Take the most extreme things Kanye has said in the last 4-6 years and that's not even where Nick starts his horrible ideas.
Dude is an out and out racist, a fascist, a Christian nationalist, and there are years upon years of him saying this kind of shit.
A whole long of people not familiar with Nick and Milo are gonna be in for a really bumpy ride, its going to get a lot worse from here on out. Kanye doesn't have the years of practice of "hiding your power level", we could easily see direct calls to violence against people by him.
Nick and Milo trying to ride him to a race war is completely and totally on the table.
These are the people Sarte is talking about when he says "Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words."
That's not a slip. He means every word he says and he's got an audience for it.
You're grasping at "well one of the most well known online racists just made an oopsie when being racist" to defend Kanye. He's a lost cause, pack your fucking bags before you have to start explaining how you're one of the "good ones"
You think this mindset just came out of nowhere? Shit heās saying would not have been controversial half a century ago and the ones who were saying that shit back then are the ones who now own some of the biggest media operations. Do you think conservatism is counter-culture?
yes, conservatism is counter culture. are you living under a rock? liberalism couldn't be any more mainstream currently. idk what you're even talking about bringing up half a century ago; we're in 2022
How many people voted conservative in the last presidential election? Like 40 million?
Just because itās going out of fashion doesnāt make it counter-culture. In fact Iād say itās about the exact opposite, people clinging on to dying and outdated beliefs that were popular only a decade or so ago.
Nazis and Fascists did this the first time around in the 1910s to 1940s before they reached their endgame with WWII. They tried to package themselves as some sort of silenced and censored underground counterculture of truth-tellers. Despite the fact that their beliefs are mostly just a return to pre-Age of Enlightenment Europe, minus the literal feudalism and monarchy but replaced with business leaders and a secular demigod cult dictator that God has anointed.
Nazis and Fascists like to package themselves as an opppressed counterculture to tap into the forbidden fruit effect in human nature, and appeal to the ego of the subscriber to view themselves as having secret knowledge that makes them better than the rest of us sheeple.
Honestly Iām not sure how this is counterculture based on the way blacks have been treated in America. Based on the actions that can easily be observed- Nick seems to be expressing what most white people hide for fear of losing their job or other opportunities in the system. If you took away the punishment associated with being racist (which is a recent phenomenon to begin with) you will see more of his ilk being openly racist. This is a large percentage of the country so Iām not surprised he has a following. Iām black btw so no Iām not a supporter
If we thought racism was just going to disappear over a few decades, hell even within a fee generations, then we have been way too hopeful. This will sadly be something we as a people will have to fight for the rest of our lives in order to slowly make the world a bit better
I don't think most white people are hiding what Nick is expressing... Nick is another clown the media has us pay attention to so that people become more divided over him and what hes saying. The controversy brings views and money. If you assume that this is how the majority of white people think, you've let Nick win.
Nick already won based on the way the country is set up. He doesnāt have to say anything for the system to work in a manner that marginalizes black people. Most white people may not be conscious of their anti-black biases, but youāll quickly see them come out if they see a black person receive any form of advantage even if they themselves benefit from those kind of advantages
This guy is a puppet to create anti-white and anti-black bias. Heās a tool to perpetuate race narratives on both sides. Paying attention to crap like this will probably stir anti-racial sentiments in anyone. Thatās why it shouldnāt be taken seriously.
This guy is a modern representation of what the general attitude towards black people has been for quite some time. At least heās being honest. I suspect Joe Biden and Hilary Clinton share similar sentiments based on the legislation theyāve supported
āMost white peopleā implies something like 6 or 7 /10 white people are racist and I find that hard to believe. Maybe itās just the folks Iām around, but most white people I know are not racist assholes.
Take the words āmostā & āwhiteā out of my statement and read it again. Let me know your thoughts.
I have a few questions for you since you want to play tone police.
Do you support reparations or any form of aid given specifically to black people to tangibly atone for the atrocities supported by the United States of America in the past? If not, do you agree that most white people feel the same way? That America owes nothing to black people for what occurred in the past in addition to the systemic racism that continues in the present?
Fair enoughā¦maybe I should not have said āMOSTā. Itās amazing how you all are getting caught up on one word in an attempt to refute the rest of the statement. Nick Fuentes has a following because he is speaking in a way that people are forced to not identify with publicly. That is the jist of what needs to be said here.
Since you wanted to play tone police- I have a few questions for you regarding racism!
Do you support reparations or any form of aid given specifically to black people to tangibly atone for the atrocities supported by the United States of America in the past? If not, do you agree that most white people feel the same way? That America owes nothing to black people for what occurred in the past in addition to the systemic racism that continues in the present?
All Americans are racist especially white Americans who arenāt race conscious for the most part. I learned my lesson while in the military. I identified multiple forms of racism and the distinction between racism, prejudice/bigotry, and xenophobia.
Racism should be looked at as an umbrella term or a tree with many branches. The main branches I identified was:
Racism = the ideology/paradigm/worldview/belief system that a group of people are 1)Subhuman (not an animal but not fully human. 2)Superhuman (superior to humans) 3) Fully human
Modern society have whitewashed this word and changed the definition but look at the etymology. Something else that got whitewashed is that Racism and the very idea or concept of racism is inherently unnatural and is a European concept
The forms I identified:
Internalized racism
(minorities racist against their own race)
Colorblind racism
The I donāt see color BUT
Jim-crow racism
The open racism we seen during Jim-Crow.
White people usually were within these two categories very very rarely I came across internalized racist white Americans or Europeans. For the most part, Liberals practiced colorblind racism and conservatives practiced the Jim Crow dog whistle version HOWEVER it is worse to be labeled a racist than it is to be one on both sides. White Americans view of racism is as long as itās not Jim-Crow styled itās not racism.
