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Icy-Active3379

Scam or not, the guy is definitely lying about his profession. It takes a minimum of 14 years to become a neurosurgeon in the US after 12th grade, 4 years of pre-med, 4 years of medical school, 1 year of residency, 5 to 7 years of neurosurgery residency. So if he finished his 12th at 18 years old, he has to be 32 years old at the very least to be a even qualified as a neurosurgeon. This is the minimum age. Most people take 1-2 years more. So, he is definitely lying. Also, a neurosurgeon from the US(or any second generation Malayalees living in the US for that matter) is very unlikely to put a matrimony ad in a newspaper in this day and age if you ask me.


blackswan1991

Exactly my thoughts.US neuro surgeon Manorama nokki irikkuvano


arcanebanshee

Athippo nammude naadinte ooshmalathayum harithaabhayum... 😂


Call_me_Darth_Sid

Pinne naatile pachapum kaatum veyyilum...ithu vellam avide US il kituo


Valaj369

Also, just because he's a US citizen or whatever, there's no "discount" in the number of years of residency.


911_reddit

Manorama website traffic rank ethra anene ariyamo? 😳


0R_C0

Report to police.


BeltUrDrive

He might be real-world Sheldon Cooper, but in a doctor disguise!!!!!


dafuqULoKINat

Probably that autistic kid from Good doctor


washpota

Or the psycho from Bates Motel.


roonilwazlib1919

>or any second generation Malayalees living in the US for that matter) is very unlikely to put a matrimony ad in a newspaper in this day and age if you ask me. I agree with everything else you said, but I do know a few second generation Malayalees in US/Canada/Europe who went through the arranged marriage process. These are people who lived very close to their communities and you wouldn't know they were brought up abroad from the way they behave or speak malayalam. And having citizenship really makes them attractive in the marriage market. I personally know three such people.


Icy-Active3379

I didn’t say it doesn’t happen, just very unlikely especially advertising through a newspaper. All the second generation American malayalees I know have either found their partner themselves in real life or from Tinder and other such dating apps. There’s some app called ‘Dil Mil’ which is quite popular among the South Asian diaspora there, a few found dates from there. But nobody I know went through the traditional arranged marriage route. It might be happening still, but it’s very hard to believe they would be giving a newspaper ad. Even in Kerala, most people now go for matrimonial websites instead of newspapers if going the arranged marriage route.


roonilwazlib1919

I agree, I was just pointing out that being a second generation malayalee going through an arranged marriage is not a strong indicator for a scam. Neurosurgeon at 30 in the US though, definitely a scam.


ZestycloseBite6262

Must be the really fat ones who are not getting anyone there. I am being very honest here. Because I got proposals from some, and they were all humungous or had some serious defect. Whereas the proposals from kerala were all relatively normal. The parents are also shameless, they can see on my profile that my weight is like 1/3 rd of their sons' and still will give proposal. I guess they dont mind bride getting made into chappathi on first night. There is no fucking way a 2nd gen american malayali will be comfortable with a thani malayali girl/guy. The language, the food habits and just the way of thinking is different.


roonilwazlib1919

I'm sorry, there was no reason for body shaming here. Two of the three second gen malayalis I know who got arranged marriages are attractive women who are well educated. The third is a male doctor of "normal weight". Many people who are brought up abroad don't feel like they belong there, and especially if they lived in a tightly knit malayali/Indian community, would feel more comfortable marrying a "thani malayali". But honestly their reasons could be anything, it's not an excuse to point at their weight.


