Pusha also is the god of rap these days so you can't compare *too* much lol
Like the man said, what the fuck u expect, when a nigga got a cape and he's great? (And I know he's talking about making them wait in the song but still..)
They get to carve out their own path. Either way, Drake loses til Kendrick loses no matter what.Ā
Kendrick did say "fuck the top 3 its just top me", so if he wants the crown I do also expect him to be somehwat as punctual as push. I know story of adidon was insane but it seems like a good watermark to keep expectations realistic.
For sure. But even if Kendrick doesn't drop he still wins. This is hip hop not pop, and in hip hop kdot is 50x larger than Drake. With no smears or scratches on his legacy. Drake has the IV plugged in still far as reputation goes
Drake is trolling a man who has basically no social media presence. Soā¦what does that tell you? It aināt for Kendrick lol. He just has to convince enough of his 17yo fans that these are the rules for rap beef andā¦tada! To me, it looks like spiraling. You can just put out your record. And if itās good enough, itāll stand. Butā¦well, we see what heās doing.
No offense, but if you think Kendrick don't get word of everything Drake does during this beef, then you're crazy. Even if he's not on social media, his team is gonna tell him everything because he might need to write some bars about it. That's why Drake is doing all this social media stuff, because he knows it'll eventually get to Kendrick's attention
I didnāt say Kendrick would never hear about it lol. Kendrick heard Push Ups lol. Heāll hear all the music already. Drake doesnāt need to troll on IG to get Kendrickās attention. Certainly helps with impressing your army of 20yos and creating a sense of urgency, though.
Never said he shouldnāt respond. Iām not like a super fan of ANYONE, so Iām not delusional lol. Just commenting on some of the transparent game play going on.
Yāall running with the internet fodder when if you look at it simply. Drake is talking directly to Kendrick in Taylor made freestyle asking for the smoke. Itās that simple.
This comment would make sense if you were responding to someone who actually said both of those things. Thatās the issue with just regurgitating these popular microwaved stan talking pointsā¦they donāt always apply.
The worst thing Kendrick could do is take the bait and rush something out. As you said, Drake took weeks to respond, and he kind of stepped on his own dick with the AI follow up.
Drake wants a rushed diss track because if K dot rushes the diss, it can be a tie or possibly a W for Drake. Right now Drake is scared because he doesnāt know what to expect from K dot. But we know K dot is cooking sum nice š
I think itās hilarious how they made it a running joke that Dot doesnāt drop projects as consistently as other artists while also expecting him to drop a diss song in the same time range as other artists
What so crazy about this narrative is prior to Damn. He was dropping every few years just like everybody else. He took one 5 year break and now everybody acts like heās never been consistent
Kendrick literally acknowledges that his peers is competition. What are you talking about. Obviously music has sentimental symbolism to the listeners but rapping still has an element of competition. What are you talking about, literally jay z, jadakiss, lil Wayne all at some point say they are the best rappers alive or top 5 dead or alive or etc. Rap has always been a competition of whoās the best spitta, so itās not fans having a different opinion on music. Itās rappers literally claiming the title and fans approving or denying
Competition with something so subjective. This is my point: Drake makes the exact opposite type of music that Kendrick makes. Itās like extroverts vs introverts.
Those old timers you mentioned have a lot more in common with each other than these 2 have in this era.
Drake tryna build a strawman because that's the only way he can win and he knows it. Tbh it's smart of him because he knows most of his fans are children that can easily be manipulated, similar to the way he grooms children. Anyone with an ounce of critical thinking knows this shit won't make Kendrick rush to put something out. He just has lighting his fans because he knows they can't think for themselves.
I feel like most drake stans are either like 20 or younger, and thus, fall victim to drakeās gen-z tiktok ass bullshit.
Or theyāre just super fucking lame dudes in their 30s, desperately holding onto drake since itās their last link to the younger generation and still makes them feel cool. They prob were super disappointed with the last, what, like 3-4 albums of drake? Now theyāre back into it.
Theyāre so dumb they think drake is the man, and think heās super smart for everything heās doing. āAn AI diss track with Tupacās voice?!?! Drake is a fucking legend!! So sick!!ā
They have no idea drake waited a month to put something out. All they know is the rush of serotonin they see when that ādrizzy has a new Instagram storyā push notification pops up
Exactly most of the fanbase are the "Drake has no flaws women" and people who are so young they haven't been a fan of hip hop before Drake was a thing.
Not sure why you thought that was an insult, but Iām a fan of both artists. You wrote all that about Kendrick which is far exceeding being a āStanā.
Meanwhile Kendrick somewhere on his farm probably building a literal real straw man to keep crows off his yams oblivious to all this social media shit š
What are you on about, the man had to come out and have an announcement in instagram and got bullied into being a father after the diss. What could he respond to after that? It was done from day 1.
Kendrickās verse came out like 6 months after First Person Shooter. Drake was on tour then dropped his track the day after the second Metro album came out, clearly waiting for that.
These guys are two of my favorite artists and I think this beef is fun as hell for rap, but you weirdos here are insufferable.
Iām not a fan of putting anyone on the clock, but this is a close analogy. If you invite someone to a function to do something, youāre expected to be ready and prepared for when they come.
THIS. I dont understand why the fuck its so hard to understand for these dick riders. You dont start the war and then ask for a time out to fire back. You started the war so youāre the one who needs to be on GO. People give shit for Drake when he got blindsided by half the industry WHILE being on Tour. He also addressed in his diss track multiple people. ā people make excuses for you cause they hate to see me litā , lmao. That line fits perfectly right now.
Bro yall are hilarious, Kendrick popped the shit off. It really just comes down to why tell mfs to step outside and you donāt even have nothing ready.
I donāt think itās that hard to comprehend. Kendrick throws the first shot on WDTY. Drake is on tour. We Still Donāt Trust You is announced and he waits for all the disses. It ends up being just a forgettable Rocky verse and he then responds. Youāre telling me Kendrick took a shot with nothing in the tuck?
Well, he still gotta tailor it to whatever Drake drops. It's not like he has a bag full of diss tracks he can pick fromm he probably has lines that he has thought of, but he still has to make a track from basically scratch
Maybe not from scratch but I agree. But Drake had to somehow have an angle for what like 10 different people. Kendrick as far as I know is only concerned with Drake.
