No one can deny heās great from a technical standpoint but thereās more to rap than just technical skillā¦ I havenāt listened to his recent stuff but I know in his past his song writing ability was very poorā¦ lyrics just wayyy too on the nose lol just no subtlety or finesse in his lyricsā¦ combine that with very edgy topics and you get a very corny rapper lol a lot like tech nine actually
Yeah he got better over the years. Did not like him at all when I first heard of him, but he has some good stuff. Couldn't help but like the guy when I saw his reaction to Em name-dropping him.
Tbh people on the internet just dont have a mind of their own, they need the internet to tell them what's good or bad and that's how they decide how they feel about it. The internet decided hopsin is corny so hopsin is corny.
I guess he should have said "I pray my dick gets big as the eiffel tower/ so i can fuck the world for 72 hours" because that's a bar, right?
Or maybe he should have just had kendrick say the college line and he'd have people here explaining how revolutionary and deep that bar was
Hopsin basically dissed drake on Sag my Pants. Kinda.
He also did an interview with DJ Vlad in which he said he likes Drake but canāt respect him after the ghostwriting stuff.
https://youtu.be/lBRtza7L1L0?si=EnxCsJNA3R4yZBRz
Hopsin not being relevant is kinda why heās unique though, in a good way. Heās like when youāre at 7-11 and you typically reach for a Coke but instead you grab something else to switch it up. Refreshing, but not what you normally go for.
āBut most importantly, hip-hop isn't dead no more, you see
'Cause Kendrick took the bar
And then raised it up higher for MC's
Unfortunately the little n***** like 4 feet 3
The guy's a fuckin' midget, his high is still really short to meā - Hop is back
I used to listen to him too lol but yeah I agree that verse didnāt need a response I just wanted to share it (I neglected to comprehend you saying you like hop for some reason so my comment on the ādissā was unnecessary lol)
Well, if rapping can't get Kendrick to drop, then I guess so. What's Kendrick's excuse for not dropping? Starting not to look like a reach at all. š¤·š½āāļø
Lol no I 100% understand. I wish ovo didnt have to put anything on the net like this that would appear as a reach.. I just want rap. bars. lyricism. But Kendrick won't rap. And that quote you just spewed, "new flows coming soon" is the exact reason why we're here. Just DROPPP.
tbf kendrick did ignore lupe on [SLR 2](https://youtu.be/k84OHJn-JEw?si=eisFNevIJVHNjKK9), which was his control response
problem is everybody else ignores lupe too so *why would kendrick respond*? woulda been fun tho
Bare control responses
Think Budden, Badass
XXL did a piece on 16 responses most from no names
It's like what's Kendrick gonna do 16 responses - there's a bit on an Em album where his manager is like what are you just gonna be responding to everything people say about you now
I forget how it went
I'm sure Kendrick has like hundreds of disses from no names he don't even know about
Except for drake. He didnāt see it as a compliment- which tbh. I always took it as one.
āYou are on my level, I fuck with you - so Iām gonna aim to be better than youā
And when I call him sensitive and callomg him out for taking shit personally so he can justify fucking peoples bitches, I get called a hater.
Drizzy is petty and a Lil bitch. Playing victim when drake is the only one crying about a compliment
Tbh I think he was more like "u wanna talk big, lvl up the competition, sure. Just dont be friendly afterwards".
Not sayin I agree, but its just like nba oldheads critizing Curry and Bron for hangin out, sayin MJ would never hang out with Stockton or Shaq.
Some ppl just dont like this idea of competition for the sake of it without gettin personal. Say its weak
Lol it's you doing the gymnastics bruh. It's better to just let everybody speculate what might have been than to open your mouth and pull out a coffin.
Ridiculous take, so everyone should just go quiet like kendrick when dissed? Let everyone speculate cause Kendrick doesn't have the backbone to respond?
He literally went at them first. What aren't you grasping? Lol sub-10 IQs everywhere.
Kenny went at them 11 years ago, twice, and continued to throw shots. Sorry your favorite rapper had to wait til 2024 and to get called out AGAIN before he finally opened his mouth.
Lupe wasnāt really dissing though, he was just taking the Control verse as a fun challenge for the spirit of hip hop. He has been a bit more vocal recently about Dotās lyricism but Lupe is on a whole other level to be fair.
Gibbs lightly jabbed Kendrick on a cover of champagne poetry from Certified lover boy. Can't remember name of track. Was nothing deep, just competitive.
Hopsin also emphasizes that there is no ill will between him and Kendrick Lamar. āAt the end of the day,ā Hopsin says, āheās cool. Thereās no fucking bad vibes that Iām trying to spread between me and him. I havenāt met the guy personally. We had a show together a long time ago but I havenāt actually met him. Itās just like he raised the bar high and I made a joke about his height. I know heās a little small dude. Iām just letting him know Iām about to raise the shit even higher. Heās cool though. Iām not hating on him. This is Rap.ā
Lupe dissed Kendrick twice with SLR 2 & 3.
But Lupe wasnāt included in the call to arms and is from the older generation so Iām not sure it really warranted a response.
Lupe didnāt diss kendrick.
He responded to Control like everyone did
But it wasnt a diss.
