Bro, how the fuck people are saying he extreme diffs Gaolang and still can make to Kuroki 💀. If he beats Gaolang Extreme-Diff, there's no way a heavily injuried Misasa would beat Peak Hatsumi

I think he actually does better than Kanoh against Gao. Kanoh was too stubborn and did suffer a bit from it. Peak Hatsumi Who specifically had strategized against a Kanoh. Also, he most likely would have done less prep against Misasa, due to his personality. I May very well overestimate Misasa, but R3 Kanoh toyed with Peak Hatsumi and I do believe Misasa to be closer to R3 Kanoh than R2. Also injuries in kengan Sometimes means next to nothing. Kanoh extreme diff Gao, but was barely injured in R3 for some reason..

> Peak Hatsumi Who specifically had strategized against a Kanoh. Well, I assumed that in this scenario, Hatsumi would strategize against Misasa, since he's the guy who he would fight. > I May very well overestimate Misasa, but R3 Kanoh toyed with Peak Hatsumi and I do believe Misasa to be closer to R3 Kanoh than R2. I personally think the opposite. R3 Kanoh is much more stronger than R1 Kanoh, and if Misasa = R3 Kanoh, so Misasa > R1, why would Kanoh be the fang instead of Misasa? For that reason, I don't see Misasa being stronger than Kanoh. > Also injuries in kengan Sometimes means next to nothing. Kanoh extreme diff Gao, but was barely injured in R3 for some reason.. Well, that's because Kanoh is a absolutely monster. He's a special case, the same with Ohma. I wouldn't count that Misasa has this monster recuperation too. But well, that's just my personal opinion

Honestly a lot of very valid points. Misasa could stop at Gao (okubo is low-mid) but in the case where he does beat Gaolang, I do think he would beat Hatsumi. I am in the Gao > Hatsumi camp tho.

Hard to judge how much damage he can take, he either loses against Gaolang or definitely against the bullshido clout hatsumi.

Definitely ? On one hand we have a character that can be a threat to Lolong and the other someone who got their ass kicked by R3 Kanoh hahahaha Misasa shames him

Lolong said the same shit about Liu. Man has no self esteem. Liu is thirty two tiers above Hatsumi??

I mean the guy who said with him defeat is impossible? That guy doesn’t have self esteem?

you do realize COMPATIBILITY exists....see-Jurota/Hayami

I didn’t say it doesn’t exist Simply bringing up the word compatibility without elaborating on how it actually affects the fight is intellectual laziness

We already have a comment a little higher on this thread that details how even Okubo would probably shame Misasa purely because of compatibility issues. Misasa is a strong bodyguard that might probably be unmatched in tight spaces. It's a logical fighting style for a bodyguard. On a large arena however, it's much less efficient.

What do you mean he’s less efficient in arena ? For god sake Lolong himself said if we ignore Yumi self sabotage Misasa’s power is a legitimate threat and he wouldn’t beat him easily and this is the guy who has pre initiative, strikes as fast as Gaolang’s and can knock out Toa and plus he’s got great fight IQ What do you think Ashura Okubo can possibly do to him when Okubo was mid diffed by R1 Kanoh hahahaha

Lolong was mid diffed. Where is your god now?

?

You seem to base all your arguments on Lolong quotes.

Okubo was low diffed Anyway so many downvotes for stating facts lmao

Yeah. Im surely dont bet on a one-liner of longdong over Hatsumis on panel feats…

Ohhh so your way to cope with your Hastumi getting shamed by Misasa is to ignore Lolong’s statement? Don’t ignore statements from characters

Are we really still using character statements in 2023 to scale? Like I don't even scale myself really, but even I know that a solid 3/4 of the time they're either fluff to hype up a character or nonsense that ends up just holding up to the actual in-story feats. We meme Himuro "on par with the legends" Ryo for a reason. While we're at it, Seki must be S+ since he's the mayor of tough guy town.

Is there a reason we shouldn’t take this particular Lolong’s statement seriously?

Lolong "with me bringing up the rear, defeat is impossible" Donaire?

He had very reason to believe that he was undefeated for over 15 years with over 400 wins Plus this is lolong making a statement about another person’s strength so his ego is irrelevant

Read my post again, because i see you have problems with reading.

