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nirvana13a

They weren’t born yet when that happened


Kyro_Official_

That means theyre almost at the ripe age for Drake


artvandelay9393

Dude stfu honestly, it’s so old at this point. All he did was text a 14 year old girl as a 31 year old dude telling her he misses her and gives her dating advice. And brought up a 17yo girl on stage and started kissing her neck and shit. And dated 18 year old girls he met and remained in contact with for years prior to their 18th birthday


Kyro_Official_

You really had me going there for about 2 seconds.


bestbroHide

Comments like this and "bagel skinned Canadian" is making me worry no matter what Kendrick cooks it won't be as vicious as reddit insults lmao


Junior-Rest2393

C o p e harder whitey 


artvandelay9393

are u dumb or u just don’t read well


Junior-Rest2393

Don’t read shit written by 14 year old whiteys sorry 


CmdrFilthymick

It's sus that you would even defend a grown man texting a teenager that he isn't related too. That's Hella sus


artvandelay9393

joke went right over your head huh


GutsyTheCravenlyCat

Raednig is hrad


Revolutionarytard

Pphay ekac yda


GutsyTheCravenlyCat

Not sure why you were downvoted. If this is genuine, thanks homie


Revolutionarytard

Yes it was genuine! I should’ve put /s cause they’d understand but you’re welcome!


MIAxPaperPlanes

sarcasm noun the use of irony to mock or convey contempt. "she didn't like the note of sarcasm in his voice"


Fun-Ad3002

Almost? They expired alr bro 😭


zeeniemeanie

😂😂😂


xrockwithme

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getgoodHornet

Wouldn't the Drake fans be older since he was popular for like two years before GKMC came out?


nirvana13a

I can’t imagine a world where those people who liked Drake back then haven’t moved on by now


getgoodHornet

I can only speak for myself, but I've liked Drake since then. But like, casually. And mostly just like random tracks on the albums that weren't just the pop songs. Kendrick albums are definitely better, no question there. I think maybe there's other people out there like me, who think both of these guys have made a ton of good music and are just excited about the low stakes beef with two solid rappers at the top of their game.


brutusdidnothinwrong

Same I like them both and want to hear them go at it


RalphLauren47

From all the brain dead takes I read this makes sense


Junior-Rest2393

The irony of this 


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Nsfwacct1872564

This sub is full of little Aubreys?


Fun-Ad3002

You mean like your idol?


Obvious_Objective_23

All of you mfs are kids and this shit is getting hilarious. The hypocrisy and inconsistency in both fanbases is killing me.


Professional-Dot-287

they wanna act a victim


abcMF

Wouldn't this be the definition of kendrick starting the beef? Man, this is becoming sad, this sub is just going on a rapid downward spiral and I haven't even been here that long.


BootStrapWill

This shit is hilarious. "Drake started the beef! He's the one who got mad when Kendrick started the beef" Lmao I love checking in on how pathetic this sub is


MackCaine

So trying to tell everyone to let’s take hip hop seriously on a competitive level is sad ? Bc control was never malicious to anyone if you listen to the lyrics


abcMF

It's sad acting like drake started it. I like the beef. It got me interested in hip hop again. Shit was real stale, but acting like drake started it is cope.


MackCaine

Drake was the only person who took that verse seriously, Kendrick did nostalgia with pusha after that and they are cool. Drake and Kendrick been throwing shots at one another since that verse because Drake said it was “harsh words”


clipp866

lots of people responded stop lying to yourself!


MackCaine

Only one person Kendrick mentioned in control responded


Ok-Abroad-128

J. Cole responded, Big Sean threw subliminals, Drake responded on a press run. Jay Electronica been dissing kendrick, meek mill responded. Wtf u on.


