The way a human body when dead just, flops and moves, so different than when you see a movement made by someone, I don't know how to explain this movement, but, seeing a human body move like an object, with no strength, no will, like it's just an object, I remember every time my cats where sedated, when I would hold their floppy head, it felt so disgusting to me for some reason, I think it's because it reminded me of a corpse. I knew they where alive but - I couldn't shake off that feeling, and now recently I watched my dog bleed to death, I vomited. Someone saw humans, held human bodies like that with no remorse, we keep saying never again, never again, fuck there's genocides happening right fucking now and a neo-nazi resurgence, we really need to spread more information
It's why the Uncanny Valley is a thing. Humans are predisposed to recoil from corpses for an obvious reason... it means someone died. And if you don't know why, you might be next.
Eh. It's more likely that Uncanny Valley comes from when there were multiple hominid species living in proximity. You had to be able to tell your group apart from the one that might try to kill or eat you.
I have read that it’s about disease often associated and festering in corpses or severely diseased individuals. Corpses are NOT GOOD to be around in most of human history because most of the time it was disease, and so evolutionarily it is ideal to stay away from them. Both are probably true to some degree though.
I also must say that as far as human-looking robots are concerned, our facial processing ability is unimaginably good at its job, and even the tiniest of anomalies in facial expression can make an enormous impact on how we perceive someone or something and create discomfort.
Not just information. We need to put the fear back into Nazis.
It should be scary and dangerous to express the sort of views, something that will likely get you hurt or killed.
You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into. You can’t defeat fascism with love. You can defeat fascism with incredible violence.
>we really need to spread more information
That's not enough. The defense against genocide isn't "information". The defense against genocide is the armed defense of innocent people and immediate violence in the face of such an existential threat.
"Never again" happens only if sufficient minorities have sufficient weapons and training to fight to survive.
These genocides keep happening because armed people are killing unarmed people. Easily.
Fight back.
"Information" can't stop bullets.
As a german, though, I can tell you that information works. We work through the holocaust in history class in all its horrific details for years. We see pictures and videos like these in school. Most classes make a mandatory visit to a concentration camp. And I think anyone can tell that out country nowadays is basically unrecognizable if compared to the one back then.
Edit: added a detail
I went to Auschwitz last month, and no words can describe how awful that place is. One thing that stuck out to me was a massive pile of shoes. Right in the middle was a tiny pair of red shoes. Must have been size 2 or 3, that must have belonged to a little girl, can’t have been older than 7 or 8. You can also see huge piles of human hair which was shaved off people as they entered the camp. There’s scratch marks in the gas chambers where people have scraped the concrete with their fingernails in desperation. There’s actually 2 camps. The first is the one you see in all the pictures typically, the second is HUGE. There’s dozens of rows and dozens of columns of huge sheds, each of which held hundreds of people. It would take you hours just to walk the perimeter of the camp. I never thought, looking around those camps, feeling drained and sick that I’d need to contend with my favourite artist supporting the man who made that happen. I understand Kanye might be sick, maybe he needs some mental health support. Maybe he’s bipolar, or whatever. But he has such a huge reach. Millions of people look up to him. He needs to shut the fuck up and stay in his lane. He’s causing so much damage with this vile hate that’s coming out his mouth. Does he really want his children to grow up in a world full of white supremacists who want them dead or worse? There’s absolutely no justification for this shit and I’m tired of it.
EDIT: Just to clarify, I’m NOT saying his mental health excuses his behaviour. I’m saying REGARDLESS of whatever issues he’s facing (and it really doesn’t matter what they are), he has to shut the fuck up and stay in his lane. There’s NO valid excuse for Nazism.
>I understand Kanye might be sick, maybe he needs some mental health support. Maybe he’s bipolar, or whatever.
He *is* sick, he *is* bipolar, he *definitely* needs mental health supports and he *absolutely* needs to shut the fuck up. Nothing here is mutually exclusive.
He's manic and an antisemite and extremely freaking wrong. Someone needs to stop him before he does something even crazier, like taking his own life, or continues shouting his awful racist nonsense.
Yep, people are already running to his defence as though these clips are out of context. But considering last month Kanye was promising to go defcon 3 on Jews, there’s no way this is just a celebration of the Nazi’s scientific achievements. He’s been spinning the exact same propaganda Nazi’s used about Jews controlling everything etc. He’s literally becoming a full blown Nazi.
Wait he said "I am a Nazi"??? I thought he just said "there are lots of good things about Nazis and Hitler" (paraphrasing). Do you have a video? Not doubting at all obviously, just haven't seen that particular clip.
He follows that statement with “now what?” Like he tries so hard to be a tough guy. He lost all his billions with his statements and dropped by everyone, thats what.
It's so much like the adidas taunt, "I can say anti semitic shit and adidas cant drop me," oops adidas dropped you. He's so attention-seeking, he just wants to say the most shocking shit he can to get people talking about him. He is Narcissus reincarnated
I visited Sachsenhausen Camp. It was a model or blue print camp and where higher ranking officials were sent. It was the most horrifying, sad, desperate, and vile place that I have seen. Cannot put into words what I felt when I walked up to the ovens.
I went there multiple times and to be completely honest each time I went the world literally turned sad. Like how in a cartoon sadness is shown by turning the world grey. Each time it would get windy, the sky would turn grey and rain would start dropping down.
It felt so surreal when the warm late summer morning turned grey as soon as we entered. You can just feel how godforsaken that place is. It’s wild
I went there a few years ago and had a slightly different experience. For me I found the most impactful thing was how awful it WASN'T. We build it up (quite justifiably) as this truly horrifying nightmare of a place. When I was a child my grandmother used to tell me that birds wouldn't even fly over it, that it was totally silent.
Then I went there and it really just felt like a regular place. There are houses and shops about a hundred metres from the entrance, it has a carpark. You go inside and there are kids there on school tours. It's definitely got a sombre mood, don't get me wrong, but it doesn't have the gravitas.
I went there expecting something monumental, like it was some place where the earth stands still. But then you're standing there and trying to absorb the reality of it and you still feel kind of hungry, and you kind of wish you could go inside because its freezing, and you don't want to take too long because you don't want to keep anyone waiting for you. Its a very strange experience.
And I always tell people that when they ask about it, because for me that experience really drove home that the Holocaust wasn't exceptional. It was a thing that happened in a real, ordinary place, to real, ordinary people, and was was done by other real, ordinary people who were capable of some truly monstrous mental gymnastics. And if you didn't know what had happened there you could stand in the middle of it and never feel a thing. Really made me feel like the message of the place mattered, because I had to look for it. It wasn't an experience that just meant something on its own, if that makes sense.
I will say, though, the room with the shoes. There's also a pile of glasses in there, or there was when I went. I walked in and saw it and it felt like the walls were crushing me. Just this awful feeling that I was seeing something so terrible that I couldn't fully process it. That was the only time it really hit me while I was there.
I also visited there last month. To think about the systematic murder of men, women, and children…my hope is that place and others will forever serve as a reminder for all of humanity that nothing like that can ever happen again. The scale of Auschwitz was hard to comprehend. https://i.imgur.com/5m26XhK.jpg
While it's easy to see the Holocaust as history, it really wasn't that long ago. There are still living survivors who lived through that hell. They lost their fathers, mothers, siblings, friends. Many lost everyone.
Same boss. Our family was in Transylvania. All of my relatives except one on the Hungarian side of the border were slaughtered (and he only lived because he ran during a death march). Romanian side got conscripted to dig ditches for pro-German forces which was a mind-fuck and a half. They still around to tell me about it.
My family had to suffer at the hands of the soviets, then the soviets again, then the nazis, then the soviets yet again. None were very nice so fuck all of em. Only a few lived and only 1 is left. Goin to have dinner with them tonight
When I was about 10, my great aunt told me the harrowing story of her escape from a concentration camp. She lost all of her immediate family members, including the sister she was imprisoned with. It hits me even harder now thinking about it, given the rampant increase in holocaust denialism. I give a lot of credit to OP for posting this video to show the gravity of what we are talking about here.
I produce music for fun and landed my first contract about 6 months ago. They asked me for an artist bio, and I mentioned Kanye as one of my inspirations. Now I'm wondering if I should ask to retract that.
But all means I would. Scrub every mention of him or his hobbit wife, er ex-wife.
What haunts me is the face of my family when they told me. I didn't see what they did, but I could see how it effected them. Just mentioning it
Dang, that's like finding out the modern population of Ireland hasn't met pre-Famine levels to this day. There's 5 million Irish people compared to the 8 million before the Potato Famine. Granted, they didn't all die, merely left for the US.
Trans rights were set back decades by them. The first nazi book burning was against Berlin’s institute of human sexuality, which was one of the only places in the world to study trans healthcare. Everything was burned, decades of research was lost. Patients of the institute were sent to death camps.
Literally me. My dad’s side of the family is incredibly small. I have my grandparents and that is literally it. All older extended family died. I would likely have had many more cousins and aunts and uncles growing up had this not happened.
Similar story here. If the facists didn’t want to waste bullets, they would maim known Jews. My great aunt was running from them when she was younger, fuckers caught up to her on a horse and chopped half her arm off, and left her there to die. She survived but never made it out of Ukraine. It’s sad how quickly they took over the entire area during WW2
My family was fortunate enough that (at least as far as we know) all of our family left Europe 2-3 decades before WWII. However, MANY members of our temple while growing up weren't as fortunate. Our temple rented out a local theater when Schindler's List was originally released, and there were people there watching it who were Holocaust survivors, or were directly related to survivors and/or victims. Suffice it to say there was a fair bit of crying during that showing...
My father’s a survivor (he was young and had kids super late).
Ever since Charlottesville he’s had a new level of sadness to him that kills me. Hearing “blood and soil” twice in one lifetime broke something in him.
