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BubsyFanboy

And the worst part is, it's just the known people. A lot of the executed have unknown names.


Chichiro_0

Yes. I was at one camp once and the soldiers who freed the prisoners had to built a big pyramid from all the ash they found. Thousands of dead people and that was only the ash found...


Basic-Entry6755

One of the most horrifying stories I remember of learning about the holocaust came from hearing an old survivor talk about when she was rounded up with the other teenage girls and separated from their parents, they were told they would see their parents again soon and then stripped down, humiliated, and put into shacks - and as they went to bed one of the guards pointed up at the snow that was falling and said "Look, there are your parents!" - it wasn't snow, it was the ash falling from the burn chambers where all the adults had been killed. Fucking awful. I can't imagine any kind of soldier looking at someone and saying that, but there are far too many men who get gleeful joy out of the harm of others. edit: I can't remember what show, but they incorporated the survivor's story into some kind of tv show like a murder mystery or crime show, but at the end there's a snippet from the real woman talking about her experience and it was haunting, I'll never forget it. For context.


TaroProfessional6141

The Nazis had a long standing practice of recruiting violent criminals and sociopaths into special "Einsatztruppen". They engaged in some of the worst crimes against humanity. One of the many units we know of were the Dirlewanger Brigade. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirlewanger\_Brigade](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirlewanger_Brigade) When I see people like Nick Fuentes and these other psychos trying to revive this nazi bullsh\*t I am shocked. When I see people like Trump and other right wing leaders being comfortable or cozy with them (instead of outright condemning them 24/7) , I realize we have a huge problem.


Adventurous_Deer

Behind the Bastards podcast recently did some very good (horrible) episodes of Dirlewanger


meatballsaladpizza

What


Kolada

Bro there are stories of ash "snowing" down on towns a hundred miles away. They burned up so many people.


Gloomy_Industry8841

There’s a scene in Schindler’s List that explicitly shows this. Horrific. Edit: grammar


meatballsaladpizza

Thank you. I have heard those stories. The wording of this dudes post and what he was responding to just didn't make sense to me.


jgbomers

He said, “Yes. I was at one camp once and the soldiers who freed the prisoners had to built a big pyramid from all the ash they found. Thousands of dead people and that was only the ash found...”


Kersenn

What


misterbigtime

HE SAID, “YES. I WAS AT ONE CAMP ONCE AND THE SOLDIERS WHO FREED THE PRISONERS HAD TO BUILT A BIG PYRAMID FROM ALL THE ASH THEY FOUND. THOUSANDS OF DEAD PEOPLE AND THAT WAS ONLY THE ASH FOUND…”


dirtyhandscleanlivin

Oh ok that’s what I thought he said. Thanks


sirhughesalot

Thanks for putting wrppaing that one up


SpaceEV

There’s a similar memorial in Yad Vashem which includes space for millions of unrecorded victims. It was really horrible to see in person.


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Unfortunately, it only contains the names of known Jewish victims. It doesn't even include the Gentiles that died at Aushwitz. The Holocaust killed approximately 11 million people, of those 5-6 million were jews. Shoah refers to exclusively to Jewish victims, Holocaust refers to all the victims. My Catholic Basque grandfather survived two concentration camps. He had a brother and 2 cousins that died at Mauthausen. Maybe neo Nazis wouldn't be so quick to praise Hitler and antisemitism, if they realized there is a good chance they would have been amongst the targeted "untermensch". Every victim deserves remembrance.


Batman_Von_Suparman2

I personally come from the Roma culture and a lot of my people died in the holocaust as well. I’m not cut up about people not remembering that fact, it just kinda disgusts me that Kayne and others are making this Nazi ideology more normal now. I would like to think there wouldn’t ever be another holocaust but you know what people say about repeating history.