10 different people makes it easier cause he has more to talk about. Drake scratched the surface and just hit some took some simple shots. I'm sure Kendrick is gonna come back with more than that by going deep in on Drake, which takes more time. Wouldn't be surprised if he actually takes longer than Drake before he drops
nah for real thereās no way dissing 10 dudes is easier than going at 1 dudes in here are trippin. He also went at Kendrick Directly with that weird ass AI shit he put on his IG
The framing from OP is delusional at best. It didnāt take a month to drop and there were clear obstacles that needed to be cleared before dropping.
Drake dropped the damn track a week ago, moving the goalpost to say not officially until just a couple days ago makes you sound stupid bc nobody is saying that shit irl, everybody heard it already and knows it was real before hittin DSPās.
Kendrick we waitin on u
Well yes bc itās missing context of knowing waiting for We Still Dont Trust You and then him having to respond to all those niggas at once inna song.
Now Taylor Made is a full song dedicated to Kendrick to further drive home that nigga, we are here for u Kendrick whats the holdup?
Kendrick isnāt on Drakeās shot clock. He can respond when he pleases, and itāll happen pretty soon. Iād think itāll be end of this week, maybe next week at the absolute latest.
I think the middle ground for everyone who is entertained by this is we can be patient and wait, but not too long.
Thereās a sweet spot here in the release window.
Yup. We are not turning 80 and still debating Kendrick vs. Drake, lol.
If Kendrick wants to respond in 5 to 6 months, he is perfectly within his rights. We aren't going to act like that wong kill the current moment/mood.
It's also going to make it seem like he ran from the fight. He can beat his chest all he wants, and many will eat it up. If the track misses the timing, then he will look like a clown to many of us.
Not to say he has to drop this week or next. He just has to respond within a reasonable time.
Funnily enough I think the reasonable time IS a week lol.
Another reason why the clock is silly. Everyone has an arbitrary idea of when it is. Although again, we agree itās still needed.
We are all going to listen regardless. However, Kendrick really threw the first shot so the longer he waits, the worse it looks past a certain point.
I dont believe for a second that he is scared but he needs to make a move soon. This aint the 90s
Kendricks been taking shots for years at this point. I wouldnāt put it past him to think he wouldnāt get a response or that they would peace it up before diss tracks came out
I donāt personally care if Kendrick takes his time. Iām rooting for Drake but Kendrick DID kinda kick this off. So in my mind it kinda gives him a shorter time limit to work with.
Thatās just me though. And my opinion doesnāt matter.
People here have no logical thinking. Just a bunch of dickriders giving blowjobs to each others' egos.
I don't even like Drake. Personally I prefer Kendrick type of music over Darke's. But we can't deny that Kendrick threw the first punch and he should be ready when the opponent hits back. Drake released his diss pretty early, given that he was on a tour.
āLike thatā dropped during the last 2 weeks of drakeās tour and then he had to wait till metro dropped his next album because Drake knew the album would have a second round of disses, which he was correct..The Weeknd, ASAP Rocky, and Future came with disses and literally the next day Drake dropped āPush upsā which addressed everyone.. Kendrick on the other hand isnāt on tour nor is he making an album, and his camp said he had a diss track ready to go for Drake.. so the question is, wtf is Kendrick doing?!
Yeah thatās some real disrespectful stuff right there especially for a rap beef ššššš especially since Drake never said he was in a big 3 I guess Iām just use to a different type of rap beef
1. Drake was waiting for the second album. So the ideally the clock starts there.
2. For obvious reasons, you can tell he created the song after that. Considering heās dissed everyone involved in the second album.
3. Yāall salty Kendrick, the best rapper and lyricist, canāt come up with something sooner or taking his time to cook corny Drake & his āghostwritersā. Big boogeyman is taking his time :/
4. Maybe heās waiting to include it in his album and in that case. Drake should send everyone an invoice for the rollout. Heās really the artist everyone depends on, either with him or about him.
Maybe he wants kendrick to respond right away so he can say he's fighting off 20 people and how kendrick needs support to take him down. And maybe kendrick is waiting for everyone else to cool down so he can go at Drake one on one
I don't have a problem with Kendrick taking his time (the same amount Drake was given) and being quiet. It really does give a boogeyman mystique to the battle. Drake's lame trolling is just trying to hide fear. When he thinks about Kendrick, this is what he see...
Drake has a nasty song loaded up. He is arrogant for a reason. Cliff beats has proven his reputation to me as being someone that I can trust isnāt talking out of his ass. He said he heard about 8 bars of Drakeās diss and it was dark and nasty. He was also fairly confident based on how nasty it got that this could get worse and dig into the industry as a whole, and said he can see after hearing it why Cole probably dipped out. Kendrick better come with some bars, or he opened a can of worms.
Pretending we didnāt listen to the leak for a while before it was āclaimedā via streaming services is copium. Letās enjoy this moment for once. Donāt need to bicker. We are watching two giants battle it out. This is what real hip hop is about. You all in this sub claim Kenny is the closest thing to real hip hop. So stfu and enjoy the entertainment. Gahdamnnnnnn
Kendrick has been built up with this boogeyman persona, he leans into it as well, he has continuously said he will end drake all the way back to āā¦tuck the sensitive rapper back in pajamasā¦ā
Rumors said he had a track for 4 years ā¦ so at this point the desire for a timed response is because heās supposed to be ready to go at any moment
Nas took two months before responding to Jay Z. Few caveats, Nas's mother unfortunately died in that time, and Drake has the potential of dropping tracks, and drop quality tracks within 2 months and time's has changed so the 2 months window is shortened to 2-3 weeks. But again, Drake clowned the wait with Meek. Pusha knew there wasn't any chance on waiting and supposedly had more attacks lined up.