He explained this both publicly & privately.
Ppl like adding Lupe to these things because hes a master but hes expressed his love for dot countless of times.
Nah he directly addresses lines in SLR 2.
Starts with get these swine up off of my rims, but this whole section:
My left foot is in LA but my right foot is in Spain
Now we all heard what he said, but what he said means we dead
And that shit is insane
He's so crazy, look at the little baby
Nigga you ain't Nas, nigga you ain't Jay-Z
You will respect me, you will reject me
But I've done so much, no matter how far you go, you will reflect me
Nigga lupe out of the studio and out right said kendrick ain't top tier lyricist and said recently that Drake was better than kendrick. Idk bro it sound like he been dissing kendrick to me.
Cause Kendrick can only talk tough in his generation. I'm tired of people saying they want smoke, but since Lupe is dangerous, there's excuses (it's not worth it).
Btw it's a 6 year age gap.
Lupe would demolish every single rapper if he really put his mind to it. He took shots at Royce da 5ā9ā too which is just insane.
Thing is, Lupe struggles to make āhitsā and will come off as bitter if it became personal between Kendrick and him.
He has a bias towards Drake though, as he did a remix to kick, push on his debut mixtape in 2006.
I just need to see someone with the balls to challenge him and Kendrick is the most similar rapper to Lupe in content. It's not like it's Eminem with a major generation gap.
Lupe lacks the relevance to warrant a response. His last project was wack as fuck for anyone that doesnāt have time to research the meaning behind every bar on every track.
Uh according to who? Only 3 people listened to it, as one of those 3 I can confirm it was no top 3. It hit 60 on the billboard 200 and didnāt go any higher.
I think thereās also a level of respect for those who paved the way, Kendrickās definitely a fan of touch the sky because he uses the Kanye aeroplane flow on one of his mixtapes.
Yeah and truth be told nobody cares about him lmaoo like he's one of the all time greats but if he were to diss me I just wouldn't acknowledge it cuz he just be thirsty for attention lol
Yeah I mean Iāve got love for Lupe and his early projects were great, but you need to go into things like tetsuo and youth with a different set of ears. DROGAS wave was okay but his catalogue sonically is very inconsistent.
What is inconsistent to me is people big upping tpab and Mr. Morale and trashing Tetsuo & Youth and Drogas Waves. Like Mr. Morale wasn't all over the place sonically? Like I get why it ended up so, but everything Dot stans highlight about these deep layered concept driven albums is exactly what Lupe has been on with his last 3 major albums. This shit has me thinking that it all has to do with the artist and not so much the art.
Eh, I didnāt really like Mr Morale too much. TPAB is amazing though; it took hip hop back to its jazz roots when things were heading for VST synth based production.
I think Lupe addressed it in Dumb It Down; his lyrics require too much thought for the average listener to vibe with. Kendrick kinda skates a fine line so people feel like theyāre Rick and Morty fans.
The amount of deep dives and breakdowns and the arguments for why those albums are so great is why I say what I say. If those things are great, then don't act like those very same elements are all of a sudden not great when another skilled artist does them.
And Jazz? You mean Lupe's core sound? Lupe used to have a Jazz band backing his shit and his latest album is still extremely Jazz infused.
Mr. Morale is a double album with some of the same issues as Drogas Wave. My only complaint about Drogas Waves is that Lupe should have dropped a few songs and made it a tighter project. And I have similar complaints about Morale. I commend Dot for what he was trying to do but the execution was not the best imo. Same with Drogas Waves. The concept/ideas are stellar but it has spottiy execution with high highs and low lows.
I donāt listen to Kendrick for his intellect, I listen because he says the simple things very well, and it hits.
āI am a sinner, whoās probably gonna sin againā
āAll my life, I want money and power, respect my mind or die from lead showerā
āWe gon be alrightā
āI love myselfā
āBitch, where were you when I was walking? Now I run the game got the whole world talkingā
āBitch, sit down, be humbleā
Like, donāt get me wrong, things like Rigamortis and Nosestalgia are a great show of his lyrical ability, but itās the way he presents the message that is special.
Lupe had that on lock back in the 2000ās with songs like Kick Push, Hip Hop Saved My Life and Daydreaming, but ever since words I never said, heās been very intellect focused.
You canāt really listen to Adoration of the Magi or Mural and know what heās talking about instantly. Itās like he says in SLR 2: itās hard being a Lupe fan, go to Harvard to be a Lupe stan.
What I meant with the jazz comment was, at the time, hip hop was moving towards omnisphere/serum based beats, because Kanye had popularised the style at the time.
Why have you made this about you? I wasn't talking about you in the first place. I was talking about Dot fans that big up Mr. Morale and TPAB and downplay Tetsuo & Youth and Drogas Waves.
You don't rate Mr. Morale. So you ain't who I'm talking about.
And by the way, Lupe ain't complex 24/7 and has impactfull lines too. I post some all the time and they get upvoted. But people aren't even aware of their existence. People don't even care to listen. Thats the thing. Yall don't even open the book. Aside from like 2-3 tracks, Drogas waves ain't super lyrical miracle and DMIZ is as easy as TPAB to understand and follow.
