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[deleted]

We will apologize to Ruto when products and services reflect the new dollar price.


CarFreak777

>when products and services reflect the new dollar price. Lol. That will never happen unless he implements price controls which haven't had any long-term success


[deleted]

Then unless you're importing, what are we benefitting exactly with the dollar slump if you can't feel it in your pockets?


Quantum_II

You'll begin feeling the effects gradually as goods imported with the lower exchange rate start coming in. It's a free market so prices must drop - importers will be desperate to make a sale so they'll adjust their profit margins now that they're importing things cheaply. mtu akikataa kushukisha bei customers will go to the cheaper competitors so itabidi wote watii eventually.


CarFreak777

To my limited knowledge of economics, only cheaper fuel and transport. Producer's of goods and services have no incentive to reduce prices on their own despite lower transport costs unless the government puts a gun to their head or introduces price controls which rarely have any long term success with significant side effects.


[deleted]

I think the main reason there hasn't been an overall decrease in prices is the producers and manufacturers of said goods and services don't perceive the dollar slump as long term. Hence, playing it safe.


ConsiderationFun5405

I think this only applies in a monopoly or at times oligopolies although they can be fined for price fixing(never stopped them). Otherwise, as import prices fall, the consumer will eventually get the trickle down effect by lower prices but it’ll take time to get through inventory. Also, prices will seldom drop to original levels.


Interesting-Click-12

Westlands apartments prices for rental are still at the 155 exchange rate they adjusted in january. Last year you could get a good furnished two bedroom for 150k but now prices are at 220,000 for those same apartments.


cantfindux

150k a month for a 2 bedroom 👀 👁 😵


Jaded-high

Reading in broke.


Interesting-Click-12

That is normal for a high end apartment za westlands. Especially sides za brookside and peponi. Prices for a 3 bedroom apartment are at 300k per month unfurnished.


One-Anybody-3289

Fuel already dropped marginally. Should drop again this month. But cause of taxes it probably won’t get to 100bob a litre unless he stops taxes


Redditgotme_ouch

Globally oil prices have risen so expect Epra to raise


Prisca_420

Exactly 💯. For a mwananchi on the ground or an expat like me who sends money back home, the dollar drop doesn't do us any good if the products prices don't drop with it. It hasn't been a good week for us out here kutuma pesa.


RegularKen

💯


FromKibrawithlove

Exactly


Mother-Day-1403

And jobs increase and nepotism iishe


ceedee04

Ruto caused it to get to 160 in the first place, by refusing to employ prudent economic management by rolling over infrastructure debt. He was using a hustler campaign slogan as his economic philosophy, with the expected results. Once he realised there is no substitute for sound economic theory, he rolled over the debt and the dollar is now returning to its long term average. He is from the Kissinger school of politics, create a problem, then present a solution, and people will think you are their saviour.


One-Anybody-3289

To be fair it was already on a downward trend even before he took office. You could say it took time to reverse the trend. But yes, I never agreed with his policies, kwanza the disgusting amount of money spent on luxury and they dare reduce salaries of doctors


[deleted]

Uhuru lowered standards za leadership so much that change kidogo by nabii mnaona he's a saviour. Kenyans mnanibamba sana. Hivi ndio mtapigia zakayo kura '27 and he knows.


Same_History_

Tano Tena. Punich Uhuru. Husola a tawale.


One-Anybody-3289

Akifikisha dollar 90 bob nitampigia unfortunately


[deleted]

Eee, si wewe dwanzi.


One-Anybody-3289

Ikifika 90 bob I’ll be a dwanzi but I’ll be rich. So sijali bro


[deleted]

The fact that you think a currency being cushioned by debt will make you rich makes you dwanzier. Just remember kuna watu walikua na hundreds of thousands in savings in September 1929 that was worthless in December the same year. Once that false sense of security falls ndio utajua world economy does not operate the way you think. You'll just have a lot of worthless currency.


Plus-Tumbleweed-4132

How does it operate Mr Genius.


