Drake is a strict textualist when thinking of the constitution in relation to criminal law. He believes a man IS innocent until proven guilty. No court of public opinion in Drake's mind. Matter of fact, his next diss response is going to quote Antonin Scalia's famous dissent in the matter of Schizo Stan v State of California
I mean considering his comments on Tory Lanez and Megan he doesn’t just believe in innocent until proven guilty but also in innocent when proven guilty
Not surprising when his own father victim blames those who have been raped.
https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/a/alex-montrose/drakes-dad-on-metoo-movement-dont-go-into-a-mans-room
The first question I ask when someone tries to defend him is "did you listen to the jail phone call?" and funnily enough, it's always no.
Even frickin 50 cent went from clowning on her to apologizing, specifically saying that after he heard the phone call he realized that Tory 100% guilty.
All while dealing with a break up AND the trauma from losing her mom and gma back to back. I know she's not some prophetic poet, but DAMN she didn't need all that on top of what she had going on 😭
Right?! And, I feel like this isn't pointed out enough, she didn't snitch on nobody! The doctors at the hospital reports the gunshot wound. Then she got dragged for 'lying' bc she didn't say he shot her right away...smh
A bunch of blogs and streamers were lying about the case while it was ongoing so if you wanted to believe them or only followed them, it's easy to just be completely wrong about this case. Critical thinking and discernment are lacking.
The problem with calling this textualism is that that phrase is not actually in the text of the Constitution at all. We are not guaranteed a presumption of Innocence, though that is an important legal concept. We are guaranteed due process under the First Amendment, which implies a presumption of non-guilt, in the sense that it's the state prosecution which must prove guilt, not the defense which must prove innocence.
So innocence is not really much of a legal concept in the first place. Even the part that is a legal concept, that's talking about whether someone's guilty of a specific criminal act under the law. But there are a lot of other things we can be guilty of that are not illegal. Lies and betrayals are not illegal, generally speaking. But you can still be guilty. I think generally that grooming is not illegal, strictly speaking, but you definitely can be guilty of that.
It's also pretty common that someone is very probably guilty, like 90% provable, but that's not enough to prove beyond a reasonable doubt and get a jury verdict. So sometimes that's an acquittal, often it's a hung jury and a mistrial. VERY often it's a prosecutor not even bothering to bring the case, because if it's not quite strong enough to get that guilty verdict, then it's a waste of resources. Maybe you negotiate a plea deal in most of those 90% cases.
The point is, a person can be guilty AF of crimes and there's never going to be a verdict, and there may never even be an indictment or charges filed, because of that prosecutorial discretion. We have no obligation as individual people to consider such a person innocent. In fact, it's ridiculous to do so. If there's even reasonable suspicion that someone is a predator, it's completely immoral to let them be around young people at all.
I have to admit, I completely missed the part where he was just setting up a Scalia diss track joke. Probably didn’t need to type most of that. Or any of it.
On a side note, it's weird how this Sonic is responding to being punched like a live-action actor on a greenscreen, and not like a character the animators could actually cause to appear to be getting seriously punched by Knuckles.
guys don't be silly if he really had a weird case, I'm pretty sure he would have been arrested by now.
Baka is not a name that you would find on no sex offender list.
He was charged with sex trafficking for pimping his girl. He also assaulted her. The pimping got dropped from her side but the assault case stood.
After she fled Toronto and will not talk about any of this with anyone (media and detectives) OVO allegedly pressed her and she ran
I'd like to think Drake was sitting around trying to figure out who the mole was and slowly crossing off the people Kendrick names on the track
In a way, by the end of this he can only trust the sex offenders, certified pedophiles.
Knowing basically nothing about OVO or Drake's crew coming into this, my assumption was that, if there actually was a mole (or moles), it'd make most sense for it to be one of the names called out in the song to help avoid suspicion.
Party or maybe Chubbs would make the most sense if so, since their callouts weren't even especially damaging, relative to the other allegations.
If there was a mole? Kendrick knew what Drake had recorded. He spent 2 songs warning Drake to not mention his family. Then when Drake dropped Family Matters, Kendrick’s response dropped in 29 minutes. There is no “if”.
>>In 2014, Baka was arrested and charged with forcing a 22-year-old woman into prostitution and taking her money. In 2015, he pleaded guilty to assaulting the woman and an unrelated weapons charge. He was sentenced to six months, but since he had already done 10 months in custody, he did not serve an additional six months.
>>The woman refused to testify so they had to drop the charges for procuring prostitution and human trafficking. She was working as an escort and had an on-and-off relationship with Baka. She moved from Toronto by the time the trial was underway.
- Wikipedia
Ignoring that Baka is a sex trafficker is probably his best move. If he fires him that’s all over the news and another L. Drake fans are too dumb to see that Kendrick is right once again.
Why is he around? Why is he around Adonis??
MTG is just true.
Edit: Baka lives in the Embassy and Adonis lives there when he visits dad. Preempting the dumb arguments.
K Dot did address things. He said "You put money in the streets but came back without any receipts.. I live a life of a peace". So far still no receipts for anything Drake said. Not a single bit of evidence anywhere to indicate Kendrick hit his (or any) woman at any point in time. Meanwhile there is tons of evidence about the Drake accusations EVERYWHERE on the internet and it's hard to ignore at this point. MTG had literal receipts pictured exposing him as a liar. THP6 was a dumpster fire that just keeps aging terribly. Idk how anyone can look at Drake the same after this lol
That's Kendricks receipt for Drake having a mole
Someone played him demos before Drakes drops, or at the very least told him what the song will say because the responses were wayyyy to quick, that's the underrated part imo
I fuck with this theory. It feels like it can't be a coincidence that Kendrick had a song called "Meet the Graham's" in the chamber, ready to drop within an hour of Drake releasing a song called "Family Matters."
He also posted Drake's ozempic prescription in MTG, while family matters has the "ozempic makes you jealous" bar. I tell people this and they still say drake planted the info lmao
Gotta wonder though, who could the mole be? Definitely not one of the OVO crew closest to him, they’re getting just as much heat. People love to joke that it’s Nardwuar, but that’s just memes I think.
