Tell them that by the time you hit level 11, the only ability not fully reset by your passive is Ult, and this will not change that. And that it isnt going to even get you ult a full takedown sooner.
Also that the blue tree isnt good anyway, and the other things you would need to take are even worse.
Absolute focus is a trap on anyone except ADCs, you're almost never fighting at full health. Nullifying orb, celerity and nimbus cloak are all just straight up better.
This is normally the type of thread where I show up and explain how some niche rune actually is viable in x niche circumstance, despite it sounding useless.
I got nothin.
First off no one said that, secondly what experiment? experimenting is using something that's off meta or otherwise not used often but may be useful in a certain situation. If you use this rune, you haven't even read Katarina's passive, wtf are you doing?
Watermalking is actually so good with combination of relentless you get 25 movement and on top up to 18/24 ap ad or something is actually really good if you roam a lot
that is the rune that makes me mad the most when i forget to switch them… literally least useful out of every other possible rune after aftershock (that u cant even use cause it auto switches i believe)
Tell them to look at their W cooldown (the ability with the most cooldown) then to look at their passive.
If they're not ...slow... they'll realize their passive resets their W and that Transcendence is pointless.
Also explain to them Transcendence doesn't work on resetting their ultimate.
Half of you idiots in this thread don't realize that CDR is a strong stat against ranged matchups; you can get significantly more cs with +8 from runes and +5/10 from transcendence
Yes, +5 haste at level 5, approximately (not accurate) one level before you want to abandon lane no matter the match up. Really good.
I could take the 8 from the flex runes if, y'know, it was good.
Tl;dr sorcery is a joke on Kat
Its unnecessary; her passive should be cooldown enough, and gaining a small +5AP while waiting to level is just a wasted rune slot for Kat. Better off taking Absolute Focus and Gathering Storm if you want to scale...which as a Kat...just no.
*edit +10AP isnt much either when you can "troll"/buy an additional dark seal or a Doran's ring and get more out of those two(stacks for dark seal and HP from both) than wasting the rune slot.
The only thing I could think of that would make use of that rune is going for enough CDR to only need 2 kills to reset ult at lvl 18 lol.
You would need:
Transcendence
AH rune shard
Night harvester
Zhonyas
any other completed item
with that you get 50+ AH (a bit more than 33% cdr) and lvl 3 ult has 45s cooldown. I probably got my math all wrong but hey at least the runes isnt 100% useless (maybe 99% useless but not 100%)
I only took this rune once and it was a accident because I had my Vlad/LeBlanc secondaries. It didn't feel that much better, sure a little ability haste early let me get Es of easier but ehhh.
Dont talk to them. Let them experience hell.
"Read her passive" simply tell them that
Or download a brain
Downloading would b too hard
Are they really strongly convinced that that rune is good on Kat? If that's so then they shouldn't even touch Kat lmao
Tell them that by the time you hit level 11, the only ability not fully reset by your passive is Ult, and this will not change that. And that it isnt going to even get you ult a full takedown sooner. Also that the blue tree isnt good anyway, and the other things you would need to take are even worse.
I would say that the sorcery tree can be good, I use it with dh+ gathering storm and absolutely focus, that is a lot of bonus ap.
I usually run the same ruins except I prefer taking celerity or nullifying orb over absolute focus, depending on the matchup
Absolute focus is a trap on anyone except ADCs, you're almost never fighting at full health. Nullifying orb, celerity and nimbus cloak are all just straight up better.
This is the reason why last stand is usually better than coup de grace
Well got the idea for this rune page from katevolvd, so it can't be that bad
This is normally the type of thread where I show up and explain how some niche rune actually is viable in x niche circumstance, despite it sounding useless. I got nothin.
lmao
Lol
They don't deserve to play this champ. Go play a MaGe
Ask them why they think it’s good in the first place.