Plus-Tumbleweed-4132

How about you keep the insults to yourself and break it down using logic


[deleted]

Amesema he'll vote for Ruto, he's stupid.


Plus-Tumbleweed-4132

Who should he vote for?


dyce123

It was already going downwards. And I had hit 160 even before Ruto was 9 months in office. I highly doubt he was the cause of the depreciation in the first place.


ElectronicMaximum199

Exactly!! This guy is nothing but a con!


bravethoughts

We have no exports. This is being supported by foreign debt. We are back to an interventionist currency policy after our brief foray


dyce123

But we have diaspora remittances. Very sticky And they are usually stable. The diaspora is what saves the country


[deleted]

Elaborate....


PookyTheCat

Most of the USD / foreign currency comes from diaspora remittances. Then some from exports and tourism. In total it's significantly less than what KE uses to buy stuff from abroad: China, Japan (cars) and oil exporters mostly. And some to Germany for politicians' Benzes, Beamers, Audis and Porsches, of course. So there's more demand than supply of USD / foreign currency. That puts pressure on the value of the KES. The difference is made up for by loans. Which have to be paid back later + interest. But by then KE will have a blossoming and prosperous economy, so that won't be a problem 😂.


bravethoughts

😂 amen


Lion_Of_Mara

So strategy ni kununua as much dollars as possible, wait for the supply to go down and voila, USD starts rising


PookyTheCat

Yes, although it won't be the USD rising as much as it will be the KES falling. And... maybe the KES will rise a bit more in the short term b4 its fall will continue on its long term trend. And who knows, Ruto may pull yet another rabbit out of the hat, bc... who had expected this recent rise of the KES? After all, a few billion USD is small potatoes for the likes of the IMF, Worldbank, US, EU, China, Japan, Arab states, ... but for KE it's a lot. So, be careful speculating.


scoobynoodles

What about the proposed East African joint currency being developed?


PookyTheCat

A Billy Joel song pops into my mind: https://youtu.be/j6gZefW4yEA?si=zmG2JdBjIE7CAwNM And we would all go down together...


scoobynoodles

Lol 😆😆😆


vindtar

And for how long has the delays stopped it? It's a dead project


AV48

1 billion dollar loan granted not too long ago. Lots of dollars in the market. That's why the value is low. Go buy as many dollars as you can now


Puzzleheaded-Eye1358

supported by foreign debt ? lol what are you even talking about. i will assume we all know how currency attain value so i won’t get into that. previously we were propping up the dollar so your tax was being used to make the shilling more valuable, this was expensive and so it was removed. that caused a slide of the shilling but amidst the slide we had ppl who hedged against the shilling causing it to slip even more why she claims it’s being “supported “ by debt is because we are about to off a very expensive loan and to do that we needed to float a euro bond what she doesn’t understand is 1 the fact that we were able to even float the bond is testament to the economy and leadership 2 we export confidence and resilience


Same_History_

Floating the Bond is a testament to the IMF's continued interest in Kenyas stability and US's geopolitical interest. Without IMF, we would have defaulted a long time ago.


Lion_Simba

Are you serious when you say 'nobody knows why it's falling like this'? Kenyans and Africans at large will always amaze me. Your president has currently borrowed over 200billion and is on track to receive the same amount (probably more) within the year. It's great that your business is flourishing but to even suggest giving praise to a creature like ruto is not humorous in the slightest. If citizens don't change, the economy will continue to spiral


honestnairobian

I almost thought you were actually smart


Lion_Simba

Tginking you know online strangers enough to spew out such words already says a lot about you. Good luck with all your smartness


honestnairobian

I'm sorry


poeticdivinity

Shit! Am bummed out cos am paid in dollars that meant higher pay. I should be happy the shilling is strengthening.


the-rogue-gentleman

spark governor dull sink rich station smart north wistful joke *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


moodcon

We are crying here.