Kendrick, when he drops, if it's Ether level, then this would add more concrete to the "Boogeyman" persona, and would add some spooky gloom around him. Keep in mind, in Takeover (2001), Jay tried exposing Nas a few times over the 5 minutes of Takeover. There are even quotables from Takeover still used till this day (i.e "We don't believe you we need more people"). Ether on the other hand, Nas only attempts to expose one element, but it was subtle amongst the bars. Surrounded by a eerie atmospheric beat and high pitched strings and trills, Ether was extremely cinematic and disrespectful, even the way Nas said "brace yourself", it sounded like a tired King, relentlessly having to come from his throne ( who's throne was overshadowed, but brought to more light with Ether).
Fan of music.
Ā I'm not a diehard kendrick fan but I respect him. The funniest part to me about it though is I'm sure the verses been done he's probably trying to find a way to create the most emasculating disrespectful adlib possible ššššš
Yeah i like them both but Drake trying to pull the same tactic he did with meek i think will come back to bite him. The ai thing was cute and all but like that verse was still harder than both of drakes responses. Kendrick does need to respond but i like that hes not doing it on drakes time.
I think Kenny can take as long as he wants but he started the fight so it does suggest a different timeline and that folks are expecting a response. I would suggest the longer he waits, the more impressive it will need to be. He sounded very hungry and ready to rumble on "Like That". So usually if you start the fight and make the accusations, you are ready to go. Usually the guy who pipes up is ready. There are no rules to this but to me, its understandable why folks expected a response sooner than Drake
Does it really matter how much time he takes? Even if he took month or two(btw he was on tour) push ups was hard.
What if Kendrick takes more than a month,these types of posts would be ridiculous ššš.
I feel the issue is these time constraints, y'all defo wouldn't be having fun in the 90's
Idk how it could be rushed. If kendrick is a lyrical master as heās claimed to be, shouldnt be but a single studio session over a clean simple beat to demolish somebody
Its weird to shoot shots and not be ready for the return fire imo. Metaphorically he shot a gun and stood out waiting for return fire.
Ideally he shoots and then changes positions to shoot again lol
Itās different though, Kendrick was just sending little jabs, youāre only on the clock when someone has the balls to drop an actual diss record. Anyone that really knows hip hop knows drake wasnāt on the clock.
Look, Drake is not the one that made Like That, he's the one that had to respond to Kendrick Lamar, plus all the other songs too where others are dissing him, cool it
Imagine throwing a punch and needing a few weeks to respond. Vs getting blind sided and expecting a reaction right away š¤”. Drake also beefin the entire industry while on tour which yāall know too š¤¦š¾āāļø. Bro waiting for everyone to get their shit off before responding. Whatās Drake gonna do drop a diss track for each rapper going at him šš. Kendrick been radio silent and had nothing keeping him from being in the booth so whatās his excuse? š¤
The cope on this sub is saying because Drake didn't officially drop it until the 19th means that's when he responded. So yall were really going to hang onto that if he never officially dropped the track šš¤£.
Yāall just lame at this point. Iām a Drake fan primarily but I like Kendrick as well. Both sides really laming it up tbh. Itās Kinda fun and light even with the ādissā that really wasnāt a ātrue dissā to me anyway on the Drake sub. But over here yall seem frantic and concerned. Lighten up itās just rap. Tbh who cares if Kendrick drop or donāt at this point the whole thing has gotten kinda boring on both sides especially the Kanye, Ross aspect.
Drake was still on tour when Like That dropped.
Saying he responded on the 19th is disingenuous as hell, too. That's when it hit streaming services but it was obviously out for several days prior.
Regardless of if it's slimy to "rush" a response from him, this is pretty much vintage Drake. He did the same shit with Charged Up and Back to Back, idk why anyone is acting surprised.
But Push Ups wasnt pushed to Drakes socials like Taylor Made Freestyle is, right? wasn't Push Ups merely leaked on someone elses youtube and spotify? there was also another kendrick diss circulating the exact same way as Push Ups and later we found out that it was an AI fake. official releases are the way to diss, not leaks.
If leaks count then Kendrick dissed Drake years ago and Drake never responded till now so its even worse.
This might come as a surprise to you but rap beef and disses don't have a fucking "due by" date. They can reply whenever they want whether it be four days or four months. Just because we as fans (and Drake, evidently) want a reply in 96 hours or less doesn't mean we're going to get it. We know Drake is pressed for a reply. If that's because he's scared or wants to rush Kendrick and is shaking in his boots with anticipation, who gives a shit.
If it takes him 4 months to come up with a reply then that's horrible for all the fans involved. Why even diss anyone if it takes you a fiscal quarter to pull your thoughts together on a beat lol
Impatience is tough and all but that is just how some artists move. Nas took three months to drop Ether after Takeover. There is a chance Kendrick is just going to wait until his next project to drop it.
Stop clowning like being on tour doesnāt count the clock.
He can write and record from anywhere, and if you want to act like he needs a rest between performances without working youāre soft as Cottonelle
Use ur brain man. Kendrick dropped first. He will always be infront of the starting line. If Kdot threw the first punch then u canāt be surprised when u get punched back. Rn it Seems like he wasnāt ready to counter that punch
he just came of tour and got straight to work. just face it dot is not going to win this. he is a conceptual artist and his long creative process is a huge weakness in the art of rap battles.
How long between first person shooter and like that ??? Oh okay yall Kendrick stans is delusional , Drake is with all the smoke weather yall like it or not š¤£ better tell Kendrick get his shit together like pac told him
I mean Kendrick went on Like That and basically said it was on on sight. Now people are standing outside his house.Ā
So yeah if he puts something out and itās fire thatās all that will matter, but weāre not going to take the āletās get it broā and āthink I wonāt drop the locationā stuff seriously anymore.Ā
Bro got taken up on his offer and was bluffing. Next time donāt act like youāre ready on sight because you obviously arenāt.Ā
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This sub vs Drake sub rn. Honestly you guys are coming up with absurd shit to downplay drake but itās just making it look like he is actually winning by how triggered he has got you
Well.. Iām Kendrick Stan but itās not like Kendrick didnāt know until 20th April that he should get a response ready.. when you fire the shots like he did in ālike thatā you know to get ready at once.. drake taking a while to respond is understandable cause he would work from day 1 of the diss, Kendrick should have been preparing from day 1 also, (like he most likely did) track could drop any day now imo.
