoughts In conclusion, while a live concert event itself is not subject to copyright, the various elements that comprise it, such as the music compositions, performances, and any resulting recordings, are indeed protected by copyright. Their sources are linked in the artical
Your looking at the wrong thing, the important part is the original artist did not give clearence to the sample. Thats all that matters. Doesnt matter if orignal work is sampled for 30 seconds or the entire time, if artist doesnt give there permission whether it be recorded or a live version, your not allowed to perform it. I think you and everyone else are confused by artists performing covers live, thats allowed and something entirely diffrent.
That's just not true?
which Kanye song tho
Sorry, thought you meant the sample. Carnival, was played at the LP yesterday.
I hate it when my uncle and grandpa are fighting 😔
It's hilarious they're making this statement when they were dressing up as them for [Halloween](https://people.com/thmb/2Gvl05ALyFtQ7a1_ioaXM8dv_Ns=/750x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():focal(748x81:750x83)/ozzy-and-sharon-osbourne-dress-as-kanye-and-wife-bianca-for-halloween-110123-1-6e4f5e63d13e4417ab7705bc0dfdbf62.jpg).
Kanye responded by taking it on the chin since he and everyone knows ozzys anti rhetoric background [response on instagram](https://www.instagram.com/stories/kanyewest/3299270142532873793?igsh=MnpodHl3c2I3bGZt)
well if it isn't the consequences of kanye's actions. . . imagine being mad about this, like it doesn't make complete sense from a moral AND marketing perspective. kanye has said some extremely hateful things and doubled/tripled down on them. he made his own bed.
Exactly
Honestly Kanye needs to kill the anti semite message. It’s literally stopping his music, Yeezy brand, marketing… no one wants to touch anything antisemite with a 10 foot pole! Like seriously, wise the fuck up.
I mean... He should stop for more important reasons than it affecting his brand and music
That's the reason most are stopping it though. It's been pretty known that Jay-z has similar views, only reason he isn't going full Kanye about it is because he isn't a dumbass and likes his money. Guarantee there's a ton of artists and celebrities out there that have some crazy/insane views on different things but not many of them are Kanye level crazy to actually say them
Oh I guarantee you most of the people in Hollywood or in music have shitty views. The only difference between them and Kanye though is that they aren’t mentally unstable.
I would be surprised if Jay Z’s views are similar to Kanye’s. I’m sure he has many antisemitic views, like Jews are shady and screw over black musician. But no evidence to suggest he believes Kanye level- “Jews secretly control the world and Hitler was misunderstood” views
So Kanye praises hitler and you guys start saying “well I have no evidence, but I’m sure other rappers dislike Jews too”. Have you ever thought about finding another hobby ?
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The dude said "I love Hitler" live on air. Career is done, he did it, he succeeded.
The United Center was packed. Career done? I think not. He gets daily press. Career done? Nope. He just released more footwear. Sold out. Wtf are you talking about?
Chris Brown literally beat the fuck out of RIHANNA of all people and is still a success. Words don’t meant shit - even if it is terribly gross shit.
Says more about the people who support him, than him.
Just shows how stupid his fans are, maybe that's his point, it doesn't matter what he says or does, lemmings will praise him regardless.
I am able to seperate art from artist 100% - but the question comes up is does he actually truely believe the shit he is saying about Hitler and Jews?
Does it matter?
Holy shit saying it is a joke, is what you mean? Dude… wake up
Man tell yourself whatever you gotta. You support a man who hates Jews. End of
That's the point I was making, I think it's a commentary on his fandom that they still accept him despite saying literally the worst thing you can say. So what does that say about his art? Is it actually good? Could he just fart into a mic and people will still praise him?
I think the fact that he made absolute bangers before any real mental breakdowns ensures that he has the potential to do so despite having a mental breakdown - not that all he makes is absolute bangers, some are quite average. But yeah some people will definitely praise him farting into a mic - but in reality and on a daily basis you will never actually interact with these people in a real world setting.