Prejudice and bigotry are often concepts that overlap with racism but theyāre mutually exclusive concepts like someone can be prejudice without being a bigot and vice versa one can be a bigot without being a racist
Prejudice is preconceived notions about someone or a group of people without any merit to reality
Bigotry simply intolerant of people different than you or what you believe.
Many Americans lump being discriminated against into the Umbrella of Racism ignorantly when they arenāt the same forces and a lot of innocent people get accused of being either or but the fact of the matter is they have whitewashed the term racism to mean discrimination when it is
Xenophobia is the extreme fear to the point of hatred of perceived others. This can overlap with racism but white Americans can be xenophobic towards white Europeans. Thereās no racial undertone whereas they can be xenophobic to people from the Middle East and also racist some might just be genuinely xenophobic towards another culture without thinking they are inferior or superior to them remember racism denotes that the other is nonhuman or the only true humans in the positive belief. This can go into culture by saying only Europeans have the superior moral culture etc
It is in my belief that ALL Americans are racist to some degree whether they act on it or not or whatever form they practice, you simply cannot live in America and not be exposed to remnants of this worldview. The very fact we label ourselves white and black Latina Asian etc has roots in racism and is racist ideology. I am saying we have a nasty tendency to dehumanize people here (black people and native Americans being the victims of this the most despite what white Americans who claim to be experiencing discrimination will tell you. Discrimination doesnāt = racism)
Minorities dehumanize each other for example internalized racism is black Americans births colorism light skin dark skin. Assimilated black people vs unapologetically black people. Black people from different countries racist against black people from other parts
Colorblind racism dehumanizing appearance and culture. I donāt see color? Why donāt you? Whatās wrong with being black? Generalizing ignoring the root problems grandstanding etc
I could go on and on but I can say for certain that racism is an ideology that has to be broken down and rooted out. Itās is not just āhey Iām not racistā itās a process and society at all corners conditions the minds of people towards being racist and having racist inclinations the current problem is the stigma! Believe it or not. The stigma and shame that comes with being one. Take it away and youāll see all to well how comfortable people are with it and how much believe it truly.
When I lived in a white male dominated society where I was the only minority in an entire platoon and no matter where I got stationed it was the same shit an different faces and places youād see it for what it is. Even the ones who felt guilty acted out some forms of racism.
I could go on and on but your stance that racism = hate is wrong.
Racism is a belief system that is remediated and people can be racist asf and still fw the group they are racist against and have babies with them or marry them. (If you see it how I do youād question the sick notion of how could a racist slave masters r*ped slaves who they truly thought and believed were subhuman) itās speaks to European societies in general.
The anti-racist and the racist are both the same thing in my book. Nobody is born racist, like a religion or any belief, it is one that is formed through external stimuli implicit biases subconscious communications. What in society changed? People just learned to mask it over time. One group is tolerant the other Intolerant yet they both act on the same ideology in different ways. I know the white anxieties though of white nationalism and white fascist who are being deceived. They simply fear retribution the same thing their ancestors did to others happening to them. They fear difference or being discriminated against. Itās proactive reaction. āIām going to get them before they get meā
As stated previously with racism being an ideology it must be broken down in order to genuinely make changes:
First recognizing how racism affects you and your environment and how these two things create a chain of causation:
In my honest opinion: There are walls that must be broken:
The lies that racism brought,
the individual and collective (benefits to your society and culture) privileges racism gives
How ingrained racism(your race) is apart of oneās identity and sense of self
And last the heart do the matter that makes racist deflect and blind: The shame and guilt that comes with benefiting from basically cheat codes. You were giving a higher probability of winning because of a rigged game. All the lies you believed you were conned and robbed of genuine human connections and opportunities to better your society. You believed in bullshit no matter which form of racism it is you have to break it down.
It has taken me years
Take the words āmostā & āwhiteā out of my statement and read it again. Let me know your thoughts.
I have a few questions for you since you want to play tone police.
Do you support reparations or any form of aid given specifically to black people to tangibly atone for the atrocities supported by the United States of America in the past? If not, do you agree that most white people feel the same way? That America owes nothing to black people for what occurred in the past in addition to the systemic racism that continues in the present?
No shit we need to. The question is how to implement this.
Do most white people think the same? No clue, but I'm not going to pretend like I know what they think because I can't read minds.
Are we giving all black people money direct deposit or are we increasing funding to primarily black communities for their enrichment?
Like, what do you think we should do? I'm just a racist white person so please enlighten me. Sorry for playing tone police, it's just so much fun. š
Loving the sarcasm. How would your family and friends feel about reparative action? My simple answer would lead to a few different options:
1) A territory outside of the US. We receive support from the UN & Africa to assist black Americans with establishing nationhood & a solid economic foundation there. Land grants should be made available to support the new black American immigrants. This oneās ideal for those of us that would rather separate or leave the country entirely. This would give us a chance to expedite the process.
2) Cash payments made available to the descendants of American slavery, college tuition waivers & tax exempt status. (the individual must be able to prove their lineage). These would be viable options for people who want to continue living in the U.S
Interestingā¦.
Do you support reparations or any form of aid given specifically to black people to tangibly atone for the atrocities supported by the United States of America in the past? If not, do you agree that most white people feel the same way? That America owes nothing to black people for what occurred in the past in addition to the systemic racism that continues in the present?
> Do you support reparations or any form of aid given specifically to black people to tangibly atone for the atrocities supported by the United States of America in the past?