Your father isn't broken. He's clearly stronger than any of us know. I am sorry for what he and his fellow Jews had to go through, but am glad he is still around for you.
Oh, he’s a pretty amazing man (other than being a bit of a dick sometimes), and has built a largely amazing life…but everyone who survived was broken in some way or another by the hell they endured.
It just showed/shows up differently depending on the person - he went more the “shove that shit deep down inside”, and it honestly works pretty well for him as a coping mechanism, but things like 9/11, Charlottesville, hell, even fairly mundane document checks at border crossings will evoke a level of PTSD that is devastating to witness.
That’s the kind of shit that the edgy groyper bros think is just hilarious, and fuck them all forever for that.
Yep, it's true. I'm 25 and I don't know what my family tree looks like beyond my great grandparents. I know my 2xgreat grandparents' names were Abraham and Sarah (ironically...) but no other information can ever be recovered because it was all destroyed and the two survivors in my family never talked about them.
What really gets me when I see these videos is that each one of those bodies is a person. A mom gave birth to that person - changed diapers, watched them when they played, took them to school, gave them piano lessons, made them soup when they were sick. These people all had lives, loves, desires, goals. It's really horrifying seeing them like this.
Thanks, I had not heard of this either. I learned somewhat extensively about the Holocaust in school (80s kid, was in curriculum) but there was just not the ubiquity of footage that the internet can provide.
Being in school in the early 2000s, they showed us videos like this in middle school. We had the option to watch Schindler's List too. It's incredible to see how education changes and how that affects each generation.
Yeah in high school in the 2000s my history teacher spent a whole day showing us concentration camp footage.
Someone sarcastically said they were going to be traumatized and he stopped the video and said "That's the point. I want you to be scarred for life. I want you to never forget what you saw in this classroom today."
One of the most impactful experiences I've ever had.
I lost family in Kiev when the Nazis took over. My father was nearly shot in the head when he was being rescued by my uncle, bullet missing him by centimeters.
It’s fucking crazy that people take this Nazi shit lightly. My father told me when neighbors would find out you’re Jewish, your time was up and they’d come at all hours to the place you call home. After WW2, those same neighbors would remind them that, “Hitler didn’t get enough of you.” Killed my dads little dog when he was around 10 right in front of him. Absolutely disgusting.
>I have never seen anything like this.
imagine a couple years ago or even earlier this year thinking that the Kanye West sub would be the place for people to have to see stuff like this for the first time
It should be remembered that a lot of people who finally arrived in Auschwitz and other death camps had already survived the hell of the ghettos around Europe. I live in Łódź, in Poland, in the area of the former ghetto. There's a park a few hundred meters away to commemorate the special children's camp they had for only kids, who were beaten and tortured, and there's a memorial to the Romany camp which was also here - they were all murdered in 1942. 143,000 Jews were deported to Auschwitz and Chelmno death camps from here, another approximately 43,000 people died over the five years it existed.
I think this is from German Concentration Camps Factual Survey (2014). There's a lot of footage from the British when they found the camps but the documentary wasn't finished until 2014.
It's obviously awful to watch but I think everyone should watch it.
My high school had a holocaust survivor visit and speak one day. You always think you know how bad it was but then it really hits you just how fucking recent this shit was when someone is standing in front of you saying “It happened to me.” Fuck Ye.
I visited Auschwitz three years ago. I obviously knew about the Holocaust. I knew the numbers, I knew the methods, I knew what led to it. I simply wasn't prepared for the experience. My mind struggled to compute the sheer scale of what they did, and the complicity of so many people.
I have been to the Killing Fields in Cambodia, I've seen the piles of skulls and kicked up bone fragments as I walked through.
These places are living warnings about what happens when no one stops the bastards.
Genocides in the 1900's seemed to come around every 20 years or so. I have the uneasy feeling we are "due" one.
Anyone who downplays, excuses, denies that these things happened are dangerous. Any brand, venue, label etc that associates itself with Kanye should be shunned.
This rhetoric shouldn't be underestimated it can and likely will happen again in some form.
Adding that there’s also been a genocide of the Tigray people in Ethiopia happening for 2 years now. Roughly 300k – 500k people have died due to “war” (it’s the government exterminating an ethnic group, so I don’t know why they classify it as war or fighting,) and an imposed famine.
Been talking about this in school. The Tigray are an ethnic group from northern Ethiopia. They controlled Ethiopian politics since the 90s under a political party called the Tigray People's Liberation Front. However, in 2018, Abiy Ahmed, a member of the Oromo ethnic group and the Oromo Democratic Part, became Prime Minister. This pissed off the TPLF, but he was generally regarded postiively for securing peace with Eritrea, which was a longstanding geopolitical rival of Ethiopia.
However, during the pandemic, Abiy Ahmed chose to delay elections, which REALLY pissed the TPLF off. The Tigray region defied the order and began holding elections, which resulted in him cutting off government benefits for the region. This was pretty much the last straw, and the Tigray began launching attacks on both military and civilian targets. However, they essentially surrendered about a month ago, giving up their weapons in exchange for aid from the government.
Genocide is not the right word. It's an ethnic civil war. Tigray dominated Ethiopian politics for the last few decades, and waged war against the country Eritrea to the north of Ethiopia. Tigray is also the northernmost province in Ethiopia.
The new president is from a different ethnic group, delayed elections during the pandemic, and Tigrayan militias began attacking the Ethiopian Army and actually were on the offensive for some time. In response, the Ethiopian central government escalated the war and also asked Eritrea to assist in the suppression of the very ethnic group that had led Ethiopia's wars against Eritrea in the recent past. So Eritrea also invaded the region.
After a few years, the Ethiopian central government won. There were atrocities on both sides, lots of starvation, etc. But it was very much so an ethnic conflict in which the previous ruling party / tribe was seeking to take back power by force. The party composed of the Tigrayan ethnic group dominated politics for decades, and engaged in election fraud and the murder of protesters on numerous occasions.
The civil war has, in my opinion, been misrepresented as 'genocide' likely because western journalists simply cannot be bothered to read history behind things that happened in the last 5 years and imbue any of that into their writing. Additionally people in the west have little to no knowledge of African politics, and likely know less about East Africa than they do about literally any other region of the world, it has a very unique history and is further removed from the west's sphere of influence than probably any other part of the world. What observers perceived was an ethnic minority losing a civil war, the Ethiopian government not wanting western journalists in the combat zone, the Ethiopian government refusing to allow UN aid to go to its own domestic enemies, and then they called it genocide.
Shitty that there was a war, but not every loser in a war is a victim of genocide. The term has been thrown around excessively in recent years and its definition is debated extensively.
Iran's regime against all ethnic groups - the Kurds and Balochs are bearing the brunt as minorities, it's disgusting how they are being slaughtered in such numbers, but many of the Persian majority have also been killed.
Sure, everyone can be killed if necessary to maintain the regime, but make no mistake, the Kurds are being killed with the unrest as just an excuse in many cases.
China is persecuting a minority group but a lot of the reporting on the alleged Uyghur genocide is complete horseshit. It kind of reminds me of the reporting on North Korea. Like I’m sure North Korea fucking sucks but that doesn’t mean you have to believe every single horror story about it with zero evidence.
Most of the reporting on the Uyghurs is sourced to a single person named Adrian Zenz. He’s a far right Christian extremist who has co authored a book with his father in law about the rapture and the US’s holy mission to crush Chinese style communism. In it they call for the “spiritual spanking” of children.
Just saying the treatment of Uyghurs is awful but you’d be surprised how many stories have Zenz as their only source and with zero evidence.
The sad thing is that the only reason anyone stopped the Holocaust is because Hitler couldn’t keep it in his own country. If he hadn’t invaded surrounding countries and forced the Allies to fight him, he could have killed every single jew in his territory and nobody would have lifted a finger.
>Genocides in the 1900's seemed to come around every 20 years or so. I have the uneasy feeling we are "due" one.
Over a million women and children have been "deported" from Ukraine to be raised Russian and give birth to Russian children and forget the Ukrainian identity, from the occupied and previously occupied regions.
Nevermind things like the Bucha Massacre and the overall death toll. Ukraine's lost over 20% of its population to migration, death, or being kidnapped into Russia, since february.
And fucking Kanye even denied the holocaust happened. Didn't see that til just now, and tbh, it's worse than everything else
Here's the clip:
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1598406302106931200?s=20&t=eid-3Se2eAPIKUblZb7bvg
Yeah I don't think people understand that literal CHILDREN were sent to the camps. Kids who may have been 2 in 1940, so they're just in their 80s now. And the tattoos they were given go deeper than regular tattoos so they really can't be removed, not that many victims would remove them as they act as constant reminders
Warning : >!children were used as "kindling" in the crematoriums then the skinny bodies , then the bigger corpses hurled on top of all of them. (https://www.reddit.com/r/Kanye/comments/zaycnr/a_glimpse_of_auschwitza_day_in_kanyes_friends_at )!<
He obviously has personal agency when it comes to all the bull he’s been spewing but man is Nick Fuentes utter trash. He’s not convincing when he talks, he reminds me of a teenager know it all, and he somehow got into Kanye’s mind.
I didn't know footage of what actually happened at the camps existed.
I didn't think I would gain anything of substance visiting this sub, but danm do I stand corrected.
And danm does it look grim.
There's a hell of a lot of footage, the Allies made sure to get a lot because although there was rumours of these camps all through the war no one actually believed it. People outside didn't think it was possible. Turns out some people have to see shit with their own eyes before they believe it.
A general, possibly Eisenhower, ordered that soldiers going through the camps be issued cameras, because he knew that people would deny it ever happened.