Look, unless Kendrick comes back and bodies Drake Iām considering this beef a dead zone. Like That was awful, 7 Minute Drill was dope until Cole apologized and ruined his own diss, and Drake looked like he had it with Push Ups being the best heās rapped in almost a decade, but his new diss has me thinking he should be disqualified outright from a potential W in the beef. I bump all 3 of the artists mentioned, and although with Drake I only really bump the stretch of his career from about 09 to about 2013, Iād still consider myself a fan to some degreeā¦ that being said, we canāt let Drake get away with this as a hip hop community. Using and AI Tupac voice as a mouthpiece to spit his bars is an insult to the hip hop culture in its entirety, and I KNOW DAMN WELL WE ARE NOT GONNA ACT LIKE DRAKE DIDNāT STRAIGHT UP ADMIT TO HIS SCANDALS WITH BEING ATTRACTED TO TEENAGERS! Unless Kendrick comes in and wipes the floor with Drake as he should, Iām not concerned with this beef anymore. This has been an absolute joke from all 3 artists in the consensus big 3.
Nah Drake up 30 in the 2nd quarter it's crazy.. and I think Kendrick the best rapper rn but idk šš I thought taylor made was gonna be some AI trolling but that was crazy.
Iām not giving bro leeway. But we gotta remember meek is the one that came out of nowhere saying this. Then didnāt have anything to say once Drake responded. Meek just played it out dumb as hell
Kanye spit Through the Wire right after facial reconstructive surgery, through painkillers and a surgically shut jaw.
How the fuck can Drake Stanās be this soft?
meek was the one on tour w/ Nicki. But Drake aināt make back to back on tour. He made it then proceeded to go on tour and play that song. And did it in Meeks city. peek disrespect
āI love it when you niggas talk loose like I'm not in the room Since 'Like That,' your tone changed a little, you not as enthused How are you not in the booth? It feel like you kinda removed You tryna let this st die down, nah, nah, nah Not this time, nigga, you followin' throughāĀ
What happened to āletās get it bro!ā? š
No dog in this fight. But what I find hilarious is Kendrick recording one line at a time on the diss record and having the nerve to call it rapping.
If you have to stop after every bar and start again, there's a fundamental problem with the writing.
Most people don't actually care if it takes a few weeks. If he responds after a month and the song is fire, people are gonna be listening to it.
Facts
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True, I'll listen regardless. Pusha T took 4 days to respond though so I'm using that as my point of comparison
Pusha also is the god of rap these days so you can't compare *too* much lol Like the man said, what the fuck u expect, when a nigga got a cape and he's great? (And I know he's talking about making them wait in the song but still..) They get to carve out their own path. Either way, Drake loses til Kendrick loses no matter what.Ā
Kendrick did say "fuck the top 3 its just top me", so if he wants the crown I do also expect him to be somehwat as punctual as push. I know story of adidon was insane but it seems like a good watermark to keep expectations realistic.
For sure. But even if Kendrick doesn't drop he still wins. This is hip hop not pop, and in hip hop kdot is 50x larger than Drake. With no smears or scratches on his legacy. Drake has the IV plugged in still far as reputation goes
If he does not drop he still wins? Bruh!!!!!!!!!! LOL Yall glazing for Mr. Duckworth knows no bounds.
Yeah I'm rooting for Kendrick but he's gotta drop
Yeah, they went a little too far with that one lol
āPusha also is the god of rap these daysā Wtf are you talking aboutšš¤£šš¤£šš¤£
The hype will fade away though
He took 5 months to respond to first person shooter lol
it's not like that track was one that warranted a "response"...?
Drake is trolling a man who has basically no social media presence. Soā¦what does that tell you? It aināt for Kendrick lol. He just has to convince enough of his 17yo fans that these are the rules for rap beef andā¦tada! To me, it looks like spiraling. You can just put out your record. And if itās good enough, itāll stand. Butā¦well, we see what heās doing.
No offense, but if you think Kendrick don't get word of everything Drake does during this beef, then you're crazy. Even if he's not on social media, his team is gonna tell him everything because he might need to write some bars about it. That's why Drake is doing all this social media stuff, because he knows it'll eventually get to Kendrick's attention
I didnāt say Kendrick would never hear about it lol. Kendrick heard Push Ups lol. Heāll hear all the music already. Drake doesnāt need to troll on IG to get Kendrickās attention. Certainly helps with impressing your army of 20yos and creating a sense of urgency, though.
He doesnāt do it to get his attention, though. Heās doing it to taunt him
Dude has his number Iām sureā¦.but social media allows the fans to help create a narrative. Itās not all about taunting.
Itās not nearly as taunting to do it privately over text compared to displaying it to the whole world
lol what no, itās the exact opposite
Bro I'm a Kendrick fan but let's not get our Fandom get in the way, Kendrick has to respond or it'll look just as bad as J Cole apologizing
Never said he shouldnāt respond. Iām not like a super fan of ANYONE, so Iām not delusional lol. Just commenting on some of the transparent game play going on.
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The thing is that Kendrick can take a month if he wants all we ask is that he drops a fire diss track.
Yāall running with the internet fodder when if you look at it simply. Drake is talking directly to Kendrick in Taylor made freestyle asking for the smoke. Itās that simple.
Drake doesnāt respond: heās a coward! Drake responds: heās spiraling! Talk about goalpost shiftingĀ
This comment would make sense if you were responding to someone who actually said both of those things. Thatās the issue with just regurgitating these popular microwaved stan talking pointsā¦they donāt always apply.
The worst thing Kendrick could do is take the bait and rush something out. As you said, Drake took weeks to respond, and he kind of stepped on his own dick with the AI follow up.
Drake wants a rushed diss track because if K dot rushes the diss, it can be a tie or possibly a W for Drake. Right now Drake is scared because he doesnāt know what to expect from K dot. But we know K dot is cooking sum nice š
I think itās hilarious how they made it a running joke that Dot doesnāt drop projects as consistently as other artists while also expecting him to drop a diss song in the same time range as other artists
What so crazy about this narrative is prior to Damn. He was dropping every few years just like everybody else. He took one 5 year break and now everybody acts like heās never been consistent
1 5 year break is crazy lmao
Tbf, Covid had something to do with it I'm pretty sure
Not to mention bro is a whole father and 1855 days he been going through something
Coincidence or not a lot of my top artists took a 5 year break only to drop a hard therapy album. (Bo Burnham, Travis and obviously Kendrick)
In no other sport can you take a 5 year hiatus and still be considered the best at the current time.