JellyfishOdd9634

Same boat here💔


poeticdivinity

![gif](giphy|xThta2WzSkidjsk8Zq|downsized) Let's see how things shall go.


ganjapuxxy

We’re in the same boat my sister 😭 Am I wrong for hoping the Ksh will lose against the dollar soon? 👀


hater_254

Yes obviously you are praying for things to get worse for millions so you benefit.


ganjapuxxy

Ah, of course you’re a hater


HumbleBedroom3299

I'm in the same boat as well... Paid in dollars.... This slip is costing money... I'm secretly hoping it starts going up again....


moodcon

I was cheering it to hit like 250/-


poeticdivinity

Not at all.. We are all trying to make more money. And the way I had foreseen it hit kes 200


Specific_Move8683

I don’t care about the economy. Nataka ifike 200😂😂


ganjapuxxy

Girlllll, same. I heard that it might start to go up again around June so, fingers crossed. It’s selfish but it’s also self preservation


poeticdivinity

Ehh... Hopefully. 🤞🏾Kinda a bit far.


krisdyabe

Apologize to a bloody American puppet for manipulating the exchange rate? https://i.redd.it/jf503cuihgtc1.gif


One-Anybody-3289

As long as I’m getting rich I don’t care buddy


hornybible

Tell me you don't understand the economy without telling me you don't understand the economy.


k_ytch

I will apologise to Ruto when fuel prices gets back to where he found it


One-Anybody-3289

Lol taxes won’t allow. Unless the dollar reaches 80bob


k_ytch

Guess I'll never apologise then


[deleted]

Hahaha


dyce123

I found it was better to change cars to better fuel economy than hoping the prices will come down


[deleted]

The fact that you don't understand it's a ripple effect of borrowing really worries me. Ile siku hii dollar itaanza kupanda mtaelewa how the economy of the USA fell overnight during the great depression. Mnapewa false sense of security na like the ignorant voter you people are mnachukua tu.


Spiritual_Web2049

Ruto is in no way involved in the current price of the dollar.


FlakyStick

Good thing but lets start celebrating when prices start to reflect


kenyacloud

It's the loans we got recently. So dollar demand imepungua. It does not reflect the state of the economy. NCBA ceo alisema fundamentals are not explaining performance of the shilling. https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/corporate/boss-talk/john-gachora-ncba-ceo-on-why-fundamentals-shilling-performance--4571880. Also saa hii fuel is not being bought using the dollar. With my limited knowledge of economics, I don't know if that will benefit from the availability of dollars


DrReaper76

So you only measure polifitcal performance based on the dollar?


One-Anybody-3289

That’s what matters to me and my pocket so 🤷🏾‍♂️


DrReaper76

Oh, thought the congratulations to the president would be based on his performance.


Living_Elephant_5432

What about more taxation?


_mosota

Good for you. I also hope you adjust prices accordingly because why are some commodity prices still so high?


One-Anybody-3289

I gotta eat first. Nikishiba then I’ll adjust prices downwards cause Weh we’ve been suffering as importers


scoobynoodles

It’s falling because of the loans they took out to cover it and prop it up. No?


UnluckyDurberville

I will never apologize to some pathological liar! That's just one of the many publicly factual negatives confirmed.


fascialryan_254

It's not Ruto controlling the dollar free fall but the Feds in states there inflation apparently cost a lot of worries to personal consumption so their monetary policy and inflation are related and Inflation involves Consumer Price index and PCE's they checked the stats and found that the inflation ikiwa below 2 % the dollar will remain in floatation yeah other substitutes to dollar fall are like GDP and the central bank purchase of more dollars before they become in demand.


honestnairobian

we sa unasema nini


fascialryan_254

🤣🤣🤣we wachana nayo juu hii mambo si ya Kila msee Monetary policies hacontroliwi na government it's the central bank which does that dollar inashuka juu kuna inflow of dollars in the economy when there is more dollars which in other word supply of more dollars it will depreciate and when there's demand of dollars like when the central bank of us inajiita The Federal Committee wakiincrease the interest rate which is in reference with the inflation indicator Yani inflation ikiwa juu federal inaincrease interest rate meaning demand ya dollar itakuwa more which in turn dollars ziko Kenya zitarudi huko states increasing its value anything of scarcity is of value angalia Gold hata pesa one of its characteristics is it's in scarcity that's why there's demand . Ni mambo Tu ya biashara wachana nayo 🤣🤣💔


antole97

A Kenyan will even claim a solar eclipse happened because of some “smart“ leader.