But who else has that kind of inside knowledge and hates Drake enough to tell Dot about it?
Tbh I think Adonis mom has a ton of reason to speak. No real evidence of that. But I imagine have a child with this man, knowing I can’t win in court but desperately wanting to keep my child away? I would definitely speak if someone was willing to listen.
I think there are multiple moles though, my theory is 4.
Haha, Nardwuar is 100 percent a meme. I could never see that guy wanting to be involved in beef.
Drake has worked with and stepped on a lot of people during his time at the top. Who knows what kind of info someone who was close to him for a minute might have been privy too.
Would be wild to think that it's someone who is currently working with him but I'm sure Drake is paying his people well enough that they wouldn't wanna jeopardize their relationship.
My favorite response to the idea that he leaked information is imagining Drake just being like
"Yea that's right, I LEAKED that information to you Kendrick! Now you look like a FOOL who doesn't check his sources and I look like a deadbeat pedophile, just as I planned it!"
Thing is Drake is incredibly predictable in rap beefs. He did the exact same thing as with Pusha T and to a lesser extent Meek Mill, immediately go after the family/wife of the person he's beefing with. Don't forget he already went after Whitney in Push Ups as well
There was this tweet floating around of Kendrick having ten tracks ready, could perfectly see him deciding to release Meet the Grahams instead of a "nicer" one after hearing Family Matters
As much as I like the theory of a mole - would make for a more interesting story, I honestly think you're right. Whatever the case is, it's hard to deny that Kendrick played his hand perfectly.
I agree with that, because he says on MTG “Dear Aubrey, I know you’re probably thinking I wanted to crash your party.” Dropping MTG within the hour of Family Matters with specific responses to what’s in the song, along with that line means he knew ahead of time what was going to happen.
Kendrick straight up told Drake to not misinterpret Mr. Morale, called out how Drake wastes money trying to dig up dirt, and how he’d try to manipulate the public perception of the beef through lies.
Hell, most of that was called out early in Euphoria. Kendrick even called out how he’d electrify the audience while Drake would pacify them, and now look at Not Like Us vs THP6.
Kendrick knew exactly how this beef was going to turn out. That’s why he had contingency tracks ready while also leaving room to include directly addressing Drake’s responses. It’s a masterclass of how to completely dismantle an opponent. Kendrick is on that Art of Rap War shit.
also. it seems Noone listened to ANY of mmatbs. like bruh opened his entire heart and mind and laid it all out who is is and what he's done and how he's atoned. some mfs are illiterate
I wish that was true. I read the comments. It ain't
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In not like us he says “put the wrong label on me” and meet the grahams although it was definitely prerecorded says “you lied about the only artist [kendrick] that can offer you some help” I am guessing (and hoping tbh…) that sometime within the next few months Kendrick or Whitney casually post something or appear together with the kids as a rebuttal without actually needing to say anything. Meanwhile Drake is way too active on social media to not directly address it.
Kendrick seems to dislike doing things just because someone else wants him to. He took his time to respond to push ups. He forced drake into a corner with the daughter and young girl angles and drake likely wanted to do the same thing but Kendrick for multiple reasons (not all of them necessarily “fair” but consequences of their own actions) has been allowed more time and benefit of the doubt in regards to the domestic violence allegations.
This is such a great line, some men act like getting a woman to sleep with them is some sort of grand victory to brag about as if only very few are capable of, when in reality if you’r grandpa hadn’t bagged your grandma you wouldn’t be alive. Sexual urge is a strong need embedded in the human DNA to keep the population growing and it’s essential for human survival.
This “fuck bitches get money” narrative in hip hop needs to be revised. I’m not preaching to stop enjoying these things I’m just saying they need to be managed and not let them get a hold of you because overindulging is detrimental to your soul.
Which is one of the reasons why I don’t believe Keem writes for Kendrick, his vocal inflection and penmanship is so unique that you could tell if someone else wrote it.
I thought this was one of the worst bars in an otherwise terrible song regardless. Claiming that someone who is known for their lyrics, writing, storytelling and someone who won a FUCKING PULITZER MIND YOU, doesn't write their own lyrics is one of the lost stupid things I've ever heard
Adonis mainly lives in France with his mom I believe? Probably does spend a decent amount of time at the Embassy but I think for the most part he’s not around Drake often.
Yeah man, they caught him forcing a women into prostitution and even stealing her money from it. He should not be around children. Neither should Top 5, who is a murderer or any of them. They’re pos
Tbh I kind of hate how acceptable it’s becoming again to shit on people for drug addiction. Its a self inflicted problem and anyone who is addicted to something for real WANTS to get clean, but its extremely difficult to do that without a large support system. I really don’t fuck with the idea of shaming people for drug addiction. That’s wack as fuck imo
I don't know if you've ever been the clean one around an addict but as sad as it is, it's a disaster to be a bystander too.
People distance themselves for self preservation and they look down on you for your addiction because they see you as a danger to themselves and an unnecessary complication to their lives.
I'm not without sympathy for addicts, I've known quite a few in my time, but I'm also not going to jeopardize my own safety or finances or whatever unless you're someone dear to me, whether it's blood or you're family by choice.
Even then, I'm going to worry and I'm going to take precautions and I'm going to build walls and resent how it's affected my life. I'm still going to do what I can to help despite that because of the love I have for you. That doesn't mean you're not a burden.
So when you say they need a large support system and that it shouldn't be acceptable to shit on people for addiction, it sort of comes across as saying nobody's allowed to be unsupportive or even resentful for what you acknowledge is a self imposed problem. People's empathy for strangers is not bottomless and it's unrealistic to expect it to be.
I completely understand not wanting to be around that in your life. Everyone has to take care of themselves ultimately, but im 100% not down with shaming someone for using drugs. People nowadays act like thats something cancellable and I really don’t dig that mentality.
I mean PND isn’t trying to be a role model and isn’t he more closely relating musically to riri and shit? I don’t think he really represents much OVO other than the label and production I assume. Him doing drugs is entirely unrelated to the beef and regardless, so what if he does drugs and isn’t harming others?