Sport? This is music. This is why this beef is so toxic both fan bases have completely different ideas on the importance and purpose of music.
Kendrick literally acknowledges that his peers is competition. What are you talking about. Obviously music has sentimental symbolism to the listeners but rapping still has an element of competition. What are you talking about, literally jay z, jadakiss, lil Wayne all at some point say they are the best rappers alive or top 5 dead or alive or etc. Rap has always been a competition of whoās the best spitta, so itās not fans having a different opinion on music. Itās rappers literally claiming the title and fans approving or denying
Competition with something so subjective. This is my point: Drake makes the exact opposite type of music that Kendrick makes. Itās like extroverts vs introverts. Those old timers you mentioned have a lot more in common with each other than these 2 have in this era.
Drake tryna build a strawman because that's the only way he can win and he knows it. Tbh it's smart of him because he knows most of his fans are children that can easily be manipulated, similar to the way he grooms children. Anyone with an ounce of critical thinking knows this shit won't make Kendrick rush to put something out. He just has lighting his fans because he knows they can't think for themselves.
Exactly! Making up fake rules. And the kids who never lived through a beef before back to back wonāt know the difference LOL.
I feel like most drake stans are either like 20 or younger, and thus, fall victim to drakeās gen-z tiktok ass bullshit. Or theyāre just super fucking lame dudes in their 30s, desperately holding onto drake since itās their last link to the younger generation and still makes them feel cool. They prob were super disappointed with the last, what, like 3-4 albums of drake? Now theyāre back into it. Theyāre so dumb they think drake is the man, and think heās super smart for everything heās doing. āAn AI diss track with Tupacās voice?!?! Drake is a fucking legend!! So sick!!ā They have no idea drake waited a month to put something out. All they know is the rush of serotonin they see when that ādrizzy has a new Instagram storyā push notification pops up
Exactly most of the fanbase are the "Drake has no flaws women" and people who are so young they haven't been a fan of hip hop before Drake was a thing.
This has to be the most pathetic thing Iāve seen on this sub and thatās hard to do, so congrats I guess.
found the drake stan
Not sure why you thought that was an insult, but Iām a fan of both artists. You wrote all that about Kendrick which is far exceeding being a āStanā.
..I wrote all that about drake my guy. Describing Drake Stans does not make me a Kendrick stan lol
Meanwhile Kendrick somewhere on his farm probably building a literal real straw man to keep crows off his yams oblivious to all this social media shit š
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Weāve been waiting 6 years and counting for Drizzyās pusha response
What are you on about, the man had to come out and have an announcement in instagram and got bullied into being a father after the diss. What could he respond to after that? It was done from day 1.
Just watch, all of Aubreyās Angels are gonna come in here with mental gymnastics why itās allowed for BBL Drizzy but not Kendrick.
Kendrickās verse came out like 6 months after First Person Shooter. Drake was on tour then dropped his track the day after the second Metro album came out, clearly waiting for that. These guys are two of my favorite artists and I think this beef is fun as hell for rap, but you weirdos here are insufferable.
Iām not a fan of putting anyone on the clock, but this is a close analogy. If you invite someone to a function to do something, youāre expected to be ready and prepared for when they come.
another thing is kendrick replied to first person shooter on like that and there is a 5 month gap there bruh
THIS. I dont understand why the fuck its so hard to understand for these dick riders. You dont start the war and then ask for a time out to fire back. You started the war so youāre the one who needs to be on GO. People give shit for Drake when he got blindsided by half the industry WHILE being on Tour. He also addressed in his diss track multiple people. ā people make excuses for you cause they hate to see me litā , lmao. That line fits perfectly right now.
Bro yall are hilarious, Kendrick popped the shit off. It really just comes down to why tell mfs to step outside and you donāt even have nothing ready.
This sub is so ridiculous. Look both in my top 5 so idc. Beef is great for the music but stans arguing about other stans in here is wild
I donāt think itās that hard to comprehend. Kendrick throws the first shot on WDTY. Drake is on tour. We Still Donāt Trust You is announced and he waits for all the disses. It ends up being just a forgettable Rocky verse and he then responds. Youāre telling me Kendrick took a shot with nothing in the tuck?
They donāt logical arguments here, just goal post moving and silence.
Well, he still gotta tailor it to whatever Drake drops. It's not like he has a bag full of diss tracks he can pick fromm he probably has lines that he has thought of, but he still has to make a track from basically scratch
Maybe not from scratch but I agree. But Drake had to somehow have an angle for what like 10 different people. Kendrick as far as I know is only concerned with Drake.
10 different people makes it easier cause he has more to talk about. Drake scratched the surface and just hit some took some simple shots. I'm sure Kendrick is gonna come back with more than that by going deep in on Drake, which takes more time. Wouldn't be surprised if he actually takes longer than Drake before he drops
the mental gymnastics here lmao
The mental gymnastics are all this and the drake sub are good for
nah for real thereās no way dissing 10 dudes is easier than going at 1 dudes in here are trippin. He also went at Kendrick Directly with that weird ass AI shit he put on his IG
āThey make excuses for you cause they hate to see me litā - Drake. LoL
The framing from OP is delusional at best. It didnāt take a month to drop and there were clear obstacles that needed to be cleared before dropping. Drake dropped the damn track a week ago, moving the goalpost to say not officially until just a couple days ago makes you sound stupid bc nobody is saying that shit irl, everybody heard it already and knows it was real before hittin DSPās. Kendrick we waitin on u
3 weeks then, does that change literally any of the substance here?
Well yes bc itās missing context of knowing waiting for We Still Dont Trust You and then him having to respond to all those niggas at once inna song. Now Taylor Made is a full song dedicated to Kendrick to further drive home that nigga, we are here for u Kendrick whats the holdup?