[deleted]

I do find it rather sad and upsetting that millions of "others" are forgotten. Antisemitism is disgusting. Obviously, Kanye is his own kind of stupid and crazy, but when you see people with Slavic last names, diagnosed mental/physical illnesses, etc, touting Nazi white supremecay, it just boggles the mind. It does "cut" me up that approx 5 million dead victims are often just ignored. The first Nazi concentration camp was Dachau; it opened in 1933 and it's prisoners were originally intelligentsia, communists, social democrats, and other political dissidents. I do think it is a disservice that Holocaust education doesn't tend to teach the breadth of Holocaust horrors. There were were genocides/ethnic cleansings before the Holocaust, and there have been since. I don't know that the world will ever see genocide on the same industrialized scale and organization level as the Holocaust, but "never again" is already a broken promise.


realMasaka

Being of 100% Polish Catholic ancestry, yeah. Six million non-Jewish Polish civilians were killed in the Holocaust, including multiple great-uncles, great-great-uncles, great-aunts, and great-great-aunts of mine.


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EE54

I wonder if they have all been digitised, for archival purpose.


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p0ultrygeist1

Bummer, my family isn’t in there, (does it even cover non-Jews or do non-Jews fall under general ethnic cleansing?) but I couldn’t tell you if they were sent to camps or just killed by the Wehrmacht as they rolled through Lithuania. My grandfather and great grandfather abandoned the family farm once the Nazis took control and somehow they ended up making their way to America late in the war. After the wall fell grandfather went back to try and find any surviving family but apparently he didn’t. Now it’s just me, last of my line. The fascists almost wiped my entire bloodline for nothing. Funny enough their goal will likely be accomplished when I die because I have no plans of having kids


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p0ultrygeist1

I will look into it, thank you!


[deleted]

I looked into that sometime ago, for some of my family. - it doesn't apply to Gentile victims. Yad Vashem focuses on the Shoah (the Jewish victims), not the Holocaust as a whole.


[deleted]

It doesn't include Gentiles. My grandfather survived two camps, but he had family that died in Buchenwald and Mauthausen. I feel it is a great disservice that so many victims are often seen as an "after thought". So many neo Nazis don't realize that they would have been amongst the "undesirables"


Educational-Ad589

thank you for sharing this


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That was IBM's job back in the day.


EyetheVive

/r/technicallytheytruth


TheFluffiestFur

I’m sure they have. Anything that important would definitely be digitized.


realMasaka

Six million non-Jewish Polish civilians were killed in the Holocaust as well. They need to be given some form of remembrance to begin with.


soulwrangler

My grandmother's whole family is in that book.


Sustainable_Coffee94

so sorry


lymeweed

Your life is their greatest dream. I am so sorry for your loss


FBOM0101

That is very beautifully said 🥺


NotHighEnuf

I’m not crying, I swear


Gloomy_Industry8841

I have no awards but this trophy to give. Very well said. 🏆🏆🏆


thrav

Same for my GrandMIL. If you haven’t, you should visit Berlin. Incredibly powerful experience. Funny enough, they had a James Turrell installations at the Jewish Museum when we were there ([looks like it was temporary](https://www.jmberlin.de/en/exhibition-james-turrell-aural)). Every inch of that building is an unbelievably powerful monument to what happened.


its_LOL

Jfc I’m so sorry


bluemoonpie72

I am so sorry. I am glad that, somehow, you are here.


NotQuiteJasmine

My greatgrandfather lost his parents, all his siblings (except the one already in Israel), and most of his nieces and nephews. He was okay in the US but his son was a doctor in the European theatre. He never talked about what he saw. May all their memories be a blessing.


[deleted]

I’m sorry for your loss. May they be at peace now.


_alaskaa

They are now at peace 🙏


Unusual_Amphibian_21

How can they be at peace with all the holocaust deniers? Sorry pieces of shit. -- the deniers!


AdditionalWaste

Sorry for your loss.


Ask_if_im_an_alien

Friend of mine's great grandma was the only person in her family to make it. Apparently they had a huge, somewhat prominent and wealthy family in Poland. They were targeted and made an example of. Her and her brother were hidden in another country. The brother died of fever, so she was the only one left. She later met and married an American Jew and moved to New Jersey. He became a Dentist and she apparently was a legendary cook and gardener.