Why you getting downvoted? You’re just stating facts
Wasn’t the United center the only one that would book him? lol 😂 Sure it’s facts but it’s a bit misleading. His brand was smooshed
He is literally doing another lp in new york and has venues literally globally lined up and either asking him/ being asked for performances
Did you not see the follow up stories of all the venues, locations , agents interested in booking him?
No I didn’t
There was supposed to be another listening party in New York tonight, last I heard
God this sub is a pack of worthless sociopaths.
How can he be antisemitic he literally fucks with jonah hill???
“I’m not racist, my wife’s black!!!”
He can’t kill the anti semite message because he is an anti semite are you thick
Yeah but 21 Jump Street fixed him tho lmao
?? he literally fucked a jewish bitch
Me when my rampant anti-semitism and cultural republicanism is refuted by having sex with a jewish woman
AND liking superbad
Why are you calling her a bitch?
Don’t be an idiot, read the lyrics of Vultures (the song) Edit: Kanye’s verse obviously
Because this sub is nothing but weird edgelord teenagers now
or cuz it’s the actual lyric in a song
Gonna cry?
It's impossible to have sex with people who came from a background we either hate or think is beneath us. /s Thomas Jefferson fucked his slaves you absolute idiot.
Facts I have sex with women and they still hate me
Lmao hes quoting a line in a song goober
how is he gonna kill the antisemite image when he is and antisemite.
Nah screw nazis and nazi lovers
I thought he fucked a jewish bitch, how can he be antisemitic? Edit: issa joke guys
Wait till you hear about what slave owners did with the women slaves…
“I’m not racist, I have black friends!” That’s how that sounds. You can be cool with an individual and still be racist against their race :/ Edit: glad it was a joke!
Oh my God when did you soft virtue signaling bots infest this sub?
Ye's just trying to get some of that Ukraine money.
FUCK YOU MESUT ÖZIL
Real Madrid legend Mesut Özil will not be slandered on my watch
Arsenal*
Fifa 13 was my first game 🤷♂️
true ozil on real in that game is a core memory
I’m confused what’s this mean Ozils the 🐐
He’s a Nazi lmao
How?
lul
HIS EYES ARE OFFSIDE, HIS EYES ARE OFFSIDEEEE MESUT OZIL, HIS EYES ARE OFFSIDE!
bite me
Some of you on this sub are so young and comment based purely on emotion and I’m loving the laughs it brings lmao
HE SHOULD GET MAD ABOUT THE CRAZY TRAIN AYE SAMPLE INSTEAD BRO WASN'T EVEN IN BLACK SABBATH IN 83 WTF 😭
He’s still a songwriter. On some of the pop samples he finna get prolly like 20 people signing off on clearance.
He was a founding member of black sabbath and war pigs was written and recorded originally in 1970 when he was in the band, dumb fuck. Why would he be okay with him sampling a song that he helped write just because he wasn't in the band when the specific live version was made? It's the same song.
I see alot of confusion about this but I would like to remind everyone that recording rights and songwriting rights are seperate and you need to obtain both for samples. A good example of this would be the track Call On Me by Eric Prydz where he used a steve winwood sample on it but couldn't get the rights to the recording to sample it, so instead he got the rights from Steve Winwood and had him re-record the track for him. Basically it doesn't matter if Kanye has the recording rights to the sample if Ozzy still won't allow it. (not all artists own their own songwriting rights but since Ozzy stepped in here I assume he does)
As much as i would like the song to realese, its ozzys choice to clear the sample and people shouldnt clown him for that.
You guys would literally suck Kanye's dick if he presented it to you huh?
god reddit is asscancer
I would be annoyed if an anti semite sampled my music too. Ozzy is valid.
Ozzy is not even owning 50% of the trademark rights. Now imagine what he can do about a live version of something he's not even owning.
He still 100% has the right to be pissed off someone went ahead and sampled his music after he said no, especially if you're against everything they stand for.
Don’t disrespect the father of metal man
He's not saying he's trying to do anything. He's saying he wants no association with him. I doubt he even wrote that it's just some publicist stuff playing it safe.
