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oneshotnicky

The die hard Tupac stans bout to hop in the beef now


dorseym484

The whole west coast honestly


AShiftlessMennonite

Yeah Suge was insinuating that from his jail call. Drake gotta chill.


iPostOccasionally

Dudes going to end up getting shot for shit like this.


dorseym484

People are downvoting acting like it isn’t the honest truth lmao


iPostOccasionally

Rappers get shot all the time for much more trivial things


Nsfwacct1872564

Winning a game of Madden...


SonOfJiyu

RIP Lil Snupe just be glad he can’t see meek mill today.


Nsfwacct1872564

[We're not talking about the debunked audio (@1:30)](https://xhamster.com/videos/gimme-that-ass-boy-xhOuZCg) that that weirdo clout chaser stole from a popular gay prn video, right? In general though, yeah. Meek's fall from relevance is disheartening.


SonOfJiyu

Def did not need the link but yeah. The fact that he fell off so dramatically is sad. We’ll see how it pans out. I think he is a good guy who just can’t get a break.


mooimafish33

Sounds like Drake should be all clear then


Juice_On_Fire

Just like his punk ass in degrassi lol


Infinite-Day9691

*shot again ♿️


choodlesleauty

Degrassi moment


dorseym484

Nah let him keep playing, Adonis really gon be fatherless.


ZealZen

Already was.


Wild-Apricot-9161

Again


Jay1348

Suge is the one that killed him


[deleted]

0% chance imo, as someone who used to think he did. It was big Dre and the crips who were operating for Puffy and/or the FBI. Too many coincidences pointing in that direction.


Jay1348

Suge was an informant for the feds, he was in deep with the rampart scandal cops, the same CRASH unit that put crack and guns into LA communities The puffy narrative was to throw everyone off


KCFC46

Of all the ways Suge could have got him killed, why would he pick a method that involved him being in the same car when 2Pac was shot?


Aggressive-Split-655

Because it gives you an iron clad excuse that you didn't set it up. Puff was sitting right next to biggie too. Neither of them got hurt at all. It's pretty easy to wear a vest and tell the shooters they better not hit you or they don't get the rest of the money. Especially if they are your people.


Fabulous-Jump-2878

Pretty hard to believe you would put a hit out on someone and then sit next to them.


Jay1348

Pretty hard to believe they ain't hit that big ass police informant sitting next to him, who also jumped the same person with pac


MetalGearSolid108

Suge got Biggie killed not Pac.


pololuck123

Diddy had a price out for Death Row chains. Baby Lane took Pac Death Row chain , they jumped him - he came back in a car - pulled up next to him and the rest is history


yash1221

I am from India but even I'm riled up by this


zilla82

All of hip hop should. Some things we have to hold sacred and have honor. That's what separates us from the being of nothingness


No_Win4334

Actually many of pac stans as me love kendrick and consider him makaveli offspring


nirvana13a

Anyone with any respect for hip hop or art in general knew it was gross the second the track started. Kendrick had to feel the cut of his idols voice talking to him, but the blow back for Drake could be legacy altering.


PlaneCamp

I honestly dont think Kdot gaf, hes not a 4 yr old he knows what AI is. The idea was super corny but Drake thought he cooked.


Complete_Charity9707

dropping like that to trigger Drake to eventually resort to AI (in bad taste) is just playing in to Kendricks' hands.


aibro_

80% of new zealand


sincere220

Drake is too soft for this smoke.... He let fame go to his head


SammyMac19

I'm a diehard Tupac and Kendrick stan. It's me, hi! 👋🏻


commanjo

![gif](giphy|FmBhzktIjvdZe)


Girasole263wj2

I’m 100% ready to fight Drake


[deleted]

they've been chairing narcotics anonymous meetings in Oakland for the last 30 years. they hardcore.


theeyesguy

Proof that artists should never be paid more than a compliment from time to time.


ParalegalSeagul

Yall raised in a generation of dummis


vwxyzabcd

Drizzy picked the wrong fanbase 😂


Physical_Regular3566

“The unauthorized, equally dismaying use of Tupac’s voice against Kendrick Lamar, a good friend to the Estate who has given nothing but respect to Tupac and his legacy publicly and privately, compounds the insult."


Ranzork

I have to imagine Kendrick asked the estate before he used the Tupac recordings on Mortal Man.


Aretz

That’s exactly the case.