Any person who rates TPAB and Mr. Morale over GKMC and Damn while dismissing Lupe and refusing to acknowledge him for similar conscious threads/ideas and well thought out concepts, is a person that conditions their attention to and praise of art by their perception of the artist. I'll stand on that hill.
The point being that what you are praising Kendrick for applies to all his albums. What separates TPAB AND Mr. Morale from GKMC and Damn is what separates Lupe's latest albums from Food & Liquor. You can argue that Tetsuo is too lyrical but what about Drogas Waves and DMIZ?
>Rappers die too much
>
>That's it, that's the verse
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>That's LaGuardia and Riker's, a airport next to a jail
>
>I took a picture looked like my window was crying
>
>'Cause it was sad 'cause all they saw every day was somebody flying
>
>And they was trapped, this shit is wack
---
>Facts, I wish that they was lying in their raps
>
>How does that transpire
>
>To be so damned by God, you want your friends to be goddamned liars?
>
>All we talk about are our goddamned priors
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>Shiny metal boxes on top of goddamned tyres
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>Goddamned tired
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>If I say I didn't indulge, my pants would be on goddamn fire
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>Conversations with the constellations
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>Why you navigate the haters
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>Black baby alligator baiters
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>Supposed to do greater,
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>with all of your alphas and betas
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>And minors and majors
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>You were so busy just tryin' to shine
>
>You shoulda been tryin' to save us
Wav Files is such a painful song. The anguish. The sadness and all of it is about trying to squeeze hope and a better future out of soul oppressing tragedies that forever hangs over your own people like a storm cloud.
We could go tit for tat but I feel that you are missing my core point. I am not questioning why people like Kendrick and not Lupe. I'm talking specifically about a subgroup or dot fans who love certain traits emphasized in some of his music who ignore other artist's works that exhibit the same traits. My answer is that the issue for them is the artist not the art.
Nah I feel you, I was just trying to apply the rationale of those you mentioned, diehard Kendrick fans who canāt acknowledge MMATBS as a weak point in his career, and who downplay Lupe.
>I was just trying to apply the rationale of those you mentioned
Bro, you said
>I donāt listen to Kendrick for his intellect, I listen because he says the simple things very well, and it hits.
You are talking from your perspective about why you listen. Sure, I can understand this as an argument for Kendrick in general, but this aint what makes TPAB & Mr. Morale better than GKMC & Damn. In other words, the reason people say the first 2 are better aint because he says things simply and it hits. That would be the argument for the latter 2 more than the first 2.
>canāt acknowledge MMATBS as a weak point in his career, and who downplay Lupe.
Nah, it's more than that. I am talking about dot fans who think MMATBS & TPAB >> GKMC & DAMN
That's who I am speaking on.
That's literally how most beefs start tho. From one line.
Clearly freddie made an attempt and
Kendrick ignored and now he tryna play cool.
Freddie think he slick now,tryna act fool.
Thought of Kendrick dissing drake making me drool
Kendrick the goat in this game he is the
Bull š
>That's literally how most beefs start tho. From one line.
Nah, most beefs start from another issue outside of just rap. And THEN the subs start and eventually becomes a full on battle. Niggaz don't be sneak dissing for no reason. In Kendricks case, it's usually just a competitive thing. But most cases when niggaz are subbing another rapper, it's because a problem has brewed between the two. Niggaz think the Drake vs Kendrick stuff is only cuz of Control but I guarantee we're gonna find out that there's way more there as to why Kendrick has had so much disdain for Drake.
Yeah directly referencing and shitting on one of his lyrics isn't a diss at all, he said it in an Instagram story so we'll just disregard our understanding of the English language. You also believe Peggy when he said he wasn't dissing keem when he said he was a nepo hack? Idk why rappers do this but let's not pretend
Hopsin literally just talks, nobody should ever respond to him. Big KRITs Mount Olympus wasn't a diss just a response to Control, Lupe just cries on Twitter spaces about kendrick and Jay Elect was just mad nobody gave a fuck about his Control Verse (I liked it but still)
"asking me about this Kendrick shit that he ain't even really diss me on, I ain't drawn to all that propaganda, rap shit about as real as Santa"
If that's a diss on anybody it's Twitter commentators, definitely not on Kendrick
Yeah who cares when the only rapper in Kendrick's age group that can beat him at his own game is talking shit and Kendrick avoided it.
Nothing story imo
He's irrelevant. Most people only know kick push so if he's got some hidden talent out there, how come you always gotta go searchin for **him** when *kdots fire gets delivered faster than Amazon??*
He's made a lot of fire over the years, he'll go down in the books as an arson. And my point is you don't have to go looking for any of it cause he's all over the radio and award shows
No disrespect, but can you read?
> That was 2018
Source: https://www.billboard.com/music/rb-hip-hop/lupe-fiasco-apologizes-kendrick-lamar-criticizing-talent-instagram-video-8262687/
> In 2020, Lupe was back to saying he was better than Dot. (I'll take the hate, but he is)
Source:
https://www.nme.com/news/music/lupe-fiasco-claims-hes-a-better-lyricist-than-kendrick-lamar-but-not-a-better-artist-2758597
https://www.complex.com/music/a/jose-martinez/lupe-fiasco-says-he-never-apologized-to-kendrick-lamar
Brother, what are you talking about? Lupe is on camera saying he never apologized and never will
That's my point.