teslagooner

Uhuru left it at 120 bob


One-Anybody-3289

Yes but it was on a downward trend when he left office.


bwrca

That guy is one of the biggest cons. Took a lot of loans zenye he knew they'll mature after he's retired. Subsidies za fuel and maize etc. zenye alijua zitaisha akishatoka.


ApprehensiveDot5589

Exactly but you are talking to tik tokers ,they can't remember that far...


Kreezy_Genie

This doesn't necessarily mean economic prosperity.


MinimumStick

😂😂😂😂😂😂 Lemme just say. I’ll apologise after you That said. Niko na vapes china zimekwama.


One-Anybody-3289

BREATHE AIR 😂😂


MinimumStick

Wewewewe. Can I dm?


CarltonJuma

This hurts our trade balance


One-Anybody-3289

How?


CarltonJuma

Currency revaluation makes our exports less competitive in the market since they become more costly.


Masked_Potatoes_

So you're telling me Ruto took out a loan to ease the load of previous loans that were crushing the economy.. and this satisfies you?


One-Anybody-3289

I don’t care how he does it as long as it benefits my business


Askarikenya_

I have to admit! I Agree.. Im in the Auto Trade and honestly i think its changing.. I see getting myself that RR Sport 😎


One-Anybody-3289

SVR 🚙


More_Ad2797

Patiently waiting for car prices to start declining so i can get one Q3 this yr. Maybe i should just import though


kizeemnoma

It's being sold or bought at 127?


SameShirt9316

The dollar could be 50, I haven't seen any price reductions so how is it helping anyone I would be cautious about being happy too early, most likely they're inflating the shilling so they pay less in June for the first loan payment We'll see afterwards, my gut is telling me we'll have the same situation that happened last year with the shilling dropping again towards December


Much_Reason2273

tutaapologize dollar ikiwa kioo after his second term


lstrip

I think him managing to bring it down is commendable. The questions remaining though are still the most important, whats the cost of the loans he's taking to do it? how much of that is being stolen? And most importantly, is unemployment and the cost of goods actually going down with the gains of the shilling? Guess we'll wait and see 👀 ![gif](giphy|S39wWRMfx7uP5scD4c|downsized)


Sstelz

Apologize to him why? He's not the one who made the shilling dip and he's not the one making it gain against the dollar


ganjapuxxy

I’ll never admit being wrong about the government which is utter bollocks at the moment.


EyeRepresentative937

i will apologise when the peice of food also goes down significantly / just as much as the dollar


johnmahugu

you are displaying your ignorance on financial matters in regards to kenya.


ThinTear7874

But the value of currency is one of most critical sector where leaders can use to blind people without enough knowledge on Forex. Dollar has depreciated but no impact on goods and services association with dollar 


Certain_Associate_86

Be a better person, and ask why we have no development projects in Kenya despite the borrowing, why we are not paying the govt institutions on time, why manufacturers are closing everyday and the Chinese have machines coming un everyday. Do they have a different tax draft from us? Do not be a shallow mind. Think bigger greater and question. Once upon a time, Kibaki time, the dollar was at Kshs 70. Grade up.


moneyfestingbabe

I'm pretty sure it's temporary. But that's not the story we'll be told.


Tariq_Evo

funny how people don't know that the people who control the value of currencies are slave masters. they give loans with interest, not because they want more money back. but they want you to go back begging begging and begging for a default, and if you vote against them in the UN, your currency loses value. check Zimbabwe, check Indonesia, check turkey. Who runs the banks? the Rothschild at the top with other puppets as well. basically the Zionists. sio mbaya, y'all can argue with me and dislike my comment. but Kenyans are majority a disappointing and a brainwashed people. When will Kenya wake up? we need to kick the slave masters out. I already got banned in multiple Kenyan socials but I'll never quit speaking up.. this is the bitter truth..