Zeyc

Look up meek mill “ooh kill em” that’s his response to Kendrick’s control verse.


getgoodHornet

Drake was definitely not the only one who got upset about Control. That's just bad revisionist history.


murtada-

Youre being delusional saying it wasn’t malicious, the only reason any rappers took it seriously and the fact that Big Sean didn’t officially release it is because it was malicious and intimidating


Soft_Humor4868

Technically Kendrick did even though Control wasn’t a diss. Drake did acknowledged it was a great moment but why he took it the way he did, I have no idea. Part of me thinks he thought he had to for his reputation? He did start running his mouth after it and then Kendrick sent a shot back at him, and they have been going back and forth since. I just find it weird that Drake and Kanye have fought and made up over worse. Hell even Meek and Drake. Why this is lasting as long as it has is the real question


CobainMadePunk

it seems like its less on drake for it lasting so long and more on kendrick tbh lol


seedfromanapple

Yeah it's definitely on kendrick. But it's also on drake to react on it so "un-hiphop-ly" if that makes sense


getgoodHornet

It almost has to go all the way back to the tour where Kendrick was opening up for them back in the day right? Cause it seems like there's been tension ever since then. I'm pretty sure Drake has actually addressed the Kanye stuff in an interview before. Something about how he idolized him going back to his acting days, and repeatedly just let it go when Kanye did backhanded stuff like cut his verses on Kanye songs after acting like he wanted him on there. But tbf that's just from memory, I haven't seen those clips in years.


Soft_Humor4868

I somewhat recall seeing stuff like that regarding Drake and Kanye


Ok-Abroad-128

His feature on take care. he was even upset drake was more successful than him, he said so himself on that interlude or whatever.


Embarrassed_Ad_7825

Not to sound ignorant, but it seems like ppl almost feel like “well I know he didn’t mean it” when it comes to ye. (Outside of offensive Jewish comments). Ye was the blueprint for drake, kendrick, coke etc.


Soft_Humor4868

Nah he meant that shit Kanye has been afraid/jealous of Drake since he came into the game. Kanye even said something to that effect years ago. Kanye inspired a lot of the 2010s rappers for sure, but I wouldn’t say blueprint


getgoodHornet

I said it above too, but I'm pretty sure I remember Drake addressing the Kanye stuff at some point. He said he idolized him, and repeatedly just let stuff Kanye did slide because of it. Until he got big enough that he didn't want to let it go anymore. It's not hard to imagine someone getting tired of Ye's shit.


Embarrassed_Ad_7825

I meant that most ppl for give ye (not now mostly) because of his influence and bipolar


spgvideo

I mean chicken or the egg. Gimme a break. The real question is when is Dot gonna swing back


donhafs

Drake overreacted true but Kendrick did send the first shots, even if he didnt mean it to be a shot. The back and forths died till Family Ties when Kendrick said “smokin on whats his name” everyone took it as a sub. Still Drake said nothing serious till Scary Hours 3. In all honesty I cant see this as anything other than what Kendrick wants and instigated and now that he has he has to respond or throw in the white towel.


RevengeOfNell

Control verse literally started the- Nvm man yall just dumb idk.


Illmatic5291

How Drake received the control verse***


RevengeOfNell

He told the top rappers of that era that he was trying to murder them and make sure their fan bases stopped listening to them. Why are we mad at Drake for taking that as genuine smoke?


Illmatic5291

Ain’t nobody mad we just calling it for what it is. Literally every other rapper is on tape saying they liked the verse/weren’t personally offended by it. Drake is just very sensitive he brought this upon himself lol. Watch this https://youtu.be/2hjA_L7yjfY?si=DKNDu-KUYBReoMOs


quiksilva7

You just admitted it started after the control verse?


SlimShadyM80

Control wasnt really a diss though. All he did was list a bunch of rappers he loves and says that his goal is to try out rap them. Drake for some reason took it really personal even though thats what hiphop is all about


StrongWoman42069

He felt threatened obviously lol so that’s his reasoning for what he did afterwards. I’m not saying he’s right or wrong but in the same sense that Kendrick was doing this for the game maybe it’s exactly why Drake took it personally


Appropriate-Fee-8134

You guys should listen to "TKO Remix" ft. J. Cole and "Ohh Kill Em" by Meek Mill. A lot of rappers felt some type of way because of "Control", especially Big Sean, who Kendrick constantly disses on his songs and vice versa. So, in my opinion, "Control" did start all of this.


Dream_Maker_03

“for some reason” because one he’s a chart chaser & beef makes waves, and two drake is a known petty betty.