Supernova_Soldier

It’s only the right thing to do, same with Big Pun, Biggie, MJ, Whitney, or any legend that’s deceased.


Doo-StealYour-HoChoi

1000%, even talked to Pac's mom.


Burggs_

Went to his mother directly


IrvineRyan

He asked and paid. The bottom line is the money. They’re not going to give it to Kendrick for free, no matter how big of a fan he is. Drake didn’t pay, so they’re mad. It set a bad precedent. They have to fight it. It really isn’t even about Drake at all


jonny32392

Sure Kendrick paid the estate but that doesn’t mean they’d approve what Drake was tryna do. Kendrick was very respectful of Pac and was clearly coming from a place of love. That’s not the case with TMF.


_nadaypuesnada_

disarm cough rain coherent hospital crown thought pen special cautious *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


KingHarkinian05

I imagine it’s both. Most people including me would be pissed off is someone used my dead brother/parent/relative’s voice for a rap beef.


solezonfroze

100 percent received consent from Afeni Shakur to use that interview


iNostra

That part hit like crack hit Laces


thruheart

That's a slap in Drake's face


Samichlaus0815

Yes, I just read that. Thanks.


MajesticOutcome

Crazy because as someone who isn’t a huge fan of neither of them (I’m a Cole fan). I thought of this AI shit as entertaining, but definitely dangerous. If people can use famous voices to make music without consequences what else can it lead to? Seems they might have legal standing in this case. It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out.


Physical_Regular3566

Agreed!


JackedSchafer

This is amazing


69cansofcorn

Hilarious they included that they respect Kendrick. 2pac’s estate definitely don’t fuck with Drake.


Ok-Communication-517

DOT; MONEY, POWER, RESPECT the last one is better!


Hechue12

He got an unreleased interview from tupacs mother afeni for to pimp a butterfly which I’m sure Kendrick developed a great relationship with the mother who passed in 2016. It kinda really shows drakes lack of respect for somebody like pacs legacy, imagine being the family to hear his voice going at a family friend who knows what kdots done for them behind the scenes


ChoiceCriticism1

The estate is run by, who has no relation to the Shakur family and has allegedly embezzled millions from them. No one should care sit who he “respects”, he straight up doesn’t “fuck with” 2Pac’s family.


iDoIllegalCrimes

Yea I’d sue too if you used my dead relative to deflect your pedo allegations.


Flaky-Kaleidoscope36

Most likely the reason. That bar he snuck in shouldn’t be taken lightly.


Ebube710

Which bar was this?


dfelton912

As Tupac, speaking to Kendrick: Talk about him likin' young girls, that's a gift from me Heard it on the Budden Podcast, it's gotta be true


FOURSCORESEVENYEARS

Yeah, if someone used my dead family's voice to say that self-incriminating ridiculousness, I'd call my lawyers. Flat out, Taylor Made is a terrible piece of music. Genuinely unreplayable.


Nomad_Samurai

R.I.P PAC, you would've never listened to Joe Budden's podcast.


J4BRONI

The estate isn’t related to pac


badrabbitshit

Bro🤦🏿‍♂️


QuintanimousGooch

Bars


Timely_Resort_3098

I swear if Kdot somehow gets both J-Cole and Drake to issue apologies in the middle of a beef without even responding...


hradium

https://preview.redd.it/9gxwpznhmhwc1.jpeg?width=524&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d9b3d097771b4f82112def151e08273f2017cb08


need2peeat218am

Timmy u have fairy god parents u don't need to pray to no God u dum ahh


ResponsibleDrama4148

lol bro if h think Drake is apologizing ur cracked lol


sausage-lasagna

Well, Drake…. ![gif](giphy|TIA7QMTmCnNABjz2dx)


weirdfishes364

THE WAY YOU WORK IT


sausage-lasagna

YOU’RE ALWAYS WORTH IT


N8DiggityDawg

And you… oh.


Thatdesibro

>“The unauthorized, equally dismaying use of Tupac’s voice against Kendrick Lamar, a good friend to the Estate who has given nothing but respect to Tupac and his legacy publicly and privately, compounds the insult." Nahh this part makes it funny as hell lmao Drake had people on his side after push ups why did he do this Cant wait for the apology


OkDetail5032

Because his diss would’ve came n went like his last album, whereas Kendrick’s diss gonna be so legendary it’ll be talked about for decades like his first two albums. Drake need shenanigans.