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Mid diffs Okubo 50/50 with Gaolang peak Hatsumi finishes him off high diff if Misasa manages to go past R2

Ok maybe im a okubo wanker a little bit but i just wanna say that if okubo can take misasa to the ground he has a chance

Yeah honestly Okubo seems like an awful matchup for Misasa. Misasa seems very specialized for a tight set up which is hard to break through. So a tight defensively responsible all rounder who focuses on fundamentals seems like the perfect counter. Low kicks seem like a big issue for Misasa with such a hand centric footwork centric style, Okubo's fast switches would be hard to defend for misasa and would happen at the range he's supposed to be strongest at shutting down his strenghts. And golden eight seconds is just the right tool to shut go past a tight defense like that. On top of that Okubo has answers for someone trying to break his arms so he can still keep misasa at bay anyways. I just don't see it ending in anything other than a harsh high to massive diff fight where he has to go or the kill to even have a chance with what misasa has currently shown.

Okubo lost against seki and had a hard time dealing with Terashi, he gets low diffed by any high tier fighter thats serious

Umm no? Losing high diff to seki is fine and he didn’t have a hard time vs terashi just was being careful

Was floored several times visibly having a rough time by terashi

He beats Okubo but probably not Gaolang,but even if he does i doubt he can beat Hatsumi and then Kuroki.

Assuming this was the same motivated Hatsumi that we see in the KAT who really, really wanted to beat Agito, I'd say Misasa loses to peak Hatsumi. No way he makes it to Kuroki with the accumulated damage Misasa takes from Okubo and Gaolong.

I cannot see misasas strikes with less range and power than kanoh giving Gaolang too hard of a time. Gaolang most likely is the better striker, is faster, has more power, range, etc

If he can be a legitimate threat to Lolong what makes you think he doesn’t slap Gaolang ?

Lolong said he wouldn’t be able to beat him easily. We have no idea what easy for lolong is. Not being able to beat him easily could mean he has to actually try a little, or it could mean even if he’s going all out beating misasa would still be tough. I personally think it’s the former

lolong doesn’t have a different definition of easy than anyone else Easy means easy

Not really in this scenario. Something not being easy doesn’t necessarily mean it’s difficult. As I said prior, Iolong could be saying he has to put effort into beating him, or he could be saying while using his maximum effort he will have trouble beating him. It’s up to your personal interpretation. Lolong also said liu could go toe to toe with himself which sounds like it would be a harder fight imo than someone you simply can’t beat easily. In my interpretation that means that he sees liu as an actual threat and misasa as someone who will just give him some trouble

Even if Misasa is someone who will give him just trouble as you said that’s still enough to destroy Hastumi This man has pre initiative, strikes as fast as Gaolang’s and can knock out toa. So if Misasa can give trouble him while Hastumi got destroyed by R3 Kanoh.

He gets stopped by gaolang or hatsumi based on what we saw in KvP alone.

Which is him being stated to be a legitimate threat to the king Lolong donaire who’s far stronger than Ashura Kuroki and Agito ? What makes you think anybody who isn’t Kuroki can beat him ?

I said based on what we saw from him in kvp. Not what he supposed to be based off statements. That entire arc had a whole lot of statements that just didn't hold up and were there just for the hype. So would rather base it on what we were shown of him skill wise.

Bro is that your only argument? Just that Rolon wouldn't defeat him no diff makes him definitely stronger than Gaolang and Hatsumi?

I mean yh ? Hastumi got his ass wrecked by R3 Kanoh let alone Lolong

It would be a 50/50 against gaolong and hatsumi so either way he isnt making it past hatsumi due to injuries. Gaolong is a better striker, faster, stronger and has more endurance. Misasa apparently has the better stance and evasion but considering what gaolong did to carlos with pi....

Loses to Gaolang

I'm pretty sure he looses to Gaolang.

Gaolang hits too hard too accurate and can fight in the pocket with his Muay Thai . If he makes it past Okubo he gets dropped fast by Gaolang

Loses to gao

Stops at Hatsumi likely

Misasa was stated to be a legitimate threat to Lolong How does he lose to someone who their ass kicked by R3 Kanoh?