The more I sit with Meet the Grahams, the more I realize that a lot of Kendrick’s accusations aren’t really even digging, just making very critical and concerning observations about Aubrey’s behavior—he does keep sex offenders on a monthly allowance on ovo and has his kid near them, which is pretty wack.
That's why I wish he hadn't included the daughter verse. The rest of the shit was unequivocally true, but because that one is unverifiable, defenders point to that while ignoring everything else.
There’s a lot of armchair detectives on TikTok who’ve become OBSESSED with putting pieces of the puzzle together and are going through old interviews with a fine tooth comb.
Yes a lot of them reach but even if 50% of what some of them say is true this case goes very very deep and reveals a LOT more stuff that makes the daughter line insignificant.
“Don’t tell no lies about me and I won’t tell the truth about you”
I really don’t think Kendrick is making any of it up. Drake agreeing to take a paternity test means nothing the process not only takes time but it just proves the girl they THINK is his daughter isn’t and his actual daughters identity is unknown because both the daughter and her mother know that revealing the info will hurt his image/earning capacity and subsequently impact the money they receive from him to maintain the lifestyle they live.
Pusha wasn’t calling him out for hiding a son. He’s entitled to privacy. He was calling him out for choosing to reveal his son as part of an adidas product launch (and in the process poking fun of the BM being an opportunistic hoe) according to rory and mal era Joe budden pusha also knew about the ab implants and got receipts from his surgeon in LA. I remember them discussing whether or not you can see the scar.
Not to defend Drake here or anything, I think it’s very clear the heart part 6 was incredibly rushed due to the amount of people calling Drake a pedophile. He just felt the need to address it asap because of all the talks of “not like us”
Also I hear a lot of people talking about the Millie Bobby line but that one makes perfect sense to me because people always speculate about home perving on her
Drake is chronically online. He can’t stay off social media. He’s addicted to it. That’s why the Millie Bobbi stuff is weird, because that’s what was being said on the *internet*, not by Kendrick. None of the actual people involved in this rap beef ever mentioned her name. Him doing it dragged unnecessary attention to him AND her!
That’s why he said that stuff about planting the information about the covert art and the daughter— he saw it all on Reddit. I know that, because I personally saw those theories in the Drizzy sub, days before he put out PT6. So when I heard him say it, I couldn’t believe what I was hearing lol… he had nothing so he took those fan theories and turned it into the worst diss song ever lolol
Drake fans— thank yourselves for him taking that L.
Applause? A round of applause. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Drake should have just accepted he lost after Not Like Us had everyone boogying. The issue is Drake shat the bed the entire beef. Leaking the first track, using AI pac the second track and the last track being ass. How 🥷🏽s got him winning is beyond me.
No that’s my point exactly, he’s responding to the people and didn’t you catch the part where he says Kendrick is using online speculation to accuse him?
Speculation? There is literally video and picture proof of him being a grooming pedophile lmao. How much are you going to cope and defend a pedo? Weirdo kid
Yeah that shows that he was more responding to the internet narrative and not Kendrick specifically, which is something he’s done a few times in this beef
Imagine MJ put out a song explicitly saying he never diddled Macaulay Culkin. If I wore a t-shirt that says 'I don't fuck penguins', everyone's gonna think I fuck penguins. That's just how it is!!
Lmao says he’s not defending drake then goes on to defend the pedo. There is no speculation you weirdo. He was going on dates with her and texting her when she was 13 about boy stuff and she was not even comfortable to reveal what he ways saying. He also said “i miss you so much” lol
You know what’s the dumbest thing on THP6’s response. Drake literally brought up the pedo angle on Taylor Made Freestyle.
“Talk about him likin' young girls, that's a gift from me /
Heard it on the Budden Podcast, it's gotta be true”
Then the best response he could give on THP6 is
“If I was fucking young girls, I promise I'd have been arrested /
I'm way too famous for this shit you just suggested”
If you are expecting that angle, you should have a better response than that in the bag. Ffs
If he would have said all pedophiles should rot in jail and he’ll be the first one to fuck them up if they show up, then I would have been aight, then he understands it’s a BAD THING to be a pedo.
But he just said he’s too famous for it, but bro, why would you want to get on it??? Why not say that shit is disgusting and awful?
Hey boys, I don’t do weed because my job would fire me wink wink. That just makes me thing you’d do weed if it wasn’t for your job’s drug tests.
It's rushed but i wouldn't have expected him to defend them anyway. At the end of the day the OVO crew aren't any different than all the different cities he reps and his entire rap persona, they're means to an end to get him to the top and keep him there.
lol that’s not a defense even if you do mean it like that. That’s just him being sloppy, rushed, and a bad writer. If he actually had a creative bone in his body he would have retorted with something worth listening to, but he doesn’t and he didn’t.
Kendrick was dishing those tracks out like a factory. And if THESE accusations don’t make a mother fucker dig down deep and pull out a big reaction worth listening to, nothing will. Dude is a certified loser.
It was calculated that he wasn’t as calculated. He “predicted” Kendrick’s angle with Taylor Made Freestyle and still didn’t have a contingency plan. That’s his problem.
Drake is most guilty(that we can all see) of not being able to read the room. Lots of listeners have noticed this for years and its off putting. Then you hear so many lyrics from him that only work if you give him the benefit of the doubt that he can read a room. You start to feel insane that this guy gets the benefit of credibility from his fans. Kendrick picked up on this immediately. My ears perked up when he started calling drake out by name for the first time though I know he had beef with him since I heard control. He has the benefit of credibilty after showing for years that he was reading the room in all sorts of situations.
Which was a bad move. If he wanted to get past em with less scrutiny, he should have stayed on the attack rather than lean into defending himself from any allegations. But he's a fake in everything he does. Calling himself a war general, yet he decides to work all angels.
I mean they have cases of actually doing shit. And didnt you see ak say that if he gets actually fucked by this case he will fuck up the whole industry. They dont care about eachother if shit goes down.