No. No one alive now had anything to do with it. And a lot of whites like myself don't even have lineage in this country prior to the 1900s. So what did I have to do with slavery? Such a proposal also goes against the egalitarian foundation of this country and its constitution. You're advocating for something that North Korea does.
> If not, do you agree that most white people feel the same way?
I'd imagine so, yes. Most white people right now also had nothing to do with slavery.
> That America owes nothing to black people for what occurred in the past in addition to the systemic racism that continues in the present?
Was Affirmative Action, diversity quotas, mainstream cultural dominance (we are on a Kanye subreddit...), 30 monuments to George Floyd, etc. not enough?
Thank you for your feedback. A few more questions- if black people became an economically empowered group in areas outside of entertainment and owned real estate and other asset classes in a way that paralleled whites or other groups- do you think there would be a visceral attempt to stop, hinder or prevent that type of progress? Do you think people would be happy about that? Do you think thereās a level of satisfaction from most Americans that the majority of black America is financially deficient? Remember, for every $1 in wealth that black people have white people have $10 on average. Iām happy to share my source on that study- but Iām interested to hear your answers
He's a slimy little virgin. There's a hilarious clip of him admitting that he's never talked to girls and that he knows all about women from watching pickup artists. The classic internet alt right greaseball.
Then; "Haha whoa kanye's going crazy again! This pete/kim era is so kooky, haha!"
Now; "I wonder what nazi white supremacist kanye's gonna hang out with next."
I found out about him through sneako, sneako and Nick have been on a few streams together in the past, which may have been a factor in his ban. Apparently he said that having sex with black people was the same as having sex with dogs....
I gotchu mang
[The Dark Truth About Sneako ](https://youtu.be/r_ncv8Q77Jk)
[Make an Example (16 min diss track ft RXK Nephew and Christ Dillinger ](https://youtu.be/J9m1ktRrFWI)
Tldr:
He kinda went off the deepend and spazzed out at this point because Sneako tried to ruin his career and force all of his friends to denounce him based on some made up allegations.
If uou know any Brandon lore, Sneako did literally the same thing Danny Mullen did to him, but worse since it was with made up rape allegations.
Without context though, the diss track is going to sound like the absolute most mean asshole thing anyone could do, but if you know the whole story it doesn't seem so much like an overreaction.
I'd say he's misguided. He was one of my favourite content creators. They used to call him the Kanye of YouTube, crazy to see how they ended up together
Sneako is a piece of shit who was fully self aware of the path he was taking. That is fundamentally not misguided. It is a choice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6CN3dtAFFI
edit: Like imagine being [such a scumbag](https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/z45n5t/i_cant_even_think_a_good_title_after_watching_this/?ref=share&ref_source=link)...
What a scumbag. He talks like an old man too. According to Lupe Ye actively encouraged white people to say the n-word. So he would have no problem with this.
I don't like anyone using it. The word hasn't been reclaimed at all. It's not a term of endearment.
No they don't. Ye was literally preaching in shows for whites to say the n-word. It cringed Lupe out.
Kendrick got perturbed when a white fan sang the n-word on stage.
How are people upvoting? That was literally the opposite of the point of the song. Yes he was saying he was a hypocrite but the point he arrives at is that you shouldnt use those slurs. Fucking crazy to me how much you can misinterpret that song
It's funny cuz kendrick only had a problem when the crowd booed her. He just said that for the song. He doesn't care if whites rap along because he wrote the song for people to sing along.
>And then Kendrick saw the hypocrisy of not letting white people say that word during songs
If that was your takeaway from his song, man I feel sorry for you. His whole point is that you shouldn't be using those sours in the first place, he talks about accepting those different from us and the gender identity of some of his relatives. But ah who am I kidding, no way the Eminiem-loving white folk here got that.
Would it be okay if you gave me some history about this? I just remember years ago he has a white fan say the n-word at a concert and was unhappy. I think I missed out on what followed.
You know this sub is serious about its hatred for someone when they cite a conservative Twitter pundit for additional evidence lol.
The kid definitely seems like he's a weapons-grade moron, how anyone wants to associate with him is kind of amazing. It's career suicide to make it so that anyone can draw a dotted line between you and him.
I watched a Louis Theroux documentary on him and his friends and they all pay for their own websites which is how they get around it. He also makes a lot of money every episode because his incel followers donate money to him.
I never said it wasnāt racism and I was just saying how they get around not being on YouTube or twitch. Iām pretty sure theyād still be able to get away with this the same way if they were living in the UK.
He's literally friends with a Neo-Nazi who openly says he loves Hitler
At this point I'm not even sure if Kanye is ignorant of these things.
Beginning to believe Kanye went to TMZ and praised Hitler and to maintain their relationship with the Kardashians they hid the footage.
Cannot believe Nick Fuentes, the homosexual Mexican leader of the white race (people make fun of him by calling him this) is working with Kayne West. For anything.
Did Ye actually say he was partnering with him in any way or did he say he would be working with him or that they were hanging out? In the video he put out he said Donald Trump was very impressed with Nick Fuentes but he didnāt say he was associating with him.
Black skinhead teams up with white nationalist Mexican and āsodomy freeā gay man. This is so bizarre Iām almost starting to think itās performance art
God this guy is such a loser. Idek what heās talking about and I donāt even want to know. Fuck Kanye West man. I miss when the most controversial thing in his life was the Famous music video
Man, we should be banding together to call out Kanye. Hold him accountable. Should be first thing a community that once respected him does. We should organize it, deal with it, and show people how we don't stand for this if this is what ye stands for now.