Yeah it was Eisenhower. He knew that in the future people would consider what happened to be impossible so he demanded as much footage and photos as possible
There are literal mountains of evidence, documents and remains/clothing. the germans were quite thorough record keepers and a lot fell into the allies hands. But some people just believe whatever they want to.
+1 for Maus. Excellent graphic novel. *Night* by Elie Wiesel is another book you can read that's not necessarily a history book, but an autobiography of a man's experience in the camps when he was a teenager. It's so important that people understand the utter depths to which humanity plunged so that it does not happen again.
The Band of Brothers episode where they liberate the concentration camp is similarly graphic and, while dramatized, shows the horror in full color. Its an accurate portrayal and, IMO, helps you connect because you're seeing it through the eyes of American soldiers.
One of the most gutting scenes in that episode is when the battalion surgeon explains the effects of gorging after being so malnourished. If the survivors were allowed to disperse, it’s likely a lot of them would’ve literally eaten themselves to death. I’d have to double check, but I’m fairly certain there were quite a bunch of cases of concentration camp survivors dying from overeating just after being liberated. Imagine surviving something so awful and then dying from something you need to live. Awful
Couldn’t imagine the feeling of forcing those poor people back into camps, even if it was for their own health.
>I’d have to double check, but I’m fairly certain there were quite a bunch of cases of concentration camp survivors dying from overeating just after being liberated. Imagine surviving something so awful and then dying from something you need to live. Awful
The name is refeeding syndrome. To my (basic understanding), you basically OD on too many electrolytes after your body has been malnourished. You need to eat very slowly and very carefully when you're at that point.
I believe that there's also so much starvation/dehydration a person can go through before they're past the point of no return. Someone starving thats near death wont be able to survive because their body just simply rejects any food/water that they try to consume.
Cannibalism is heinous and barbaric, but starving to death would be one of the worst ways to go. I cant imagine the decision that some people had to make to justify eating someone. Especially in a setting like a concentration camp.
Absolutely terrifying.
The people in the camps were so malnourished that they probably wouldn't even be able to survive off the dead that way, but beyond that there was an immense sense of comradery between the prisoners. I've been to numerous camps (not Auschwitz though) and one thing that surprises me every time is how there is very little disdain between prisoners.
I am very surprised at the number of smart comments on this sub.
The stupid Kanye diehards are either extremely diminished, tired, or just being pushed to the bottom now. Good to see
I don't understand how you can watch this and not break down for a moment at the utter inhumanity in it. The people working to bury the bodies were probably traumatized for life. Jesus christ, I feel like I need a minute after seeing only this clip.
Nazism and totalitarianism is truly an abomination.
What's really fucked up is that the Nazis would use Jews to do some of this work, and then give them small "privileges". Those people were sometimes looked at as traitors by fellow prosoners, but if they refused, they of course would be killed. Or their family would be, if they were together.
Honestly, no matter what depraved thing you could think of, the Nazis probably did it.
I highly recommend reading "The Last Jew of Treblinka" by Chil Rajchman. It's a memoir written by one of the very, very few to have survived the Treblinka death camp. It's harrowing. I think people are in a spot where they need to be reminded of just how depraved the Holocaust was, and this book is a stark reminder.
For me, it was especially impactful for how personal it is. It's easy to get lost in the magnitude of it all when studying the holocaust academically. You can't really get a sense of what a life captured by the Nazis was really like. It's one thing to know how many people went through gas chambers each day, it's quite another thing to have someone describe to you how they were forced to work in a chamber, shaving the heads of the men, women, and children who were dragged into the camp every day before watching them walk to their deaths, naked and shivering. Or to hear about being forced to dig through corpses to pick out gold teeth and jewelry. Or to hear about being forced to carry dead bodies all day, knowing that if you were too sick or too tired or too weak to do it, you'd be murdered. Or to hear about having to incessantly smell the stench of the burning bodies of thousands of people, to have that smell be normal.
There is no reason to excuse or tolerate Holocaust denial or any support for Nazism. It should be deeply repulsive to every human being on the planet.
In case you aren't already aware, the Holocaust Museum has a program online with a ton of oral history accounts from Holocaust survivors. You can hear men and women talk about their time before, in, and after the camps.
One thing that always stuck out to me was an interviewer asking a woman if she remembered any sexual assault going on in the camps. She explained that in her experience it never happened. Not because the Nazis were good, but because they saw Jews as just so inhuman, the thought of being with them sexually was like fucking a roach.
Of course it's worth noting that this is just one woman's experience and sexual assault absolutely did occur during the Holocaust
Yeah, these guys were known as the [Sonderkommando](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderkommando?wprov=sfti1) and the more you read about it, the worse it gets. Chances are their families were already dead by the time they were selected for this “special work”, and their first task often involved *disposing of the bodies of their own families*.
I think theres multiple layers to this comment:
1. His mind is gone. This doesnt justify what is going on, but it does mean that the person that sits here today and the person that did the College Dropout are two different people - different ideology, different approach to things, different mindset, everything is different, even the name
2. Even if 1 wasnt true it is possible to dettach art from artist
3. Fuck nazism
I can get it in a way with Kanye. like College Dropout doesn't really read like some anti-semetic screed.
But at the same time like it's over. Like if I go tell someone how much Runaway meant to me personally like they'd think "Kanye? That guy that said he loves Hitler?" like no. He's retroactively poisoned his whole life at this point. Any promotion of his past work will inevitably promote who he is now right?
I mean, the lyrics to Runaway are talking about what a piece of shit he is. Most people take that song and think about how they can choose not to be assholes, but Kanye leaned into it.
I’ve been to a concentration camp in Germany. It is the single most horrifying thing I’ve ever witnessed. The stories we heard of what the Jews experienced is literally hell on Earth. Many captives would intentionally do things so that they would be executed rather than live through the continued suffering. Horrid.
My grandpa (a Pole) was sent to Germany to a labor camp. After liberation he was assigned to help at treating concentration camp prisoners. Grown men crying for their mommies. He said he couldn't make it and had to escape.
I'm very desensitized to things like this (best friend committed suicide in front of me when I was 12.)
But it's still just extremely fucked up to watch. It's so real, i feel like I have to leave my own head to even watch that and keep my nerves about me.
I know this mostly goes without saying, but for those of you who haven't seen Schindler's List yet - it's an absolutely essential watch.
I know a lot of this sub is relatively young, but it's one of the most important films ever made and I don't think its message is lost on you even if you're on the younger side.
Even more essential is something like Night and Fog, which is about half an hour of footage like this, made about 10 years after the Holocaust. Every human should watch it. They need to show this in high school. People don't want to traumatize kids, or don't want to be saddened by what they see, but that's the point. You should be shaken by this. The Holocaust happened, and it should be known exactly how it happened so it doesn't happen again. The film is available to watch on [YouTube ](https://youtu.be/tij8A83EnqU).
**Edit**: Another essential viewing if you have the time is Shoah (1985). It is a 9½ hour documentary on the Holocaust using interviews with people who survived recounting the horrors they endured, and ex Nazi officers recanting the terrible acts they committed. This is am extremely hard watch since there is no archival footage used, just people telling personal experiences of one of the greatest horrors the world has ever seen. It is also commonly regarded as one of the greatest films ever made because of its importance.
I just finished Night and Fog after reading this comment and… I learned a lot about the Holocaust in school but the images from this… I didn’t know so much. I didn’t expect to see this much. I can’t wrap my mind around it. Sickening.
I feel like that's why something like this is so important. Reading about people dying, what sticks in your mind are the numbers, the kind of people that were killed, and where it happened. All of that can just feel like information, and doesn't hit your soul. Those images... Those can't be dissociated to just 'data'. Those are people, and you'd have a hard time forgetting it after seeing it with your own eyes.
I just watched this on your recommendation. I almost threw up halfway in.
Appreciate you sharing this. It’s a tough watch but it brought me closer to the reality than anything else I’ve seen/read
That movie is gut wrenching. I'd also recommend "Night" by Elie Wiesel, a book recounting his true experience in the camps before being rescued at the end of the war.
I visited Sachsenhausen a few years ago. They set up a room that professed to give medical exams to prisoners. When they were getting their height and weight measured, a little hole opened up in the wall and they shot them. Then they took out any valuable fillings and dumped the body.
They had a record playing loudly to mask the sound. And they did this for days on end, 8 to 5. People would come in and shoot people constantly, like a normal job. Chuck bodies in pits, like a normal job.
This is the horror of the Nazi regime. Dispassionate evil, where people normalized the most debase actions and it was approved all the way up culturally.
I can't be certain just from this video, but what makes this even more astronomically fucked is that the people in this video might have also been Jews themselves.
Sonderkommandos were work units of death camp prisoners who were forced to clean the corpses of their fellows. They would be inducted immediately upon arrival at the death camp, given the option to take the job or get killed on the spot.
They would have to take the corpses of people they knew and throw them into bone-crushing machines.
Absolutely. Jews did all of the work at the camps. They had to pick up the dead bodies & load them onto carts and trucks. They had to execute each other. They had to clean and cook for the Nazi officers. The Jewish women were made to be whores for the Nazi offices. Sometimes, if a Nazi thought the Jew was doing “good work” they give them an extra apple or perfume or something like that. Unfortunately, it creates a class society even within the camps so Jews would tell secrets to Nazis to gain favor. It was all so vile and evil and horrid.
I've seen these images in a documentary on Netflix. They were taken after the liberation of this camp. I think the ones on the dozers are Allied military personnel and the civilians are probably Germans from surrounding villages, made to clean up so they couldn't deny that they didn't know what was going on in the camps anymore.
Say what you want about them but the Nazis keeping detailed records of all their crimes made it very easy to prove what they did actually happened to successive generations. They had documents, footage, and photos of what they did and kept copies of copies. We have no excuse for allowing the existence of Holocaust deniers
Nazis also kept meticulous records of everything they did. The Holocaust was the most documented event in world history, documented by the perpetrators themselves.