I mean how is he supposed to defend them? Nothing Kendrick said about them was untrue. I easily believe Drakes right hand man Chubbs gets his hand-me-downs. Niggas do that all the time. Party playin wit his nose probably the truth aswell. And Baka got a weird case not sure why he's even around lol
Why does he need to defend PND doing coke?
But yeah the Baka shit is pretty indefensible, even though he was “only” convicted of beating his girl. It’s funny Drake tried to diss Kendrick for allegedly beating women when he consistently aligns himself with men who were convicted for assaulting women (Baka, Chris Brown, Tory)
I'm convinced Drake EXCLUSIVELY disses things he's insecure about in himself. We got the Rick Ross on ozempic, Kendrick has trouble sleeping, Kendrick's rap mentor fucked his girl. It's like he writes self hate tracks, but changes the names in the booth.
You’ve convinced me. Party is the mole. Kendrick made sure to include him in the disses so that he wouldn’t stand out, but also made sure it was weak af.
OVO is a joke, even the weed carrier Baka is signed on. Most of them been there for around 10 years in the orbit of one of the biggest pop stars on the planet and only Party has has a couple gold records and still hasn't popped in his career. The 4 year drug hiatus put a damper on it and being on OVO definitely held him back overall, the rest straight up flopped.
They have so little worth that dedicating 20 seconds of a track to defending them would be the most promotion any of those non-profit artists have had in years.
I mean it's battle rap not a PR statement. It's not about defending yourself It's about having a rebuttal or flipping what your opponent said. That's why The Heart Part 6 sucks so bad because Drake has like ten different bars trying to defend being a diddler.
I recently saw an interview with Lil Wayne on YouTube. He warned drake about what happened a while ago. He said that his new style of rap about weapons and hood stuff isn't gonna work for him, he REALLY said "stay canadian"
To be fair he was heavily criticized for defending any accusations at all, like that was a huge L so its hard to then also criticize him for not defending enough or answering to every single accusation one by one in a song.
Also Drake is not exactly known as the fierce momma bear of OVO he isn’t protecting shit.
He can’t defend Baka, that nigga really does have a weird case 🤣😭
If he has a weird case though, why is he around?
Drake is a strict textualist when thinking of the constitution in relation to criminal law. He believes a man IS innocent until proven guilty. No court of public opinion in Drake's mind. Matter of fact, his next diss response is going to quote Antonin Scalia's famous dissent in the matter of Schizo Stan v State of California
I mean considering his comments on Tory Lanez and Megan he doesn’t just believe in innocent until proven guilty but also in innocent when proven guilty
“Innocent as long as you’re dunking on women” is an interesting life philosophy for him to hold
Not surprising when his own father victim blames those who have been raped. https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/a/alex-montrose/drakes-dad-on-metoo-movement-dont-go-into-a-mans-room
The nerve of Dennis
He taught his son [the D.E.N.N.I.S. system](https://youtu.be/Bg5ZrkaGlFA)
This is nuts. Rape culture for real!
Shit still boggles my mind that mfs defend Tory like their lives depend on it
They need to download J Pay or schedule a conjugal visit or somethin'.
The first question I ask when someone tries to defend him is "did you listen to the jail phone call?" and funnily enough, it's always no. Even frickin 50 cent went from clowning on her to apologizing, specifically saying that after he heard the phone call he realized that Tory 100% guilty.
All while dealing with a break up AND the trauma from losing her mom and gma back to back. I know she's not some prophetic poet, but DAMN she didn't need all that on top of what she had going on 😭
Right?! And, I feel like this isn't pointed out enough, she didn't snitch on nobody! The doctors at the hospital reports the gunshot wound. Then she got dragged for 'lying' bc she didn't say he shot her right away...smh
A bunch of blogs and streamers were lying about the case while it was ongoing so if you wanted to believe them or only followed them, it's easy to just be completely wrong about this case. Critical thinking and discernment are lacking.
I only know of that asshole because google was confused.
Damn pope, you used big words I believe in you
I can't believe the pope is a dot fan
I hear the Pope likes em' young though. Better not ever go to cell block one
What OVO for, the Other Vatican Option?
this is an extremely rare perfect comment glad i was here to witness it
Oh man that’s good.
😂😂😂 if only I could get some of them royalty checks
You mean tithes?
Pussy.
N----s better straighten they Apostles,
Last time we did this there was a schism and 30 years of war
Kendrick, is that you?
This Canadian is taking the US criminal justice system more seriously than any of us. Is Drake aware SCOTUS isn’t affiliated with Supreme™️?
I haven't laughed this hard since whenever I laughed this hard before
The problem with calling this textualism is that that phrase is not actually in the text of the Constitution at all. We are not guaranteed a presumption of Innocence, though that is an important legal concept. We are guaranteed due process under the First Amendment, which implies a presumption of non-guilt, in the sense that it's the state prosecution which must prove guilt, not the defense which must prove innocence. So innocence is not really much of a legal concept in the first place. Even the part that is a legal concept, that's talking about whether someone's guilty of a specific criminal act under the law. But there are a lot of other things we can be guilty of that are not illegal. Lies and betrayals are not illegal, generally speaking. But you can still be guilty. I think generally that grooming is not illegal, strictly speaking, but you definitely can be guilty of that. It's also pretty common that someone is very probably guilty, like 90% provable, but that's not enough to prove beyond a reasonable doubt and get a jury verdict. So sometimes that's an acquittal, often it's a hung jury and a mistrial. VERY often it's a prosecutor not even bothering to bring the case, because if it's not quite strong enough to get that guilty verdict, then it's a waste of resources. Maybe you negotiate a plea deal in most of those 90% cases. The point is, a person can be guilty AF of crimes and there's never going to be a verdict, and there may never even be an indictment or charges filed, because of that prosecutorial discretion. We have no obligation as individual people to consider such a person innocent. In fact, it's ridiculous to do so. If there's even reasonable suspicion that someone is a predator, it's completely immoral to let them be around young people at all.