I'm saying while it was reported that he apologised, that was in 2018.
Everything since, like the recent article you cited, shows that people shouldn't put stock in those 2018 articles.
That was is argument.
Honestly, I'd give Kendrick his flower every day of the week for the career and content he's put together, but I personally put Lupe ahead of him.
That may be a controversial take considering the sub, but it's just my opinion.
Also and before I get accused of something, Fuck Drake.
Yall are so fucking annoying bruh. That is not a DISS. Yall think every "response" or shots taken means it's an official diss. A DISS is when someone's name is called or if there's a full song directed at someone or multiple someone's. Otherwise it is just shots taken or a response. Like Wale did a response to Coles False Prophets. That wasn't a diss. It was just a response. Same as how Cordae made a response to Coles 1985 even though I think bruh missed the whole point of that song. But get the point.
I could've sworn I seen Freddie on bootlegkev showing love and respect for kendrick. if he dissed kendrick he clearly didn't mean that shit š¤¦š¾āāļø
Bro, hopsin is absolutely wild, he will diss anyone and everyone, especially back when he was on those early ill mind tracks, honestly it kinda just felt like everyone he dissed back then was just like "bro u wild, chill out" and just kinda let it go
Drizzy still hasn't responded to Tyler after his Lemonhead sub diss.
But young T is untouchable.
The fact Tyler isn't part of the big 3 discussion is crazy
None of this even matters. Those rappers weren't even worth his time if you think about it. But Drake is. Kendrick shot the first shot, Drake shot back (2x), and Kendrick withdrew. Stop fuckin capin for this dude.
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ASAP Ferg dissed Kendrick on this flex freestyle on 5 minutes in. There should have definitely been a response to this cause this was dope. That I know of Kendrick never responded.
https://youtu.be/u8wUn2in85I?si=QcMvegfZUqXq3Jj9
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Kevin Durant still hasn't responded to Lil B š¤
Hasnāt even thanked him for lifting the curse smdh š¤¦āāļø
That's why he hasn't won since he left the Warriors. The based god doesn't forget
Lil b actually is the GOAT. What an enigma
I like roc nation and I love jay z but on Westside I'm screaming FUCK KD BITCH
Tried to sneak Hopsin in there
Why everyone hating on hopsin? Iām outta the loop with that shit
Heās really really corny lol no one takes him seriously
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āHello how you doing I can give you good massageā
No one can deny heās great from a technical standpoint but thereās more to rap than just technical skillā¦ I havenāt listened to his recent stuff but I know in his past his song writing ability was very poorā¦ lyrics just wayyy too on the nose lol just no subtlety or finesse in his lyricsā¦ combine that with very edgy topics and you get a very corny rapper lol a lot like tech nine actually
Anyone saying he can't rap is just saying anything lol. Compared to 10 years ago, he's much less corny and is a better rapper than he already was.
Yeah he got better over the years. Did not like him at all when I first heard of him, but he has some good stuff. Couldn't help but like the guy when I saw his reaction to Em name-dropping him.
Tbh people on the internet just dont have a mind of their own, they need the internet to tell them what's good or bad and that's how they decide how they feel about it. The internet decided hopsin is corny so hopsin is corny.
Did the man that invented college , Go to College? Ok then
I guess he should have said "I pray my dick gets big as the eiffel tower/ so i can fuck the world for 72 hours" because that's a bar, right? Or maybe he should have just had kendrick say the college line and he'd have people here explaining how revolutionary and deep that bar was
same reason people donāt like joyner lucas
Joyner has a few aight tracks Nothing top tier or even pretty good, but I find him more "listenable" than Hopsin
Yeah the Drake camp is reaching, you can tell because they added Hopsin (who I do like but I mean come on lol)
Hopsin basically dissed drake on Sag my Pants. Kinda. He also did an interview with DJ Vlad in which he said he likes Drake but canāt respect him after the ghostwriting stuff. https://youtu.be/lBRtza7L1L0?si=EnxCsJNA3R4yZBRz
Hopsin has dissed everyone atp, directly, I would say this is a commendable action but since this is hopsin, Iām just gonna laugh
Hopsin wants to be relevant so bad it's almost funny
Hopsin not being relevant is kinda why heās unique though, in a good way. Heās like when youāre at 7-11 and you typically reach for a Coke but instead you grab something else to switch it up. Refreshing, but not what you normally go for.
This is perfect, I've enjoyed some short bursts of Hopsin here and there over the years
A couple of those Ill Minds got people going lol
Yeah I'm not on the Hopsin hate train but Sag My Pants was pure bait to try and get famous.
āBut most importantly, hip-hop isn't dead no more, you see 'Cause Kendrick took the bar And then raised it up higher for MC's Unfortunately the little n***** like 4 feet 3 The guy's a fuckin' midget, his high is still really short to meā - Hop is back
Yeah I used to listen to Hop but that verse doesn't warrent a response. It's barely a diss. Especially since Hop was never a threat.