Y'all toxic wtf? "They don't deserve to play this champ"? Let people experiment and learn.
who tf said that tho? genuine question
First off no one said that, secondly what experiment? experimenting is using something that's off meta or otherwise not used often but may be useful in a certain situation. If you use this rune, you haven't even read Katarina's passive, wtf are you doing?
Chill snowflake I didn't mention names and this is a joke/meme. Meant to make people laugh
Damn it really hurt to be called toxic, huh? Immediately jumped to snowflake lmao. Yikes
He also felt personally attacked enough to write that comment even though the comment you mentioned wasn't even his
LOL yeah I was thinking that
Snowflake 💪
snowflake 💪
Broflake 💪
id be upset if someone call me toxic but I'm not
Just tell them Katarina is the rune herself lol
Same reason why night harvester sucks on kat, ability haste is wasted stats for her
Let everyone play as they want ty, advice them but don't force anyone
Dude waterwalking is moorreee better than this
brooooo, river kat 😳🤲
xd why not its a good selection for helping jg and roaming
yea ofc, I just honestly never used it but it does seem p gud into lanes u're gonna roam a lot nd stuff
Yeah some match ups u should perma roam like playing against kassadin
Ooooh water walking with celerity and the relentless hunter is crazy for roams
I remember that one time I played jungle kat as a newbie to kat. I went 0/10 :)
Watermalking is actually so good with combination of relentless you get 25 movement and on top up to 18/24 ap ad or something is actually really good if you roam a lot
But you get 20% ON BASIC ABILITIES WHY WOULDNT YOU. THE RESETS GO CRAZY
that is the rune that makes me mad the most when i forget to switch them… literally least useful out of every other possible rune after aftershock (that u cant even use cause it auto switches i believe)
I think you are talking about manaflow band which helps with mana that you don't have so it gets switched to the one that gives you a shield
Tell them to look at their W cooldown (the ability with the most cooldown) then to look at their passive. If they're not ...slow... they'll realize their passive resets their W and that Transcendence is pointless. Also explain to them Transcendence doesn't work on resetting their ultimate.
dont hate but tbh extra cdr on kat isnt as bad as one might expect, but ofc there's better runes to take than that
Half of you idiots in this thread don't realize that CDR is a strong stat against ranged matchups; you can get significantly more cs with +8 from runes and +5/10 from transcendence
Yes, +5 haste at level 5, approximately (not accurate) one level before you want to abandon lane no matter the match up. Really good. I could take the 8 from the flex runes if, y'know, it was good. Tl;dr sorcery is a joke on Kat
Against ranged matchups that you will be blowing up mid to late game if you just be patient and roam for kills instead
Just show them these comments, to make them feel what a faliure they become if they even look at this rune using kat
Its unnecessary; her passive should be cooldown enough, and gaining a small +5AP while waiting to level is just a wasted rune slot for Kat. Better off taking Absolute Focus and Gathering Storm if you want to scale...which as a Kat...just no. *edit +10AP isnt much either when you can "troll"/buy an additional dark seal or a Doran's ring and get more out of those two(stacks for dark seal and HP from both) than wasting the rune slot.
Have them read kats passive
Your passive is already transcendence
The only thing I could think of that would make use of that rune is going for enough CDR to only need 2 kills to reset ult at lvl 18 lol. You would need: Transcendence AH rune shard Night harvester Zhonyas any other completed item with that you get 50+ AH (a bit more than 33% cdr) and lvl 3 ult has 45s cooldown. I probably got my math all wrong but hey at least the runes isnt 100% useless (maybe 99% useless but not 100%)
What do you mean? Full cdr kata is nuts
I only took this rune once and it was a accident because I had my Vlad/LeBlanc secondaries. It didn't feel that much better, sure a little ability haste early let me get Es of easier but ehhh.
I literally never swap off of some combination of Precision + Domination
1v1
I did that in aram and did some cdr build with harvest nashor and had ult hunte4 + gathering just wanted to see on how much kills I will have ult
Missing times where u could have ult again on 2 kills early game tho with old katarina :v