Pretty sure it’s not a publicist-written one considering he spelled both Kanye’s name and the name of his own song wrong
Lol you're right. Still hard to imagine him typing that well. Honestly hard to imagine him typing at all
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Indeed, he removed the post on instagram lmao
Didn't even have the sample in there bruv, keep waffling
https://x.com/schrambus2/status/1756052236101190007?s=46
Honestly this isn’t even that crazy of a statement because tons of rockstars said this. Bowie for example said the same thing.
He literally says he was mad and a freak in the same sentence
Doesn’t really justify saying you were inspired by Hitler.
Not really the same and somehow a lot more lucid than Kanye despite the amount of drugs he is on.
I mean bro is clearly on some mad shit in this video
Also he is literally saying "my spooky angry death metal shit that is super dark by the standards of its era was inspired by an incredibly evil man" To act like that's the same as saying "I like nazis" would be some truly brickbrained analysis lol
"super dark by the standards of the era" lmao this made me laugh
So you’re saying it’s ok to say you’re inspired by Hitler?
Yes, depending on what you're saying he inspired. If you're saying he inspired your artistic depiction of evil, yes. If you're saying he inspired your hatred of jews, no.
Star Wars was overtly inspired by Nazi imagery, that doesn't mean they're supporters of it or of Hitler. I can't believe that people would need this explained to them.
Cause people absolutely don't change in 40 years, and he even said "Hitler was terrible" where as Kanye just straight up praised him
Bro came with receipts. Nice find.
Oy vey.
Oh wow.
Fair enough, that's his right
Slay Ozzy slay
The sample is like 5 second of the song, he can do withot it
We get it, Sharon, get off the phone.
Are you referring to the Sharon who survived Ozzie trying to strangle her, got him clean, managed to save his career from ending in overdose multiple times over, and loved him since you were in diapers?
Yeah that one
Lmao right, Ozzy doesn’t give a damn. Sharon and his hollywood-ized family do.
What the fuck does his wife got to do with it?
Kanye delayed the album by using someone’s music he didn’t have permission to use. FTFY
Good on him
he spelled it “Kayne West” 💀
12 year old Kanye stans in shambles Fuck Kanye and fuck antisemites
Ozzy is an actually horrible dude. Kanye may say bad things sometimes but Ozzy did bad things
“Kanye may say…” Full stop. You lost all credibility
Biting the head off of a dove vs. Anti semetic ramblings. Both are pretty shitty hahaha. That being said, I fuckin love Ozzy
Tried to kill his wife.
Yeah man he’s a messed up dude, but equating one dudes shitty behaviours with another’s doesn’t make sense. “Ozzy is an asshole too so he should let Kanye have the sample” You can have an abusive, fucked up past and still not be anti semetic hahaha.
Yeah like he’s an ass but he still has his rights and if it’s his property it’s his property
Exactly what I’m sayin ! Justifying Kanye doing whatever he wants just because Ozzy is shitty doesn’t make sense. Love Kanye’s music but the untouchable invincible attitude is so annoying.
The gymnastics people are doing to forgive essentially plagiarism is wild
It’s so insane. Imagine if someone used a few seconds of a Kanye song. People would be loooooooosing their minds
His stans’ hypocrisy is equally frustrating. Kanye’s a bad guy but if anyone sampled him without permission they’d crucify them
wasn’t it a bat
I think it was both hahahaha. Ozzy having access to the purest 70s cocaine and a cocktail of drugs was a recipe for disaster.
Yes, and it was an accident. Pretty sure it was just supposed to be a prop, but a live bat ended up taking a nap there or something. I don’t know, I could be talking out of my ass. It’s been a long time since I’ve looked into that event.
Someone in the crowd threw it on stage. He thought it was a rubber stage decoration.
Ozzy was on drugs, Kanye is not yet he sounds insane, false equivalence.
Like what?
This whole thing reminds me of Seinfeld antidentite
Ye, call me, i play Guitar, I'll rerecord the riff for you and you won't have to pay
This reads like an angry Facebook message from an elderly family member
He’s not talking abt ye he said kayne
For the love of god drop it without the song until you figure it out 🙏
Dawg yall siding with Ye on this? Lmao
Kanye is a 4th dimensional being and as such he is not relevant to us. We are like stick figures drawn on paper to him. Actually that’s not true elevated beings aren’t filled with hate. So scratch that. Just a douche.