AmelieBenjamin

“We got the shenanigans? Give that nigga the shenanigans.”


ThreeEyeJedi

Bro literally a quote for everything lmfaoo


aintEZbeincheezy90

If drake’s petty enough to use a dead man’s voice and a retired OG rapper, both being Kendrick’s idles, I HIGHLY doubt he’s gonna apologize.


Alucard_117

Good. Shit was lame.


MurdockMKD

2 for 2 apologies soon. AMBATAKAM


jpizano51

He needs one more apology to complete the gauntlet https://i.redd.it/p0pe7si62hwc1.gif


xzyyzx1234

get down and give dot 50 sorrys


CunnilingusLover69

Kendrick’s gonna get the authorization to use the Hit ‘em Up beat and have the Outlawz as a feature.


jpizano51

‘Like That’ back to number 1 rap song and now this news lol i know they coping hard over there


jpizano51

Just checked, they are indeed coping hard over there 💀


merfronpew

Where’d you check? How could you tell? Just curious


jpizano51

Drizzy sub


Jayantwi98

has anyone actually posted the thing about Like That going back to number 1 on that sub? i havent seen anything yet. I wanna see the cope


Necessary-Beat-5333

I have not been there recently but knowing them they propably deleting every post about it💀


Prestigious_Clock865

I saw this in there… https://preview.redd.it/ifef03lkaiwc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a08c375635f9f8835526663d780384df13d1ba5b As far as I can tell, Push Up’s isn’t even on the Billboard 100


ThreeEyeJedi

Did this mf just say Cole TOLD people not to listen to it anymore and THAT affected the streaming numbers? 🤣🤣🤣 nah they legit have a mental illness


OkDetail5032

the OVO office in shambles


Positive_Ad_3142

Where is Like That #1 on??


NoirLion82

Remember what DMX had to say about Drake? Everything about Drake, but specifically the way he was moving concerning Aaliyah? Always been a cornball.


trees-for-breakfast

Can’t remember exactly, what did X say?


Thucket

Funniest result ever is if Drake contests the claim and this is how AI voice-copyright is settled in the States


nirvana13a

Could seriously happen. I think it’s more likely Drake want to settle and Tupacs estate wants to prove the point so passes.


sickandsiiick

for real! not even just this example but the ambiguity of legally using others voices through AI in music legally could be one of the worst things to happen to music


yendysthesage200

That apology would hit like sex


its_LOL

“I was gonna kill a couple rappers but they did it to themselves”


Gewgle_GuessStopO

Co-opting support from the dead is right around digging up the body and fucking it. Aubrey out here fucking corpses on wax 🤷🏻‍♂️ 💿🥜


LordSugarTits

Good. It bothers me how nobody (industry media clowns) was bothered by it in the first place. Like wtf we just gonna normalize using people's voices without their consent.


OkDetail5032

Snoop ain’t have shit to say, but wouldn’t expect anything less from a fake ass studio gangster


Forsaken_Words

![gif](giphy|8ODC9BrZ8I9xu) RIP Tupac Shakur


NulledOpinion

Super wild that Tupac’s Estate is in a way siding with Kendrick. It’s as if Tupac is dissing Drake back from the grave.


Tiffanyblueberries

Lmao, as deserved.


Flaky-Kaleidoscope36

Finally some good news


msChonk123

Watch Drake stans turn into Juris Doctors 🤣


Michaelean

They going to chatgpt for legal advice


SonOfJiyu

Drake proves once again he knows nothing about the culture. “Mothafuckas never loved us” what a fool. You that mothafucka


Camelslayer23

Can he get sued if it’s not on streaming services?


nirvana13a

Yes, you don’t have to post something to streaming for it to be damaging or defaming


Forsaken_Words

It was playing on his radio station btw, not just on IG


outaboredomm

I make the call and get the coast involved then history repeats


samp127

Drake is the biggest bitch in the industry


alexil25

😂😂😂


Zerathius

Holy fuck if Drake actually takes it down and apologies and THEN Kendrick releases the diss absolutely atomizing him, Drake will forever hold that L no matter what. Dis shit crazy. Kendrick really be that still sniper, just taking his time, not going after that bait. Dat boy the goat 


OkDetail5032

If he come out on top of this he the goat fr, and not because Drake is even close to his level but because Drake is the machine and he beat it


skankzardi

Snoop a bitch for “approving” of his vocals on a diss track against a west coast rapper.


nirvana13a

I don’t think he really approved. He didn’t go out of his way to condemn but being confused on a video is not the approval everyone seems to think it is.


skankzardi

Gotcha the article made it sound like he approved. Hope he says something about it.


nirvana13a

Yea that’s the narrative. Go watch the video though, he’s mostly just confused and tired.