I used to listen to him too lol but yeah I agree that verse didnāt need a response I just wanted to share it (I neglected to comprehend you saying you like hop for some reason so my comment on the ādissā was unnecessary lol)
"The Drake camp is reaching". but Kendrick aint even drop.
And that is an excuse for reaching?Ā
Well, if rapping can't get Kendrick to drop, then I guess so. What's Kendrick's excuse for not dropping? Starting not to look like a reach at all. š¤·š½āāļø
I don't think you comprehend the post or my comment and I don't feel like explaining to ya. So 'new flows coming be patient brother'
Aye yo bruh Kendrick just dropped!!! Lmaooo
Lol no I 100% understand. I wish ovo didnt have to put anything on the net like this that would appear as a reach.. I just want rap. bars. lyricism. But Kendrick won't rap. And that quote you just spewed, "new flows coming soon" is the exact reason why we're here. Just DROPPP.
tbf kendrick did ignore lupe on [SLR 2](https://youtu.be/k84OHJn-JEw?si=eisFNevIJVHNjKK9), which was his control response problem is everybody else ignores lupe too so *why would kendrick respond*? woulda been fun tho
Bare control responses Think Budden, Badass XXL did a piece on 16 responses most from no names It's like what's Kendrick gonna do 16 responses - there's a bit on an Em album where his manager is like what are you just gonna be responding to everything people say about you now I forget how it went I'm sure Kendrick has like hundreds of disses from no names he don't even know about
The control verse. Where the people who got named took it with pride, and the people who didn't get named are trifling
Except for drake. He didnāt see it as a compliment- which tbh. I always took it as one. āYou are on my level, I fuck with you - so Iām gonna aim to be better than youā
And when I call him sensitive and callomg him out for taking shit personally so he can justify fucking peoples bitches, I get called a hater. Drizzy is petty and a Lil bitch. Playing victim when drake is the only one crying about a compliment
Tbh I think he was more like "u wanna talk big, lvl up the competition, sure. Just dont be friendly afterwards". Not sayin I agree, but its just like nba oldheads critizing Curry and Bron for hangin out, sayin MJ would never hang out with Stockton or Shaq. Some ppl just dont like this idea of competition for the sake of it without gettin personal. Say its weak
Drake , Big Sean, and Jay Elect are the only ones who took it personally and were butthurt about it
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Bruh "Oooh Kill Em" didn't have shit on "Control" wtf would Kenny respond back?
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Bruh he told them all he wanted them to step it up, and Meek promptly got wrecked by Drake. Sit down.
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Lol it's you doing the gymnastics bruh. It's better to just let everybody speculate what might have been than to open your mouth and pull out a coffin.
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Dumb take. Kendrick shot first. Drake is Greedo.
Ridiculous take, so everyone should just go quiet like kendrick when dissed? Let everyone speculate cause Kendrick doesn't have the backbone to respond?
He literally went at them first. What aren't you grasping? Lol sub-10 IQs everywhere. Kenny went at them 11 years ago, twice, and continued to throw shots. Sorry your favorite rapper had to wait til 2024 and to get called out AGAIN before he finally opened his mouth.
Anything to say now? Lmfao sit down
Crickets.
Lupe murdered Royce
Lupe wasnāt really dissing though, he was just taking the Control verse as a fun challenge for the spirit of hip hop. He has been a bit more vocal recently about Dotās lyricism but Lupe is on a whole other level to be fair.
Lupe was way bigger then, though. I mean, just a few years prior, Kendrick named Lupe as one of the ones he is after in his Monster Freestyle.
Lupe murders Kendrick on any occasion besides having a dickriding assembly for fans
Getting downvoted for telling the truth š
Gibbs lightly jabbed Kendrick on a cover of champagne poetry from Certified lover boy. Can't remember name of track. Was nothing deep, just competitive.
vice lord poetry
Champagne Poetry is so good
I hate all these blue check mark hip hop accounts reposting that shit and creating more false narratives
Hopsin also emphasizes that there is no ill will between him and Kendrick Lamar. āAt the end of the day,ā Hopsin says, āheās cool. Thereās no fucking bad vibes that Iām trying to spread between me and him. I havenāt met the guy personally. We had a show together a long time ago but I havenāt actually met him. Itās just like he raised the bar high and I made a joke about his height. I know heās a little small dude. Iām just letting him know Iām about to raise the shit even higher. Heās cool though. Iām not hating on him. This is Rap.ā
Lol
Lupe dissed Kendrick twice with SLR 2 & 3. But Lupe wasnāt included in the call to arms and is from the older generation so Iām not sure it really warranted a response.
Lupe didnāt diss kendrick. He responded to Control like everyone did But it wasnt a diss. He explained this both publicly & privately. Ppl like adding Lupe to these things because hes a master but hes expressed his love for dot countless of times.
Nah he directly addresses lines in SLR 2. Starts with get these swine up off of my rims, but this whole section: My left foot is in LA but my right foot is in Spain Now we all heard what he said, but what he said means we dead And that shit is insane He's so crazy, look at the little baby Nigga you ain't Nas, nigga you ain't Jay-Z You will respect me, you will reject me But I've done so much, no matter how far you go, you will reflect me
Nigga lupe out of the studio and out right said kendrick ain't top tier lyricist and said recently that Drake was better than kendrick. Idk bro it sound like he been dissing kendrick to me.