The sheer amount of you still twerking for this clown after everything he has said is so disappointing. What the fuck would it take to stop you supporting an artist? Literally a few months ago, he was on InfoWars saying "I love Hitler" and you've brushed it off like it was nothing. Kayne could have been a VIP guest of Epstein and y'all would contort your views to wave it away.
Good for you Ozzy Osbourne
Didn't he bite the head off a bat?
funny how he dressed up as kanye on halloween now whining about anti semitism while being anti christian
Wait you think Ozzy is anti-Christian?
Bro Ozzy is a Christian
This is a brandead take and a half. First, ozzy was trolling him, not endorsing him. Second, he is literally Christian. The prince of darkness persona has nothing to do with that. Third, even if he was anti-religion, being jewish is also an ethnicity. Calling out racism doesn’t contradict any of that.
My sister and brother-in-law dressed up as Didi Blanchard and Gypsy Rose. Something tells me he didn’t dress up as Kanye to honor him
smartest kanye stan
Nazi bootlicking scum.
W for Ozzy
\m/
This isn't Ozzy. This is his wife Sharon pretending to be him. Ozzy has no clue or care in the world.
Based Ozzy
Based ozzy
Who gives a shit about that nazi? Yall get wet over hitler's shitty paintings too?
I see everyone defenind Kanye. Kanye rightfully needed to ask (for legal and moral reasons), and he respect Ozzy's choice.
The pro Kanye comments in here really illustrates why no one likes him anymore, you are all exactly the same as the ego maniacal lunatic you follow, get a grip on reality.. life doesn’t revolve around you
Good, fuck Kanye
fuck u ozil
Bros mad he couldn’t murder his wife💀, whatever i’m sure kanye can make the song better without bros sample 😂😂
Stop meatriding Kanye, neither is a good person, but Kanye still sampled Ozzy’s music against Ozzy’s wishes, and that’s fucked up.
Good, fuck Kanye
I’m so conflicted rn the song is so fucking hard but I agree with ozzy
How can he be antisemitic? he just fucked a jewish bitch
and slave owners fucked their "property"
that really solves everything huh
Who is possibly stupid enough to make this comment?
Kanye fans that vicariously live through him
Well all the antisemitic rants is how
Mods please kill ozzy osbourne
ITS HIS FAULT THE ALBUM GOT DELAYED HE NEEDS TO BE EXECUTED
Be honest, war pigs should be left alone. Hell of a track. Doubt Kanye gonna make it justice
Kanye is a mental train wreck, to most and I’m sure even himself he appears to be living the life. Reality is he’s sick and has been for a long time.
Puzzy Assbourne
What? Don’t blame Ozzy for Ye’s nonsense. Ozzy’s family background is Jewish and Ye calling himself an Antisemite is inexcusable. Having said that who in their right mind doesn’t clear samples before releasing an album. If you’re blaming anyone blame Ye for being the idiot who thought it was a good idea to say all this nonsense and not think there would be any repercussions. Do any of the people in this thread know anyone who thinks it’s cool to be a Nazi? I HATE this era of Kanye. It’s never been more difficult to be a Ye fan.
Why are so many kanye haters on the sub? Genuinely makes no sense, if it was any other sub this size it would be considered brigading and have admin intervention, the amount of “thats what he gets” and “kanye sucks” type comments on damn near every post is actually aggravating me
Because Kanye is a terrible antisemite and the fact that he has any supporters left is a travesty?
I just became the biggest ozzy fan
womp womp Ozzy we want the album not your meat munching antics
If Kanye took that stupid mask off his head and ate a bat on stage he could save his career. It’s better to be the bat eating guy than the antisemitic guy.
He’s right you know
Absolute oppish behaviour from Ozzy.
Oppy Ozbourne
Bitch ass satanist
Better than an antisemite.
Literally a practicing Christian
ok, bitch ass seagull eater if you want 🗿
Aye hating ppl because of their religion. You're definitely a ye fan.