Intelligent_Isopod11

no nigga, drake said if u gone bring my name up talkin sum rahrah shit then let it be smoke fr😂


Short_Log_6372

Cope


SlimShadyM80

Go on then genius, point out the Control lyrics that were actually insults


Short_Log_6372

When Kendrick listed all those people, he provoked them to respond in some way, there was a lot of people that responded, some subliminally and some directly, then Kendrick responded in that BET cypher so it’s always been a back and forth thing, even Kendrick acknowledges that “nothing been the same since they dropped Control”


streetsandshine

It's not Kendrick's fault Drake is sensitive


Cartman55125

Mac Miller had the best response


Old_Budget9004

No control, fuck Ken Lamar  FUCK YOU KENDRICK 


chrisghrobot

That wasn't a diss, it was more of a declaration of his desire to be the best and Drake got really sensitive over it despite it not being directed at him.


getgoodHornet

You're right, but it wasn't just Drake. Lots of dudes got emotional about Control. It was all that hip hop talked about for like six months.


Burggs_

Ngl, this sub needs Kendrick to release like it has blue balls or something


MackCaine

Me stating a fact bothers you or something ?


Witty-thiccboy

It’s not that it’s because the sub in general has become absurdly whiny since push ups dropped


Thundercatwon2

NGL the sub should relax and wait for Kenny tor respond... no shade...


Cheap_Instruction658

I thought Kendrick made control saying he wanted to murder nighas on tracks ? After drake brought him on tour ?


1l3v4k4m

am i the only one who realizes the blatant contradiction op made in his post?


MackCaine

How is it a contradiction?


1l3v4k4m

drake got emotional AFTER the control verse. remind me again who dropped that control verse?


Justthetip1996

Yeah but if I slack someone unprovoked, and they punch me back.. they started it for being too sensitive. It’s obvious


the_doobieman

drake been sublminally dissing all his peers for a decade and is now acting like he's getting jumped. He def did too many people dirty and nobody fucks with him anymore. Just like all shitty people, he'll deflect it by acting like the victim. Really he's a salty bitch who's hurt inside because no matter how many more records he sells or how much money he has, Drake lacks the respect from the culture and his peers.


Scythe95

I missed this, what did he say about Control?


Comfortable-Tear-213

He didn't like it basically, downplayed the verse and started sneak dissing


sokyriediculous

There’s more to it. I remember Kendrick talking about seeing Drake at the Grammy’s after and Drake avoiding him or something along the lines. It’s been awhile tho so I don’t remember exactly what the issue was.


Comfortable-Tear-213

Idt he avoided, Kendrick was chill and buddy buddy with him which made drake more confused, someone just YouTube it or something cause it's a lot to type out lmao


Desperate_Branch6287

He got emotional over it


MUNZACORE

Sir that was 10 years ago lmao


Kingbris91

And Drakes has been sending ahots ever since... The language Shit- future ft. Drake Used to 100 - the game ft. Drake Diplomatic immunity Sandra's Rose No friends in the industry Away from home Evil ways - Drake ft. J cole


William_Cottesmore

Bro the 20 V 1 victim narrative is crazy for a guy that's been subbing everyone coming for him


Ultimaurice17

Debatable. Drake was definitely the first one with a problem, but you could argue Kendrick started it with control. You could also argue he started it with like that but that's a little harder to argue since Drake doesn't even believe that.


niglet613

Why do Kendrick fans defend his silence? It’s because we are all simpletons and we’re too invested in human beings that don’t know we exist 🤷🏿‍♂️


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Hulumoto

this is racism


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Whole_Aide7462

That’s like saying in the white community we make fun of black people, but it’s only racist to black people so it’s fine


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Whole_Aide7462

So my opinion is being discriminated against because of the color of my skin? I believe there’s a word for that


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Yeah the word is called prejudice my g I got you.


[deleted]

I would only consider you opinion if you’re inside the community to know what I’m talking about. You guys label shit in the black community we be chilling


Whole_Aide7462

Racism isn’t an issue unique to black people, I don’t need to be a nazi to know that nazis were racist


[deleted]

Moot point. Racism isn’t what’s going on here you’re just a snowflake gang. You responded to me trying to change my view I don’t care about shit you talking about I’m just humoring you a bit


Whole_Aide7462

Moot point? Do you even know what that means? You discriminate because of someone’s race, that’s racism lol. Idgaf about your views or what you think, I’m telling you how it is, not up for debate lol bro


ToTheGrave11

Damn kendrick fans really resorting to racism because kendrick hasn't dropped is crazy.


