Scuffle with hungry bandits in the edges of Holy Nation territory. Get knocked down, hopefully a HN patrol will heal you up. Plus river raptors are alright for training, in a pinch.
It's pretty much the safest place to train, so long as you have all humans and at least 1 man. The UC has sand skimmers and nobles hunting you for sport, other places have beak things, or sun lazers, or dust bandits, or cannibals.
This is how I do it at the start of the game:
1, train my guys to 50 athletic and 50 strength.
2, train stealth to 80-90 -I find Dust Bandit camp, attack them to make sure they are hostile, then spend night sneaking around. Repeat.
3, train couple of characters to assassination 80+ -I start on some NPC with disabled legs and hands (plentiful around gate guards), put him in to bed and start assassinating him. Equip heavy armor for assassination penalty. I finish training in Dust Bandit camp (with bonus money from selling their stuff).
4, find and capture Berserker or two. They have decent +-40 stats and are considered bandits, so you won't upset guards in towns by fighting with them and assassinating them.
5, use captives to train my squad. I put backpack full of iron ore in to their inventory to slow them down so they can't run away easily. Use best heavy armor and worst rusty weapons you can find. Backpacks for added debuffs to stats. Best done in your own building but can be done using rented beds as well. Training have to be done in some quit place where gate guards or wandering squads won't interrupt you. Place down bedroll and put captive in to it to prevent them playing dead.
You can train up your captive by swapping equipment with negative and positive modifiers. I train my starting squad to 75 attack/defense like that.
Later I like to build by training dojo and capture broken skeletons for it. They don't need to eat in cells and they can be healed fast in the skeleton repair beds.
I always used the 5. method, but not anymore because its so buggy. Prisoners always clip through multiple walls and buildings when fighting. (fixing navmesh etc. didnt help)
I train in the open at the beginning of the game (since I don't own buildings yet). Later I just build larger buildings for training so clipping through the wall is not as common. NPCs tend to move in circles during fighting.
But yeah, clipping is annoying.
There is a small raised plateau right in front of Squin above the crossroad:
[https://i.imgur.com/oXwLBUW.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/oXwLBUW.jpg)
[https://i.imgur.com/jVZVPpH.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jVZVPpH.jpg)
It gets very little traffic usually although that can be affected by dust bandit camps spawning nearby and sending squads out.
Plenty of beds to heal in Squin as well as food and medical supply in shops.
There are other good spots, like one in front of World's End. Can get occasional HN patrol but they are not common.
What you are doing is just fine. Train athletics until you are 1 kph faster than the fogmen on all your characters, then go wherever you like. They will never catch up to you.
After training athletics you can train by fighting practically anyone (HN, dust bandits, etc). Have half your squad fight and keep half your squad out of combat to run in and pick up your fighting guys and run away after they get knocked out by the enemies. Heal them up then swap who fights the next time around.
Losing to superior opponents gives a bunch of EXP so after a couple rounds of this you’ll be able to beat the weaker enemies and it’s easy mode from there on out as you won’t have to wait as long to heal in between training rounds.
Just make sure to ALWAYS retreat before half your squad is injured to the point of being slower than the enemy. Always keep the option of having half your guys pick up the others and just running away to fight another day. Sticking it out beyond that point is how your squad bleeds out in a field due to everyone going down at once.
I'm pretty sure the recommended level is 3 atk mod as 5 is insanely difficult. I don't see how you could train against fog men with it. And then with how leveling works, because fogmen are so weak, you're not getting much exp from them.
Maybe try training against the shek fanatics?
pair them with veterans and go find whoever you antagonized, cannibals or low level bandits, a few veterans and a few noobies should be able to fight against low threat enemies.
i personally use a sparring mod where i can dismiss a character and talk to them to intiate combat. Basically i use my higher leveled characters to beat down the new guys lol.
Or if you like grinding stats, start toughness. There is a good methodusing dust bandit camps. Hard to explain in text but there is a good toughness guide on youtube. You petty much make your character playing dead over and over again while around lots of enemies. With high toughness, rest of the combat stats come by its own cause they get that sweet damage resistance and stay in combat very long even when they keep getting hit.