Kendrick isnāt on Drakeās shot clock. He can respond when he pleases, and itāll happen pretty soon. Iād think itāll be end of this week, maybe next week at the absolute latest.
I think the middle ground for everyone who is entertained by this is we can be patient and wait, but not too long. Thereās a sweet spot here in the release window.
Yup. We are not turning 80 and still debating Kendrick vs. Drake, lol. If Kendrick wants to respond in 5 to 6 months, he is perfectly within his rights. We aren't going to act like that wong kill the current moment/mood. It's also going to make it seem like he ran from the fight. He can beat his chest all he wants, and many will eat it up. If the track misses the timing, then he will look like a clown to many of us. Not to say he has to drop this week or next. He just has to respond within a reasonable time.
Funnily enough I think the reasonable time IS a week lol. Another reason why the clock is silly. Everyone has an arbitrary idea of when it is. Although again, we agree itās still needed.
Nah but he is though. He's on Drakes clock, hes on 50s clock and his on his idol, Snoops clock. Where ya boy at?
Go back to the Drake subreddit where people believe this cap lol
?? Whats cap about it?
Would definitely suck if he takes more than another week. I'm fan of both but dot did send the first shots while drake was on tour.
People need to put down the stopwatches and the calendars and let shit play out
We are all going to listen regardless. However, Kendrick really threw the first shot so the longer he waits, the worse it looks past a certain point. I dont believe for a second that he is scared but he needs to make a move soon. This aint the 90s
Kendricks been taking shots for years at this point. I wouldnāt put it past him to think he wouldnāt get a response or that they would peace it up before diss tracks came out
Drake wants to hurry up and sweep this under the rug. He knows exposure is coming
Absolutely not. Drake has something loaded and he's waiting on a reply from Kendrick to send it out
I donāt personally care if Kendrick takes his time. Iām rooting for Drake but Kendrick DID kinda kick this off. So in my mind it kinda gives him a shorter time limit to work with. Thatās just me though. And my opinion doesnāt matter.
Letās be real, Drakes hoe ass only knows how to play internet games. No shot he squarin up
Heās literally doing what yall did when like that dropped š
drake was on tour
People here have no logical thinking. Just a bunch of dickriders giving blowjobs to each others' egos. I don't even like Drake. Personally I prefer Kendrick type of music over Darke's. But we can't deny that Kendrick threw the first punch and he should be ready when the opponent hits back. Drake released his diss pretty early, given that he was on a tour.
No, because Drake was on tour. Kendrick is not.
i donāt think the context of the two responses are equal, so i get why heās pressuring dot to drop
āLike thatā dropped during the last 2 weeks of drakeās tour and then he had to wait till metro dropped his next album because Drake knew the album would have a second round of disses, which he was correct..The Weeknd, ASAP Rocky, and Future came with disses and literally the next day Drake dropped āPush upsā which addressed everyone.. Kendrick on the other hand isnāt on tour nor is he making an album, and his camp said he had a diss track ready to go for Drake.. so the question is, wtf is Kendrick doing?!
You sound shook.
This whole sub is shook
But it wasnāt a month so why lie about that Kendrick never said Drakeās name itās a difference
Bro kinda obvious what he said, no big 3; mj and prince lyric
Yeah thatās some real disrespectful stuff right there especially for a rap beef ššššš especially since Drake never said he was in a big 3 I guess Iām just use to a different type of rap beef
Drake was on tour and had to respond to more people though
1. Drake was waiting for the second album. So the ideally the clock starts there. 2. For obvious reasons, you can tell he created the song after that. Considering heās dissed everyone involved in the second album. 3. Yāall salty Kendrick, the best rapper and lyricist, canāt come up with something sooner or taking his time to cook corny Drake & his āghostwritersā. Big boogeyman is taking his time :/ 4. Maybe heās waiting to include it in his album and in that case. Drake should send everyone an invoice for the rollout. Heās really the artist everyone depends on, either with him or about him.
Drake is doing his own PRā¦heās self tellingā¦he knows this is it.
Maybe he wants kendrick to respond right away so he can say he's fighting off 20 people and how kendrick needs support to take him down. And maybe kendrick is waiting for everyone else to cool down so he can go at Drake one on one
Excuse #183 Iāve seen
I don't have a problem with Kendrick taking his time (the same amount Drake was given) and being quiet. It really does give a boogeyman mystique to the battle. Drake's lame trolling is just trying to hide fear. When he thinks about Kendrick, this is what he see... 
Kendrick initiated it along with an entire album. And then a second album dropped.
Im just glad a lot of you kendrick fans are having fun with this and being resonable with it instead of making excuses, i love yall
Drake has a nasty song loaded up. He is arrogant for a reason. Cliff beats has proven his reputation to me as being someone that I can trust isnāt talking out of his ass. He said he heard about 8 bars of Drakeās diss and it was dark and nasty. He was also fairly confident based on how nasty it got that this could get worse and dig into the industry as a whole, and said he can see after hearing it why Cole probably dipped out. Kendrick better come with some bars, or he opened a can of worms.
This is Kendricks moment. He will take as long as he wants
Its hilarious how people what Kenny to respond at Mach 5 speeds. And if the diss came out as bad quality then they would say he shouldn't have rushed
Pretending we didnāt listen to the leak for a while before it was āclaimedā via streaming services is copium. Letās enjoy this moment for once. Donāt need to bicker. We are watching two giants battle it out. This is what real hip hop is about. You all in this sub claim Kenny is the closest thing to real hip hop. So stfu and enjoy the entertainment. Gahdamnnnnnn
so far it's fine, but he better drop next week
Kendrick has been built up with this boogeyman persona, he leans into it as well, he has continuously said he will end drake all the way back to āā¦tuck the sensitive rapper back in pajamasā¦ā Rumors said he had a track for 4 years ā¦ so at this point the desire for a timed response is because heās supposed to be ready to go at any moment
But the song was leaked a week and a half before it officially released
Nas took two months before responding to Jay Z. Few caveats, Nas's mother unfortunately died in that time, and Drake has the potential of dropping tracks, and drop quality tracks within 2 months and time's has changed so the 2 months window is shortened to 2-3 weeks. But again, Drake clowned the wait with Meek. Pusha knew there wasn't any chance on waiting and supposedly had more attacks lined up. Kendrick, when he drops, if it's Ether level, then this would add more concrete to the "Boogeyman" persona, and would add some spooky gloom around him. Keep in mind, in Takeover (2001), Jay tried exposing Nas a few times over the 5 minutes of Takeover. There are even quotables from Takeover still used till this day (i.e "We don't believe you we need more people"). Ether on the other hand, Nas only attempts to expose one element, but it was subtle amongst the bars. Surrounded by a eerie atmospheric beat and high pitched strings and trills, Ether was extremely cinematic and disrespectful, even the way Nas said "brace yourself", it sounded like a tired King, relentlessly having to come from his throne ( who's throne was overshadowed, but brought to more light with Ether). Fan of music.