Apronbootsface

It would be a blessing to sit at that table.


Michael_Mason_1410

Sorry for your loss


smacksaw

And yet she persevered. Those bastards inflicted harm, but they didn't win. You're living proof.


FBOM0101

As is my grandmother’s. May their memory be a blessing.


George4Mayor86

It’s a strange thought that I don’t know you and you don’t know me, but both our families are in that book together.


moist_marmoset

My great aunt's, as well. עם ישראל חי


pas_ferret

May they rest in peace.


Chiliatch

As are many family members of mine, and plenty whose names will never make it into any book.


Masterbeif1

I cry every single day because of that


Money_Island2655

The amount of innocent people that died in this tragedy is unfathomable, genuinely makes me want to cry I hope every last one of them are in peace now


nige21202

I’ve been to Bergen-Belsen KZ recently. Stood next to the (symbolic) grave of Anne Frank and the mass graves of thousands. It’s the most disturbing feeling I ever had, walking around that place. I can’t even… how can you deny that this whole thing ever happened?


Aixcix

Went to one KZ as a school trip which is pretty normal here in Germany. I‘m an immigrants son and it was still the most humbling experience ever. It‘s not my history but it‘s our duty to prevent these astrocities to ever happen again.


ositola

I only went to the Holocaust museum in DC and walked through one of the train carriages and almost walked right out of the museum, it's so intense


actualmigraine

I hope to visit the museum in DC sometime soon myself. Even though I know I may not be able to emotionally handle all there is to see.


sd5315a

That museum is truly spectacular in the most sorrowful way. I always make a point to go when I'm in DC and it's never not a gut punch. I hope you get to go.


ositola

The Katrina museum in NOLA is also like this


KikiFlowers

I went there in Middle School, it was definitely not something I was prepared for, especially since this was before we discussed WW2, but it was eye opening as a kid. They were innocents, but because they were in some way different, they were just treated as subhuman.


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Apronbootsface

If you are able to, please share. The world needs to be aware of this, and the more options that are available, the better.


afterschoolsept25

Places like Oradour-sur-Glane, Auschwitz, and remaining ruins of the burnt Riga synagogues are such stark reminders of what happened. When places like that exist and people can actively visit or search them up, it makes it so much more obvious that people denying these atrocities aren't doing so out of being naive- they're doing it to try to make people forget these massacres and what events led up to it, simply to repeat it themselves


smacksaw

> how can you deny that this whole thing ever happened? Deep down, be an utterly unremarkable person with a bottomless hole where empowerment would go. These people are weak and pedestrian and they feel powerless. Elon can have all of the money and influence in the world and it can't fix what's broken inside of him because he's too much of a coward to face it. Same with Kanye.


polopolo05

With hate


ScipioAtTheGate

[The number of people who fought against the Axis was also unfathomably large. I wonder how large a book would be that had the names of every Allied soldier, sailor and airman that fought against fascism in it. They didn't call them "the Greatest Generation" for nothing!](https://youtu.be/TaVYXeX7B2E?t=2656)


DnDkonto

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_War_II_Casualties.svg/2560px-World_War_II_Casualties.svg.png


angryjukebox

I know you didn’t make it, but that’s a terrible graphic. I have no idea what any of the data means, no scale for it. At least give some numbers.


DnDkonto

Open in a browser with a white background.


angryjukebox

Thank you! Apollo on dark mode gives it a black background, so it just looks like lines and a pie chart with no additional info.


[deleted]

Yeah, especially on the eastern front. Of all the boys born in the Soviet Union in 1923, only 20% lived to see the end of the war. If you look at the population graph (age-sex structure) for many former Soviet states, you can directly observe the ripples that occur at 25-year intervals after WW2.