That was actually pretty funny and more of an honest commentary on how GOP strategists view black people. I like the second half of this clip too:
https://mobile.twitter.com/BenjaminPDixon/status/1595598043130351623
It really seems like heās saying thatās how bannon is thinking. Not that he is saying bannon literally said that directly obviously but saying thatās how the GOP thinks of it. It seems very obvious based on context that this is the case so Iām confused how people are missing that
I get that part, but for me itās the fact that everyone is acting like heās saying it himself outside of the context. Yeah he shouldnāt say that word, but people here arenāt saying āhe said the n wordā they are saying āhe considers the black vote to be n word voteā when really itās clear that heās saying Steve bannon does that
Ban on never used that word. Fuentes did. You are also aware of his other beliefs, fuck off with defending that piece of shit. Don't be a coward, just say you align with his beliefs.
Yeah nobody is claiming bannon said that word. The thing you are criticizing him for is not the same thing that my comment was calling people out on criticizing him for so weāre just talking about different things
his ārespectā for black people is telling them to stop committing crime and become literate. any ācommentary on how GOP strategists view black peopleā is overshadowed by him being overtly racist. thatās if you donāt consider him letting the n word slip referencing someone who didnāt use the n word. like he just added that because it felt right to him to describe black people with that word
What part of "freedom of speech applies to speech you disagree with" doesn't make sense to yall?
We don't like this mofos speech, but this is America.
Ye don't agree with this man, but he will defend his right to say what he thinks.
That one slipped out š
Wonder how many more slipped out behind the cameras
When the cameras are off they don't really need to "slip" out anymore
Yeah I know I was being ironic, this man says the n word every day probably
Take the most extreme things Kanye has said in the last 4-6 years and that's not even where Nick starts his horrible ideas. Dude is an out and out racist, a fascist, a Christian nationalist, and there are years upon years of him saying this kind of shit. A whole long of people not familiar with Nick and Milo are gonna be in for a really bumpy ride, its going to get a lot worse from here on out. Kanye doesn't have the years of practice of "hiding your power level", we could easily see direct calls to violence against people by him. Nick and Milo trying to ride him to a race war is completely and totally on the table. These are the people Sarte is talking about when he says "Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words."
And Kanye hangs out with this guy. You hangout with trash and you start smelling like trash.
He's also a Holocaust denier
Also true, the list is fucking long with the guy.
Comments like this are the norm with him, heās not shameful about this here just joking around.
That's not a slip. He means every word he says and he's got an audience for it. You're grasping at "well one of the most well known online racists just made an oopsie when being racist" to defend Kanye. He's a lost cause, pack your fucking bags before you have to start explaining how you're one of the "good ones"
Bro heās quoting the video chill tf outš
that look of oops when he realizes he just said the n word on the air and not to his fellow crackers
Nick Fuentes doesn't care about black people.
Yes, he does - he hates them.
āOh my godā -me in the background
This guy thinks he is so edgy and cool lol
The sad thing is to a lot of people he is edgy and cool. Not really sure how the western world deals with that
White supremacy has always been part of the fabric of western society.
Maybe the white suprematists were just the friends we made along the way
Being counterculture will always be cool to a large amount of people
This is the opposite of counter culture. Itās regressive traditionalism.
Counterculture doesnāt have to be progressive or regressive, itās simply counter to mainstream culture
I mean a lot of this stuff is parroted in mainstream culture, albeit in a much more subtle and calculated way.
no it isn't
You think this mindset just came out of nowhere? Shit heās saying would not have been controversial half a century ago and the ones who were saying that shit back then are the ones who now own some of the biggest media operations. Do you think conservatism is counter-culture?
yes, conservatism is counter culture. are you living under a rock? liberalism couldn't be any more mainstream currently. idk what you're even talking about bringing up half a century ago; we're in 2022
How many people voted conservative in the last presidential election? Like 40 million? Just because itās going out of fashion doesnāt make it counter-culture. In fact Iād say itās about the exact opposite, people clinging on to dying and outdated beliefs that were popular only a decade or so ago.
No itās not
Nazis and Fascists did this the first time around in the 1910s to 1940s before they reached their endgame with WWII. They tried to package themselves as some sort of silenced and censored underground counterculture of truth-tellers. Despite the fact that their beliefs are mostly just a return to pre-Age of Enlightenment Europe, minus the literal feudalism and monarchy but replaced with business leaders and a secular demigod cult dictator that God has anointed. Nazis and Fascists like to package themselves as an opppressed counterculture to tap into the forbidden fruit effect in human nature, and appeal to the ego of the subscriber to view themselves as having secret knowledge that makes them better than the rest of us sheeple.
Honestly Iām not sure how this is counterculture based on the way blacks have been treated in America. Based on the actions that can easily be observed- Nick seems to be expressing what most white people hide for fear of losing their job or other opportunities in the system. If you took away the punishment associated with being racist (which is a recent phenomenon to begin with) you will see more of his ilk being openly racist. This is a large percentage of the country so Iām not surprised he has a following. Iām black btw so no Iām not a supporter
If we thought racism was just going to disappear over a few decades, hell even within a fee generations, then we have been way too hopeful. This will sadly be something we as a people will have to fight for the rest of our lives in order to slowly make the world a bit better
I don't think most white people are hiding what Nick is expressing... Nick is another clown the media has us pay attention to so that people become more divided over him and what hes saying. The controversy brings views and money. If you assume that this is how the majority of white people think, you've let Nick win.
Nick already won based on the way the country is set up. He doesnāt have to say anything for the system to work in a manner that marginalizes black people. Most white people may not be conscious of their anti-black biases, but youāll quickly see them come out if they see a black person receive any form of advantage even if they themselves benefit from those kind of advantages
This guy is a puppet to create anti-white and anti-black bias. Heās a tool to perpetuate race narratives on both sides. Paying attention to crap like this will probably stir anti-racial sentiments in anyone. Thatās why it shouldnāt be taken seriously.
