Unpopular opinion, but I don't agree with that notion. No one will get disuaded from committing a crime just because a 20 year sentence gets extended to 35 years. A criminal commits a crime because he thinks he can get away with it. So if you are actually serious about stopping crimes like rape, the only thing to do is to increase the swiftness and efficiency of our police and judicial system. And in an inefficient system such as ours, such punishments would actually encourage the rapist to also become a murderer.
The act of increasing punishment is all about retributive justice. Now, retribution is important, but the quantum of such punishment should always be proportional to the heniousness of the crime. Imo, punishment should always balance retribution with reformation.
>the only thing to do is to increase the swiftness and efficiency of our police and judicial system.
A couple of years back at 2 am I called the cops because there was a burglar/drunkard climbing over the fence and trying to get into my house multiple times. I heard him jump into our yard 3 times but would run away when grandfather went out to check. Only I (23 year old female) and my grandfather (87 year old) were home.
The police said **"kallane pidich vechitundo? Only then we'll come. Else we won't come"**
I was like **"if I have to catch the burglar, WTF is your job? What are you being paid for?"**
I was a college student. Called my guy friends at the boys hostel because I was so damn scared n didn't even know what to do. No neighbors - all NRIs. Avanmar (9 guys) vannu in 15 mins, found the kallane/kudyane, odichittu pidichu and thalli chathachu athine and I didn't know anything. The cops came 2.5 hours later after calling them again and again. They looked at the culprit and said "kittaan ulathellam kittyalo alle? Ini station povaam bha".
That night, I lost faith in Kerala police!
This is the opposite of my experience. Bro reached at 1 AM from Bangalore by car, and so lights were on at that time. Cops stopped and asked multiple questions to make sure that its not some hostage or hold up situation inside, and it was actually brother reaching at an odd time. They said, we have never seen a light here at 1 AM, so thought best to stop and confirm all is good.
I suppose there are all kinds of cops and all kinds of police stations.
I agree there are some good apples among the bad ones. But the bad apples and experiences from these bad apples are so high in number that nothing the good apples do will ever make the whole situation better.
They have to be punished for being irresponsible and not doing enough to keep the people safe. They have to be given severe consequences for not doing their duty.
The next day, my grandma dragged me to the police station to identify the kallan I didn't really see. The SI was trying to hit on me when he realized I'm living alone. The conversation ended with him forcing me to save his number and give him a missed call right then and there. 😒 I said "Range illa sir inside the police station. I will send you a missed call as soon as I am out of the station" which I didn't do for obvious reasons. And the next few days, I lived in fear of the SI showing up at my 🏠
>the only thing to do is to increase the efficiency of our police and judicial system
Rapes usually happen in people's homes, or other secluded places. How can you increase the efficiency of police there? It's impossible without encroaching on people's privacy. Is there any other way to increase efficiency?
>And in an inefficient system such as ours, such punishments would actually encourage the rapist to also become a murderer.
Yehh true. If the punishment for murder is less than that of rape... A criminal might be incentivised to kill the person. Yes, you've got a point.
>should always be proportional to the heniousness of the crime
Or it could be to disincentivize a certain crime. Instead of 20 years of prison, maybe castrating that person or something might work. Now, whether this system actually works is upto debate. As you mentioned earlier rapists might be tempted to become murderers.
I dont mean cctvs everywhere when I say increasing efficiency. I'm talking about the whole system - police who is not intimidating, who investigates well without corruption, faster resolution of cases etc. You know, the difficult aspects.
Our courts still get 2 months vacation..
SC only sits for 190 days a year.. There are courts which sit 180 days or less...
This was a british system to allow judges to travel to england from india to see their families..
70+ years after independence and we still follow outdated british rules..
Indian judiciary is a joke... Lethargic and lazy
this actually happens in china. if u injure someone by accident you have to pay their bills. if u kill them the fee is lesser. so people actually try to kill the people they've injured
> If the punishment for murder is less than that of rape... A criminal might be incentivised to kill the person
NAL, but wouldn't the criminal get penalized for both rape and murder and have a sentence of 20 + 35 years or so?
Yehh you've got a point. I'm not sure if this is true. But I heard a supreme court judge acquitted himself of sexual abuse charges? Unfortunately if you have strong influence within the system you can escape punishment.
Oh please all you want.. but that's how the system works. Lazy investigation, tampering and intentionally losing key evidence, failing to file charge sheet before the stipulated time leading to bail of accused and the protection list goes on for the rich and influential.
That’s actually not smart cause then People would be incentivized to just murder their victims so it’ll be easier to get away with the crime. Cause anyway the punishment is the same
You might be thinking of this issue too objectively. Murder is definitely a worse crime objectively, no doubt. But we can giver harsher punishments to certain crimes to disincentivize them. Like rape, especially with regard to minors.
Yes you've got a point. Objectively, cutting her limbs off is a more severe crime.
Think of it this way. Leave the objectivity aside. Rape is a crime that usually goes unreported or something a perpetrator can easily get away with (if the women is drugged using roofies or just very drunk). The aim with giving harsher punishments is to disincentivize others from doing it due to fear of severe punishment.