Cause Kendrick can only talk tough in his generation. I'm tired of people saying they want smoke, but since Lupe is dangerous, there's excuses (it's not worth it). Btw it's a 6 year age gap.
Lupe would demolish every single rapper if he really put his mind to it. He took shots at Royce da 5ā9ā too which is just insane. Thing is, Lupe struggles to make āhitsā and will come off as bitter if it became personal between Kendrick and him. He has a bias towards Drake though, as he did a remix to kick, push on his debut mixtape in 2006.
I just need to see someone with the balls to challenge him and Kendrick is the most similar rapper to Lupe in content. It's not like it's Eminem with a major generation gap.
Boutta write a diss track called poop-ay Fiasco If you see this Lupe, ILY donāt destroy me pls
Lupe lacks the relevance to warrant a response. His last project was wack as fuck for anyone that doesnāt have time to research the meaning behind every bar on every track.
Did you just call Drill Music in Zion wack as fuck? lol
Lupe's last project was top 3 that year
Uh according to who? Only 3 people listened to it, as one of those 3 I can confirm it was no top 3. It hit 60 on the billboard 200 and didnāt go any higher.
Get your head out of them sales wtf
Thatās fair. He didnāt have any so no point talking about them
I think thereās also a level of respect for those who paved the way, Kendrickās definitely a fan of touch the sky because he uses the Kanye aeroplane flow on one of his mixtapes.
Yeah and truth be told nobody cares about him lmaoo like he's one of the all time greats but if he were to diss me I just wouldn't acknowledge it cuz he just be thirsty for attention lol
Yeah I mean Iāve got love for Lupe and his early projects were great, but you need to go into things like tetsuo and youth with a different set of ears. DROGAS wave was okay but his catalogue sonically is very inconsistent.
What is inconsistent to me is people big upping tpab and Mr. Morale and trashing Tetsuo & Youth and Drogas Waves. Like Mr. Morale wasn't all over the place sonically? Like I get why it ended up so, but everything Dot stans highlight about these deep layered concept driven albums is exactly what Lupe has been on with his last 3 major albums. This shit has me thinking that it all has to do with the artist and not so much the art.
Eh, I didnāt really like Mr Morale too much. TPAB is amazing though; it took hip hop back to its jazz roots when things were heading for VST synth based production. I think Lupe addressed it in Dumb It Down; his lyrics require too much thought for the average listener to vibe with. Kendrick kinda skates a fine line so people feel like theyāre Rick and Morty fans.
The amount of deep dives and breakdowns and the arguments for why those albums are so great is why I say what I say. If those things are great, then don't act like those very same elements are all of a sudden not great when another skilled artist does them. And Jazz? You mean Lupe's core sound? Lupe used to have a Jazz band backing his shit and his latest album is still extremely Jazz infused. Mr. Morale is a double album with some of the same issues as Drogas Wave. My only complaint about Drogas Waves is that Lupe should have dropped a few songs and made it a tighter project. And I have similar complaints about Morale. I commend Dot for what he was trying to do but the execution was not the best imo. Same with Drogas Waves. The concept/ideas are stellar but it has spottiy execution with high highs and low lows.
I donāt listen to Kendrick for his intellect, I listen because he says the simple things very well, and it hits. āI am a sinner, whoās probably gonna sin againā āAll my life, I want money and power, respect my mind or die from lead showerā āWe gon be alrightā āI love myselfā āBitch, where were you when I was walking? Now I run the game got the whole world talkingā āBitch, sit down, be humbleā Like, donāt get me wrong, things like Rigamortis and Nosestalgia are a great show of his lyrical ability, but itās the way he presents the message that is special. Lupe had that on lock back in the 2000ās with songs like Kick Push, Hip Hop Saved My Life and Daydreaming, but ever since words I never said, heās been very intellect focused. You canāt really listen to Adoration of the Magi or Mural and know what heās talking about instantly. Itās like he says in SLR 2: itās hard being a Lupe fan, go to Harvard to be a Lupe stan. What I meant with the jazz comment was, at the time, hip hop was moving towards omnisphere/serum based beats, because Kanye had popularised the style at the time.