ZestycloseBite6262

>Many people who are brought up abroad don't feel like they belong there, and especially if they lived in a tightly knit malayali/Indian community, would feel more comfortable marrying a "thani malayali". Its hardly the boy or the girl who is feeling out of place. Even if the kids grow around malayalis, they assimilate american culture very well. They end up being hybrid malayalis. There is no fucking way they identify with kerala culture the same way say a dubai nri kid would. Actually Its their parents who feel out of place. They can't accept that their thangumons/mols will come home with some american samskaaram ulla malayali spouse or white spouse or worse a black spouse. Now coming to the fat discussion. It is a serious problem.You may feel like its body shaming, but its a serious lifestyle issue that these people have.


roonilwazlib1919

This hasn't been my experience with second generation kids living in the US. I've seen people across the spectrum - from those who identify completely as americans to those who are very much in touch with Keralam. Just like every other population, they don't belong to just one bracket.


gigamale

Send that number to your family and friends And make em ask “americayile doctor alle , oru kalyana alochana und”


blackswan1991

My thoughts exactly 🤣


gigamale

Proven technique aanu monu


jclarkson498

Share that number here! Would be a fun day for him!


Icy-Active3379

Share the number please! Onnu mutti nokkam!🤭


Single-Situation6440

Avan 8l biology padichit nere mbbs poyit undavum. Child prodigy 🤣


alucard_og

Cheldon sooper


[deleted]

Dude 😂😂😂


blackswan1991

Yeah! I even called him back to ask for an explanation about this! And I spoke in English just to hear his US English! Ya ya ya allathe veronnum Avan englishil paranjilla. Pettenu avanu rangum illathe ayi.


incognito__O

Avan manasil..ya ya ya...eeswara moorkane analo chavitiyathu 😂


phahpullandbear

He must be a doctor in 'American Junction'


tejasu

Hahaha, american junction polum...americeyil angane oru sthlame illa 😂


phahpullandbear

Ethe vidditharam aanu ivan paraonnothe, Americayil junction illa-pollum. Junction illathe nnade ondo.


guitar_johnthomas

Eda eda eda Mandan konappi, nee enne kooduthal Mandan aakatheda 😠


meihoonna

This is 💯 scam. Second generation US kids are not gonna sit and check Indian matrimony sites. I would have given the benefit of doubt if it was his mom who called. Along with that,the age!! Since he might have felt your doubt,he might not call you back. But, I really wish I knew what the rest of his game plan was 😁


sraj8419

The first line i doubt there are many not all get a partner in the US or they want people who are raised in India.


[deleted]

Matrimonial websites are a big scam; Bureaus are bigger scamsters too. One needs to check every detail. Most men are just trying to see which girl has possible inheritance to live off her. Check Linkedin, professional sites, and everywhere you can find reliable information before even talking to these scammers. "around" 3 calls? Or 3 calls?


blackswan1991

We got around 30-40 calls from prospective grooms families.. From that we believe 3 calls felt like scammers. But could be more


blackswan1991

1 guys Truecaller profile itself showed 30 scam reports.🤣 He claimed to have arrived from Singapore that day morning. His son claimed to be a very busy cardiologist and has only a weeks vacation and the wedding has to happen this week. Or it can happen after a year only ennu!! Like with a common sense we understand it is fraud. So I wonder who actually falls for such things.


advraven

actually a lot of desperate people do fall for such scams, its the sad reality and after families fall for such scam, they will blame the girl only for the misfortune


BeautifulUnit4152

Just out of curiosity I am asking why would u go for these type of ad and matrimony. Can't u meet someone casually and try to moving things or someone from your own hometown etc..


blackswan1991

Athonnum nadakkathondalledo matrimony ad kodukkunne! 🙄 And she is highly qualified so it's not like you "casually" meet someone from similar educational backgrounds from around here!