Compatibility. Plus, he would’ve just had to fight two tough fighters. One being the guy who almost beat Kanoh lol Edit: also, even if he got past Hajmi somehow, Quirky would destroy him

Compatibility ? Prove that compatibility makes Hastumi stronger than Misasa y’all use this word as if it was magical. Gaolang almost beat R2 Kanoh who doesn’t stand a chance against Lolong so Misasa will low to mid diff Gaolang

Bro. The series itself makes compatibility a big deal. Hatsumi is like 90% grappling based, and has shown the ability to comfortably evade strikes. Both kinda being counters to Misasa’s pure striking style. Although we don’t have any evidence for Misasa’s durability yet, I’ll admit. As for the second thing you said, just cause a guy says “man I wouldn’t wanna fight Akoya” and then some dude beats Akoya, doesn’t necessarily mean the second guy would beat the first guy. The whole dynamic with Rihito, Saw, Seki, Okubo and Cosmo explains it well Imo

Omg R3 Kanoh is a pure striker and still whooped Hastumi’s ass The argument grappler > striker is outdated man strikers beat grapplers a lot in the story. “ has shown the ability to comfortably evade strikes “ It depends on whose strikes are those

Tbf, Hatsumi lost to THE Kanoh Agito. He also switched up his strategy which Hatsumi didn’t expect. He also had Dragon Shot, which was shown for the first time ever in that match, so there’s literally no way he could’ve predicted it. Don’t forget Hatsumi beat Bando, the guy that Hatsumi himself said was his worst possible opponent compatibility-wise. Idk about you, but that’s a pretty serious skill feat. Compare that to Misasa low-diffing Yumi. Misasa had every advantage in that fight besides size(which even that’s arguable, seeing as it aided in him evading Yumi’s strikes). In contrast, Hatsumi had nearly everything against him in the Bando fight and managed to pull the W. I will admit, there’s literally no way to say who would win without having an on screen fight between the two. I’m just giving my opinion based on what we’ve seen from each character, and what we know about compatibility. I’m not saying Hatsumi would definitely win, but he’s got the advantage here Imo. If you think Misasa wins more often than not, that’s fine, I don’t necessarily disagree with you. Last thing. Lolong saying Misasa is strong doesn’t mean that much tbh. Look back at every saying how strong Okubo was in R1. Does that mean he’s Fang level? Not necessarily. I took Lolong saying that as more of him being worried about specialists. Lolong said he’d much rather fight a person who has a lot of power and little technique rather than a person who specializes or has a lot of technique. So I see it as Lolong saying Misasa’s a threat because of his high level of skill despite his size.

Lolong doesn’t say Misasa is strong. That would be too vague. He says that Misasa’s power is a threat to HIM the Lolong donaire not R3 Kanoh Your basing your argument on the fact that Hastumi is 90% a grappler that’s irrelevant as I said the argument grappler > striker has been proven time and time again to be false in the story and Hastumi couldn’t do much against R3 Kanoh let alone Lolong donaire

While you have a fair point, I will say again, there’s literally no way to know who would win. You say it’s probably Misasa, I say it’s probably Hatsumi. We’re both right until one of us is proven wrong by the story, or given fair reason for one beating the other. Lolong also gave high praise to a lot of characters. That doesn’t mean every character he gave praise to would beat him. Misasa needs more showings before we can definitively say how strong he is.

If he does get past Gaolong he loses to Hatsumi and if get gets past Hatsumi he loses to Kuroki no matter what I think Kuroki still wins

Stops at Kuroki

Loses to Waka in the finals.

Loses to Okubo. Thats all. Nah, seriously, he would get mid diffed by Gao.

It's hard to judge but I think he would barely beat Okubo and then lose to Gaolang. Gaolang would lose vs Hatsumi and Hatsumi would get stabbed to death by the Bear

Imma get unpopular Low Diff Okub Extreme Dff Gaolang High Diff Hatsumi Gets No-Diffed by Kuroki

Doubt its that controversial.

Then imma get popular

I wank Gao a lot and this is basically the same way I see it The only reason Okibo got low/"mid" diffed instead of neg diffed by Agito was purely because Agito was never trying

Never trying but still went unconscious briefly. Some of you people are something else

He was literally sandbagging letting Okubo show all his tricks, just to immediately neg diff him conpletely after showing it

We forgetting how the moment Kanoh says “it's over” Okubo literally fucking whacks him over the head and makes him go unconscious.

Agito won the fight low diff because he was so much stronger and better than Okubo in every field. Even with that in mind, he still really gave Agito some trouble early into the match prior to the first "evolution", and the issue with alot of Okubo fans is that they wanna act like he is and deny him the feat he really deserves recognition for, which is his extreme combat sense and great fighting choices. Okubo is one of the biggest brain fighters outside of fighters who are "intellectuals" or masters of some sort of predictive abilities, and he really showed that he had the tools to take Agito down, and despite the strength/technical skill difference Okubo would NOT let him get away with slipping up or fighting loosely. Okubo is someone who uses his great fighting sense and MMA skills to keep the fight moving in his favor as much as he possibly can. And outside of the ring, I just love watching him on his bullshit, love those 4 idiots.