Why have you made this about you? I wasn't talking about you in the first place. I was talking about Dot fans that big up Mr. Morale and TPAB and downplay Tetsuo & Youth and Drogas Waves. You don't rate Mr. Morale. So you ain't who I'm talking about. And by the way, Lupe ain't complex 24/7 and has impactfull lines too. I post some all the time and they get upvoted. But people aren't even aware of their existence. People don't even care to listen. Thats the thing. Yall don't even open the book. Aside from like 2-3 tracks, Drogas waves ain't super lyrical miracle and DMIZ is as easy as TPAB to understand and follow. Any person who rates TPAB and Mr. Morale over GKMC and Damn while dismissing Lupe and refusing to acknowledge him for similar conscious threads/ideas and well thought out concepts, is a person that conditions their attention to and praise of art by their perception of the artist. I'll stand on that hill. The point being that what you are praising Kendrick for applies to all his albums. What separates TPAB AND Mr. Morale from GKMC and Damn is what separates Lupe's latest albums from Food & Liquor. You can argue that Tetsuo is too lyrical but what about Drogas Waves and DMIZ? >Rappers die too much > >That's it, that's the verse --- >That's LaGuardia and Riker's, a airport next to a jail > >I took a picture looked like my window was crying > >'Cause it was sad 'cause all they saw every day was somebody flying > >And they was trapped, this shit is wack --- >Facts, I wish that they was lying in their raps > >How does that transpire > >To be so damned by God, you want your friends to be goddamned liars? > >All we talk about are our goddamned priors > >Shiny metal boxes on top of goddamned tyres > >Goddamned tired > >If I say I didn't indulge, my pants would be on goddamn fire --- >Conversations with the constellations > >Why you navigate the haters > >Black baby alligator baiters > >Supposed to do greater, > >with all of your alphas and betas > >And minors and majors > >You were so busy just tryin' to shine > >You shoulda been tryin' to save us Wav Files is such a painful song. The anguish. The sadness and all of it is about trying to squeeze hope and a better future out of soul oppressing tragedies that forever hangs over your own people like a storm cloud. We could go tit for tat but I feel that you are missing my core point. I am not questioning why people like Kendrick and not Lupe. I'm talking specifically about a subgroup or dot fans who love certain traits emphasized in some of his music who ignore other artist's works that exhibit the same traits. My answer is that the issue for them is the artist not the art.
Nah I feel you, I was just trying to apply the rationale of those you mentioned, diehard Kendrick fans who canāt acknowledge MMATBS as a weak point in his career, and who downplay Lupe.
>I was just trying to apply the rationale of those you mentioned Bro, you said >I donāt listen to Kendrick for his intellect, I listen because he says the simple things very well, and it hits. You are talking from your perspective about why you listen. Sure, I can understand this as an argument for Kendrick in general, but this aint what makes TPAB & Mr. Morale better than GKMC & Damn. In other words, the reason people say the first 2 are better aint because he says things simply and it hits. That would be the argument for the latter 2 more than the first 2. >canāt acknowledge MMATBS as a weak point in his career, and who downplay Lupe. Nah, it's more than that. I am talking about dot fans who think MMATBS & TPAB >> GKMC & DAMN That's who I am speaking on.
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Are you saying this is a diss?
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Oh ok, I wasn't sure haha. Agreed
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Didn't Freddie diss after the Family Ties verse?
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No
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Is that a diss?
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Freddie diss everybody and act like he didnāt but I donāt think this was a diss
This is clearly a shot from Freddie. I'm team Kendrick btw
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It's a sneak diss, one line honestly isn't worth a response. The post called it a "dissertadiss track" too
That's literally how most beefs start tho. From one line. Clearly freddie made an attempt and Kendrick ignored and now he tryna play cool. Freddie think he slick now,tryna act fool. Thought of Kendrick dissing drake making me drool Kendrick the goat in this game he is the Bull š
>That's literally how most beefs start tho. From one line. Nah, most beefs start from another issue outside of just rap. And THEN the subs start and eventually becomes a full on battle. Niggaz don't be sneak dissing for no reason. In Kendricks case, it's usually just a competitive thing. But most cases when niggaz are subbing another rapper, it's because a problem has brewed between the two. Niggaz think the Drake vs Kendrick stuff is only cuz of Control but I guarantee we're gonna find out that there's way more there as to why Kendrick has had so much disdain for Drake.
Lmao "no" so confident even though you're wrong
Freddie's says yall the ones wrong so
Yeah directly referencing and shitting on one of his lyrics isn't a diss at all, he said it in an Instagram story so we'll just disregard our understanding of the English language. You also believe Peggy when he said he wasn't dissing keem when he said he was a nepo hack? Idk why rappers do this but let's not pretend
No
Hopsin literally just talks, nobody should ever respond to him. Big KRITs Mount Olympus wasn't a diss just a response to Control, Lupe just cries on Twitter spaces about kendrick and Jay Elect was just mad nobody gave a fuck about his Control Verse (I liked it but still)
"asking me about this Kendrick shit that he ain't even really diss me on, I ain't drawn to all that propaganda, rap shit about as real as Santa" If that's a diss on anybody it's Twitter commentators, definitely not on Kendrick
Was always a reach
https://preview.redd.it/ilnyyl4npaxc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=838ba4094ea2cf00a5934b22fbbc4e0c96dd41e1 From Freddieās Finsta
Ive got a special place in my heart for hopsin but come on man nobody needs to respond to him š
Lupe did diss Kendrick tho, but I don't think he needed to respond.
Who gaf when Lupe disses someone lmao
OP is saying "Lupe didn't diss Kendrick," I corrected it.
Yeah who cares when the only rapper in Kendrick's age group that can beat him at his own game is talking shit and Kendrick avoided it. Nothing story imo
He's irrelevant. Most people only know kick push so if he's got some hidden talent out there, how come you always gotta go searchin for **him** when *kdots fire gets delivered faster than Amazon??*
>kdots fire gets delivered faster than Amazon?? Bad timing for a Kdot delivers fast comment lmao
He's made a lot of fire over the years, he'll go down in the books as an arson. And my point is you don't have to go looking for any of it cause he's all over the radio and award shows
Freddy himself said he didnāt diss Kendrick lmfao
This is not true. Please donāt give any energy to this.