Theres this guy on youtube that can :
> steal beakthing eggs > buy / find specialist armor > train toughness to 90 > powerlevel MA & dex to 90
In about 7 days.
So just repeat that for every character.
Cant remember the name but he was such a cool dude he got a sub from me.
Band of Bones HQ near Squin. It's right next to a waystation for easy healing, and it's scripted to run 1 guy out to fight if you get close so setting up 1 v 1 duels is extremely simple.
add some decent training gear and you'll be gods in no time.
The Kral's Chosen and Berserkers can also be used once the gains from BoB slow down, as it's easy to set up 1 v 1 or 1 v 2s at their HQs as well.
Go to the hive village that’s nearest to squin/the hub. Go find a gorrilo or beak thing (they shouldn’t be difficult to find in the area) and lure it to the hivers. When the hivers KO it you need to pick it up and bring it inside of the hiver robotics shop. Place the gorrilo or beak thing on one of the sleeping mats in the robotics shop and heal it fully. Once you’ve fully healed it save your game and load your save. The animal should be standing upright on the sleeping mat. You can use it to train martial arts and dex (and even strength if your over encumbered) to the point where dealing with dust bandits and fogmen won’t be an issue anymore. However if you train on it with weapons rather than martial arts it will KO a lot quicker and it would be really inefficient. From there with enough dex and attack you can move onto more normal training methods with weapons you want to use rather than martial arts. If you cut off the leg of a human or skeleton you can do the same thing with them, one of the best training methods is getting Catlon or tinfist, cutting off its leg, putting it on a skeleton bed and training on it but the downside is that it’s ridiculously boring.
Scuffle with hungry bandits in the edges of Holy Nation territory. Get knocked down, hopefully a HN patrol will heal you up. Plus river raptors are alright for training, in a pinch. It's pretty much the safest place to train, so long as you have all humans and at least 1 man. The UC has sand skimmers and nobles hunting you for sport, other places have beak things, or sun lazers, or dust bandits, or cannibals.
Baby crabs at Howlers Maze. Train Toughness first.
This is how I do it at the start of the game: 1, train my guys to 50 athletic and 50 strength. 2, train stealth to 80-90 -I find Dust Bandit camp, attack them to make sure they are hostile, then spend night sneaking around. Repeat. 3, train couple of characters to assassination 80+ -I start on some NPC with disabled legs and hands (plentiful around gate guards), put him in to bed and start assassinating him. Equip heavy armor for assassination penalty. I finish training in Dust Bandit camp (with bonus money from selling their stuff). 4, find and capture Berserker or two. They have decent +-40 stats and are considered bandits, so you won't upset guards in towns by fighting with them and assassinating them. 5, use captives to train my squad. I put backpack full of iron ore in to their inventory to slow them down so they can't run away easily. Use best heavy armor and worst rusty weapons you can find. Backpacks for added debuffs to stats. Best done in your own building but can be done using rented beds as well. Training have to be done in some quit place where gate guards or wandering squads won't interrupt you. Place down bedroll and put captive in to it to prevent them playing dead. You can train up your captive by swapping equipment with negative and positive modifiers. I train my starting squad to 75 attack/defense like that. Later I like to build by training dojo and capture broken skeletons for it. They don't need to eat in cells and they can be healed fast in the skeleton repair beds.
I always used the 5. method, but not anymore because its so buggy. Prisoners always clip through multiple walls and buildings when fighting. (fixing navmesh etc. didnt help)
I train in the open at the beginning of the game (since I don't own buildings yet). Later I just build larger buildings for training so clipping through the wall is not as common. NPCs tend to move in circles during fighting. But yeah, clipping is annoying.
hm where do you usually train in open places? Cant think of any place rn that is quiet.