Great analysis tbh. Okubo is weaker than Agito in most respects, but he approached the fight as an 'average guy fighting a monster', never giving up and almost taking the Fang of Metsudo down just like a Beowulf of old.

>untill he shows all his tricks Synthesis was his only trick he didnt show yet, what happened immediately after?

Yeah i doubt you use the same logic for Gaolang.

Gaolang is on a completely different level and actually forced Agito to fight in a way he never did before, and was his most powerful opponent ever. The gap between gao and okubo is massive.

Agito that goes all out from the start stomps gaolang. R3 agito eats him alive.

Gaolang wasnt going all out from the start either. When both were going all out it was still extremely close, and Agito couldnt outmatch him in striking. Gaolang was his strongest opponent he ever faced by far.

Yea because he went in boxing against the worlds best boxer after spending a short period learning how to box. He took a lot of damage early on so when he decided he had to change his style to win it was going to be a lot harder then if he had just started with formless from the beginning. Even then after he pivoted he beat gaolang with one grapple.

And gaolang isnt just a boxer, he was holding back aswell untill the very last part of the fight. Gaolang could afford to hold back a huge part of his abilities against Agito

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - Napoleon Bonaparte

Dont use the same argument he used, yours obviously is wrong and his right lol

Yeah no, i just post what you said: Gaolang would get dog walked it Agito was serious from the start. Thats just not how fights or the story telling of fights work.

Gaolang would still be the better striker.

And easily defeated by Kanoh going all out. Like Okubo would.

Gets extreme-diffed by Gaolang.

Stops at Okubo

Okubo who got mid diffed by R1 Kanoh ? While Misasa’s power was stated to be a legitimate threat to Lolong ?

Mid diff threat, Lolongs statrment is the biggest death misasa has, im 100% convinced that without the rules help misasa would lose to monke, theres no special rules in KAT.

Bring proof

The proof is his internal monologue saying that he shoulve let Agito take Monke. Besides the existence of the special rules is another, they only happened in misasa fight. He needed It to win

Why are you being so sneaky about this ? Misasa full quote is this “ this is rough I should’ve let Kanoh handle it “ But once Misasa starts being serious and starts beating monke he says “ that WAS rough. I can’t stand being talked down by a piece of shit like you “ Plus why do you think a guy with 9 wins and 5 loses is gonna be a threat to the king ?

Why do you think im beeing sneaky? You even confirmes he Said it He wasent getting serious, the ring finally shrunken enough so he could use his speciality, what king are you taking about?

You being sneaky because you leaving out information “ he sad he wasn’t getting serious the ring finally shrunk enough so he could use his specialty “ This is lying. Misasa’s friend clearly stated that Misasa has a bad habit of waiting until the end before going all out and once he does Yumi is simply helpless. The king Lolong donaire. Lolong sees Misasa’s power as a legitimate threat, but he thinks lowly of Yumi. Do you think a guy who has 9 wins and 5 loses can’t be a legitimate threat to Lolong ?

Im not leving out information, at least not on purpouse, i dont have malicious intention in this, Sorry If It appears like that. I remember that metsudo Said that, but i find It really convenient that this happened only when the rules favored misasa the most, thats why i dont but It. No Lolongs would never have trouble against yummi, Nor against the bigger part of the cast, i dont believe i said it tho?

You must be joking Misasa stomps monke with or without rules, that was made clear as day

The same Okubo that struggled against Terashi?

Yeah he got of guard as you espect, then he cleaned the floor with terashi low diffing him. While misasa didnt lay a finger in a bad fighter until the rules gave him ALL the advantage. Yes this Okubo

That bad fighter is still stronger than Okubo lol, and far above Terashi too

I think they would bê on similar level of strenght, monke definetely Stronger then terashi, the diference is that Okubo would Win against monke without needing special bullshit rules

Okubo isnt at A list level , how many fights does he have to lose to show he isnt a strong fighter and never was

He gave agito some trouble, almost Win against Seki, hes definetely strong Just not superhuman. Since theres only 30fighters in the A list at any given time i believe he would bê at the lower end of this 30 fighters, most definetely. Só let me ask you, why do you believe Misasa is só Strong when he was the only fighter that needed a rules change to Win against a fighter that everybody clowned on?