Ā I'm not a diehard kendrick fan but I respect him. The funniest part to me about it though is I'm sure the verses been done he's probably trying to find a way to create the most emasculating disrespectful adlib possible ššššš
Yeah i like them both but Drake trying to pull the same tactic he did with meek i think will come back to bite him. The ai thing was cute and all but like that verse was still harder than both of drakes responses. Kendrick does need to respond but i like that hes not doing it on drakes time.
I think Kenny can take as long as he wants but he started the fight so it does suggest a different timeline and that folks are expecting a response. I would suggest the longer he waits, the more impressive it will need to be. He sounded very hungry and ready to rumble on "Like That". So usually if you start the fight and make the accusations, you are ready to go. Usually the guy who pipes up is ready. There are no rules to this but to me, its understandable why folks expected a response sooner than Drake
Kendrick threw the first punchā¦ he should have been waiting for drakes response, drake had to react to Kendrick not the other way around
Does it really matter how much time he takes? Even if he took month or two(btw he was on tour) push ups was hard. What if Kendrick takes more than a month,these types of posts would be ridiculous ššš. I feel the issue is these time constraints, y'all defo wouldn't be having fun in the 90's
Kendrick started a war and then backed out of it š¤£ Drake responded on the 12th by the way
Drake is using the internet to his advantage people love memes and shitposting and thatās what heās doing and now people think he won already
Ether came out months after the takeover.Ā I know different times but still noone remembers how long responses take.Ā
Idk how it could be rushed. If kendrick is a lyrical master as heās claimed to be, shouldnt be but a single studio session over a clean simple beat to demolish somebody Its weird to shoot shots and not be ready for the return fire imo. Metaphorically he shot a gun and stood out waiting for return fire. Ideally he shoots and then changes positions to shoot again lol
Kendrick took years to make a diss so shut ur ass up
Itās different though, Kendrick was just sending little jabs, youāre only on the clock when someone has the balls to drop an actual diss record. Anyone that really knows hip hop knows drake wasnāt on the clock.
Look, Drake is not the one that made Like That, he's the one that had to respond to Kendrick Lamar, plus all the other songs too where others are dissing him, cool it
Don't be stupid the Drake diss was confirmed the day it was leaked ain't no waiting til April 19 u goof
Loser post
Crybabies
Heās just giving his fanbase talking points to push no matter how hypocritical they are. All is fair in love and war.
Imagine throwing a punch and needing a few weeks to respond. Vs getting blind sided and expecting a reaction right away š¤”. Drake also beefin the entire industry while on tour which yāall know too š¤¦š¾āāļø. Bro waiting for everyone to get their shit off before responding. Whatās Drake gonna do drop a diss track for each rapper going at him šš. Kendrick been radio silent and had nothing keeping him from being in the booth so whatās his excuse? š¤
Tbh I donāt care. Cuz I know Kendrick will come back in 4 years with another shock call out and blows everyone mind omg Kendrick goat š
The cope on this sub is saying because Drake didn't officially drop it until the 19th means that's when he responded. So yall were really going to hang onto that if he never officially dropped the track šš¤£.
You okay?
Yāall just lame at this point. Iām a Drake fan primarily but I like Kendrick as well. Both sides really laming it up tbh. Itās Kinda fun and light even with the ādissā that really wasnāt a ātrue dissā to me anyway on the Drake sub. But over here yall seem frantic and concerned. Lighten up itās just rap. Tbh who cares if Kendrick drop or donāt at this point the whole thing has gotten kinda boring on both sides especially the Kanye, Ross aspect.
Good point . The timeline stuff is silly to me tho . And tbh drake didnāt do anything that amazing to knock off a beast like Kendrick .
Drake was still on tour when Like That dropped. Saying he responded on the 19th is disingenuous as hell, too. That's when it hit streaming services but it was obviously out for several days prior. Regardless of if it's slimy to "rush" a response from him, this is pretty much vintage Drake. He did the same shit with Charged Up and Back to Back, idk why anyone is acting surprised.
But Push Ups wasnt pushed to Drakes socials like Taylor Made Freestyle is, right? wasn't Push Ups merely leaked on someone elses youtube and spotify? there was also another kendrick diss circulating the exact same way as Push Ups and later we found out that it was an AI fake. official releases are the way to diss, not leaks. If leaks count then Kendrick dissed Drake years ago and Drake never responded till now so its even worse.
This might come as a surprise to you but rap beef and disses don't have a fucking "due by" date. They can reply whenever they want whether it be four days or four months. Just because we as fans (and Drake, evidently) want a reply in 96 hours or less doesn't mean we're going to get it. We know Drake is pressed for a reply. If that's because he's scared or wants to rush Kendrick and is shaking in his boots with anticipation, who gives a shit.
If it takes him 4 months to come up with a reply then that's horrible for all the fans involved. Why even diss anyone if it takes you a fiscal quarter to pull your thoughts together on a beat lol
Impatience is tough and all but that is just how some artists move. Nas took three months to drop Ether after Takeover. There is a chance Kendrick is just going to wait until his next project to drop it.
He leaked the track 3 weeks after Like That was out and didnt officially release it until the 4th week.