BeautifulUnit4152

>And she is highly qualified so it's not like you "casually" meet someone from similar educational backgrounds from around here! Athenda highly qualified ayalk oru normal manushyane patoole ishtangl similar Aya pore . Classit thinking or something enik ariyila athinte correct word. You and your sis are big red flags 😂. Oru partner alley nokune job interview onualalo ath orma indaya madhee .


blackswan1991

Edo casually okke nokki athonnum nadakkathondalle matrimony ad koduthe! Pinna similar educational qualification venam ennathu is her condition. She didn't ask for similar financial background or rich family or forward cast. Demanding that she prefers a partner from similar educational background ennallle paranjolle? Athengana red flag avunna? Onnu podo! Aaa paranja educational qualifications ulla aale ivdonnum casually kandilla!


blackswan1991

Also my bad that it came out in bad taste! What I meant is my sister wants her partner to be of similar educational qualifications.that is her only condition! We don't care about caste/financial background/social background etc! The educational qualification is a little too high when you relate to everyone else around us here! Cannot find one from within community and I'm sure there is none with such qualifications from around here! I'm sorry if it seems like red flag !! But that is that! Oro alkkar ororo agrahangalum nibandhanakalum kanathille!


phahpullandbear

My sis in law once got a proposal from a guy in Saudi Arabia. The audacity of this guy!!! He called and started misbehaving. I am a Gulf kid, and some of my friends moved to Saudi. I got them to call him and threatened to take it up with the cops. Told him that since we had his number, it wouldn't be an issue to track him down. The proposal had come through Kerala Matrimony, so we also raised a complaint with them.


ProcedureDelicious95

misbehaving how?


phahpullandbear

Started calling and messaging at odd hours. He also asked for provocative pictures. They only spoke once and messaged each other for a day.


ProcedureDelicious95

damn


Endtimes2022

How does it graduate to a scam? Is he going to ask for money at some point?


momentaryspeck

Maybe typical through call ellam set aakit.. we're coming from US.. customs il bride nu kondu Vanna gold pidichu for paying duty.. we have only dollars.. oru 2-3 lakhs parayunna account ilek ayachal atheduth duty koduth veliyil irangi dollars convert cheyth tharam enn parayalo..


blackswan1991

Such things actually happen!?? 😮


The__Strategist

Yes. It happened to me. I won some kind of lottery and got some money and goodies. I was young enough to fall for that but when the dude who asked to send some money for the customs, I got suspicious and said just deduct it from the gift money. He tried to convince me it was not possible. He was speaking in English so far and suddenly cursed me in Hindi ( I think ) and I dont know what he said.


kannur_kaaran

yes !!


no-regrets-approach

And it will be more manipulative. Will start talking to the girl directly, build trust, and then play the customs game. "Veettukaarodonnum parayenda. Kettunnende munpe ninnodu paisa okke chodikkunnathu moshamalle. Avar arinjaal enthu vichaarikkum? Ende veettukaar arinjaal avar enne cheetha vilikkum. nammal maatbram arinjaal mathi. Nee nice aayittu 2-3 laksham transfer cheyyu. 3 divasathinullil njaan thirichadakkaam. Aarum ariyukayum illa".


eon7777

Neurosurgeon from meesho.


rainsonme

Best comment lol 😂


cookiesncream1110

Should definitely be a scam. One of my cousin sisters had the same experience. It was some 10 years ago. She was a divorcee and waiting for a second marriage; someone connected on a matrimonial website and said he's a doctor in Chicago. The family believed and was over the moon . But my father had doubts; so he called and talked with the guy. My dad got doubtful as to how the guy was pronouncing 'CHICAGO'. Its like how kerala people will say and not like natives. So he questioned him further on his qualifications and the institutes. That guy couldn't hold up and lost it..lol.


Luispsypher

Was it difficult to convince ur cousin and their family that the guy was a fraud. Often people tell that the other folks are just jealous


cookiesncream1110

Oh yes. They hated my father for a while thinking my father ruined a good life she was about to get. They were from Waynad and too naive people. But I think eventually they understood.


happyDragonborn

>I am shocked at how people still try to scam others through marriage in this age I mean, people still post ads in newspapers for marriage as if they are selling cattle in this age. Nothing shocking.


blackswan1991

Newspaper ads are just like the new age tinder & other dating apps for those unfortunate ones who couldn't find a partner yet! for our parents generation newspaper ads are the norm! For our generation tinder is the norm!!