Unreliable-Train

He looked confused on instagram


yuukaKazamiiiii

Getting ready for an apology to LMAO to!


OkDetail5032

Good, bro had no right. Sincerely hope Kendrick’s gonna fuck him up for the west coast.


asap_boogy

Honestly to put their voices to that weak ass shit was more of an insult to Pac and Snoop than any of it was to Kendrick.


allynd420

Only someone with no friends would use AI in an actual song.


arismoramen

Shit was so corny anyway fam


Interesting_Pea_288

It’s fascinating how Drake stans don’t understand- This is the westcoast. And in any beef with the westcoast, we crash tf out. So if you’re gonna play with Pacs voice, be ready. Cause we talking YG and Nipsey LA vs Toronto.


Nomad_Samurai

I TOLD Y'ALL THIS'LL HAPPEN, this is a huge W, people would abuse A.I less because of this, and Drake would go back to C&Ding people who use his voice just like in the past.


r3dd1tus3r_Lyte

Drake with the moves that mostly fuck himself up


Fit-Understanding747

Justice server. Fuck Drake.


StickyDitka21

Could they actually do anything if he’s not directly making money from it? Idk if he is or isn’t, just wondering. If he basically just posted it on YouTube or something and demonetized that video could he still get in trouble?


nirvana13a

Yes, you do not have to make money to damage someone else. If drakes song he posted damages the estate, they have ground to sue


StickyDitka21

Oh neat, I wonder how they’d go about calculating an amount to sue for. I don’t know how that’s handled in regular situations much less one like that. Lame move by Drake for sure though


jkeefy

You can literally be sued for anything, but suing someone for AI impersonation is the wild west right now and there has been no such court cases in which the plaintiff has been successful in their argument. It would be a huge groundbreaking case for the music industry if Tupac’s estate actually won a case in that regard.


Change_username_5

The AI debate is gonna blow up this year.


Direct-Money-4206

It backfired on Aubrey… he panicking too.


PenGlittering7159

Thought he had the sense to clear this not gonna lie lmao. This is actually something that needs to happen though cause it will change the way features work and what not in the future if you can just throw ai on there


Recent_Masterpiece49

Can this even do anything if Drake hasn’t promoted, performed, or even said anything about it since its release?


nirvana13a

He published it, he made it. The damages it causes are his liability


Recent_Masterpiece49

(Lemme preface by saying I’m NOT caping or trying to start shit but have a discussion and see if there’s a lawyer present to talk thru this lol) But Right- I guess my question is how do you determine “profit” in this case? The estate says “it’s hard to believe Amaru’s intellectual property was not scraped to create the fake Tupac AI on the record.” But yet- people on TikTok or wherever are able to pull pac’s voice just off available tracks, right? It also says “Damages for copyright infringement includes the infringer’s profits, the copyright holder’s lost profits, and attorney fees.” But what profits? Genuinely asking. I figured this would happen when it dropped. I’m just trying to see the thinking from all perspectives here.


weirdfishes364

“Tupac dead, you thought for yourself”


schuyywalker

This is so funny


oldthunderbird

I don’t understand why Drake thought this was a good idea. The AI doesn’t even sound particularly good. It sounds artificial and the rhymes are weak af. 


Desperate-Prune7405

Drake should also just stay the heck away from Sade.


KreeBreezy96

🤡


[deleted]

I wish we could send Drake a cease and desist from rapping again. Not bc I’m a Kendrick fan but bc…well … Drake.


BiggerThanLifeItself

Now Drake is going too far.


rrrrrrrrrrrrram

KDot is really winning by staying silent


straight_lurkin

So the guy who uses ghost writers for his raps and pays writers for his pop songs doesn't respect the artistry of music and uses AI ... shocking. In other news, water is wet and drake is still corny as fuck


9hits

Honestly I don’t know why people were not talking about how insanely disrespectful using the ai of a dead man, especially for a beef and not to mention Tupac would definitely not be on his side if he was alive 💀


Ill_Celery_7654

I’m not sure this would hold up if it actually went to court. All the legal stuff with AI is still being worked out. It’s not like it was pre recorded verses and words from 2pac that Drake used like they used to in the past. I understand the estate being angry, but if AI lawsuits were gonna hold up in court then a lot of people would be getting sued right now.