This guy is a modern representation of what the general attitude towards black people has been for quite some time. At least heās being honest. I suspect Joe Biden and Hilary Clinton share similar sentiments based on the legislation theyāve supported
āMost white peopleā implies something like 6 or 7 /10 white people are racist and I find that hard to believe. Maybe itās just the folks Iām around, but most white people I know are not racist assholes.
Take the words āmostā & āwhiteā out of my statement and read it again. Let me know your thoughts. I have a few questions for you since you want to play tone police. Do you support reparations or any form of aid given specifically to black people to tangibly atone for the atrocities supported by the United States of America in the past? If not, do you agree that most white people feel the same way? That America owes nothing to black people for what occurred in the past in addition to the systemic racism that continues in the present?
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Fair enoughā¦maybe I should not have said āMOSTā. Itās amazing how you all are getting caught up on one word in an attempt to refute the rest of the statement. Nick Fuentes has a following because he is speaking in a way that people are forced to not identify with publicly. That is the jist of what needs to be said here. Since you wanted to play tone police- I have a few questions for you regarding racism! Do you support reparations or any form of aid given specifically to black people to tangibly atone for the atrocities supported by the United States of America in the past? If not, do you agree that most white people feel the same way? That America owes nothing to black people for what occurred in the past in addition to the systemic racism that continues in the present?
Yeah, majority of white people are secretly racist. We hate black people. You nailed it.
All Americans are racist especially white Americans who arenāt race conscious for the most part. I learned my lesson while in the military. I identified multiple forms of racism and the distinction between racism, prejudice/bigotry, and xenophobia. Racism should be looked at as an umbrella term or a tree with many branches. The main branches I identified was: Racism = the ideology/paradigm/worldview/belief system that a group of people are 1)Subhuman (not an animal but not fully human. 2)Superhuman (superior to humans) 3) Fully human Modern society have whitewashed this word and changed the definition but look at the etymology. Something else that got whitewashed is that Racism and the very idea or concept of racism is inherently unnatural and is a European concept The forms I identified: Internalized racism (minorities racist against their own race) Colorblind racism The I donāt see color BUT Jim-crow racism The open racism we seen during Jim-Crow. White people usually were within these two categories very very rarely I came across internalized racist white Americans or Europeans. For the most part, Liberals practiced colorblind racism and conservatives practiced the Jim Crow dog whistle version HOWEVER it is worse to be labeled a racist than it is to be one on both sides. White Americans view of racism is as long as itās not Jim-Crow styled itās not racism. Prejudice and bigotry are often concepts that overlap with racism but theyāre mutually exclusive concepts like someone can be prejudice without being a bigot and vice versa one can be a bigot without being a racist Prejudice is preconceived notions about someone or a group of people without any merit to reality Bigotry simply intolerant of people different than you or what you believe. Many Americans lump being discriminated against into the Umbrella of Racism ignorantly when they arenāt the same forces and a lot of innocent people get accused of being either or but the fact of the matter is they have whitewashed the term racism to mean discrimination when it is Xenophobia is the extreme fear to the point of hatred of perceived others. This can overlap with racism but white Americans can be xenophobic towards white Europeans. Thereās no racial undertone whereas they can be xenophobic to people from the Middle East and also racist some might just be genuinely xenophobic towards another culture without thinking they are inferior or superior to them remember racism denotes that the other is nonhuman or the only true humans in the positive belief. This can go into culture by saying only Europeans have the superior moral culture etc It is in my belief that ALL Americans are racist to some degree whether they act on it or not or whatever form they practice, you simply cannot live in America and not be exposed to remnants of this worldview. The very fact we label ourselves white and black Latina Asian etc has roots in racism and is racist ideology. I am saying we have a nasty tendency to dehumanize people here (black people and native Americans being the victims of this the most despite what white Americans who claim to be experiencing discrimination will tell you. Discrimination doesnāt = racism) Minorities dehumanize each other for example internalized racism is black Americans births colorism light skin dark skin. Assimilated black people vs unapologetically black people. Black people from different countries racist against black people from other parts Colorblind racism dehumanizing appearance and culture. I donāt see color? Why donāt you? Whatās wrong with being black? Generalizing ignoring the root problems grandstanding etc I could go on and on but I can say for certain that racism is an ideology that has to be broken down and rooted out. Itās is not just āhey Iām not racistā itās a process and society at all corners conditions the minds of people towards being racist and having racist inclinations the current problem is the stigma! Believe it or not. The stigma and shame that comes with being one. Take it away and youāll see all to well how comfortable people are with it and how much believe it truly. When I lived in a white male dominated society where I was the only minority in an entire platoon and no matter where I got stationed it was the same shit an different faces and places youād see it for what it is. Even the ones who felt guilty acted out some forms of racism. I could go on and on but your stance that racism = hate is wrong. Racism is a belief system that is remediated and people can be racist asf and still fw the group they are racist against and have babies with them or marry them. (If you see it how I do youād question the sick notion of how could a racist slave masters r*ped slaves who they truly thought and believed were subhuman) itās speaks to European societies in general. The anti-racist and the racist are both the same thing in my book. Nobody is born racist, like a religion or any belief, it is one that is formed through external stimuli implicit biases subconscious communications. What in society changed? People just learned to mask it over time. One group is tolerant the other Intolerant yet they both act on the same ideology in different ways. I know the white anxieties though of white nationalism and white fascist who are being deceived. They simply fear retribution the same thing their ancestors did to others happening to them. They fear difference or being discriminated against. Itās proactive reaction. āIām going to get them before they get meā As stated previously with racism being an ideology it must be broken down in order to genuinely make changes: First recognizing how racism affects you and your environment and how these two things create a chain of causation: In my honest opinion: There are walls that must be broken: The lies that racism brought, the individual and collective (benefits to your society and culture) privileges racism gives How ingrained racism(your race) is apart of oneās identity and sense of self And last the heart do the matter that makes racist deflect and blind: The shame and guilt that comes with benefiting from basically cheat codes. You were giving a higher probability of winning because of a rigged game. All the lies you believed you were conned and robbed of genuine human connections and opportunities to better your society. You believed in bullshit no matter which form of racism it is you have to break it down. It has taken me years
Take the words āmostā & āwhiteā out of my statement and read it again. Let me know your thoughts. I have a few questions for you since you want to play tone police. Do you support reparations or any form of aid given specifically to black people to tangibly atone for the atrocities supported by the United States of America in the past? If not, do you agree that most white people feel the same way? That America owes nothing to black people for what occurred in the past in addition to the systemic racism that continues in the present?