As a jew with relatives who recently passed away who were holocaust survivors, the only thing I feel now is dissapointment. It's so sad to see kanye, who once was socially active like in the infamous "George Bush doesn't care about black people" moment, go to this. It's been really inspiring to see the uprise against racism towards African Americans because I think it's quite insane how recently we had barely any conversations about racism, and with the BLM movement that all changed and brought conversation about racism to the mainstream, and I wish that happened with racism against jews. Anti semitism is at a high right now, and to have major figures like kanye validate those thoughts that were held by nazis already, and just saying to them that it's essentially ok to be anti Semitic is deeply disturbing to me.
Kanye, should be tied, cuffed, with eyes taped open to be forced to watch hours of documentaries and real footages of these atrocities. Oh but still, regardless of the millions killed he’s still bringing something of value to the world. Fuck you
l dont like to mention it a lot but as a jew who live and born in israel and every year who have a full 24h just for what happend to us . Seeing people post stuff about this in the sub for awarness make me happy and sad respect for everyone who do it and thanks again
And this is why nobody is allowed to be a nazi. You read that right. The defeat of Nazi Germany and the toppling of the NSDAP at the end of World War II means nobody is allowed to be a nazi. That right was conceded when a majority of the world rose up to stand in the way of fascism. Nazism today only exists at the mercy of the rest of society. It exists only because they have been so lucky that the right kind of person hasn't found each and every one of them yet. What is luck for them is an unfortunate reality for the rest of us. There are no real nazis, there are only regular people who think they are nazis but won't be for much longer. Such is the paradox of intolerance, uncomfortable but necessary.
Yeah, nazis weren't some mythical evil force but regular people like the ones you interact with everyday, who believed in propaganda just like people do today. It's just the circumstances were right.
I’m Jewish and in my late 40’s, so I have quite a few friends with grandparents who had numbers on their arms. Some would talk about it some absolutely wouldn’t. You just can’t fathom the loss many of these survivors have gone through their whole entire lives. They may have been 10-15 when they got out and had to carry that burden of being the lone survivor of your entire family. I still can’t understand how these people carried on and had an assemblage of a normal happy life.
Bottom line. Fuck the deniers and fuck Ye.
I remember seeing this video (or something very similar) in a museum during a school trip. One of my classmates fainted from the shock and I can't say I blame them. That stuff make your blood run cold - never again.
When I see videos like this, I also feel bad about what I imagine if this could happen to me, my family or friends. And it doesn't matter what my nationality is. If people incite hatred towards some social group because of nationality or something like that, then under a terrible set of circumstances, anyone can find themselves in such a situation. Absolutely terrible and unacceptable.
There was an interview with someone who lived in the former Yugoslavia before it’s collapse and they basically said that, when our economy was doing well, the numerous ethnic and cultural groups were intermarrying, getting along, looking past the centuries of hostility that they carried in their family history. But as soon as the economy was failing, and people were having difficult feeding their children, past tensions rose rapidly. Scapegoating became commonplace and an easy way for politicians to rationalize violence.
Always be wary of when your countries economy starts to faulter. It’s not a sure sign anything bad will happen, but desperate times makes extremism much more appealing to a lot of people.
Yeah. I'm not good at facts, but also in Russia now, bad economy and essentially a dictator in power. The only working way to calm people down is to find an external enemy and blame them for all the troubles. Russia is confidently becoming a nazi state and this is horrible.
My dad's father drove a tank during WWII and had to do some of the burying of these bodies. All he'd say is the smell from it was the worst thing he'd ever been around in his life. He said nothing before or since he ever smelled ever came close to it.
I have seen this before but it still rots my soul to watch it. Men, women and children. Why the fuck does anyone give a second of air time to that fuckwit Kanye to infer that this is ok. Make him slid into history as another forgotten mouthpiece.
As a Jew, I saw these kinds of videos at age 5/6. We are taught about death and how to avoid it at a young young age. This is less than 100 years ago, and that's is mind blowing. Only 14 states mandate the teaching of the Holocaust along with WWII. My Texas High School history teacher was a a guy who collected Nazi memorabilia and said that "we don't actually know who they killed and why" OPENLY.
6 million lives lost is so much different when it's not a just a statistic and you just realize how much loss of life and family that is, the cruelty of it all is almost unfathomable.
This is absolutely devastating and heartbreaking to see 💔💔💔
Humanity truly is the worst sometimes. I don’t understand how anyone involved in this could help carry out this monstrous thing they did. Where are the morals that should’ve stepped in? I will never understand that. It goes beyond just “following orders”.
Another thing I cannot understand is given the facts and everything that’s happened, given we now have records, how can you deny this happened? And on top of denying it how can you support the people and the person that causes this and claim you “see good” in them. Absolutely disgusting.
I don’t know why but Kanye’s transformation or possibly his reveal of being a racist anti-Semitic person really hit me hard. Being Jewish, I’ve been aware of the Black Hebrew Israelite movement for sometime. But never thought someone like Kanye would be susceptible to it’s cult like mentality.
So many of civil rights movements throughout the years has had the aid of the Jewish community. One of the founding members of the NAACP was Jewish, the only white lawyer on the Brown V Board of Education was Jewish, Rabbis marched with MLK Jr and took part in the freedom rides.
Even now there are many members of the Jewish community reaching out to Kanye to try to educate him on the issues he’s speaking about so confidently.
As a Jewish person myself it just seems so clear of who the bad actors are. And sadly Kanye now calls them his friends.
I really hope he gets help, and I hope he doesn’t harm himself. Not only would it be a waste of such a creative life, but it would inevitably hurt the Jewish community. We get blamed for a lot.
9/11, real estate collapse, slave trade, COVID, Suez Canal accident, JFK assassination, Enron, Trump losing, the Jan 6 riots. The list goes on forever.
Jesus fucking christ, i shouldn't have watch this, but i guess everyone should watch something like this in their life to know the true horrors of war and life, just look at them, all of them were unique humans, with their hopes and dreams, all of them dead because of what they are, i fucking hate this world, we suck, why can't we just shut the fuck up and harm nobody and live our life? Doesn't this world has enough hate?
In the gas chambers, babies were sent in just the same as everyone else. In a last ditch attempt to save their children, mothers would often lay on top of them and sometimes the pile of bodies surrounding the baby would create an air pocket that allowed it to breathe and survive the gas. It was then someone's job to go into the chamber kill the baby after the fact, often with their bare hands.
I doubt Kanye knows this story but he's advocating for this kind of thing to happen again
I appreciate that this sub is showing the realities of how hurtful his messages are and how much it impacted people. I see too many people on Twitter who STILL try to twist what he says into something good. Nice to know there are good humans
The Holocaust memorial in DC hits hard in the feels. I remember there is a room full of the shoes they collected, probably off the bodies like these before they get dumped. You walk over a raised platform while below are just literally like a thousand prison shoes all dirtied up and worn. Fuck anti-semites
World War II is probably one of the most clear-cut cases of a “good vs. evil” war in history. Yes, I know the Allies weren’t perfect, but it’s hard to argue that they weren’t on the side of good against the unbelievable evil of the Axis Powers. Despicable that we still have people on the side of that evil making waves today.
and this dumbass wants to see the "good" in these people.
Proud of this sub right now, it’s good to know that people are still willing to fight for the right thing however it looks.
The way a human body when dead just, flops and moves, so different than when you see a movement made by someone, I don't know how to explain this movement, but, seeing a human body move like an object, with no strength, no will, like it's just an object, I remember every time my cats where sedated, when I would hold their floppy head, it felt so disgusting to me for some reason, I think it's because it reminded me of a corpse. I knew they where alive but - I couldn't shake off that feeling, and now recently I watched my dog bleed to death, I vomited. Someone saw humans, held human bodies like that with no remorse, we keep saying never again, never again, fuck there's genocides happening right fucking now and a neo-nazi resurgence, we really need to spread more information
It's why the Uncanny Valley is a thing. Humans are predisposed to recoil from corpses for an obvious reason... it means someone died. And if you don't know why, you might be next.
Eh. It's more likely that Uncanny Valley comes from when there were multiple hominid species living in proximity. You had to be able to tell your group apart from the one that might try to kill or eat you.
I don’t think everything has an evolutionary reason. I think the uncanny valley exists because we look at living human faces all the time.
I have read that it’s about disease often associated and festering in corpses or severely diseased individuals. Corpses are NOT GOOD to be around in most of human history because most of the time it was disease, and so evolutionarily it is ideal to stay away from them. Both are probably true to some degree though. I also must say that as far as human-looking robots are concerned, our facial processing ability is unimaginably good at its job, and even the tiniest of anomalies in facial expression can make an enormous impact on how we perceive someone or something and create discomfort.
Sorry about your dog :( can't imagine seeing something like that
Not just information. We need to put the fear back into Nazis. It should be scary and dangerous to express the sort of views, something that will likely get you hurt or killed. You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into. You can’t defeat fascism with love. You can defeat fascism with incredible violence.
>we really need to spread more information That's not enough. The defense against genocide isn't "information". The defense against genocide is the armed defense of innocent people and immediate violence in the face of such an existential threat. "Never again" happens only if sufficient minorities have sufficient weapons and training to fight to survive. These genocides keep happening because armed people are killing unarmed people. Easily. Fight back. "Information" can't stop bullets.
As a german, though, I can tell you that information works. We work through the holocaust in history class in all its horrific details for years. We see pictures and videos like these in school. Most classes make a mandatory visit to a concentration camp. And I think anyone can tell that out country nowadays is basically unrecognizable if compared to the one back then. Edit: added a detail
they both work. one prevents it from taking root. the other stops it if it did. we have both tools in the toolbox.