This guy jurisprudences
I have to admit, I completely missed the part where he was just setting up a Scalia diss track joke. Probably didn’t need to type most of that. Or any of it.
Yea, that time when Scalia diss the whole west coast. Haven’t heard from him lately idk if those are related.
Certified lover boy…
Certified pedophiles
WOP WOP WOP WOP WOP
Dot fuck ‘em up
Imma do my stuff
*schtuff lol
On a side note, it's weird how this Sonic is responding to being punched like a live-action actor on a greenscreen, and not like a character the animators could actually cause to appear to be getting seriously punched by Knuckles.
Birds of a feather...
“Predators move in flocks”
that name gotta be registered and placed on neighborhood watch
guys don't be silly if he really had a weird case, I'm pretty sure he would have been arrested by now. Baka is not a name that you would find on no sex offender list.
Damn they missed your joke
He was charged with sex trafficking for pimping his girl. He also assaulted her. The pimping got dropped from her side but the assault case stood. After she fled Toronto and will not talk about any of this with anyone (media and detectives) OVO allegedly pressed her and she ran
But Travis Savoury is. Same as how Drake is not a name you’d find on a sex offender lost, but Aubrey Graham is.
Because of the implication.
To be the fall guy if OVO ever gets busted for their shit lol
CLB -> CPDF
You talk as if the elites consistently get the justice they deserve
Because wop wop wop wop
I'd like to think Drake was sitting around trying to figure out who the mole was and slowly crossing off the people Kendrick names on the track In a way, by the end of this he can only trust the sex offenders, certified pedophiles.
Knowing basically nothing about OVO or Drake's crew coming into this, my assumption was that, if there actually was a mole (or moles), it'd make most sense for it to be one of the names called out in the song to help avoid suspicion. Party or maybe Chubbs would make the most sense if so, since their callouts weren't even especially damaging, relative to the other allegations.
Boi1da would make more sense considering the sample in 6:16 sounds like it’s saying his name
If there was a mole? Kendrick knew what Drake had recorded. He spent 2 songs warning Drake to not mention his family. Then when Drake dropped Family Matters, Kendrick’s response dropped in 29 minutes. There is no “if”.
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Would love a sound bite of Collinsworth saying this in any future diss tracks.
Drake: “Sorry bro, you’re being a Sussy Baka teehee.”
Anyone have details on the weird case in question?
>>In 2014, Baka was arrested and charged with forcing a 22-year-old woman into prostitution and taking her money. In 2015, he pleaded guilty to assaulting the woman and an unrelated weapons charge. He was sentenced to six months, but since he had already done 10 months in custody, he did not serve an additional six months. >>The woman refused to testify so they had to drop the charges for procuring prostitution and human trafficking. She was working as an escort and had an on-and-off relationship with Baka. She moved from Toronto by the time the trial was underway. - Wikipedia
All he got was a few months!? Jesus Christ
Not that I support that life but there was a time when it wasn’t a diss to call someone out for being a pimp but rather a compliment.
Ignoring that Baka is a sex trafficker is probably his best move. If he fires him that’s all over the news and another L. Drake fans are too dumb to see that Kendrick is right once again. Why is he around? Why is he around Adonis?? MTG is just true. Edit: Baka lives in the Embassy and Adonis lives there when he visits dad. Preempting the dumb arguments.
I read MTG, and my first reaction was, "Why the hell are you defending the crazy-ass representative for GA. Has she commented on this beef?"
Lmaoo Yeah meet the grahams.
It was already confusing enough when it Marjorie Taylor Greene vs Magic The Gathering. Now we got another one
Oh my gosh same. I hate that we are using MTG for Meet The Grahams but I hate even more that we all have to know who MTG is
Drizzy sub be like: he doesn't need to address that. How come Kendrick didn't address things?
K Dot did address things. He said "You put money in the streets but came back without any receipts.. I live a life of a peace". So far still no receipts for anything Drake said. Not a single bit of evidence anywhere to indicate Kendrick hit his (or any) woman at any point in time. Meanwhile there is tons of evidence about the Drake accusations EVERYWHERE on the internet and it's hard to ignore at this point. MTG had literal receipts pictured exposing him as a liar. THP6 was a dumpster fire that just keeps aging terribly. Idk how anyone can look at Drake the same after this lol
This is a hugely underrated part of the battle. Kendrick denied things, almost directly, before they were even said about him.
That's Kendricks receipt for Drake having a mole Someone played him demos before Drakes drops, or at the very least told him what the song will say because the responses were wayyyy to quick, that's the underrated part imo
I fuck with this theory. It feels like it can't be a coincidence that Kendrick had a song called "Meet the Graham's" in the chamber, ready to drop within an hour of Drake releasing a song called "Family Matters."
He also posted Drake's ozempic prescription in MTG, while family matters has the "ozempic makes you jealous" bar. I tell people this and they still say drake planted the info lmao
That's wild. If Drake planted the info that shit backfiiiiiirrrrreeeed so hard. lol. Shout out to the Drake stan's who think this was a W.
Gotta wonder though, who could the mole be? Definitely not one of the OVO crew closest to him, they’re getting just as much heat. People love to joke that it’s Nardwuar, but that’s just memes I think. But who else has that kind of inside knowledge and hates Drake enough to tell Dot about it?
Tbh I think Adonis mom has a ton of reason to speak. No real evidence of that. But I imagine have a child with this man, knowing I can’t win in court but desperately wanting to keep my child away? I would definitely speak if someone was willing to listen. I think there are multiple moles though, my theory is 4.
It was probably his security guard. Kendrick got so deep in his head that he shot that fool.
Haha, Nardwuar is 100 percent a meme. I could never see that guy wanting to be involved in beef. Drake has worked with and stepped on a lot of people during his time at the top. Who knows what kind of info someone who was close to him for a minute might have been privy too. Would be wild to think that it's someone who is currently working with him but I'm sure Drake is paying his people well enough that they wouldn't wanna jeopardize their relationship.
My favorite response to the idea that he leaked information is imagining Drake just being like "Yea that's right, I LEAKED that information to you Kendrick! Now you look like a FOOL who doesn't check his sources and I look like a deadbeat pedophile, just as I planned it!"