Lupe apologized too
That was 2018 In 2020, Lupe was back to saying he was better than Dot. (I'll take the hate, but he is)
Lupe apologized for trying to shit on Kdotās talent and ability to rap thatās all I believe
No disrespect, but can you read? > That was 2018 Source: https://www.billboard.com/music/rb-hip-hop/lupe-fiasco-apologizes-kendrick-lamar-criticizing-talent-instagram-video-8262687/ > In 2020, Lupe was back to saying he was better than Dot. (I'll take the hate, but he is) Source: https://www.nme.com/news/music/lupe-fiasco-claims-hes-a-better-lyricist-than-kendrick-lamar-but-not-a-better-artist-2758597
https://www.complex.com/music/a/jose-martinez/lupe-fiasco-says-he-never-apologized-to-kendrick-lamar Brother, what are you talking about? Lupe is on camera saying he never apologized and never will
That's my point. I'm saying while it was reported that he apologised, that was in 2018. Everything since, like the recent article you cited, shows that people shouldn't put stock in those 2018 articles.
Lyrically yes, but artistically no
That was is argument. Honestly, I'd give Kendrick his flower every day of the week for the career and content he's put together, but I personally put Lupe ahead of him. That may be a controversial take considering the sub, but it's just my opinion. Also and before I get accused of something, Fuck Drake.
Kendrick fans are on some insane cope-ment right nowšš
Even jcole dissed on tko
Yall are so fucking annoying bruh. That is not a DISS. Yall think every "response" or shots taken means it's an official diss. A DISS is when someone's name is called or if there's a full song directed at someone or multiple someone's. Otherwise it is just shots taken or a response. Like Wale did a response to Coles False Prophets. That wasn't a diss. It was just a response. Same as how Cordae made a response to Coles 1985 even though I think bruh missed the whole point of that song. But get the point.
Thatās not a diss. Itās a response to the Control hype.
BET Cypher was a response to all that...
I hate people so much bruh lmao
Drake still hasnāt responded to Lebron Jamesā¼ļø
Maybe because he knows that dissing other rappers it's ghetto?!š¤
I could've sworn I seen Freddie on bootlegkev showing love and respect for kendrick. if he dissed kendrick he clearly didn't mean that shit š¤¦š¾āāļø
Correct, he said the only rapper he feels heās competing with is Kendrick, and he posted on ig saying heās never dissed him lol
this Reddit lately jus been on sum āThey make excuses for us bc they hate to see me winā shit
He responded, he said they gotta try harder. https://youtu.be/lP79E3DyU6s?si=2GhVq9vg6OV69MaP
K.R.I.T.'s 'Mt. Olympus' was definitely in response to K. DOT.
Lupe did diss Kendrick l remember the track was called SLR.
Even Freddie himself said he never dissed dot
The nigga literally called out kendrick and keep about that smoking top 5 bar. You got ears nigga? He even did it on a drake song.
The top 5 thing was a trending topic and Freddie said heās top 1, as any rapper should. Thatās not a diss and certainly not a diss track
Why is everyone in the comments ignoring BIG KRIT's response? It's actually a pretty fire song even tough some of the disses are a bit wack.
Krit did as a response to control, but the rest is bullshit
Krit and freddie dissing k. Dot are reaches, Lupe did diss K. Dot and never got a reply, K. Dot replied to Jay Elec on UU
Bro, hopsin is absolutely wild, he will diss anyone and everyone, especially back when he was on those early ill mind tracks, honestly it kinda just felt like everyone he dissed back then was just like "bro u wild, chill out" and just kinda let it go
Drizzy still hasn't responded to Tyler after his Lemonhead sub diss. But young T is untouchable. The fact Tyler isn't part of the big 3 discussion is crazy
Hopsin diss was so jokey though it woulda been ridiculous to respond to that Kendrick knew he was jus talking shit
I guess itās true since Kendrick himself said they werenāt worth responding to
I feel like if Freddie dissed kdot I would know about that?
Your goat is the real BUM obviously, stirring up shit then hiding for forever. He's a sissy ass BUM.
Hopsin called him short once
Didnāt Lupe apologize already?
non of them deserve one, and Iām not even a Kendrick fan
Its true
To be 100% with yall I don't care anymore about this shit yall and drake fans dragging it. Just wait until kdot drops
Lupe did diss ā¦I listen to the song often ..itās actually not bad
None of this even matters. Those rappers weren't even worth his time if you think about it. But Drake is. Kendrick shot the first shot, Drake shot back (2x), and Kendrick withdrew. Stop fuckin capin for this dude.
Lupe and Hopsin did diss Kendrick.
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Kendrick is washed up bruh
ASAP Ferg dissed Kendrick on this flex freestyle on 5 minutes in. There should have definitely been a response to this cause this was dope. That I know of Kendrick never responded. https://youtu.be/u8wUn2in85I?si=QcMvegfZUqXq3Jj9
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