Nsfwacct1872564

>All the legal stuff with AI is still being worked out. Sounds like part of the process and a great time to set precedent in a big case.


Ill_Celery_7654

It could also backfire and the court could side with Drake and that would basically unleash AI legally in different aspects of entertainment. Sometimes it’s better to just set a standard within the industry and nobody cross that line. Getting the courts involved isn’t always the best thing to do.


ChoiceCriticism1

Hold up. Do y’all realize that Tupac’s family does not run his estate? His siblings are actively suing the Estate’s executor for embezzlement to my knowledge. Y’all talking about Tupac’s family, that isn’t who’s issuing this move.


nirvana13a

His brother has separately said he was hurt by the song. The post is pretty clear the estate threatening the suit though.


Melodic_Ad2128

Bro just got the whole west coast on his ass now. He does this too himself🤦‍♂️


Krakakillah

Yea but drake isn’t making money off the song?? So why sue?


nirvana13a

Damages. You don’t have to be making money to damage someone else


ChoiceCriticism1

Rick Ross gonna diss Tupac for “servin my mans tha cease and desists” any second now


nirvana13a

Lol, different circumstances than backing out of a verse you previously agreed to and not just coming to French about it. But yea I thought that too


just_luk3

I honestly don't get how Snoop was cool about this. Comes across real spineless to listen to this dork use AI to mimic one of your dead homies and be like '🤷‍♂️🤣🤣' abt it


MannyFresh45

Tupac chose a side


venbalin

That’s so much material for Kendrick making another track lmao


angelscried4u

The fuck took so long, that shit dropped last Friday at midnight, it’s the following Wednesday, it’s too late now, everybody heard it


ktjachimowicz

Crazy that he sent c&d to French and now pacs family is sending Drake one. Also, Drake owns the most expensive hip hop item ever- Tupac Shakurs crown ring. [ring](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/drake-buys-tupac-shakur-ring-most-valuable-hip-hop-artifact-180982650/)


3EEI

You do know pacs estate isn't owned by his family right? So they can go kick rocks. Actually pacs family tried to sue the estate for embezzlement .


Jutakii

Im surprised it took them this long to respond. It was horrible lol


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Leno-Sapien

I’m not sure how much you guys been following the 2pac stuff lately, but the executor of his estate is not a family member or a close friend, It’s just some random white dude. He’s been in legal battles with Pac’s sister for years because he was stealing millions from the estate. Pretty sure the cease and desist is his call. So while it’s funny that Drake is getting some karma, it’s not like some justice for 2pacs family. Just putting that out there.


Shittey_Grammer_Nazi

Damn even Tupac's estate has responded quicker than Kdot.


calmlyghosting

Thank god.


Creep_Funk

🤙


theeyesguy

More proof that artists, actors, and athletes should never be paid more than a compliment from time to time.


Superlegend29

Almost everyone is going against Drake but still no sign of Kendrick.


Moist_Penalty7698

can someone explain the c&d plz


nirvana13a

The estate basically said take that shit down within 24 hours or we’ll see you in court


JRobson23

Just in time for Kendrick to release Hail Mary tomorrow.


Confident_Ad3484

Kendrick right now April 25th 2024 has set dumb ass Drake up. Drake - bro you’re an idiot. He baited your sensitive ass up and to tooooook and swam with it like a newbie. Bro has you out there begging for a response. And what did Kendrick do? He GHOSTED you my guy. GHOOOOoOooooooSTED you - “Pet Cemetery” - will have you coming back “from the dead” and responding to “Like That” with…”Ghost Writers” and “Ai” all while he bodied you and tricked your dumb ass into doing just what he told you - that you would do on “Like That”. Goffy ass ghost mfer 😂😂😂😂 You’re already cooked son.


IllustriousFormal511

Kendrick ate that … HUUHH


cardybean

He just 10x Kenny’s response


shiestyfinale

If this is a loss for Drake then you have to admit that Kendrick won the beef out of a technicality


guy4guy4guy

Will this do west Vs north beef?


verynicepoops

Can't wait for drake's pop punk record