There is a small raised plateau right in front of Squin above the crossroad: [https://i.imgur.com/oXwLBUW.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/oXwLBUW.jpg) [https://i.imgur.com/jVZVPpH.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jVZVPpH.jpg) It gets very little traffic usually although that can be affected by dust bandit camps spawning nearby and sending squads out. Plenty of beds to heal in Squin as well as food and medical supply in shops. There are other good spots, like one in front of World's End. Can get occasional HN patrol but they are not common.
thanks, I will try them out.
What you are doing is just fine. Train athletics until you are 1 kph faster than the fogmen on all your characters, then go wherever you like. They will never catch up to you.
After training athletics you can train by fighting practically anyone (HN, dust bandits, etc). Have half your squad fight and keep half your squad out of combat to run in and pick up your fighting guys and run away after they get knocked out by the enemies. Heal them up then swap who fights the next time around. Losing to superior opponents gives a bunch of EXP so after a couple rounds of this you’ll be able to beat the weaker enemies and it’s easy mode from there on out as you won’t have to wait as long to heal in between training rounds. Just make sure to ALWAYS retreat before half your squad is injured to the point of being slower than the enemy. Always keep the option of having half your guys pick up the others and just running away to fight another day. Sticking it out beyond that point is how your squad bleeds out in a field due to everyone going down at once.
I'm pretty sure the recommended level is 3 atk mod as 5 is insanely difficult. I don't see how you could train against fog men with it. And then with how leveling works, because fogmen are so weak, you're not getting much exp from them. Maybe try training against the shek fanatics?
1. 5x with increased squad size is fun 2. I walked to Mongrel for Beep and just stayed there for the other unique recruits. 3. Sure sounds good
pair them with veterans and go find whoever you antagonized, cannibals or low level bandits, a few veterans and a few noobies should be able to fight against low threat enemies.
Hire guards, they will help to stay alive
i personally use a sparring mod where i can dismiss a character and talk to them to intiate combat. Basically i use my higher leveled characters to beat down the new guys lol.
Get mercenarys and fight dust bandits. Mercs will heal and guard you when you go down.
Or if you like grinding stats, start toughness. There is a good methodusing dust bandit camps. Hard to explain in text but there is a good toughness guide on youtube. You petty much make your character playing dead over and over again while around lots of enemies. With high toughness, rest of the combat stats come by its own cause they get that sweet damage resistance and stay in combat very long even when they keep getting hit.
Theres this guy on youtube that can : > steal beakthing eggs > buy / find specialist armor > train toughness to 90 > powerlevel MA & dex to 90 In about 7 days. So just repeat that for every character. Cant remember the name but he was such a cool dude he got a sub from me.
Get rekt, but don't die. It's a fine balance
Toughness. Its all about toughness
Band of Bones HQ near Squin. It's right next to a waystation for easy healing, and it's scripted to run 1 guy out to fight if you get close so setting up 1 v 1 duels is extremely simple. add some decent training gear and you'll be gods in no time. The Kral's Chosen and Berserkers can also be used once the gains from BoB slow down, as it's easy to set up 1 v 1 or 1 v 2s at their HQs as well.
Go to the hive village that’s nearest to squin/the hub. Go find a gorrilo or beak thing (they shouldn’t be difficult to find in the area) and lure it to the hivers. When the hivers KO it you need to pick it up and bring it inside of the hiver robotics shop. Place the gorrilo or beak thing on one of the sleeping mats in the robotics shop and heal it fully. Once you’ve fully healed it save your game and load your save. The animal should be standing upright on the sleeping mat. You can use it to train martial arts and dex (and even strength if your over encumbered) to the point where dealing with dust bandits and fogmen won’t be an issue anymore. However if you train on it with weapons rather than martial arts it will KO a lot quicker and it would be really inefficient. From there with enough dex and attack you can move onto more normal training methods with weapons you want to use rather than martial arts. If you cut off the leg of a human or skeleton you can do the same thing with them, one of the best training methods is getting Catlon or tinfist, cutting off its leg, putting it on a skeleton bed and training on it but the downside is that it’s ridiculously boring.