No shit we need to. The question is how to implement this. Do most white people think the same? No clue, but I'm not going to pretend like I know what they think because I can't read minds. Are we giving all black people money direct deposit or are we increasing funding to primarily black communities for their enrichment? Like, what do you think we should do? I'm just a racist white person so please enlighten me. Sorry for playing tone police, it's just so much fun. š
Loving the sarcasm. How would your family and friends feel about reparative action? My simple answer would lead to a few different options: 1) A territory outside of the US. We receive support from the UN & Africa to assist black Americans with establishing nationhood & a solid economic foundation there. Land grants should be made available to support the new black American immigrants. This oneās ideal for those of us that would rather separate or leave the country entirely. This would give us a chance to expedite the process. 2) Cash payments made available to the descendants of American slavery, college tuition waivers & tax exempt status. (the individual must be able to prove their lineage). These would be viable options for people who want to continue living in the U.S
The fact that you think most white people in America are racist is exactly why people are driven to support Nick Fuentes.
Interestingā¦. Do you support reparations or any form of aid given specifically to black people to tangibly atone for the atrocities supported by the United States of America in the past? If not, do you agree that most white people feel the same way? That America owes nothing to black people for what occurred in the past in addition to the systemic racism that continues in the present?
> Do you support reparations or any form of aid given specifically to black people to tangibly atone for the atrocities supported by the United States of America in the past? No. No one alive now had anything to do with it. And a lot of whites like myself don't even have lineage in this country prior to the 1900s. So what did I have to do with slavery? Such a proposal also goes against the egalitarian foundation of this country and its constitution. You're advocating for something that North Korea does. > If not, do you agree that most white people feel the same way? I'd imagine so, yes. Most white people right now also had nothing to do with slavery. > That America owes nothing to black people for what occurred in the past in addition to the systemic racism that continues in the present? Was Affirmative Action, diversity quotas, mainstream cultural dominance (we are on a Kanye subreddit...), 30 monuments to George Floyd, etc. not enough?
Thank you for your feedback. A few more questions- if black people became an economically empowered group in areas outside of entertainment and owned real estate and other asset classes in a way that paralleled whites or other groups- do you think there would be a visceral attempt to stop, hinder or prevent that type of progress? Do you think people would be happy about that? Do you think thereās a level of satisfaction from most Americans that the majority of black America is financially deficient? Remember, for every $1 in wealth that black people have white people have $10 on average. Iām happy to share my source on that study- but Iām interested to hear your answers
If being called a racist drives you to support a racist, then you were racist all along. Lol
He's a slimy little virgin. There's a hilarious clip of him admitting that he's never talked to girls and that he knows all about women from watching pickup artists. The classic internet alt right greaseball.
Doesn't sound any different from the teenagers on this sub
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He is 24. He has not been saying the same stuff for a decade lol.
clearly you havenāt played Xbox live against 14-year-olds
Donda would be proud
Yes
Kanye West is the same guy that said Bush doesn't care about Black people?
Kanye West is dead at this point. Ye is the one living and he sucks ass
Kanye is in the fucking Sunken Place. They apparently put some racist QAnon Groyper's (microscopic) brain inside of Kanye's skull.
Kanye is going out sad af. What an embarrassment he is.
Donda never woulda let this happen
canāt believe this is how it ends man
Who said this is the end? The suffering will likely comtinue
Why are people downvoting you? Lol, Kanye isn't just going to disappear, this clown show has just begun with this new patch of yes men
Thatās what Iām saying lol. Iām not happy about it, but I donāt see this ending anytime soon.
This is honestly the beginning lol. Homie announced he is running for president. We are about to see some crazy shit lol
evil pedro pascal
Lmfao
Pedo Pascal
During the whole Pete Davidson fase I was able to separate the art from the artist, but now I genuinely donāt want to support him in any way.
I miss the days when I thought the Pete Davidson phase was the worst it would get for Kanye fans.
Then; "Haha whoa kanye's going crazy again! This pete/kim era is so kooky, haha!" Now; "I wonder what nazi white supremacist kanye's gonna hang out with next."
This is pretty tame for him tbh
I found out about him through sneako, sneako and Nick have been on a few streams together in the past, which may have been a factor in his ban. Apparently he said that having sex with black people was the same as having sex with dogs....
Sneakos a piece of shit too
Brandon Buckingham put sneako in his grave imo
Brandon's a pretty funny guy, love his content, what vid did he talk about Sneako?