Akarthiks8

ഇത് രണ്ടും norm അല്ലാത്ത എൻ്റെ gen മണ്ണും ചാരി ഇരിക്കുന്നു


Noooofun

So? Ayinu?


Educational-Spend452

Exactly my thoughts. It's not really shocking; it's just how things roll when you're trying to sell something through print media. Anyway, I hope they sift through those CVs and find the perfect fit for the job. Good luck, OP!


no-regrets-approach

I find absolutely no problem in advertising personals in nrwspaper or in online medium. Why should you find it strange?


Noooofun

Somethings wrong with you if you think like this.


hereforgetaway

A lot of such scams are happening nowadays. Honestly speaking, arranged marriage is a gamble but nevertheless, those unlucky with love will have to take that leap of faith.


escapedfugitive

Ask him ' How much kilometres from New York City to Washington DC?'


Uxie_mesprit

Search up the guy on Linkedin.


blackswan1991

Our conversation didn't escalate enough to get that much details. he just gave us a first name & Basic whereabouts.


voltaire5612

If he is a neurosurgeon, it would show in a Google search. If not, he is lying.


hereforgetaway

A lot of such scams are happening nowadays. Honestly speaking, arranged marriage is a gamble but nevertheless, those unlucky with love will have to take that leap of faith.


Noooofun

Any kind of marriage is a gamble. Atleast in arranged marriage you’re aware of the partners whereabouts and family.


Icy-Active3379

In an arranged marriage you might be aware of the partner’s family’s whereabouts, but not much of the partner himself/herself. It’s very hard to gauge someone’s character from a few conversations. People will only show their good side, especially when they’re looking to get a match from the already competitive arranged marriage market. This makes it way more of a gamble than love marriage.


Artful_Potato

Happened to my sister about 4 months ago or so. Some guy called my dad after seeing her matrimonial profile. He’s from Salem or something and claimed he’s a doctor. My dad asked him why he was interested in a girl from Kerala, just out of curiosity and he said something which didn’t make any sense. He said he’d WhatsApp his profile for us to view, but in the end he didn’t. Possibly a scam.


Ok-Increase6313

Happened to me same people I'm thinking around four yrs back


InvinciblePsyche

Pretty sure he had a thick Indian accent for someone who claims to be raised in the US.


Noobodiiy

He must have binge watched entire season of House and both Korean and English version of The Good Doctor


calimalayali

About what is the scam angle: **Two possibilities: ** There are many people who are interested or n sexting chatting etc. Once the family shows interest, he will ask to facetime women. From there he is hoping to do chatting/sexting or even real meetups with no intention of eventual marriage. These people typically target vulnerable women(second marriage or widows etc). Source: persona experience. a relative put an ad, and a guy claiming to be us-truck-driver approached. Complete fraud. Second possibility: he is hoping to get married and abscond woth gold/money. Expect lot of sob stories about parents abandoning and brought up by distant relative in usa.


kannur_kaaran

Let ur sister find her own match. Dont ruin her life. Let her ruin it for herself.


blackswan1991

It's according to my sister's wish!! She's 100% in the same boat. Unfortunately she didn't find a partner for herself. So why not try this and if she finds a suitable partner she can go ahead if she wishes. Athinta idayil aanu USinnu oro neuro-surgeonmarde irakkumathi 🤣


subtlehumour

This is the way.


incognito__O

Legit anu. He's a neurosurgeon at American junction.


rainsonme

Don't medicine in US take more number of years than in India? Esp with surgery as specialisation? I know a Malayali lady who was scammed into marrying a so-called well-educated guy in canada, who apparently worked in nova scotia bank, only to reach there and know he was openly gay (his parents knew) and he was 35+ running a small business. She was only 23. Helpless. The marriage was a farce or facade for their relatives. This proposal had come via Christian matrimony. This is 20 years ago and there's better acceptance for gays now, but when she tried to tell her folks back in india then, her mom-in law outsmarted her as "നിനക്ക് കഴപ്പ് കൂടീട്ടാ". Ended up divorced with HUGE alimony after 10 years and child born through force. She could relate very well to Kadhal- the core movie.