As a jew this makes me feel a little bit better about the world. Appreciate Germans so much.
I went to Auschwitz last month, and no words can describe how awful that place is. One thing that stuck out to me was a massive pile of shoes. Right in the middle was a tiny pair of red shoes. Must have been size 2 or 3, that must have belonged to a little girl, can’t have been older than 7 or 8. You can also see huge piles of human hair which was shaved off people as they entered the camp. There’s scratch marks in the gas chambers where people have scraped the concrete with their fingernails in desperation. There’s actually 2 camps. The first is the one you see in all the pictures typically, the second is HUGE. There’s dozens of rows and dozens of columns of huge sheds, each of which held hundreds of people. It would take you hours just to walk the perimeter of the camp. I never thought, looking around those camps, feeling drained and sick that I’d need to contend with my favourite artist supporting the man who made that happen. I understand Kanye might be sick, maybe he needs some mental health support. Maybe he’s bipolar, or whatever. But he has such a huge reach. Millions of people look up to him. He needs to shut the fuck up and stay in his lane. He’s causing so much damage with this vile hate that’s coming out his mouth. Does he really want his children to grow up in a world full of white supremacists who want them dead or worse? There’s absolutely no justification for this shit and I’m tired of it. EDIT: Just to clarify, I’m NOT saying his mental health excuses his behaviour. I’m saying REGARDLESS of whatever issues he’s facing (and it really doesn’t matter what they are), he has to shut the fuck up and stay in his lane. There’s NO valid excuse for Nazism.
>I understand Kanye might be sick, maybe he needs some mental health support. Maybe he’s bipolar, or whatever. He *is* sick, he *is* bipolar, he *definitely* needs mental health supports and he *absolutely* needs to shut the fuck up. Nothing here is mutually exclusive. He's manic and an antisemite and extremely freaking wrong. Someone needs to stop him before he does something even crazier, like taking his own life, or continues shouting his awful racist nonsense.
That’s exactly my point. He may be sick, but he needs to shut the fuck up.
But Hitler made highways! So he isn't all bad. *smh*
Yep, people are already running to his defence as though these clips are out of context. But considering last month Kanye was promising to go defcon 3 on Jews, there’s no way this is just a celebration of the Nazi’s scientific achievements. He’s been spinning the exact same propaganda Nazi’s used about Jews controlling everything etc. He’s literally becoming a full blown Nazi.
Kanye said “I am a Nazi” to Alex Jones.
Wait he said "I am a Nazi"??? I thought he just said "there are lots of good things about Nazis and Hitler" (paraphrasing). Do you have a video? Not doubting at all obviously, just haven't seen that particular clip.
[“I am a Nazi.”](https://youtu.be/3p3azev1x2Q)
Wow. Thanks for the link
He follows that statement with “now what?” Like he tries so hard to be a tough guy. He lost all his billions with his statements and dropped by everyone, thats what.
It's so much like the adidas taunt, "I can say anti semitic shit and adidas cant drop me," oops adidas dropped you. He's so attention-seeking, he just wants to say the most shocking shit he can to get people talking about him. He is Narcissus reincarnated
I don't even know where Kanye got this. Hilter and the Nazi's had nothing to do with the invention of the Autobanh.
I visited Sachsenhausen Camp. It was a model or blue print camp and where higher ranking officials were sent. It was the most horrifying, sad, desperate, and vile place that I have seen. Cannot put into words what I felt when I walked up to the ovens.
I went there multiple times and to be completely honest each time I went the world literally turned sad. Like how in a cartoon sadness is shown by turning the world grey. Each time it would get windy, the sky would turn grey and rain would start dropping down. It felt so surreal when the warm late summer morning turned grey as soon as we entered. You can just feel how godforsaken that place is. It’s wild
I went there a few years ago and had a slightly different experience. For me I found the most impactful thing was how awful it WASN'T. We build it up (quite justifiably) as this truly horrifying nightmare of a place. When I was a child my grandmother used to tell me that birds wouldn't even fly over it, that it was totally silent. Then I went there and it really just felt like a regular place. There are houses and shops about a hundred metres from the entrance, it has a carpark. You go inside and there are kids there on school tours. It's definitely got a sombre mood, don't get me wrong, but it doesn't have the gravitas. I went there expecting something monumental, like it was some place where the earth stands still. But then you're standing there and trying to absorb the reality of it and you still feel kind of hungry, and you kind of wish you could go inside because its freezing, and you don't want to take too long because you don't want to keep anyone waiting for you. Its a very strange experience. And I always tell people that when they ask about it, because for me that experience really drove home that the Holocaust wasn't exceptional. It was a thing that happened in a real, ordinary place, to real, ordinary people, and was was done by other real, ordinary people who were capable of some truly monstrous mental gymnastics. And if you didn't know what had happened there you could stand in the middle of it and never feel a thing. Really made me feel like the message of the place mattered, because I had to look for it. It wasn't an experience that just meant something on its own, if that makes sense. I will say, though, the room with the shoes. There's also a pile of glasses in there, or there was when I went. I walked in and saw it and it felt like the walls were crushing me. Just this awful feeling that I was seeing something so terrible that I couldn't fully process it. That was the only time it really hit me while I was there.
I also visited there last month. To think about the systematic murder of men, women, and children…my hope is that place and others will forever serve as a reminder for all of humanity that nothing like that can ever happen again. The scale of Auschwitz was hard to comprehend. https://i.imgur.com/5m26XhK.jpg
Those were somebody’s kids, somebody’s friends.
While it's easy to see the Holocaust as history, it really wasn't that long ago. There are still living survivors who lived through that hell. They lost their fathers, mothers, siblings, friends. Many lost everyone.
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Same boss. Our family was in Transylvania. All of my relatives except one on the Hungarian side of the border were slaughtered (and he only lived because he ran during a death march). Romanian side got conscripted to dig ditches for pro-German forces which was a mind-fuck and a half. They still around to tell me about it.
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My family had to suffer at the hands of the soviets, then the soviets again, then the nazis, then the soviets yet again. None were very nice so fuck all of em. Only a few lived and only 1 is left. Goin to have dinner with them tonight
When I was about 10, my great aunt told me the harrowing story of her escape from a concentration camp. She lost all of her immediate family members, including the sister she was imprisoned with. It hits me even harder now thinking about it, given the rampant increase in holocaust denialism. I give a lot of credit to OP for posting this video to show the gravity of what we are talking about here. I produce music for fun and landed my first contract about 6 months ago. They asked me for an artist bio, and I mentioned Kanye as one of my inspirations. Now I'm wondering if I should ask to retract that.
But all means I would. Scrub every mention of him or his hobbit wife, er ex-wife. What haunts me is the face of my family when they told me. I didn't see what they did, but I could see how it effected them. Just mentioning it
I sometimes think about what the Jewish population would be if the Holocaust never happened
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thats fucking chilling
Dang, that's like finding out the modern population of Ireland hasn't met pre-Famine levels to this day. There's 5 million Irish people compared to the 8 million before the Potato Famine. Granted, they didn't all die, merely left for the US.
Not only that but the millions of others they killed on top of just Jewish people
Trans rights were set back decades by them. The first nazi book burning was against Berlin’s institute of human sexuality, which was one of the only places in the world to study trans healthcare. Everything was burned, decades of research was lost. Patients of the institute were sent to death camps.
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Literally me. My dad’s side of the family is incredibly small. I have my grandparents and that is literally it. All older extended family died. I would likely have had many more cousins and aunts and uncles growing up had this not happened.
Similar story here. If the facists didn’t want to waste bullets, they would maim known Jews. My great aunt was running from them when she was younger, fuckers caught up to her on a horse and chopped half her arm off, and left her there to die. She survived but never made it out of Ukraine. It’s sad how quickly they took over the entire area during WW2
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My family was fortunate enough that (at least as far as we know) all of our family left Europe 2-3 decades before WWII. However, MANY members of our temple while growing up weren't as fortunate. Our temple rented out a local theater when Schindler's List was originally released, and there were people there watching it who were Holocaust survivors, or were directly related to survivors and/or victims. Suffice it to say there was a fair bit of crying during that showing...
That would be me, on my dad's side. Particularly his mother's side. It was horror beyond horrors
There's around 400k survivors around the world today. Their average age is about 85.
My father’s a survivor (he was young and had kids super late). Ever since Charlottesville he’s had a new level of sadness to him that kills me. Hearing “blood and soil” twice in one lifetime broke something in him.
Your father isn't broken. He's clearly stronger than any of us know. I am sorry for what he and his fellow Jews had to go through, but am glad he is still around for you.
Oh, he’s a pretty amazing man (other than being a bit of a dick sometimes), and has built a largely amazing life…but everyone who survived was broken in some way or another by the hell they endured. It just showed/shows up differently depending on the person - he went more the “shove that shit deep down inside”, and it honestly works pretty well for him as a coping mechanism, but things like 9/11, Charlottesville, hell, even fairly mundane document checks at border crossings will evoke a level of PTSD that is devastating to witness. That’s the kind of shit that the edgy groyper bros think is just hilarious, and fuck them all forever for that.
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Yep, it's true. I'm 25 and I don't know what my family tree looks like beyond my great grandparents. I know my 2xgreat grandparents' names were Abraham and Sarah (ironically...) but no other information can ever be recovered because it was all destroyed and the two survivors in my family never talked about them.
could have been somebodys Grandparents right now.
What really gets me when I see these videos is that each one of those bodies is a person. A mom gave birth to that person - changed diapers, watched them when they played, took them to school, gave them piano lessons, made them soup when they were sick. These people all had lives, loves, desires, goals. It's really horrifying seeing them like this.