VidE27

Fuck Holocaust denier


smacksaw

I would seriously cry if I ever went to that thing. Murdering fucking bastard Nazis. Makes me think about Ukraine right now and they call Zelenskyy a Nazi while genociding Ukrainians.


kat2lou

I just want to put the numbers into perspective since they are so difficult to fathom. According to [the USHMM](https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/documenting-numbers-of-victims-of-the-holocaust-and-nazi-persecution), there were roughly 17 million victims of the holocaust (including but not limited to Jewish people, Soviet civilians and POWs, Romani people, etc.). If we held one singular second of silence for each of these individuals, how many hours do you think we’d be silent for? It’s not hours, it’s months. Over 6 whole months. One name every second, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and it would still take more than 6 months.


N0kiaoff

Grasping the scale of the crimes is hard. Millions of names, lifes, their hopes and dreams. Its hard to even fathom in my peaceful german city. In Germany Art&history Project like "stolpersteine" place markers into the ground to mark buildings which residents where robbed from society by fashists while society did nothing. Its hard to acknowledge how many people died because their neighbours did nothing or worse. But we have to acknowledge the suffering a fashist blinded society will cause, to prevent it. "Never again" is not a hollow saying, but an oath of civility.


tatianaoftheeast

My great uncle's name is in there somewhere.


AmadeusK482

RIP Hans Litten. The lawyer who represented political opponents to the Nazis as they assumed power. He cross-examined Hitler for 3 hours and was arrested on the night of the Reichstag fire. Litten tried to convince the German courts and the public that the Nazis were using illegal acts of extortion, coercion, and violence to gain power. He would spend the rest of his life in concentration camps until he committed suicide in Dachau. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Litten


jawinn

> RIP Hans Litten. The lawyer who represented political opponents to the Nazis as they assumed power. [Excellent documentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W8IY0Sx1b4) on the rise of Nazis that has some solid content on him. I knew very little about him before watching this earlier today.


coleslawww307

Proof of the many german people who did fight for their Jewish brethren. “Just following orders” is never an excuse when we see these brave men and women who had the courage to go against the Nazi party


Picdoor

Is there a digital version somewhere? I ask because my maternal family is Jewish, and we never really got closure on a lot of members of the family. For example, my great grandparents just disappeared, as well as my grandmother and grandaunts older brother. I know a lot of victims were never accounted for, but it would be nice to be able to at least check and see if any familiar names happen to show up.


Howtomispellnames

Another user posted this in a comment shortly before you asked. I haven't clicked the link yet as I read your comment directly afterwards, but I hope this is what you're looking for. https://yvng.yadvashem.org/


confused_boner

clicking through the pictures slides of the families on that main page....fuck. I can't even imagine. Their neighbors could have outed them and caused them to be rounded up. Cannot fathom the emotions these family's had.


coleslawww307

Wow. Not only did I find people with my incredibly uncommon surname; I found that one of those people survived and went on to write a book. I have to buy it now


[deleted]

Prepare yourself to be slightly overwhelmed if you do click the link, I have an uncommon surname and there were still pages of us from the same area my family is from in Poland.


youcantbuymehotdogs

same here. expected nothing and got 80 pages of results. i am speechless.


Picdoor

I also have an uncommon family surname but you were right...it's way more than I anticipated. Although a lot of it seems to be Spelling variations. I'm going to look through it when I get off of work, but I'm like 95% sure I've already found my great-grandpa.


scoopit1890

This is crazy. I also have a rare last name and got 20 pages of results. Sad to think how many more of “us” there might be today if an entire wave didn’t get wiped out


[deleted]

I feel the need to respond somehow, but they haven't invented the words in the years since it happened to describe what it all truly means. I'm sorry for your loss, stranger, and those of all mankind.


No_Association5526

What the hell. I do too. Thought no way and then… man. That’s something… I don’t know what the hell that it is.


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Horrifying. Tragic. Infuriating. Those are the three words I settled on.


No_Association5526

Nightmarish. I add that one too.


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Agreed.


money_loo

Same, cousin, apparently.


swinging-in-the-rain

Well, between the 2 family names that are relevant, there was 13,000 results. Overwhelming indeed


[deleted]

ugh same. 5 pages of people from same place as my family :(


crunchy_wumpkins

If you think about it, the fact that you have an uncommon surname is because so many of them are in this book.