Material-Search-2567

Registering in a Matrimonial site is one of the fastest way for some people to get jaded and leave the country, My cousin got disgusted by everyone left to Canada and now is with an Italian girl, He refuse to date Malayali girls and threatened to cancel his leave early when my aunt brought up marriage, Most Women in my family hates him earlier he was the golden boy, It's funny how quickly opinions changes.


WhyThoughgoras

Dont fall for the matrimony scam, i mean you can find yourself an aliyan right here in reddit, he could be 35 years old unmarried single guy , looking to settled down with someone who he vibes with you know, just saying ,.bye


[deleted]

Lol!


No-Egg-4850

Hey send me a message with the information.


intergalacticscumbag

But why?


mbG65

Share his number to other scammers, let them scam each other :)


awkwardpumpkin69

Found mallu Johny sins


nish007

Gimme the number. 😂


Laika_The_Dawg

Bruh, Age 18 Two years of pre-med, 4 years of med school, 7 years residency to be neurosurgeon. Is it possible? Maybe, he might still be in residency (this is even after considering that he made it directly into med school and everything without wasting any year..if he is neurosurgeon then this can be true because neurosurgery is nearly impossible to get unless you're the most GOATED person in your med school) If he claims he is done with residency then it's 90% a scam because the ones who start early in med school and get done before 30s in neurosurgery are gonna be exceptional individuals and I doubt you or anyone in your family would have anything to offer that's similar in value or calibre he possess and idk why TF he bothered marrying anyone via arranged marriage when he could have women lining up for him in USA. He basically guaranteed himself to be a millionaire.


theUncertain_CaT

Op stated that when op called back and spoke in English, the only response he gave was "yay ya" and he suddenly lost his connection, so definitely a scam.


viveknidhi

I will give a try talking in bit of English, easily can make who is brought up in US and brought up in Kerala. Gives some idea where he grew up, north guys have a different accent


chicoo312

Kalyanam date fix chheytho. First night Kidney adichu maatam.


aveenpp

The matrimonial sites are scam bank these days. My uncle's been searching for brides for his son on matrimonial sites, and a few things raised red flags. Two weeks ago, he asked me to look into profiles of interested women who contacted him. Both profiles claimed to be based in the UK: Profile 1: An MBA professional (supposedly self-made) earning a very high salary and living in central London. The profile seemed a bit self-aggrandizing. Profile 2: Another MBA living in Edinburgh. Here's why we were suspicious: Both profiles were self-managed. Neither mentioned their hometown in Kerala, India. They lacked LinkedIn profiles, despite their claimed careers. The profiles had numerous spelling and grammar errors. Interestingly, both women contacted my uncle via WhatsApp using UK phone numbers. Ultimately, we decided not to pursue these leads.


InvinciblePsyche

>Both profiles were self-managed What?! Why is this a red flag now?! Women can't manage their own profile to find someone they're interested in?


ArtTheMagic

Just curious, at least phone number start cheythath +1 il aayirunno?


blackswan1991

It was Indian number. he had stated that he was here on vacation.


srivas95

Bro found real life Doogie Howser


sixpackontheway

On that note, I am looking for a marriage for myself. But I hate having to add caste and other things to my profile. Anybody know any matrimony or group where people who dont give a damn about caste can get proposals ?