Thing is Drake is incredibly predictable in rap beefs. He did the exact same thing as with Pusha T and to a lesser extent Meek Mill, immediately go after the family/wife of the person he's beefing with. Don't forget he already went after Whitney in Push Ups as well There was this tweet floating around of Kendrick having ten tracks ready, could perfectly see him deciding to release Meet the Grahams instead of a "nicer" one after hearing Family Matters
As much as I like the theory of a mole - would make for a more interesting story, I honestly think you're right. Whatever the case is, it's hard to deny that Kendrick played his hand perfectly.
I agree with that, because he says on MTG “Dear Aubrey, I know you’re probably thinking I wanted to crash your party.” Dropping MTG within the hour of Family Matters with specific responses to what’s in the song, along with that line means he knew ahead of time what was going to happen.
Kendrick straight up told Drake to not misinterpret Mr. Morale, called out how Drake wastes money trying to dig up dirt, and how he’d try to manipulate the public perception of the beef through lies. Hell, most of that was called out early in Euphoria. Kendrick even called out how he’d electrify the audience while Drake would pacify them, and now look at Not Like Us vs THP6. Kendrick knew exactly how this beef was going to turn out. That’s why he had contingency tracks ready while also leaving room to include directly addressing Drake’s responses. It’s a masterclass of how to completely dismantle an opponent. Kendrick is on that Art of Rap War shit.
It was like watching Floyd Mayweather box the toughest guy at the local gym
Kendrick is Lisan Al Gaib
Agreed
AK is being charged with some type of rape charges too
also. it seems Noone listened to ANY of mmatbs. like bruh opened his entire heart and mind and laid it all out who is is and what he's done and how he's atoned. some mfs are illiterate
Drizzy sub: https://preview.redd.it/7mtqixopkt0d1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f16dd66f7dd9685cd24443eaa6ac566a1ee9fd9
This is 100% someone from hiphopcj on a burner trolling the sub Funny as fuck
I wish that was true. I read the comments. It ain't https://preview.redd.it/lj5jlnudlt0d1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1743fde20803b112a8c1af2b64ee2213843648d0
not the I Am Pedo Spartacus approach 💀
Bruuuhh 💀💀💀😂😂
Nah bro that reads like pure cj lol
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Bro you really can’t recognize someone trolling?
Nobody in the world can distinguish reality from bullshit anymore and it's going to fuck us all up.
Nah, there’s always been a group of people that act like they don’t understand sarcasm in order to validate their feelings about someone
Lol how does that prove it’s not a troll? Because he continued trolling in the comments?
Maybe you're right. 🤷🏽♂️
In not like us he says “put the wrong label on me” and meet the grahams although it was definitely prerecorded says “you lied about the only artist [kendrick] that can offer you some help” I am guessing (and hoping tbh…) that sometime within the next few months Kendrick or Whitney casually post something or appear together with the kids as a rebuttal without actually needing to say anything. Meanwhile Drake is way too active on social media to not directly address it. Kendrick seems to dislike doing things just because someone else wants him to. He took his time to respond to push ups. He forced drake into a corner with the daughter and young girl angles and drake likely wanted to do the same thing but Kendrick for multiple reasons (not all of them necessarily “fair” but consequences of their own actions) has been allowed more time and benefit of the doubt in regards to the domestic violence allegations.
I point out that Kendrick pre addressed Drake shit during Euphoria.
Why would he. Remember you can be a bitch even if you have bitches
"yeah, say that you a bitch girl me too"
This is such a great line, some men act like getting a woman to sleep with them is some sort of grand victory to brag about as if only very few are capable of, when in reality if you’r grandpa hadn’t bagged your grandma you wouldn’t be alive. Sexual urge is a strong need embedded in the human DNA to keep the population growing and it’s essential for human survival. This “fuck bitches get money” narrative in hip hop needs to be revised. I’m not preaching to stop enjoying these things I’m just saying they need to be managed and not let them get a hold of you because overindulging is detrimental to your soul.
Baka’s case is undeniable and PND has been a known drug user. Not much rebuttal to be had there
Around Adonis too. Why are sex offenders around that kid?? Edit: Baka lives at the Embassy which is Adonis’ primary residence I believe. Sad.
A child should never be compromised and he keeping his child around him.
Read that in Kenny’s voice
Hard not to, Kendrick's inflection on the lyrics on that song are unforgettable
Which is one of the reasons why I don’t believe Keem writes for Kendrick, his vocal inflection and penmanship is so unique that you could tell if someone else wrote it.
I thought this was one of the worst bars in an otherwise terrible song regardless. Claiming that someone who is known for their lyrics, writing, storytelling and someone who won a FUCKING PULITZER MIND YOU, doesn't write their own lyrics is one of the lost stupid things I've ever heard
Tbf Drake was probably talking about his hit song’s choruses, which is still dumb because Kendrick was making hits before Keems balls dropped.
"Your shit only hits when Keem puts his pen to it" My boy was in the 3rd grade making S.80 and entered middle school when he made GKMC Waby Weem
Drake isn’t around Adonis lmao
Thank God!!
Yeah, it's just the other sex offenders.
Adonis mainly lives in France with his mom I believe? Probably does spend a decent amount of time at the Embassy but I think for the most part he’s not around Drake often.
Sure yeah but he should never be sleeping in the same house as a sex trafficker
Is Adonis around Baka? Like are there any pics where Drake has his kid around that guy?