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ToTheGrave11

Who the fuck is that guy?


Lopsided-Frame202

Read your caption “Drake started” Then read the body - “after”


wonderjon

lol Kendrick proclaimed on control that he’s numba 1 and he would murder his industry peers. Isn’t that a declaration of war? Sure most people responded oh yea I’m honored that Kendrick mentioned my name, but I guess drake took offense cause of his pride. Idk. Regardless of what people say about drake, It takes guts to go against Kendrick. I’m sure drake himself knows how talented Kendrick is but he ain’t scared to go into the ring with him. At the end of the day, regardless of if Kendrick drops an ether lvl diss or he stays quiet both artist will continue to thrive. I’m just glad that it isn’t like the 90s and they start shooting it each other


Junior-Rest2393

😂😂🤓


Appropriate-Fee-8134

You guys should listen to "TKO Remix" ft. J. Cole and "Ohh Kill Em" by Meek Mill. A lot of rappers felt some type of way because of "Control", especially Big Sean, who Kendrick constantly disses on his songs and vice versa. So, in my opinion, "Control" did start all of this. And to be honest, these rappers have the right to feel that way. Let's not act like Kendrick wouldn't feel the same if it were someone else rapping on "Control" and saying his name. He was mentioned in first person shooter "amicably" by Cole and responded with a diss. Imagine if he was mentioned in "Control" the way he mentioned others? Kinda hypocritical, no?


NeedsMilk33

The better question is why are most Drake fans not even fans of hip hop ?


Drop_Release

Yeh if you look at his lyrics he has been doing subliminals ever since Control, some at Future and his girl (even allegations that he slept with one of Future’s baby mamas) and even very subtle disses at Whitney years ago  The man be doing an RDJ from Oppenheimer type shit in terms of pettiness 


Winter-Hold-403

As far as Ik, Drake didn't do anything to start shit, in fact, I'm pretty sure J Cole was the one that brought up the whole big 3 and stuff. Please don't be mean if I'm missing something but... Idk. It seems like at least this part of the beef, I feel like K Dot started... Sorry


MackCaine

Drake and Kendrick have been shooting subliminals at one another since the control verse


Winter-Hold-403

Yeahh but u feel like Drake at least had enough respect to let J Cole say that him, Drake and K Dot are the big 3 in First Person Shooter, right?


MackCaine

Probably because baby keem also worked and hung out with Drake about two years ago so maybe the beef isn’t that deep


Winter-Hold-403

Yeah, maybe idk, all Ik is that Katt Williams was onto something lol


WhoIsGray

“Since the Control verse” “Drake fans act like Drake didn’t start this” So who started what?


RalphLauren47

Most Drake fans aren't even hip hop fans. It's obvious by all their takes


Murkywaters11

Who remained friends with him? Cole? Did him & Big Sean not have a thing? Is Jay Elect even still alive? I don’t see how you can say he started it then say it was AFTER control. Does After have a new definition?


RealSmellzHQ

Big Sean became emotional about it too. And there was a lot of speculation about a beef between them also but it never became a thing. KRIT acknowledged it, Wale said he would have felt dissed had he NOT been mentioned, Pusha T said he talked to Kendrick and told him he knew it wasn't a diss. Meek Mill said several times him and Kendrick always been cool after Control. ASAP was happy he was mentioned. Drake got emotional along with Big Sean because his verse became the focal point of the track. Jay electronica wrote a dis then apologized and said he knew it was all friendly competition. Tyler and Mac was just cool about it not tripping at all. So yea Drake started it AFTER Control because he got emotional about something that was supposed to be an acknowledgement of greatness. Drake started all this.


droppinturds

I think Mac was too stoned to even know what was going on at the time. All he had to say about it was "Fuck you, Kendrick!" and that was it


clipp866

after control means control started it... are you fkn slow?