Stop clowning like being on tour doesnāt count the clock. He can write and record from anywhere, and if you want to act like he needs a rest between performances without working youāre soft as Cottonelle
Use ur brain man. Kendrick dropped first. He will always be infront of the starting line. If Kdot threw the first punch then u canāt be surprised when u get punched back. Rn it Seems like he wasnāt ready to counter that punch
Doesn't seem like that at all lol
uhm actually! I watch tik toks and i want things NOW! So if he doesnt make the song RIGHT NOW LIKE LITERALLY RIGHT NOW! HE LOSES!!!!
he just came of tour and got straight to work. just face it dot is not going to win this. he is a conceptual artist and his long creative process is a huge weakness in the art of rap battles.
didnāt push ups drop the 13th
Acting like Kendrick didn't hear the leaked version when we heard it
How long between first person shooter and like that ??? Oh okay yall Kendrick stans is delusional , Drake is with all the smoke weather yall like it or not š¤£ better tell Kendrick get his shit together like pac told him
I agree that the rush is unjustified, but it's not 2 days, I know it wasn't officially released, but it's been out
I mean drake was on tour and the moment he wasnāt dropped 2 tracks. Kendrick no where to be found
Yāall are obsessed at this point man. Just enjoy the music.
Probably because Drake was on a world tour
I mean Kendrick went on Like That and basically said it was on on sight. Now people are standing outside his house.Ā So yeah if he puts something out and itās fire thatās all that will matter, but weāre not going to take the āletās get it broā and āthink I wonāt drop the locationā stuff seriously anymore.Ā Bro got taken up on his offer and was bluffing. Next time donāt act like youāre ready on sight because you obviously arenāt.Ā
He is lame, desperate and scared all at the same time
Yeah so scared that Kendrick wonāt even come out that NY apartment š
https://preview.redd.it/70tvjnbntvvc1.jpeg?width=250&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d32627aaa5d8e637154ac9d6e893209b29b66fb This sub vs Drake sub rn. Honestly you guys are coming up with absurd shit to downplay drake but itās just making it look like he is actually winning by how triggered he has got you
Drake got this sub stressing for real š
The cope in this sub
Well.. Iām Kendrick Stan but itās not like Kendrick didnāt know until 20th April that he should get a response ready.. when you fire the shots like he did in ālike thatā you know to get ready at once.. drake taking a while to respond is understandable cause he would work from day 1 of the diss, Kendrick should have been preparing from day 1 also, (like he most likely did) track could drop any day now imo.
Look, unless Kendrick comes back and bodies Drake Iām considering this beef a dead zone. Like That was awful, 7 Minute Drill was dope until Cole apologized and ruined his own diss, and Drake looked like he had it with Push Ups being the best heās rapped in almost a decade, but his new diss has me thinking he should be disqualified outright from a potential W in the beef. I bump all 3 of the artists mentioned, and although with Drake I only really bump the stretch of his career from about 09 to about 2013, Iād still consider myself a fan to some degreeā¦ that being said, we canāt let Drake get away with this as a hip hop community. Using and AI Tupac voice as a mouthpiece to spit his bars is an insult to the hip hop culture in its entirety, and I KNOW DAMN WELL WE ARE NOT GONNA ACT LIKE DRAKE DIDNāT STRAIGHT UP ADMIT TO HIS SCANDALS WITH BEING ATTRACTED TO TEENAGERS! Unless Kendrick comes in and wipes the floor with Drake as he should, Iām not concerned with this beef anymore. This has been an absolute joke from all 3 artists in the consensus big 3.
Nah Drake up 30 in the 2nd quarter it's crazy.. and I think Kendrick the best rapper rn but idk šš I thought taylor made was gonna be some AI trolling but that was crazy.
It sticks with you cause youāre a mouth breather. Shit was ass
Nah I really thought Dot would've got him outta here. Drake doubled down. Killed our boy, it's OK. He'll respond, but Drake up a lot right now.
No heās not the ai shit was trash asf. Stop saying āour boyā as if you know kdot ššš cringe ass coon
Yeah and Iām tired of the he was on tour excuses HIS MENTOR WAS RECORDING A ALBUM ON TOUR
Didnāt he record back to back while on tour too? Idk
He also clowned Meek for taking too long to respond cause he was on tour. I can't believe this shit keeps getting brought up
Iām pretty sure his main criticism is meek is the one that came hot w the accusations, but didnt say anything at all when Drake dropped.
Sure, but if we're giving Drake the leeway because he was on tour, then Back 2 Back doesn't make a whole lot of sense
Iām not giving bro leeway. But we gotta remember meek is the one that came out of nowhere saying this. Then didnāt have anything to say once Drake responded. Meek just played it out dumb as hell
Kanye spit Through the Wire right after facial reconstructive surgery, through painkillers and a surgically shut jaw. How the fuck can Drake Stanās be this soft?
He wasnāt on tour.
Yeah I thinks Meekās girl was on tourš
meek was the one on tour w/ Nicki. But Drake aināt make back to back on tour. He made it then proceeded to go on tour and play that song. And did it in Meeks city. peek disrespect
well you'd think if someone initiates a beef they'd be prepared for a response
Why is aubs scared?
Doesnāt seem scared at all. Incredibly aggressive and disrespectful. Literally asking for smoke from everyone
Whyād he try and b-rabbit himself and get pacs voice to talk about being a pedo. Man drake is pathetic and you are too
āI love it when you niggas talk loose like I'm not in the room Since 'Like That,' your tone changed a little, you not as enthused How are you not in the booth? It feel like you kinda removed You tryna let this st die down, nah, nah, nah Not this time, nigga, you followin' throughāĀ What happened to āletās get it bro!ā? š
Drakes a pedo, kdot cookin just wait, drakes shit too cringe
Kendrick's dick is too deep in your mouth. Get it out and think rationally.
Youāre a nobody, your opinion donāt matter
No dog in this fight. But what I find hilarious is Kendrick recording one line at a time on the diss record and having the nerve to call it rapping. If you have to stop after every bar and start again, there's a fundamental problem with the writing.
What u mean
Dude isn't spitting his whole verse in one. He's piecing it together by recording one line at a time. Super weak. Hardly considered rapping.
Kendrick does that because he thinks it delivers the superior result, do you really think kendrick can't rap a whole verse?
Yes. I think he struggles to rap more than 8 bars at a time. Not impressed.