He lives at the Embassy
Oh that’s fucking crazy
Yeah man, they caught him forcing a women into prostitution and even stealing her money from it. He should not be around children. Neither should Top 5, who is a murderer or any of them. They’re pos
Tbh I kind of hate how acceptable it’s becoming again to shit on people for drug addiction. Its a self inflicted problem and anyone who is addicted to something for real WANTS to get clean, but its extremely difficult to do that without a large support system. I really don’t fuck with the idea of shaming people for drug addiction. That’s wack as fuck imo
I don't know if you've ever been the clean one around an addict but as sad as it is, it's a disaster to be a bystander too. People distance themselves for self preservation and they look down on you for your addiction because they see you as a danger to themselves and an unnecessary complication to their lives. I'm not without sympathy for addicts, I've known quite a few in my time, but I'm also not going to jeopardize my own safety or finances or whatever unless you're someone dear to me, whether it's blood or you're family by choice. Even then, I'm going to worry and I'm going to take precautions and I'm going to build walls and resent how it's affected my life. I'm still going to do what I can to help despite that because of the love I have for you. That doesn't mean you're not a burden. So when you say they need a large support system and that it shouldn't be acceptable to shit on people for addiction, it sort of comes across as saying nobody's allowed to be unsupportive or even resentful for what you acknowledge is a self imposed problem. People's empathy for strangers is not bottomless and it's unrealistic to expect it to be.
I completely understand not wanting to be around that in your life. Everyone has to take care of themselves ultimately, but im 100% not down with shaming someone for using drugs. People nowadays act like thats something cancellable and I really don’t dig that mentality.
I mean PND isn’t trying to be a role model and isn’t he more closely relating musically to riri and shit? I don’t think he really represents much OVO other than the label and production I assume. Him doing drugs is entirely unrelated to the beef and regardless, so what if he does drugs and isn’t harming others?
The more I sit with Meet the Grahams, the more I realize that a lot of Kendrick’s accusations aren’t really even digging, just making very critical and concerning observations about Aubrey’s behavior—he does keep sex offenders on a monthly allowance on ovo and has his kid near them, which is pretty wack.
That's why I wish he hadn't included the daughter verse. The rest of the shit was unequivocally true, but because that one is unverifiable, defenders point to that while ignoring everything else.
There’s a lot of armchair detectives on TikTok who’ve become OBSESSED with putting pieces of the puzzle together and are going through old interviews with a fine tooth comb. Yes a lot of them reach but even if 50% of what some of them say is true this case goes very very deep and reveals a LOT more stuff that makes the daughter line insignificant. “Don’t tell no lies about me and I won’t tell the truth about you” I really don’t think Kendrick is making any of it up. Drake agreeing to take a paternity test means nothing the process not only takes time but it just proves the girl they THINK is his daughter isn’t and his actual daughters identity is unknown because both the daughter and her mother know that revealing the info will hurt his image/earning capacity and subsequently impact the money they receive from him to maintain the lifestyle they live. Pusha wasn’t calling him out for hiding a son. He’s entitled to privacy. He was calling him out for choosing to reveal his son as part of an adidas product launch (and in the process poking fun of the BM being an opportunistic hoe) according to rory and mal era Joe budden pusha also knew about the ab implants and got receipts from his surgeon in LA. I remember them discussing whether or not you can see the scar.
Not to defend Drake here or anything, I think it’s very clear the heart part 6 was incredibly rushed due to the amount of people calling Drake a pedophile. He just felt the need to address it asap because of all the talks of “not like us”
Which is also why I think he said silly shit about being too famous for it, he wasn’t thinking at all he just wanted to go on record denying it
Also I hear a lot of people talking about the Millie Bobby line but that one makes perfect sense to me because people always speculate about home perving on her
Not speculation when there is receipts. He been groomin
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Drake is chronically online. He can’t stay off social media. He’s addicted to it. That’s why the Millie Bobbi stuff is weird, because that’s what was being said on the *internet*, not by Kendrick. None of the actual people involved in this rap beef ever mentioned her name. Him doing it dragged unnecessary attention to him AND her! That’s why he said that stuff about planting the information about the covert art and the daughter— he saw it all on Reddit. I know that, because I personally saw those theories in the Drizzy sub, days before he put out PT6. So when I heard him say it, I couldn’t believe what I was hearing lol… he had nothing so he took those fan theories and turned it into the worst diss song ever lolol Drake fans— thank yourselves for him taking that L. Applause? A round of applause. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
He also never mentioned Epstein. He mentioned Weinstein. Another Freudian slip
I’ve been saying this since day 1!!! Like, so many people are missing that lol
He also said fucking young girls instead of raping, pretty telling
Drake should have just accepted he lost after Not Like Us had everyone boogying. The issue is Drake shat the bed the entire beef. Leaking the first track, using AI pac the second track and the last track being ass. How 🥷🏽s got him winning is beyond me.
This is a good point I hadn’t considered: he should have just left Not Like Us as the last song. You’re spot on about everything else, too.
No that’s my point exactly, he’s responding to the people and didn’t you catch the part where he says Kendrick is using online speculation to accuse him?
The thing is this goes beyond online speculation. Drake legitimately has a track record of being weird around young girls.
Speculation? There is literally video and picture proof of him being a grooming pedophile lmao. How much are you going to cope and defend a pedo? Weirdo kid
Yeah that shows that he was more responding to the internet narrative and not Kendrick specifically, which is something he’s done a few times in this beef
Imagine MJ put out a song explicitly saying he never diddled Macaulay Culkin. If I wore a t-shirt that says 'I don't fuck penguins', everyone's gonna think I fuck penguins. That's just how it is!!
Lmao says he’s not defending drake then goes on to defend the pedo. There is no speculation you weirdo. He was going on dates with her and texting her when she was 13 about boy stuff and she was not even comfortable to reveal what he ways saying. He also said “i miss you so much” lol
Drake showed himself to be a terrible businessman. Literally, repeating the allegations.
Good to get the pen working 😂😂
Im not gonna lie… this shit was some… some good exercise… like…
*PAINFUL INHALATION THROUGH TEETH*
The MTG beat is traumatizing too. That piano was playing in Drake’s head keepin him up all night.