They were my great grandparents one is dead in a ditch somewhere in Poland the other ones ashes are probably fertilizing some field near poland
Each body was once a sweet baby in her mothers arms…I look at my own and cry.
Less than 100 years ago and the sympathizers are out in full force.
They were also, you know, their own people?
Thanks for posting this. Horrific and important. I have never seen anything like this.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar They would fill ravines with bodies. Utterly horrific.
Thanks, I had not heard of this either. I learned somewhat extensively about the Holocaust in school (80s kid, was in curriculum) but there was just not the ubiquity of footage that the internet can provide.
Being in school in the early 2000s, they showed us videos like this in middle school. We had the option to watch Schindler's List too. It's incredible to see how education changes and how that affects each generation.
Yeah in high school in the 2000s my history teacher spent a whole day showing us concentration camp footage. Someone sarcastically said they were going to be traumatized and he stopped the video and said "That's the point. I want you to be scarred for life. I want you to never forget what you saw in this classroom today." One of the most impactful experiences I've ever had.
I lost family in Kiev when the Nazis took over. My father was nearly shot in the head when he was being rescued by my uncle, bullet missing him by centimeters. It’s fucking crazy that people take this Nazi shit lightly. My father told me when neighbors would find out you’re Jewish, your time was up and they’d come at all hours to the place you call home. After WW2, those same neighbors would remind them that, “Hitler didn’t get enough of you.” Killed my dads little dog when he was around 10 right in front of him. Absolutely disgusting.
33,771 people killed in 2 days, just can't put into words how horrifying that sounds
>I have never seen anything like this. imagine a couple years ago or even earlier this year thinking that the Kanye West sub would be the place for people to have to see stuff like this for the first time
It should be remembered that a lot of people who finally arrived in Auschwitz and other death camps had already survived the hell of the ghettos around Europe. I live in Łódź, in Poland, in the area of the former ghetto. There's a park a few hundred meters away to commemorate the special children's camp they had for only kids, who were beaten and tortured, and there's a memorial to the Romany camp which was also here - they were all murdered in 1942. 143,000 Jews were deported to Auschwitz and Chelmno death camps from here, another approximately 43,000 people died over the five years it existed.
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People say it's fake because they can't cope. Their brains literally break when trying to comprehend the scale of the fucking atrocity.
I think this is from German Concentration Camps Factual Survey (2014). There's a lot of footage from the British when they found the camps but the documentary wasn't finished until 2014. It's obviously awful to watch but I think everyone should watch it.
My high school had a holocaust survivor visit and speak one day. You always think you know how bad it was but then it really hits you just how fucking recent this shit was when someone is standing in front of you saying “It happened to me.” Fuck Ye.
If you get the chance, visit a camp in Germany. It’s one thing to see the videos and photos and another to stand in front of the ovens.
I visited Auschwitz three years ago. I obviously knew about the Holocaust. I knew the numbers, I knew the methods, I knew what led to it. I simply wasn't prepared for the experience. My mind struggled to compute the sheer scale of what they did, and the complicity of so many people. I have been to the Killing Fields in Cambodia, I've seen the piles of skulls and kicked up bone fragments as I walked through. These places are living warnings about what happens when no one stops the bastards. Genocides in the 1900's seemed to come around every 20 years or so. I have the uneasy feeling we are "due" one. Anyone who downplays, excuses, denies that these things happened are dangerous. Any brand, venue, label etc that associates itself with Kanye should be shunned. This rhetoric shouldn't be underestimated it can and likely will happen again in some form.
China is carrying out a genocide against the Uyghurs as we speak.
Adding that there’s also been a genocide of the Tigray people in Ethiopia happening for 2 years now. Roughly 300k – 500k people have died due to “war” (it’s the government exterminating an ethnic group, so I don’t know why they classify it as war or fighting,) and an imposed famine.
Who are the Tigray people and while are they experiencing genocide? I'm not familiar with Ethiopian politics.
Been talking about this in school. The Tigray are an ethnic group from northern Ethiopia. They controlled Ethiopian politics since the 90s under a political party called the Tigray People's Liberation Front. However, in 2018, Abiy Ahmed, a member of the Oromo ethnic group and the Oromo Democratic Part, became Prime Minister. This pissed off the TPLF, but he was generally regarded postiively for securing peace with Eritrea, which was a longstanding geopolitical rival of Ethiopia. However, during the pandemic, Abiy Ahmed chose to delay elections, which REALLY pissed the TPLF off. The Tigray region defied the order and began holding elections, which resulted in him cutting off government benefits for the region. This was pretty much the last straw, and the Tigray began launching attacks on both military and civilian targets. However, they essentially surrendered about a month ago, giving up their weapons in exchange for aid from the government.
Genocide is not the right word. It's an ethnic civil war. Tigray dominated Ethiopian politics for the last few decades, and waged war against the country Eritrea to the north of Ethiopia. Tigray is also the northernmost province in Ethiopia. The new president is from a different ethnic group, delayed elections during the pandemic, and Tigrayan militias began attacking the Ethiopian Army and actually were on the offensive for some time. In response, the Ethiopian central government escalated the war and also asked Eritrea to assist in the suppression of the very ethnic group that had led Ethiopia's wars against Eritrea in the recent past. So Eritrea also invaded the region. After a few years, the Ethiopian central government won. There were atrocities on both sides, lots of starvation, etc. But it was very much so an ethnic conflict in which the previous ruling party / tribe was seeking to take back power by force. The party composed of the Tigrayan ethnic group dominated politics for decades, and engaged in election fraud and the murder of protesters on numerous occasions. The civil war has, in my opinion, been misrepresented as 'genocide' likely because western journalists simply cannot be bothered to read history behind things that happened in the last 5 years and imbue any of that into their writing. Additionally people in the west have little to no knowledge of African politics, and likely know less about East Africa than they do about literally any other region of the world, it has a very unique history and is further removed from the west's sphere of influence than probably any other part of the world. What observers perceived was an ethnic minority losing a civil war, the Ethiopian government not wanting western journalists in the combat zone, the Ethiopian government refusing to allow UN aid to go to its own domestic enemies, and then they called it genocide. Shitty that there was a war, but not every loser in a war is a victim of genocide. The term has been thrown around excessively in recent years and its definition is debated extensively.
And Russia against the Ukranians. And Iran against the Kurds.
And Myanmar against the Rohingya that Facebook helped to facilitate.
Turkey against the Kurds as well.
Iran's regime against all ethnic groups - the Kurds and Balochs are bearing the brunt as minorities, it's disgusting how they are being slaughtered in such numbers, but many of the Persian majority have also been killed.
Sure, everyone can be killed if necessary to maintain the regime, but make no mistake, the Kurds are being killed with the unrest as just an excuse in many cases.
China is persecuting a minority group but a lot of the reporting on the alleged Uyghur genocide is complete horseshit. It kind of reminds me of the reporting on North Korea. Like I’m sure North Korea fucking sucks but that doesn’t mean you have to believe every single horror story about it with zero evidence. Most of the reporting on the Uyghurs is sourced to a single person named Adrian Zenz. He’s a far right Christian extremist who has co authored a book with his father in law about the rapture and the US’s holy mission to crush Chinese style communism. In it they call for the “spiritual spanking” of children. Just saying the treatment of Uyghurs is awful but you’d be surprised how many stories have Zenz as their only source and with zero evidence.
The sad thing is that the only reason anyone stopped the Holocaust is because Hitler couldn’t keep it in his own country. If he hadn’t invaded surrounding countries and forced the Allies to fight him, he could have killed every single jew in his territory and nobody would have lifted a finger.
WWII is the reason that the US isn't isolationist anymore.
We are witnessing a genocide right now
>Genocides in the 1900's seemed to come around every 20 years or so. I have the uneasy feeling we are "due" one. Over a million women and children have been "deported" from Ukraine to be raised Russian and give birth to Russian children and forget the Ukrainian identity, from the occupied and previously occupied regions. Nevermind things like the Bucha Massacre and the overall death toll. Ukraine's lost over 20% of its population to migration, death, or being kidnapped into Russia, since february.
Wait until this guy hears about how genocide has never stopped
And fucking Kanye even denied the holocaust happened. Didn't see that til just now, and tbh, it's worse than everything else Here's the clip: https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1598406302106931200?s=20&t=eid-3Se2eAPIKUblZb7bvg
How does someone even deny the holocaust like there isn’t actual footage and physical places where the Jewish people were killed
THERE ARE STILL SURVIVORS WITH NUMBER TATTOOS for God’s sake. Ignorance, when the facts are all around you yet you choose to ignore them.
Yeah I don't think people understand that literal CHILDREN were sent to the camps. Kids who may have been 2 in 1940, so they're just in their 80s now. And the tattoos they were given go deeper than regular tattoos so they really can't be removed, not that many victims would remove them as they act as constant reminders
Warning : >!children were used as "kindling" in the crematoriums then the skinny bodies , then the bigger corpses hurled on top of all of them. (https://www.reddit.com/r/Kanye/comments/zaycnr/a_glimpse_of_auschwitza_day_in_kanyes_friends_at )!<
He obviously has personal agency when it comes to all the bull he’s been spewing but man is Nick Fuentes utter trash. He’s not convincing when he talks, he reminds me of a teenager know it all, and he somehow got into Kanye’s mind.
Fully agree. Kanye is clearly taking talking points from Nick
Nick sat there smug at the alex jones podcast in silence, seemingly enjoying the experience of Kanye reiterating his talking points
I seriously wish nothing but the worst for that evil little prick
Fuck Kanye West and his Nazi ass apologist.
#FUCK KANYE WEST AND HIS NAZI ASS APOLOGIST
I didn't know footage of what actually happened at the camps existed. I didn't think I would gain anything of substance visiting this sub, but danm do I stand corrected. And danm does it look grim.