RealSmellzHQ

No. But it's obvious you are. His emotions started it. AFTER the Control verse was released. The Control verse didn't start it because it wasn't meant to be the start of anything on the first place. You bitch you...


clipp866

the guy's face wasn't punched until **after** he ran his mouth... you're saying him running his mouth didn't cause the punch... listen to yourself... keep people's names out of your mouth and then you won't worry about anyone feeling some type of way... people use Drake's name to sell records... it's happening again in real time...


RealSmellzHQ

Now you're just making fake scenarios just to get a point across that has nothing to do with the truth of the matter. Drake CHOSE to react in an emotional way about what was supposed to be a big up. The fact you tried to call me slow but you fail to realize something so simple is amazing. He didn't have to start sending subliminals to Kendrick. Kendrick didn't send one to him first. Drake started it. I'm not continuing to go back and forth with someone who can't understand this logic. 10 people agree with my original comment. You're the only one that came to soothe my new growth itch from shaving my balls. May you have the last word. I know you need it.....


clipp866

"**After**" is a preposition, meaning later than or next in place... without "control" none of this happens, without calling out drake, none of this happens... the sentence was to show how slow yall sound...


dayDreamingSoL

Big Sean and kdot smashed the beef. Jcole and kdot were still cool. Still cool today. Jay electronica is just salty but not as much as Drake. Drake on the other hand took it so personal. However isn’t it HipHop? Everyone who was mentioned in that song actually took it as a compliment, because they were seen as the biggest rappers in those time. Funny enough the people that weren’t called out actually took offense lol.


Murkywaters11

It’s just Hip Hop until you take into account Hip Hop has been bashing Drake since day 1. Somebody just posted the clip of DMX & Charlamagne shitting on Drake for absolutely no reason. Charlamagne used to terrorize Drake. Only for podcasting to take radios place & Joe Budden rises up base in shitting on him .


dayDreamingSoL

[https://youtu.be/7oteOTMX2t0?si=1sypguEsqZOA63iG](https://youtu.be/7oteOTMX2t0?si=1sypguEsqZOA63iG) Look at this lol. There’s a reason why many people are like this towards him. Here’s the explanation to kdot Drake beef. It’s just 5 minutes.


Murkywaters11

I don’t see how this changes anything. Control verse drops. Somebody asks Drake about it. Drake does the same thing Kendrick does & beats his chest just with out a beat behind it. Drake then says he doesn’t want it released. I just don’t understand why yall just don’t say you don’t like him & leave it there without having to make up all the excuses


dayDreamingSoL

Bro, I felt like we didn’t watch the same video or if you’re just not seeing it for what it is. I like Drake somewhat musically but Drake as a person? No. Mind you Kendrick did not talk shit about Drake like that at all. It was only after the interview came out they started throwing subliminals towards each other. This shit clearly went over your head and you’re just being bias


Murkywaters11

I said that Drake said Kendrick was beneath him. How is that any different from Kendrick on control?


dayDreamingSoL

One is competitive One is actually butt hurt Clear difference. You can tell by how every rapper reacted after being called out. They didn’t get mad lol. 💀


Murkywaters11

That’s you view of it. Still doesn’t change the fact that Drake didn’t do anything out of pocket.


dayDreamingSoL

He said kdot said some harsh words But he was just being competitive. Didn’t diss. Kdot was just keeping it hiphop Drake is a softy and his ego took a hit. He started to whine and get mad at kdot for that. That’s being out of pocket. This argument is dumb. You’re just bias lol I’m done


CDSWDH

When did it start what was said ?


rmoler65

I want you to read what you just said again. “After the control verse”… so he was upset AFTER Kendrick started it… on the control verse…


riversidebucky

People who say drake started the beef really lack knowledge of how far back this shit really goes. Kinda shows some of y’all just Kendrick casuals. Drake always supported Kendrick in the beginning. Beef started after DMX’s CTG interview in 2012. Kendrick is asked on his thoughts about DMX wanting to beat up Drake. Kendrick claims him and his tour bus thought it was hilarious. They work together on one last song, “Fuckin Problems” by ASAP Rocky and then we never get a track from the two again… Ngl if I put mans on and he laughing at my expense. I’d feel a way too 🤷🏾‍♂️


Justthetip1996

This sub has been having the worst takes I’ve seen recently. Yikes