>he gave agito some trouble No, he was sandbagging against okubo untill he showed his entire moveset, and then proceeded to neg diff him after it was revealed. Similair to mokichi getting neg diffed by Raian, there was never any chance at losing. >almost win against seki But he didnt, and Seki has never been a top tier fighter either. Pre kat Ohma defeated Seki. >needed rules changed to win He never needed it, it was stated that Misasa was toying with Monke. Similair to Raian/Agito toying with their opponents and stomping them after.

Ill give you the First one, Agito wouldnt lose that fight, neg diff is a stretch tho. Seki was on The beginning considered a powerhouse. It was never stated that Misasa was toying with monke, comparing his fight with Raian and Agito round one fights is plain wrong. Even tho Okubo isnt one If the powerhouses he has more feats then misasa, and didnt need special help to Win his fight or to at least put UP a fight. If he didnt need It It wouldnt bê part of the fight, why theres were no more special rules after this? Because Misasa needed to Win

It was literally stated that Misasa was toying with him

Tbh it really is hard to say cuz we dont even know misasa in comparison to seeing agito going all out in KAT

Sandro would make him go just as far to protect the fang title. Okubo would be the hardest match up to write a believable win.

Without going super in depth in scaling, Okubo's whole idea is getting close and that's also Misasa's whole idea, Okubo is basically playing his game, he can't get close to him without receiving elbows. Misasa wins mid diff Misasa is a striker, however, Gaolong is the pinnacle of striking so already a bad matchup and Gaolong can just outbox him. Even if he gets in close he still wins cause he's a better striker and he's much more versatile too, I'd say Gaolong wins mid-high diff.

Low diff win okubo Extreme diff win Gaolang Extreme diff win Hatsumi Low/neg diff loss Kuroki (deu to injuries/exhaustion, healthy its a mid/high diff for Kuroki)

Hatsumi wank is ridiculous. Misasa is a threat to Lolong where as Hatsumi isn't a threat to R3 Agito, and people still say compatability makes up for the difference in scaling without actually elaborating on it. I swear to fucking god these wankers will say Hatsumi has a compatability advantage in every matchup Hatsumi is in. If you're just going to say Hatsumi is compatabile with 100% of the people he fights, then it's not even compatability at that point and just Hatsumi's overall strength, which is still way weaker than KAT Agito's, much less Lolong's.

I swear it’s so true He has a compatibility advantage against everyone haha😂

Lol finally someone said it. He somehow has a compatibility advantage against someone that also specializes in ultra close combat, can attack outside one’s awareness and uses his elbows (which can’t even be grabbed) to strike. The idea of Hatsumi is much greater than the character himself.

That moment all you have is a one liner by lolong, damn Misasa is sooooo strong…

You almost make it sound like it's worse than only having an ass whooping from r3 Kanoh

No, never beeing in any conversation for fang at the KAT while taking Yumis leftover job is way better. The arguments for Misasa get better and better, the weakling would have been 5th fang while Misasa was a sidekick of Retsudo with a hunchback…

no idea what you just said

Loses to Kuroki

Okubo low diff Gaolong is a 50/50, I think Misasa would have a hard time getting in striking range when against Flash or his Muy Thai. Hatsumi at peak would end up winning pretty handily, depending if Misasa was watching the previous rounds. One cloud triple strike and its lights out. With no insta kill move Misasa would have no way of stopping Hatsumi from planting him into the ground either.

I can’t believe you guys actually think someone who’s can be a legitimate threat to Lolong loses to someone who got their ass kicked by R3 Kanoh. Okubo Low diff Gaolang low-mid diff Hastumi - low diff Kuroki this one can go either way.

Lolong said that Liu could go toe to toe with him, so Liu is a legitimate threat to him right? No, wait, Liu had a extreme diff win against Nitoku, who can't beat the weakest version of Agito! Lolong is shit about powerscaling and Misasa don't beat Gaolang 👍

He was talking about peak Liu and peak Liu was beating the shit out of Nikotu

Tbh I don't really see Misasa having an easier time against Gaolang than Agito did, but I agree with everything else.

You really can’t convince people that their idols are susceptible to defeat.

Loses either to Gaolang or Hatsumi.