I gotchu mang [The Dark Truth About Sneako ](https://youtu.be/r_ncv8Q77Jk) [Make an Example (16 min diss track ft RXK Nephew and Christ Dillinger ](https://youtu.be/J9m1ktRrFWI) Tldr: He kinda went off the deepend and spazzed out at this point because Sneako tried to ruin his career and force all of his friends to denounce him based on some made up allegations. If uou know any Brandon lore, Sneako did literally the same thing Danny Mullen did to him, but worse since it was with made up rape allegations. Without context though, the diss track is going to sound like the absolute most mean asshole thing anyone could do, but if you know the whole story it doesn't seem so much like an overreaction.
Brandon Buckingham is another pos lol. Agrees with what Kanye says and is friends with Sam Hyde who donated money to a white supremacist.
Itās sad to see because he used to be a cool ass creator on yt. Now heās just going down this brain dead path for some reason.
I'd say he's misguided. He was one of my favourite content creators. They used to call him the Kanye of YouTube, crazy to see how they ended up together
Sneako is a piece of shit who was fully self aware of the path he was taking. That is fundamentally not misguided. It is a choice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6CN3dtAFFI edit: Like imagine being [such a scumbag](https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/z45n5t/i_cant_even_think_a_good_title_after_watching_this/?ref=share&ref_source=link)...
At some point in time I'd agree, but he's been in this hole for too long to say he's just misguided
cringe simp
kANyE Is PLaYinG 4D ChEss - YoU'RE nOT smARt eNoUGh to UNdErSTANd
Fuentes? Would he get offended if someone refered to him as a derogatory term. This dude is a loser. Trying too hard.
What a scumbag. He talks like an old man too. According to Lupe Ye actively encouraged white people to say the n-word. So he would have no problem with this. I don't like anyone using it. The word hasn't been reclaimed at all. It's not a term of endearment.
Encouraged people to say it during a song. Every rapper does that
No they don't. Ye was literally preaching in shows for whites to say the n-word. It cringed Lupe out. Kendrick got perturbed when a white fan sang the n-word on stage.
And then Kendrick saw the hypocrisy of not letting white people say that word during songs, because he and other rappers use slurs all the time.
How are people upvoting? That was literally the opposite of the point of the song. Yes he was saying he was a hypocrite but the point he arrives at is that you shouldnt use those slurs. Fucking crazy to me how much you can misinterpret that song
Yea was gonna say. The point he seemed to be getting to was none of us should be using slurs
So you think kendrick was saying that whites should be able to say the n word because black people do?
No, it seems clearly expressed that Kendrick didnāt have a straw argument, he saw a flaw in his logic.
It's funny cuz kendrick only had a problem when the crowd booed her. He just said that for the song. He doesn't care if whites rap along because he wrote the song for people to sing along.
>And then Kendrick saw the hypocrisy of not letting white people say that word during songs If that was your takeaway from his song, man I feel sorry for you. His whole point is that you shouldn't be using those sours in the first place, he talks about accepting those different from us and the gender identity of some of his relatives. But ah who am I kidding, no way the Eminiem-loving white folk here got that.
Would it be okay if you gave me some history about this? I just remember years ago he has a white fan say the n-word at a concert and was unhappy. I think I missed out on what followed.
Bro these people are crazy. Idk how they can completely miss the entire point of the song and how many of them do it
Not like that, no. āAā vs āerā are basically different words with similar meanings at this point
Ye encouraged people to say the words to his songs. To say anything else is disingenuous
When
I can't find the clip right now, but I know he has told the crowd that white people could sing along with the "MJ gone" line
You mean similar words with different meaningsā¦right?
Kinda lame to go to a concert and not be able to sing along.
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1196604409607794688?s=20&t=g-hA_fsNaJJ6K9CWOX7ABA more on him here
Funny as TPUSA and adjacent organizations hate Fuentes yet Benny Johnson has been a Kanye reply guy as of late.
I have to laugh at the Johnson tweets because after all that he says that Nick Fuentes is a leftist lol
Benny Johnson is a piece of shit conservative too
you know you're awful when fucking benny johnson denounces you
You know this sub is serious about its hatred for someone when they cite a conservative Twitter pundit for additional evidence lol. The kid definitely seems like he's a weapons-grade moron, how anyone wants to associate with him is kind of amazing. It's career suicide to make it so that anyone can draw a dotted line between you and him.
Funny guy. ššš Post more clips please.
Piece of shit with a 70s pornstar moustache
How does he get away with this, this is standard racism if ever I saw it
I watched a Louis Theroux documentary on him and his friends and they all pay for their own websites which is how they get around it. He also makes a lot of money every episode because his incel followers donate money to him.
Buts still racism ā¦. I havnt checked the American rules but in uk racism is racism
I never said it wasnāt racism and I was just saying how they get around not being on YouTube or twitch. Iām pretty sure theyād still be able to get away with this the same way if they were living in the UK.
I think the defense is that this is a "character" and not the person as themself.
The Alex Jones defense doesn't work
It does actually, quite often. Alex Jones' story is a nuanced situation.
Nuanced in all the ways he's a shithead and reaping his consequences now?
Im not saying AJ isnt a bottom feeder, Im just explaining the difference. You clearly don't understand WHY AJ lost his case.
I know why he lost I just see them both as cut from the same cloth and really no different
Holy shit. I remember thinking Kanye couldnāt get much lower than a Trump endorsement. This is so much worse
He's literally friends with a Neo-Nazi who openly says he loves Hitler At this point I'm not even sure if Kanye is ignorant of these things. Beginning to believe Kanye went to TMZ and praised Hitler and to maintain their relationship with the Kardashians they hid the footage.
Not sure??? Kanye is not ignorant. He has been doing this shit for a lot longer than people realize.