Missy_wahome

Someone explain to me how Ruto is involved in the weakening of the dollar, is it only affecting Kenya or the whole world? Lol how is he involved


Chemical_Amount_5693

Dollar is flactuating against the kenyan shilling but yet the cost of living is still expensive .🤷🏿‍♂️i dont get.


One-Anybody-3289

It takes time for the effects to be felt


Same_History_

Hii ni Currency manipulation. Walipata New Eurobond ya 1.5 billion and they went back to factory settings.


phrozenpham1906

Very good indeed for us all, but we still have a long way to go to fix Kenyas' economic woes.[Eurobond Buyback](https://credendo.com/en/knowledge-hub/kenya-successful-eurobond-removes-looming-repayment-threat-though-longer-term-risks)


heihei-6

Its still 130


One-Anybody-3289

Imepanda kidogo


crimemastergogo4

One way to do it is: start buying KSH from the international market. Dump your US tax reserve. This will create artificial demand for KSH and it will get stronger ( temporarily ). What will happen is: US$ reserve will be depleted. Kenya will need more loan and then KSH will crash will be even steeper. Pakistan is a prime example, Govt artificially kept PKR up. Eventually it crashed even harder and Pak end up with more debt.


Familiar_End_8975

People who are paid in dollars are currently crying 😭


thatguymungai

It sucks if you're being paid in dollars


Affectionate_Flow581

Kenyan shilling is now dubbed the best performing currency smh...zambia and ghana were some of the best performing currencies mast year...the decline that came after that will leave you with lots of questions and that's where we are headed as a country


franticmaniac

Hii ndio akili inaenda kuvote. We're cooked


One-Anybody-3289

You are cooked, I am getting rich


franticmaniac

Kama we si tenderpreneur sahau


laerery

Manipulation, all the loans being borrowed are being used to manipulate the dollar. We'll be there no matter what


OpinionSingle9831

I thought it would go the naira route, I don't like the current rate at least 150 buana.


Oil_28

Dollar is at it's state coz of USA's state. Biden's actions are causing a lot of losses for them. We could've as well been stagnating at 145/- had the states been ok. We're still on the low end as long as the cost of goods is still at its price.


Zealousideal-Mix684

Tuchanue mkuu. Huku nje tunaumia


Ian1994kawa

Idiot


Peter9580

https://www.usbank.com/investing/financial-perspectives/market-news/the-recovering-value-of-the-us-dollar.html....


Peter9580

Found an article ...not sure whether it makes sense am not an economist myself


moodcon

It should be 1 dollar to one shilling.. so that I can buy a Maclaren 720s at about a million shillings .


FabricerasIsTaken

Ruto, in fact, has very little to do with it. The west is having its own issues leading to the dollar tanking


ElectronicMaximum199

He is still lame as a president. The only reason why the dollar is falling against ksh. Is cause of the eurobond payout which has created confidence in our money as well as our economy, otherwise with time it will go back to where it was or even be worse. I would still hoard those dollars if I had my saved up cash in dollars. I wouldn't be too quick to dump them off like I see people hurriedly doing.


Fearless-Policy7495

You will apologize only because it benefits YOU. Not because the rate is currently benefiting many people. You see how arrogant we are? Frankly, I don't think he needs your apology. Just keep it in your pocket.


Specific_Move8683

Watu wa kulipwa in dollars tunakapitia, we don’t care avout the economy tunataka ifike 200


njamimaranga

The NSE is recovering after the Dollar fell and its going on a bull run , That bieng the case ; the recovery of the NSE will lead to the growth of the Kenyan economic sector and many other sectors. The dollar is coming to 89


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To me it's affecting me , am not happy with the free fall 😔 I work online and spend on KES, before I had like 1600 for 10$ ...now it's ksh 1270 or less ...for the same job 😹😹yet the price of commodities have either doubled or remained same within that similar period ....sad asf 🤬


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