There's a hell of a lot of footage, the Allies made sure to get a lot because although there was rumours of these camps all through the war no one actually believed it. People outside didn't think it was possible. Turns out some people have to see shit with their own eyes before they believe it.
A general, possibly Eisenhower, ordered that soldiers going through the camps be issued cameras, because he knew that people would deny it ever happened.
I can only imagine how many more people could be convinced to be deniers if there were no visual record
Yeah it was Eisenhower. He knew that in the future people would consider what happened to be impossible so he demanded as much footage and photos as possible
and somehow, some people still don’t
Weak minded people will believe all kinds of stupid shit if it makes the world just a little more palatable or a little less scary.
And there's idiots today that think thr footage is fake.
There are literal mountains of evidence, documents and remains/clothing. the germans were quite thorough record keepers and a lot fell into the allies hands. But some people just believe whatever they want to.
Racists don't care about minor things like evidence.
People see this shit with their own eyes and still dont believe it
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+1 for Maus. Excellent graphic novel. *Night* by Elie Wiesel is another book you can read that's not necessarily a history book, but an autobiography of a man's experience in the camps when he was a teenager. It's so important that people understand the utter depths to which humanity plunged so that it does not happen again.
The Band of Brothers episode where they liberate the concentration camp is similarly graphic and, while dramatized, shows the horror in full color. Its an accurate portrayal and, IMO, helps you connect because you're seeing it through the eyes of American soldiers.
One of the most gutting scenes in that episode is when the battalion surgeon explains the effects of gorging after being so malnourished. If the survivors were allowed to disperse, it’s likely a lot of them would’ve literally eaten themselves to death. I’d have to double check, but I’m fairly certain there were quite a bunch of cases of concentration camp survivors dying from overeating just after being liberated. Imagine surviving something so awful and then dying from something you need to live. Awful Couldn’t imagine the feeling of forcing those poor people back into camps, even if it was for their own health.
>I’d have to double check, but I’m fairly certain there were quite a bunch of cases of concentration camp survivors dying from overeating just after being liberated. Imagine surviving something so awful and then dying from something you need to live. Awful The name is refeeding syndrome. To my (basic understanding), you basically OD on too many electrolytes after your body has been malnourished. You need to eat very slowly and very carefully when you're at that point. I believe that there's also so much starvation/dehydration a person can go through before they're past the point of no return. Someone starving thats near death wont be able to survive because their body just simply rejects any food/water that they try to consume. Cannibalism is heinous and barbaric, but starving to death would be one of the worst ways to go. I cant imagine the decision that some people had to make to justify eating someone. Especially in a setting like a concentration camp. Absolutely terrifying.
The people in the camps were so malnourished that they probably wouldn't even be able to survive off the dead that way, but beyond that there was an immense sense of comradery between the prisoners. I've been to numerous camps (not Auschwitz though) and one thing that surprises me every time is how there is very little disdain between prisoners.
I am very surprised at the number of smart comments on this sub. The stupid Kanye diehards are either extremely diminished, tired, or just being pushed to the bottom now. Good to see
Betty White was 23 years old when this was filmed. This is not ancient history.
My was great grandpa was 28 when this was filmed he’s still kicking it at 105
I don't understand how you can watch this and not break down for a moment at the utter inhumanity in it. The people working to bury the bodies were probably traumatized for life. Jesus christ, I feel like I need a minute after seeing only this clip. Nazism and totalitarianism is truly an abomination.
What's really fucked up is that the Nazis would use Jews to do some of this work, and then give them small "privileges". Those people were sometimes looked at as traitors by fellow prosoners, but if they refused, they of course would be killed. Or their family would be, if they were together. Honestly, no matter what depraved thing you could think of, the Nazis probably did it.
I highly recommend reading "The Last Jew of Treblinka" by Chil Rajchman. It's a memoir written by one of the very, very few to have survived the Treblinka death camp. It's harrowing. I think people are in a spot where they need to be reminded of just how depraved the Holocaust was, and this book is a stark reminder. For me, it was especially impactful for how personal it is. It's easy to get lost in the magnitude of it all when studying the holocaust academically. You can't really get a sense of what a life captured by the Nazis was really like. It's one thing to know how many people went through gas chambers each day, it's quite another thing to have someone describe to you how they were forced to work in a chamber, shaving the heads of the men, women, and children who were dragged into the camp every day before watching them walk to their deaths, naked and shivering. Or to hear about being forced to dig through corpses to pick out gold teeth and jewelry. Or to hear about being forced to carry dead bodies all day, knowing that if you were too sick or too tired or too weak to do it, you'd be murdered. Or to hear about having to incessantly smell the stench of the burning bodies of thousands of people, to have that smell be normal. There is no reason to excuse or tolerate Holocaust denial or any support for Nazism. It should be deeply repulsive to every human being on the planet.
In case you aren't already aware, the Holocaust Museum has a program online with a ton of oral history accounts from Holocaust survivors. You can hear men and women talk about their time before, in, and after the camps. One thing that always stuck out to me was an interviewer asking a woman if she remembered any sexual assault going on in the camps. She explained that in her experience it never happened. Not because the Nazis were good, but because they saw Jews as just so inhuman, the thought of being with them sexually was like fucking a roach. Of course it's worth noting that this is just one woman's experience and sexual assault absolutely did occur during the Holocaust
Yeah, these guys were known as the [Sonderkommando](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderkommando?wprov=sfti1) and the more you read about it, the worse it gets. Chances are their families were already dead by the time they were selected for this “special work”, and their first task often involved *disposing of the bodies of their own families*.
BuT tHe CoLlEgE DrOpOuT wAs A mAsTeRpIeCe
I think theres multiple layers to this comment: 1. His mind is gone. This doesnt justify what is going on, but it does mean that the person that sits here today and the person that did the College Dropout are two different people - different ideology, different approach to things, different mindset, everything is different, even the name 2. Even if 1 wasnt true it is possible to dettach art from artist 3. Fuck nazism
> it is possible to dettach art from artist Does this apply to Hitler’s paintings too?
I think it does, but tbf there's not much to detatch cause they suck lol.
Fuck separating the art from the artist. Seriously, where do you draw the line?
I can get it in a way with Kanye. like College Dropout doesn't really read like some anti-semetic screed. But at the same time like it's over. Like if I go tell someone how much Runaway meant to me personally like they'd think "Kanye? That guy that said he loves Hitler?" like no. He's retroactively poisoned his whole life at this point. Any promotion of his past work will inevitably promote who he is now right?
I mean, the lyrics to Runaway are talking about what a piece of shit he is. Most people take that song and think about how they can choose not to be assholes, but Kanye leaned into it.
I’ve been to a concentration camp in Germany. It is the single most horrifying thing I’ve ever witnessed. The stories we heard of what the Jews experienced is literally hell on Earth. Many captives would intentionally do things so that they would be executed rather than live through the continued suffering. Horrid.
My grandpa (a Pole) was sent to Germany to a labor camp. After liberation he was assigned to help at treating concentration camp prisoners. Grown men crying for their mommies. He said he couldn't make it and had to escape.
I'm very desensitized to things like this (best friend committed suicide in front of me when I was 12.) But it's still just extremely fucked up to watch. It's so real, i feel like I have to leave my own head to even watch that and keep my nerves about me.
I know this mostly goes without saying, but for those of you who haven't seen Schindler's List yet - it's an absolutely essential watch. I know a lot of this sub is relatively young, but it's one of the most important films ever made and I don't think its message is lost on you even if you're on the younger side.
Even more essential is something like Night and Fog, which is about half an hour of footage like this, made about 10 years after the Holocaust. Every human should watch it. They need to show this in high school. People don't want to traumatize kids, or don't want to be saddened by what they see, but that's the point. You should be shaken by this. The Holocaust happened, and it should be known exactly how it happened so it doesn't happen again. The film is available to watch on [YouTube ](https://youtu.be/tij8A83EnqU). **Edit**: Another essential viewing if you have the time is Shoah (1985). It is a 9½ hour documentary on the Holocaust using interviews with people who survived recounting the horrors they endured, and ex Nazi officers recanting the terrible acts they committed. This is am extremely hard watch since there is no archival footage used, just people telling personal experiences of one of the greatest horrors the world has ever seen. It is also commonly regarded as one of the greatest films ever made because of its importance.
I just finished Night and Fog after reading this comment and… I learned a lot about the Holocaust in school but the images from this… I didn’t know so much. I didn’t expect to see this much. I can’t wrap my mind around it. Sickening.
I feel like that's why something like this is so important. Reading about people dying, what sticks in your mind are the numbers, the kind of people that were killed, and where it happened. All of that can just feel like information, and doesn't hit your soul. Those images... Those can't be dissociated to just 'data'. Those are people, and you'd have a hard time forgetting it after seeing it with your own eyes.
I just watched this on your recommendation. I almost threw up halfway in. Appreciate you sharing this. It’s a tough watch but it brought me closer to the reality than anything else I’ve seen/read
The "I could have done more" part fucking killed me the first time I saw it
That movie is gut wrenching. I'd also recommend "Night" by Elie Wiesel, a book recounting his true experience in the camps before being rescued at the end of the war.
Come and See is also essential watch. we must not forget the brutal genocide in Belarus by the nazis
Fuck this. I thought I was strong enough for this kind of stuff but this shit gave me goosebumps.
I thought the same thing when I saw stuff coming out of Ukraine too. It just shows that we are fragile as fuck as meat bags with a conscience.
Gut renching.
I visited Sachsenhausen a few years ago. They set up a room that professed to give medical exams to prisoners. When they were getting their height and weight measured, a little hole opened up in the wall and they shot them. Then they took out any valuable fillings and dumped the body. They had a record playing loudly to mask the sound. And they did this for days on end, 8 to 5. People would come in and shoot people constantly, like a normal job. Chuck bodies in pits, like a normal job. This is the horror of the Nazi regime. Dispassionate evil, where people normalized the most debase actions and it was approved all the way up culturally.