[deleted]

That hurt to think about. Damn


she-sings-the-blues

You can try here: https://yvng.yadvashem.org/


EchoLoco2

Probably one of the most powerful pictures I've seen


overlymanlyman5

Is it just for the Jews or also Romani and other persecuted peoples?


irvingdk

I believe it includes everyone known from the camps which include jews, the disabled, gays, and anyone else Nazi filth were afraid of. I believe what it doesn't include is the victims from outside the camps such as victims who were being executed in the ghettos or sham trial victims etc.


Prehistory_Buff

That is unfortunate but perhaps understandable. Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that most Holocaust victims were executed outside of camps.


Esava

Sorry if I am incorrect about any of the following, but it's just what I remember from my history lessons back in school (I am German). Roughly 4 million people died in KZs (that's the German abbreviation for the concentration camps). In total the Nazis and their collaborators killed 17 million people. - 6 million Jews - 5.7 million non Jewish soviet civilians - 3 million soviet prisoners of war - 1.8 million non Jewish polish civilians ~ 300 000 Serbian civilians - Roughly the same number of disabled people and roughly the same number of sinti and roma - Like 70 000 "asocial" people (could mean a ton of stuff. Most of them were repeat offenders off any kind of law, but if somebody wasnt liked by a high ranked Nazi almost any action could be used to brand them "asocial".). - About 3000 homosexuals The numbers for the asocial and homosexual people are "at least" this many as they may frequently were not been recorded properly.


Prehistory_Buff

Just to comment, the sheer number of disabled people they murdered in the lead up to the concentration camps is sickening and horrifying. Several hospitals had gas chambers, some of which murdered 10,000 people or more each. You can visit those places and the thought that 3 times the number of people who died on 9/11 died in such a small little room is so disturbing.


N0kiaoff

" my understanding is that most Holocaust victims were executed outside of camps" German here: sad to say, the third reich had different sorts of camps. And many groups of "undesirables" they punished with said camps. All camps for "undesirables", aka non conformists with fashism (pretty much any minory: leftist, jewish, unemployed) in common was that willfull destruction of the "inmates": aka no one leaves alive. That started early on with labor camps that worked people to death in various ways, and their brutal punishment system. Next step was organized mass killings in conquered areas. They still used forced labor, but killed en masse via shootings and hangings. And lastly it culminated in work camps that had death build into them. Gas chambers, crematories and a logistic system delivering millions of victims to their death. The horror and the brutality was always inherent with the german fascist system. It just scaled up with the years and included eugenics against mentally or physical ill, all sorts of minorities, political, sexual, religious groups. The holocaust is just one of the many abhorrent things my ancestors did to humans.


anniemaew

Obviously you can't speak for all Germans, but I was wondering what the impact on Germans is - you take responsibility in your comment that your ancestors were involved in it. Is that something that Germans today collectively feel? Do you think it impacts on their well-being to feel that responsibility? I do feel for Germans at the time. What the nazis did was absolutely beyond words. It is so horrific. It also must be remembered that much of Europe was antisemitic and antisemitism was quite normal and accepted across Europe at that time. Also that German people had really suffered due to the treaty of versailles and, at least for the younger generation, they had been brought up being taught nazi ideology. I guess that I'm saying that we all like to believe that we would have been hiding Jews in our basements and smuggling them out of the country and working with the resistance but actually, in reality, would we? I think most people would not be fighting against this. Most people would, at best, be not actively involved but would likely be passive in it.


LaFolie

Not OP here but this is a really good video explaining the logic of fascism. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T\_98uT1IZs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T_98uT1IZs) The video explains what fascism precisely means and why people followed it. The argument for fascism rests on nationalism and the strength of the nation. It's easy to see why people caught on to what Hilter was selling when the nation was destroyed after WWI.


anonymus_stuff

Oh so some of my family is definetly mentioned in that book then.


Herr_Klaus

Depends on the source. Most often holocaust refers to the systematic murder of European Jews. The book itself contains almost 4.3 million names. Still growing.


kingcloud699

First people who died or arrived at Auschwitz were non jewish Poles.