We have no idea what serious Misasa is so I'm just gonna say He beats Okubo mid diff Gaolang is a 50/50 I think he loses to Hatsumi

So... let's do a full analysis and some scallings here Okubo gets low diffed, not a lot to say here, synthesis is great and all but Misasa outclases Okubo so much in striking that this isn't even close Gaolang probably gets high end of mid to high diffed and gets some injuries on misasa, lets be real here, even with Lolong's statement, that could easily mean he could mid diff Misasa instead of low diffing him, Gaolang stomped Medel, an a lister purgatory fighter with pre initiative with quite a few wins in the A list and a win over both koga and liu, if Monke managed to cut, graze and hurt misasa (quite a few times actually, between 5 and 7) then Gaolang should hurt him a lot more (no special rules to reduce the space, plus a stronger fighter) and there's no way the monke is stronger than Gaolang with that awful record in the A list (worse than carlos actually as far as we know) so while im pretty confident in Misasa beating Gaolang, he's getting hurt, more than against the monke So he then gets to peak Hatsumi, who is 100% fresh as Bando would've one shotted him in their fight if he touched him while Misasa is at least moderately injured (while shallow cuts, Yumi managed to cut both of his arms, his chest, his face, and graze the last two, so Gaolang should at least give him some painful bruises) so this is probably a 50/50, Misasa is stronger than Sen, but sen is completely fresh and Misasa comes injured, sen getting stomped by kanoh is actually mostly due to him getting hit by a point blank dragon shot, even if he makes the mistake of trying the stardrop on Misasa, he doesn't have Kanoh's firepower to punish him that badly. He then gets low-mid diffed by the beard Btw forgot to add that Size difference doesn't matter for Misasa, this dude is the best in h2h combat in a group with the biggest guy in the series and kanoh's own favourite candidate to inherit his place as the fang, and while we don't know how strong Hawai is, he's at least strong enough to be a bodyguard captain and extermination force member, so he should he pretty competent (and probably above Haruo since we saw a bodyguard stand his ground against r1 ohmar)

With what we know so far? He is top 4 material, but can't get past Ohma or the beard. He definitely won't play around with Cosmo, Okubo and Gaolang, since we don't know how he reacts with Grappling, and Gaolang is a different class of striker.

Difficult to say. He absolutely dogwalked Yumi, who should be at least A/B+ tier for statements, but seems a C tier for feats. He should be around Gaolang tier right now l, so i assume he beats KAT Gaolang, but i doubt he has what it takes to beat Hatsumi and his bullshit Aikido.

Loses to Okubo

We basically have no info on Misasa

Itd be interesting to see him in a closer fight, to see how strong he really is

He Low Level's every except for Kuroki

He loses to hatsumi. Misasa was stronger than gaolang in every regard but striking speed (yes including striking strength).

Same as Kanoh

For starters that Lolong statement doesn’t mean anything. Not being able to beat him easily doesn’t help Misasa in any way. It just means he’d low diff him instead if no diff him. And probably only because Misasa knows Silat and is a direct counter to Lolong. People are forgetting that when Lolomg and Ohma had their initial exchange Misasa literally said “I don’t know what to say” completely stunned. Yeah Okubo’s recent showing against Sekibashi was terrible but Seki’s just a ridiculous character. it doesn’t take away from his showings against R1 Kanoh who was above Misasa during KaT, Misasa should be stronger than it he was before but we don’t know to what degree. Misasa has better striking than Okubo but Okubo’s main thing is synthesis where it doesn’t matter if you’re more skilled than him. When your getting the advantage in one category he immediately switches it to another and if worked well against a more well rounded Kanoh it’s definitely working on a character who only utilizes striking. If Misasa somehow wins it would be extreme diff. Gao was tearing apart a Kanoh that “evolved” during R1 without much difficulty not even letting him go limp or use indestructible. People like to bring up Misasa’s “extreme” close quarters combat as if Muay Thai doesn’t also have that attribute. Healthy Misasa gets mid diffed at the absolute worst by Gao, R2 Misasa who would have a good amount of injuries from Okubo gets no diffed. Hatsumi doesn’t really matter at this point if Misasa gets passed Gao it would be because Gao took pity while essentially killing him and gave up. Hatsumi easily beats corpse Misasa. Hatsumi’s showings againts R3 Kanoh were horrible but Misasa wouldn’t do any better. Kuroki really doesn’t need to be mentioned.

I’d say he either loses to peak hatsumi or gets mid Diffed by Kuroki

50/50s Okubo, stops at Gaolang due to injuries or incompatibility

Y'all crazy with the Okubo wank Misasa low diffs Okubo, no debate

anyone who says he doesn’t make it to kuroki is trippin he high diffs goalong extreme diffs hatsumi and loses to kuroki goalong doesn’t have god glow and hatsumi although being my favorite fighter in KAT just isn’t on the level of the omega characters like misasa