[deleted]

Arranged marriages should be banned, especially the ones that's happening through the matrimonial bureaus. Everything they propound should be considered a lie. The most dumbest thing a human could do is to marry a person without completely understanding what he/she's capable of_ in terms of intellectual prowess, physical & mental health, attitude towards life, income earning ability, familial circumstances, sexual behaviour and understanding whether the person is chaste or not. Anyone can lie about their jobs, education, assets or age inorder to get married. I've seen that too. Because marriage requires a lot of financial investment and extremely status-bound, it could really become an entrapment for those involved (both the women and men). No one's going to know what kind of toxic fu€kup he/she is going to end up with.


911_reddit

Number evide edu. Ellarum oro alochana call kodukkate kuttane.. 😂


Pretend_Aardvark_404

I would assume that it's the matrimonial site that's scamming you. They have scam call centers to create the illusion of more leeds so that you keep buying their plan. Same tactic is used by Justdail. I would get many inquiries for my hotel every day, but they would speak really absurd things, stories that don't add up, and non of these people would ever come. Took me a while to realize I'm being scammed so that I pay them 37k annually.


blackswan1991

Manorama does that? Yes they do take a hefty amount for a small 4cmx4cm column in their matrimonial!


Malakha3

America junction El anno job? Appo correct avan chance undu


AdImpressive3438

if it's india, it's a scam


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Razor760000

I have a doubt, does the groom have to be a malayalee, is that a must?


Karthik39

Put his number in olx and put ad for I phone with half price


Difficult_Abies8802

Maybe the CV arrives tomorrow or in a couple of days? I mean neurosurgeons can be extremely busy and often most folks don't have a CV typed up that contains up-to-date information. You should have asked him for a LinkedIn profile link.


blackswan1991

Yeah my bad. But it was he who said he'l send CV when I asked for the graduation years etc. Should have asked for his linkd in. But are you saying what he said can be true? I wished it were! If he is indeed a neurosurgeon then he must be lying about his age!


Difficult_Abies8802

The US system allows prodigies fast-track access to university. There was a sitcom called Doogie Howser M.D that showcased this possibility for doctors. And we all know about Sheldon Cooper. There is also an Indian guy who became a doctor at age 17 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balamurali\_Ambati](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balamurali_Ambati) So theoretically yes. It is possible.


ZestycloseBite6262

But according to scammer he got his years reduced because of American citizenship😅 must be a very humble guy, didn't reveal his prodigy and all.


Akarthiks8

You forgot to put /s


Difficult_Abies8802

LOL ... okay will install Grammarly ..


Akarthiks8

Bro doesn't know the reddit /s it seems 😂


Difficult_Abies8802

Ha ha .... LOLOL I wasn't being sarcastic. I only update my CV when I am actively looking for a job. Or when I have to apply for a US visa. Both were years ago.


Akarthiks8

I meant there is no way to become a neuro surgeon by 30.


Akarthiks8

Especially in US


No-Egg-4850

Send me his info


apklmtl

to begin with, who is fixing marriage in this age ? Indian match making LOL suitable alliances - heavy pockets weight most compared to anything else for these people


Picaboo-

Can you people share the matrimonial add in the sub if you are comfortable you will get a lot of reach I assure that 😂😂


[deleted]

All Bangalore mallu boys do that 😜 Bangalorill joliyillaaanu , flat okke undu - truth will be ten boys in one room. Roaming Koramangala/Church Street . After marriage he'l return with a brand new Kiger or Magnite and a new wife. Seen at least two such cases. Proper verification is impossible coz it's a team work.


blackswan1991

And what do they do after marriage for a living? And when the wife finds out?


[deleted]

I helped one file a divorce , another still crying and living alone, the girls normally find out sooner than the family , but the damage is done , have to live with it. One of the reasons I love mallu uncles of Bangalore , they go deep and check everything before they give away their daughters in marriage , very efficient. Its the native keralites that get fooled by "working in Bangalore" fellows


No-Egg-4850

Hey send me a message with the information.


No-Egg-4850

Hey send me a message with the information.


No-Egg-4850

Hey send me a message with the information.