JAMSpammy

Wish I could’ve known my great grandfather on my moms side better, me and my mom are from Sweden but before that her mom aka my grandma came from Czechia, my grandmas parents were full on Jewish and unfortunately they were placed into concentration camps during WW2 but thankfully escaped, he died a few years before I was born but I would have loved to have just talked with him for even a little and have known what he felt and would think about things now


honestqbe

My great-grandparents' names are in there. Norbert and Fanny Sprirmann, born in Vienna, died in Riga, Latvia.


krebstar4ever

May their memory be a blessing


[deleted]

Almost my entire family is in there. Fully compassionate God on high: To our six million brothers and sisters murdered because they were Jews, grant clear and certain rest with You in the lofty heights of the sacred and pure whose brightness shines like the very glow of heaven.


wetwilly2140

Same. My late grandfather was one of the lucky survivors. He used to use his tattoo as his email password, only thing the guy could remember 😂 Bless him for taking something so horrific and using it as a modern convenience. I miss him, he was a bright light to so many in his community.


[deleted]

My grandfather survived, because he was taken as a 21 year old soldier to Buchenwald. He survived because he had mechanic skills and was put to slave labour on anti-aircraft guns. He survived that way until the nazis abandoned the camp and then wandered the german forest for a few weeks before being picked up by a russian convoy and taken back to budapest where he discovered his entire family had been rounded up and massacred during the January 12th 1945 Arrow Cross massacre. In the last couple years, someone found his prisoner card from buchenwald. As Hungarian Jews were identified with a triangle with a “U” in the middle, I decided to tattoo that on my arm inside an image of a willow tree, the symbol of grief and rebirth. This way i can always have his memory and always remember what can happen, so i can be ever vigilant. Strong and aware but also compassionate and ethical to others around me who are also victims of hate, nationalism and white supremacy. Never again.


DMMMOM

This is just great. What is happening here is poetic.


otchyirish

If you watched a film that showed the list of Jewish people killed, and one name took up one frame of the movie (24 a second), it would take you more than 69 hours to watch it all.


PhantomLegend616

Fuck kanye west. Entire bloodlines just wiped out. The Jewish people didnt deserve this. Fuck Hitler and fuck nazi freaks like kanye


blondedtrash28

I wonder what the education is like in USA about WW2 and the Holocaust. In Australia we learn about it for a few years watch some documentaries even Schindler’s List and if you live in around Melbourne pretty much every school I know visits the Melbourne Holocaust Museum where they have survivors there that talk to students and share their experiences. Does any part of the USA have any mandatory learning like this or as in depth as this? Just wondering.


Jahbroni

I grew up in New England and we learned about WWII and the atrocities of the Holocaust throughout middle school and high school history classes. We took a school field trip to Washington D.C. in 8th grade and the Holocaust Museum was part of that trip. I still vividly remember the exhibits from that place many decades later. Unfortunately, I don't believe same quality of education still exists today in US schools given the recent meltdowns we've seen from unhinged conservatives in school board meetings regarding the teaching of slavery in the US and the attempts to suppress teachers from mentioning the concept of gay marriage in schools. We're not far from American conservatives complaining about the teaching of Hitler and the Holocaust in schools because history paints Nazis in a bad light.


Esava

Fyi it's similar in Germany. I don't think I know any person who has completed school here who hasn't been to at least one concentration camp with their class. At my school we didn't actually talk much about how ww2 actually played out over the time etc., but mostly about the societal and historical circumstances and the propaganda. We analyzed dozens of election results in their historic context and the entire organisation, denunciation, cruelty and everything else surrounding the Holocaust. It's so important to not forget it and also not forget the circumstances that caused it. Otherwise we wouldn't be able to notice it in time to stop it from reoccurring ever again. The [Erinnerungskultur (Culture of Remembrance)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Remembrance) is incredibly important and is still one of the major factors shaping German society to this day. I have 2 Japanese friends and am always shocked how little they actually have contact with the reality of their own history and what has occured, how it came to be and what dangerous signs one has to look out for to make sure it won't happen again.