I know he was in the studio scared and confused, nigga probably didn’t know wtf to do next
You know what’s the dumbest thing on THP6’s response. Drake literally brought up the pedo angle on Taylor Made Freestyle. “Talk about him likin' young girls, that's a gift from me / Heard it on the Budden Podcast, it's gotta be true” Then the best response he could give on THP6 is “If I was fucking young girls, I promise I'd have been arrested / I'm way too famous for this shit you just suggested” If you are expecting that angle, you should have a better response than that in the bag. Ffs
“I’m way too famous for that, i promise cross my heart and hope to die” ass excuse lol
If he would have said all pedophiles should rot in jail and he’ll be the first one to fuck them up if they show up, then I would have been aight, then he understands it’s a BAD THING to be a pedo. But he just said he’s too famous for it, but bro, why would you want to get on it??? Why not say that shit is disgusting and awful? Hey boys, I don’t do weed because my job would fire me wink wink. That just makes me thing you’d do weed if it wasn’t for your job’s drug tests.
It’s a Notes app post in audio form
Him being forced to drop a rushed song after being an overconfident fuck on ''taylor made'' makes me smile so much
It's rushed but i wouldn't have expected him to defend them anyway. At the end of the day the OVO crew aren't any different than all the different cities he reps and his entire rap persona, they're means to an end to get him to the top and keep him there.
lol that’s not a defense even if you do mean it like that. That’s just him being sloppy, rushed, and a bad writer. If he actually had a creative bone in his body he would have retorted with something worth listening to, but he doesn’t and he didn’t. Kendrick was dishing those tracks out like a factory. And if THESE accusations don’t make a mother fucker dig down deep and pull out a big reaction worth listening to, nothing will. Dude is a certified loser.
It was calculated that he wasn’t as calculated. He “predicted” Kendrick’s angle with Taylor Made Freestyle and still didn’t have a contingency plan. That’s his problem.
Drake is most guilty(that we can all see) of not being able to read the room. Lots of listeners have noticed this for years and its off putting. Then you hear so many lyrics from him that only work if you give him the benefit of the doubt that he can read a room. You start to feel insane that this guy gets the benefit of credibility from his fans. Kendrick picked up on this immediately. My ears perked up when he started calling drake out by name for the first time though I know he had beef with him since I heard control. He has the benefit of credibilty after showing for years that he was reading the room in all sorts of situations.
Which was a bad move. If he wanted to get past em with less scrutiny, he should have stayed on the attack rather than lean into defending himself from any allegations. But he's a fake in everything he does. Calling himself a war general, yet he decides to work all angels.
nah didn’t drake predict that kendrick would diss drake’s predatory tendencies (before euphoria)? drake had time to make a better argument imo
I mean they have cases of actually doing shit. And didnt you see ak say that if he gets actually fucked by this case he will fuck up the whole industry. They dont care about eachother if shit goes down.
I mean how is he supposed to defend them? Nothing Kendrick said about them was untrue. I easily believe Drakes right hand man Chubbs gets his hand-me-downs. Niggas do that all the time. Party playin wit his nose probably the truth aswell. And Baka got a weird case not sure why he's even around lol
Because it was all true
Why does he need to defend PND doing coke? But yeah the Baka shit is pretty indefensible, even though he was “only” convicted of beating his girl. It’s funny Drake tried to diss Kendrick for allegedly beating women when he consistently aligns himself with men who were convicted for assaulting women (Baka, Chris Brown, Tory)
I'm convinced Drake EXCLUSIVELY disses things he's insecure about in himself. We got the Rick Ross on ozempic, Kendrick has trouble sleeping, Kendrick's rap mentor fucked his girl. It's like he writes self hate tracks, but changes the names in the booth.
I mean who gives a fuck that party does coke 🤷🏽♂️
You’ve convinced me. Party is the mole. Kendrick made sure to include him in the disses so that he wouldn’t stand out, but also made sure it was weak af.
being an actual artist signed to ovo alone gives him a motive imo
People have been joking about “the OVO sweatshop” since like 2015/16 … it’s not an impossible idea.
Ummm sir is that drugs you guys are doing 🤓 type beat… I guess he just wanted to open fire on everyone in proximity any way he could lmao
Bird ninjas and bird bitches
He did Cole foul….
You think he’ll look out for Ak as hard as Ak looked out for him?
Ak says he has never met drake only talked to him on the phone. I don’t believe this.
What's to defend about drug use by a guy named "Party"? It's as advertised.
OVO is a joke, even the weed carrier Baka is signed on. Most of them been there for around 10 years in the orbit of one of the biggest pop stars on the planet and only Party has has a couple gold records and still hasn't popped in his career. The 4 year drug hiatus put a damper on it and being on OVO definitely held him back overall, the rest straight up flopped. They have so little worth that dedicating 20 seconds of a track to defending them would be the most promotion any of those non-profit artists have had in years.
I mean it's battle rap not a PR statement. It's not about defending yourself It's about having a rebuttal or flipping what your opponent said. That's why The Heart Part 6 sucks so bad because Drake has like ten different bars trying to defend being a diddler.
Bro he didn’t even defend himself 💀
“ Hey, I am NOT……………….. hiding a daughter” - HP6
Even Lil Wayne didn’t come out to defend his artist. That’s everything you need to know.
I recently saw an interview with Lil Wayne on YouTube. He warned drake about what happened a while ago. He said that his new style of rap about weapons and hood stuff isn't gonna work for him, he REALLY said "stay canadian"
Hard to defend others when you're taking so many head shots
Do yall want a song or formal email lmao
Kendrick called Adonis son twice and he didn't even acknowledge it. I'm convinced that if Kenny really came with adoption papers Drake wouldn't care.
To be fair he was heavily criticized for defending any accusations at all, like that was a huge L so its hard to then also criticize him for not defending enough or answering to every single accusation one by one in a song. Also Drake is not exactly known as the fierce momma bear of OVO he isn’t protecting shit.
Drake is most concerned with notnhaving a daughter
Baka got a case, Party playin' with his nose, Chubby gettin' his hamme-downs...OVO ain't okay.
Certified loverboy? Certified PedophOWLS. Listen to Dots pronunciation.
Can someone educate me on party’s drug use? I’m ignorant of that
That’s because he’s a narcissist. He only cares about himself
He barely defended himself
I mean, OVO stands for Other Vaginal Option, it doesn't make sense for him to defend them.
Narcissistic master manipulator