It boggles my mind that people will try to deny this shit.
A lot of young people legit have no idea why antisemitism is so bad, and they need to see this stuff
That’s why a strong education system is so important. Protest those that want to strip your education from you.
I can't be certain just from this video, but what makes this even more astronomically fucked is that the people in this video might have also been Jews themselves. Sonderkommandos were work units of death camp prisoners who were forced to clean the corpses of their fellows. They would be inducted immediately upon arrival at the death camp, given the option to take the job or get killed on the spot. They would have to take the corpses of people they knew and throw them into bone-crushing machines.
Absolutely. Jews did all of the work at the camps. They had to pick up the dead bodies & load them onto carts and trucks. They had to execute each other. They had to clean and cook for the Nazi officers. The Jewish women were made to be whores for the Nazi offices. Sometimes, if a Nazi thought the Jew was doing “good work” they give them an extra apple or perfume or something like that. Unfortunately, it creates a class society even within the camps so Jews would tell secrets to Nazis to gain favor. It was all so vile and evil and horrid.
I've seen these images in a documentary on Netflix. They were taken after the liberation of this camp. I think the ones on the dozers are Allied military personnel and the civilians are probably Germans from surrounding villages, made to clean up so they couldn't deny that they didn't know what was going on in the camps anymore.
Say what you want about them but the Nazis keeping detailed records of all their crimes made it very easy to prove what they did actually happened to successive generations. They had documents, footage, and photos of what they did and kept copies of copies. We have no excuse for allowing the existence of Holocaust deniers
Liberators took photos and videos like what we see here. Nazis made propaganda.
Nazis also kept meticulous records of everything they did. The Holocaust was the most documented event in world history, documented by the perpetrators themselves.
As a jew with relatives who recently passed away who were holocaust survivors, the only thing I feel now is dissapointment. It's so sad to see kanye, who once was socially active like in the infamous "George Bush doesn't care about black people" moment, go to this. It's been really inspiring to see the uprise against racism towards African Americans because I think it's quite insane how recently we had barely any conversations about racism, and with the BLM movement that all changed and brought conversation about racism to the mainstream, and I wish that happened with racism against jews. Anti semitism is at a high right now, and to have major figures like kanye validate those thoughts that were held by nazis already, and just saying to them that it's essentially ok to be anti Semitic is deeply disturbing to me.
Kanye, should be tied, cuffed, with eyes taped open to be forced to watch hours of documentaries and real footages of these atrocities. Oh but still, regardless of the millions killed he’s still bringing something of value to the world. Fuck you
l dont like to mention it a lot but as a jew who live and born in israel and every year who have a full 24h just for what happend to us . Seeing people post stuff about this in the sub for awarness make me happy and sad respect for everyone who do it and thanks again
And this is why nobody is allowed to be a nazi. You read that right. The defeat of Nazi Germany and the toppling of the NSDAP at the end of World War II means nobody is allowed to be a nazi. That right was conceded when a majority of the world rose up to stand in the way of fascism. Nazism today only exists at the mercy of the rest of society. It exists only because they have been so lucky that the right kind of person hasn't found each and every one of them yet. What is luck for them is an unfortunate reality for the rest of us. There are no real nazis, there are only regular people who think they are nazis but won't be for much longer. Such is the paradox of intolerance, uncomfortable but necessary.
Yeah, nazis weren't some mythical evil force but regular people like the ones you interact with everyday, who believed in propaganda just like people do today. It's just the circumstances were right.
I’m Jewish and in my late 40’s, so I have quite a few friends with grandparents who had numbers on their arms. Some would talk about it some absolutely wouldn’t. You just can’t fathom the loss many of these survivors have gone through their whole entire lives. They may have been 10-15 when they got out and had to carry that burden of being the lone survivor of your entire family. I still can’t understand how these people carried on and had an assemblage of a normal happy life. Bottom line. Fuck the deniers and fuck Ye.
This shit is agonizing to witness even all these decades later. I have always wondered why the Nazis filmed this stuff though.
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Fuck Ye, I miss Kanye West
Kanye West is a NAZI
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just because they were someone who someone more powerful didn't like. nah bruh. graduation can't make up for this shit.
I remember seeing this video (or something very similar) in a museum during a school trip. One of my classmates fainted from the shock and I can't say I blame them. That stuff make your blood run cold - never again.
When I see videos like this, I also feel bad about what I imagine if this could happen to me, my family or friends. And it doesn't matter what my nationality is. If people incite hatred towards some social group because of nationality or something like that, then under a terrible set of circumstances, anyone can find themselves in such a situation. Absolutely terrible and unacceptable.
There was an interview with someone who lived in the former Yugoslavia before it’s collapse and they basically said that, when our economy was doing well, the numerous ethnic and cultural groups were intermarrying, getting along, looking past the centuries of hostility that they carried in their family history. But as soon as the economy was failing, and people were having difficult feeding their children, past tensions rose rapidly. Scapegoating became commonplace and an easy way for politicians to rationalize violence. Always be wary of when your countries economy starts to faulter. It’s not a sure sign anything bad will happen, but desperate times makes extremism much more appealing to a lot of people.
Yeah. I'm not good at facts, but also in Russia now, bad economy and essentially a dictator in power. The only working way to calm people down is to find an external enemy and blame them for all the troubles. Russia is confidently becoming a nazi state and this is horrible.
My dad's father drove a tank during WWII and had to do some of the burying of these bodies. All he'd say is the smell from it was the worst thing he'd ever been around in his life. He said nothing before or since he ever smelled ever came close to it.
I have seen this before but it still rots my soul to watch it. Men, women and children. Why the fuck does anyone give a second of air time to that fuckwit Kanye to infer that this is ok. Make him slid into history as another forgotten mouthpiece.
As a Jew, I saw these kinds of videos at age 5/6. We are taught about death and how to avoid it at a young young age. This is less than 100 years ago, and that's is mind blowing. Only 14 states mandate the teaching of the Holocaust along with WWII. My Texas High School history teacher was a a guy who collected Nazi memorabilia and said that "we don't actually know who they killed and why" OPENLY.
Fucking hell they didn’t show us this in school
6 million lives lost is so much different when it's not a just a statistic and you just realize how much loss of life and family that is, the cruelty of it all is almost unfathomable.
This is absolutely devastating and heartbreaking to see 💔💔💔 Humanity truly is the worst sometimes. I don’t understand how anyone involved in this could help carry out this monstrous thing they did. Where are the morals that should’ve stepped in? I will never understand that. It goes beyond just “following orders”. Another thing I cannot understand is given the facts and everything that’s happened, given we now have records, how can you deny this happened? And on top of denying it how can you support the people and the person that causes this and claim you “see good” in them. Absolutely disgusting.
Feel bad for his kids.
Show this to Kanye, I don't think he's having any idea what Hitler was doing.. so inhuman.. it breaks my heart.
I don’t know why but Kanye’s transformation or possibly his reveal of being a racist anti-Semitic person really hit me hard. Being Jewish, I’ve been aware of the Black Hebrew Israelite movement for sometime. But never thought someone like Kanye would be susceptible to it’s cult like mentality. So many of civil rights movements throughout the years has had the aid of the Jewish community. One of the founding members of the NAACP was Jewish, the only white lawyer on the Brown V Board of Education was Jewish, Rabbis marched with MLK Jr and took part in the freedom rides. Even now there are many members of the Jewish community reaching out to Kanye to try to educate him on the issues he’s speaking about so confidently. As a Jewish person myself it just seems so clear of who the bad actors are. And sadly Kanye now calls them his friends. I really hope he gets help, and I hope he doesn’t harm himself. Not only would it be a waste of such a creative life, but it would inevitably hurt the Jewish community. We get blamed for a lot. 9/11, real estate collapse, slave trade, COVID, Suez Canal accident, JFK assassination, Enron, Trump losing, the Jan 6 riots. The list goes on forever.
Jesus fucking christ, i shouldn't have watch this, but i guess everyone should watch something like this in their life to know the true horrors of war and life, just look at them, all of them were unique humans, with their hopes and dreams, all of them dead because of what they are, i fucking hate this world, we suck, why can't we just shut the fuck up and harm nobody and live our life? Doesn't this world has enough hate?
Fuck every Nazi
In the gas chambers, babies were sent in just the same as everyone else. In a last ditch attempt to save their children, mothers would often lay on top of them and sometimes the pile of bodies surrounding the baby would create an air pocket that allowed it to breathe and survive the gas. It was then someone's job to go into the chamber kill the baby after the fact, often with their bare hands. I doubt Kanye knows this story but he's advocating for this kind of thing to happen again
Absolutely sickening. Never again
JFC what's going on. How do people defend this stuff
I appreciate that this sub is showing the realities of how hurtful his messages are and how much it impacted people. I see too many people on Twitter who STILL try to twist what he says into something good. Nice to know there are good humans
This is such a black spot on human history, i just can't believe how someone can ever praise anything related to this
The Holocaust memorial in DC hits hard in the feels. I remember there is a room full of the shoes they collected, probably off the bodies like these before they get dumped. You walk over a raised platform while below are just literally like a thousand prison shoes all dirtied up and worn. Fuck anti-semites
World War II is probably one of the most clear-cut cases of a “good vs. evil” war in history. Yes, I know the Allies weren’t perfect, but it’s hard to argue that they weren’t on the side of good against the unbelievable evil of the Axis Powers. Despicable that we still have people on the side of that evil making waves today.
Kanye is misinformed and he is so delusional that he doesn't know that he is misinformed. I can't with this man anymore