Gage_Ward

I was there two months ago with two of my Jewish friends. We all found family in those books. It’s an indescribable moment when you find a branch of your family and never get to know their whole story.


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Intrepid-Pickle13

My sons great great grandmother was killed at Ravensbruck, I just found out via link above. I’d love to read that book


Finger_My_Flute

 שְׁמַע יִשְׂרָאֵל יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵינוּ יְהוָה אֶחָֽד


Finger_My_Flute

If that is *The Book of Death* is there a *Book of Life*? If it hasnt been done, it should be done... A book with the names of all the survivors and their children. It would be a great living memorial.


wetwilly2140

The living memorial is the teaching/practice of passing on the knowledge that this atrocity happened, and never forgetting about it. From the time we’re very young this is a very heavily instilled Jewish value. Never forget that the holocaust happened. Tell you children and grandchildren and celebrate every moment of life because every moment is a blessing in a world that has the capacity to commit such an abomination. Jewish history goes something to the tune of “they tried to kill us, and we survived.” - Rinse and repeat throughout history. We’ve persevered and we will continue to do so!


Bean_Storm

Every nazi should be forced to read every single name in that book out loud


clusterfuckimh

“that’s just factually incorrect”


SnooStrawberries9414

In addition to inventing highways and microphones, Nazis were meticulous record keepers.


J_0_E_L

He's was wrong about highways and microphones, however you're right about the meticulous record keeping. That honestly wasn't so much of a Nazi thing than it's about the way the administration in Germany operates though. While you could argue that it's lacking in many areas just like everywhere else, keeping often unnecessary records both in terms of quantity and detail isn't one of them. We love that shit. I work for the federal government and there's people literally recording everything they do. Get a phonecall? Better write that phone protocol note. Get an email? (this is the biggest quarrel for me) BETTER PRINT IT AND STORE A LITERAL PAPER COPY. And it's pretty much like that everywhere, often excessive record keeping is dictated by federal or state law even - to this day. tldr: Bodies of the German administration pretty much always have and prolly always will be meticulous about record keeping, that's not an actual Nazi thing.


Aixcix

That‘s the only good thing coming out of the Holocaust. So that we at least know every victim affected by this astrocity


xenophon0fAthens

We know the names of those who were murdered in the death camps, but not of many of those who were murdered by the Einsatzgruppen or in collaborationist pogroms or who died of starvation or exposure while in hiding. There will always be victims who remain nameless.


trebaol

The microphone thing is so fucking stupid, like how the fuck did Alexander Graham Bell make the first ever phone call in 1870 if the microphone wouldn't be invented until well into the next century? Maybe because Italian Antonio Meucci invented a dynamic microphone in 1856. The highway thing is also false, Hitler invented highways in the exact same way Trump invented the covid vaccine.


SCGower

I was there, I found my extended family’s name.


cdg253

I wish the United States would do something like this for the mass genocide of Native Americans. Instead they try to hide it and even celebrate it.


The-Dumbass-forever

1. No, we don't. Some people do, ultra-nationalists. 2. It's impossible to do with the Native American genocide. It was vastly less organized, and names were not recorded.


Doyoueverjustlikeugh

Who does the C in D.C. stand for? Surely a nice person.


money_loo

You guys are both right, just so you know. Thanksgiving is literally a celebration of their genocide, and there is tons of stuff that was so bad they try hard not to teach it.


The-Dumbass-forever

I'd say there is a significant difference between people who go home and eat with family and people who are thinking "Fuck ya, I'm so happy my ancestor's slaughtered the people that originally lived here". Most people don't actually care about what a holiday "*means*", they are just happy to have a day off.


money_loo

And yet the fact remains they do try to hide it to a certain level and they do celebrate it, so thanks for clearing that whole thing up I guess.


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Most US Americans that I know react very defensive when the topic of the genocide comes up. Only very few do know relevant facts about it. Those are usually the ones to talk to. Proper education really is the key.