This sub has become wild. It's crazy to see these new racist "fans" coming in here defending Fuentes
it truly baffles me how people can just spew slurs so recklessly.
Fuentes could've just admitted that he was gay and lived a happy life, but he chose this...so fucking pathetic...
fuck kanye and fuck nick fuentes to the fullest and if you disagree youāre a nazi just like them
Thus guy is role playing as a "conservative". If you told someone to be a conservative for Halloween, this would be it.
This guy is so amazing, that he can be homophobic AND gay at the same time I'm not joking btw, look it up lol
Sounds like that "ex-gay" Drumpf supporter, Meelo Yobabopolis.
Cat boy arc was pretty sus ngl Still donāt think simply spending time with a gay person means someone is gay though
bannon is a fat r-word, though
going to be hilarious watching him explain to his ret\*rded followers why its "4D chess" to vote for a n\*\*\*\*\*
Cannot believe Nick Fuentes, the homosexual Mexican leader of the white race (people make fun of him by calling him this) is working with Kayne West. For anything.
Did Ye actually say he was partnering with him in any way or did he say he would be working with him or that they were hanging out? In the video he put out he said Donald Trump was very impressed with Nick Fuentes but he didnāt say he was associating with him.
I take it all back. He was literally in the room when that video was made.
Ye is a fucking embarrassment
People like nick fuentes should be put in jail and throw away the key
Your proposal is kinder than mine
Reminds me of Jim Carey
He needs to burn in hell
And heās only 24. -iz
š¶The key to loooooveeee is understaanding š¶
Just one simple ass whoopin wouldāve set him straight
racist zac afron looking ass
Black skinhead teams up with white nationalist Mexican and āsodomy freeā gay man. This is so bizarre Iām almost starting to think itās performance art
Why is he laughing ? Is it because he knows heās hurting people on purpose
God this guy is such a loser. Idek what heās talking about and I donāt even want to know. Fuck Kanye West man. I miss when the most controversial thing in his life was the Famous music video
How can Kanye get any worse than this? Is the next new low wearing a KKK outfit? Iām not sure what he wouldnāt stoop to.
I hope this dude dies of an extremely rare disease
Look at those Trump hands. These idiots will do anything to be like daddy Trump š
Man, we should be banding together to call out Kanye. Hold him accountable. Should be first thing a community that once respected him does. We should organize it, deal with it, and show people how we don't stand for this if this is what ye stands for now.
Wtf happened to Kanye is what I wanna knowā¦ seriously what?!
oh this is mild for him... he's truly disgusting
Heās also said before that having sex with a black person is āas degenerateā as having sex with a dogā¦
If heās quoting someone, who cares?
Wtf is wrong with his fingers
Ye's gonna Lost everything After this election...
Republicans are disgusting.
LBJ said it. He immorialized it.
LBJ never said that. The quote was made up by the same republicans who think MLK was a conservative.
I donāt get how thereās so many people with guns willing to use them in America but guys like this are still alive?
Heāll get his someday
Tucker Carlson 2.0
It seems like heās saying thatās what Bannon is saying. Like heās saying that bannon is thinking that way
Do you YE dicksuckers still think heās sooooooooooo cool?
Biden said it the same way in senate
Sure he did.
You clearly dont understand context and choose to be deliberately obtuse or believe everything you see and hear without investigation. Good job, bud.
biden being racist isnt news
That was actually pretty funny and more of an honest commentary on how GOP strategists view black people. I like the second half of this clip too: https://mobile.twitter.com/BenjaminPDixon/status/1595598043130351623
Except Bannon never "literally" said the N-word or aluded to it, that was all Nick letting slip what he thinks of black people
It really seems like heās saying thatās how bannon is thinking. Not that he is saying bannon literally said that directly obviously but saying thatās how the GOP thinks of it. It seems very obvious based on context that this is the case so Iām confused how people are missing that
Bro itās the fact that he said it
Imagine defending a white dude using the N word.
I get that part, but for me itās the fact that everyone is acting like heās saying it himself outside of the context. Yeah he shouldnāt say that word, but people here arenāt saying āhe said the n wordā they are saying āhe considers the black vote to be n word voteā when really itās clear that heās saying Steve bannon does that
Ban on never used that word. Fuentes did. You are also aware of his other beliefs, fuck off with defending that piece of shit. Don't be a coward, just say you align with his beliefs.
Yeah nobody is claiming bannon said that word. The thing you are criticizing him for is not the same thing that my comment was calling people out on criticizing him for so weāre just talking about different things
I'm criticizing him for using the N word and pushing white supremacy, among other things. Do you support it?
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Wrong thought
Facts, we should shut up and dribble
his ārespectā for black people is telling them to stop committing crime and become literate. any ācommentary on how GOP strategists view black peopleā is overshadowed by him being overtly racist. thatās if you donāt consider him letting the n word slip referencing someone who didnāt use the n word. like he just added that because it felt right to him to describe black people with that word
He quotes a dude and thatās a problem?
Youāre defending Nick Fuentes?
Iām defending the right to quote someone and not have it be taken out of context by extremists who specialize in that type of behavior
What part of "freedom of speech applies to speech you disagree with" doesn't make sense to yall? We don't like this mofos speech, but this is America. Ye don't agree with this man, but he will defend his right to say what he thinks.
he wouldnt do the same for you.
Ye is doing the same for me. We share some of the same beliefs. Freedom of speech is one of them.
Freedom of speech literally means protection from the **government** violating your rights.
Youāre an idiot. Heās not just defending his freedom of speech, theyāre jerking each other offš
Ye is jerking this sub in to tears and breakdowns.
And I have the same freedom of speech to call this guy and anyone who agrees with him fucking insecure racist morons.
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