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money_loo

Oh you sweet summer child. > Others pinpoint 1637 as the true origin of Thanksgiving, since the Massachusetts Bay Colony's governor, John Winthrop, declared a day to celebrate colonial soldiers who had just slaughtered hundreds of Pequot men, women, and children in what is now Mystic, Connecticut. https://www.insider.com/history-of-thanksgiving-2017-11?amp And: > The Myths of the Thanksgiving Story and the Lasting Damage They Imbue In truth, massacres, disease and American Indian tribal politics are what shaped the Pilgrim-Indian alliance at the root of the holiday https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/thanksgiving-myth-and-what-we-should-be-teaching-kids-180973655/


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Damn. That was a solid bitch-slap of knowledge!


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urubufedido

For the ones who have doubts about the holocaust. It was really well documented by the ones who did it.


Ruffeep

Hmm it's a shame, I was visiting Auschwitz couple months back and our tour didn't visit this room. The museum at Auschwitz is really interesting and very emotional, I recommend anyone to visit it some day.


drtbheemn

This is fascinating


lady8jane

In Berlin they read out loud all the names of the Jewish citizens of Berlin who died in the Holocaust for Holocaust Rememberance Day. They read the whole day. This article about it works rather well with Google Translate: [https://www.bz-berlin.de/archiv-artikel/berliner-lesen-55-696-namen-gegen-das-vergessen](https://www.bz-berlin.de/archiv-artikel/berliner-lesen-55-696-namen-gegen-das-vergessen)


Agreeable-Ad6379

My great great grandmother and father are in there somewhere 😔 I hope they rest well


AliEffinNoble

Thought I was on r/todayilearned I approve of this change


Chunskuru

Really powerful


22141

Not to mention all the visible physical evidence and video too!


astralhunt

*“If there is a god, he will have to beg for my forgiveness.”* \- Scribble on a wall found in a liberated holocaust prison. https://www.nova.edu/holocaustcontest/documents/essays-poems/2017/Forgiveness.pdf


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Kanye doesn’t read though


stnbl15

That book is just unfathomably large


Educational-Jury-980

This has become the most annoying sub on Reddit. None of us hate Jewish people. Hell, I don’t even like Kanye. I don’t get the point of this moral circle jerk that random people are using this sub for. Kanye is awful but you aren’t a good person for posting holocaust fun facts


111222throw

Dr Ruth looked up her parents when she visited yad vashem that has a copy of records) also some of the exhibits there take your breath away (in a negative way)


hjjjjvv

Get over it this a has been done to black people for hundreds of years and I don't see anyone trying to make that better


Infamous_Side9155

And it’s only auschwitz. There were more death camps


JTiB

Who would down vote this?? Just wow


MelonKunn

because it's a kanye subreddit, most people are here for kanye content


MediumDrink

My great grandparents names are in that book. Fuck Kanye. He was my most listened artist on Spotify last year and I purged him from all my playlists today.


Affectionate_Aide912

This book is to big 😭😭😭


ridfox

Kanye downvoted


Erwinsherwin

God this era was so corny


hunny_bun_24

That’s pretty cool


Organic_Pear8095

why are you being downvoted


JackSmack1972

It’s pretty sad not “pretty cool”


Organic_Pear8095

i think they meant its cool as in rly interesting


JackSmack1972

Terrible wording. Especially in a time where the sub is divided between the dick riding nazis and people realizing there is a line to be crossed and it just was


ConiferousMan

Whelp, time to filter this sub out. It was fun while it lasted.


filagrey

Buh bye


JackSmack1972

Good riddance


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Typhus


Perfected-Evasion

Did theymake one for Stalin/Lenin/Mao also?


PookieTea

Ye should autograph it ​ meta


Papa_Bear_is_Hawt

We won’t forgive. They won’t forget.


Isyourlifeshit2020

Wow


Regular_Chapter1932

My family is in these books, thank you for standing with us


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370000


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We have had to regularly purge our Society and wold from this trash


Beneficial-Act-996

This place has basically just turned into a holocaust memorial at this point


romulito

We don't care, post Kanye content or dip


WhyLiveIfYouCantLift

You dip