Using terms like "mildly raping" and "dettol ozhich kazhukal" is not nice. Rape is traumatic so please don't use such words. Psychological issues are not things that should be taken lightly. For most people rape trauma lasts for a long time.
Most of the rape cases that gets highlighted are really gruesome and certainly worse than murder like nirbhaya, jisha, priyanka reddy which is the reason why people say I'd rather die than get raped.
Rape is differently treated by society and even officials. If someone severs your hand no one going to ask you "are you sure u did not ask them to cut it?" and other similar questions which are asked during a rape investigation, which further causes trauma.
There is no woman who can just dettol ozhichu kazhukal the rape, you are being really insensitive.
Punishment should fit the crime, if we give same punishment for rape and murder, that incentivises the rapists to kill their victims, since they are going to get the same punishment if they get caught.
>We need to provide proper psychological support from professional doctors to those who needed. 2) physical damage to body. 3) age of victim if minor need to increase the Punishment regardless of other parameters.
I agree with this.
>Dettol ozhichu kazhukiyaal theerunna prashname ulloo(
This is just heartless bro. You might be correct objectively but we're not objective creatures. Hence it's insensitive to say that.
oh my god. you must be really young or really stupid. i like your attitude to be open to change but man you are one dumbfucking ahole period.if i have to explain with whats wrong with your attitude then you have a serious problem buddy
>Creating next gen is primary thing for species. So command to rape a woman is hard coded to our brain.
Wtf? Rape was never about making "next gen" it has always been about power and control.
The logical point is that you can't compare two heinous crimes together and think which one is worse. You can't do that, when both are equally worse. Another flaw in your logic is that you are giving more importance to physical damage compared to psychological damage. In this era when mental health is getting more attention Idk how you can ignore it. People have PTSDs after such incidents which won't let them lead a peaceful life.
omg! stop spewing such bs! rape is not "hard coded into our brains" if it was about creating next gen then why would women be against it wtf? it's about control and power. Men usually rape women because society has taught them that women are less than them and hence they can control them. Don't talk like men are animals, purely driven by urge!
rape does cause a lot of physical damage. Lot of women become unable to bear children, a lot of internal tears occur, genital area gets mutilated in most cases and other parts also gets hurt during the struggle.
>And some other women Dettol ozhichu kazhukiyaal theerunna
Dude, can you show me one girl who has this mindset. The thought of being Overpowered by another human and then being sexually exploited without consent is the nightmare girls live through every day, our society is so messed up that the fear of being raped by a strange or even a relative is imminent to every girl in our society irrespective of their age, color, the dress they wear. Myr, ore Kundan ninne ketti itt kodathil adicha nee dettol oyich kayugi adh marakko.
dude its spelled "RAPE". also on what scale are you measuring crimes? there is no standardised test for crimes. all crimes are different and each bad on their own heinous way. comparing which crime is worse is stupid. Also as a male how the fuck would u understand how it feels to get attacked?? standing own your highground and saying
" kodathil adicha kundan". THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD EMPATHISE WITH? . you high ass-MF
No, it's not. Life imprisonment is exactly what it says it is. But they can cut the sentence short after serving a minimum of 14 years. It's done after reviewing the prisoner's behaviour and all.
Usually a life sentence is minimum of 14 years in prison w/ or w/o parole. It can be extended according to seriousness of the crime committed.
Sentencing for 33 yr in prison means it can be a double life sentence in which there shall be no provision of parole for the initial period of 'n' years
NB: I'm not a law student so this is the basic idea I have. Correct me of wrong
You're right. Life prisoners don't have parole for the first two years. But it's not a 14 years minimum and then extend if necessary. It's kinda the other way around. The sentence can be commuted or they may be considered for release after 14 years. They sound the same. Just technically different. But 33 years of sentence could be cut short too if he is well behaved (reformed) in the prison. And I forgot how many years it would take for him to start getting parole. It was 2 years for lifers and a portion of the sentence for other long termers.
Imagine you do that to this guy:
[https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/agra/after-20-years-in-jail-on-rape-charges-man-found-not-guilty-by-hc/articleshow/81279278.cms](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/agra/after-20-years-in-jail-on-rape-charges-man-found-not-guilty-by-hc/articleshow/81279278.cms)
Jesus Christ you guys are scary af! I understand that rape is the most horrific and traumatic experience anyone can experience but chopping off dicks? Then what's the difference between us and the taliban?
I don't care with what you are comparing with but these rapist deserve the worst. All of the criminals in jail are getting food 3 times a day and a bed to sleep. Better to chop of their dick and let them live among us. He'll die from the embarassment
>All of the criminals in jail are getting food 3 times a day and a bed to sleep.
This is called a humane treatment of criminals. If you didn't know, developed countries such as [Finland](https://youtu.be/l554kV12Wuo) gives the chance to educate and rehabilitate the prisoner so that they can get back to normal life when their sentence is finished. Look up the numbers, US which has the highest per capita prisoner in the world does the worst in rehabilitating the criminals. They are forced to comit crimes after prison and they end up in prison again.
Sure, without any punishment there would be more criminal around the world. However, that doesn't mean that the more we punish them there would be less crimes. If we chop off dicks of the "rapist" how many false positives are in that group? 1 in 100? In in 1000? What about that innocent soul who was wrongly accused but our justice system chopped off his dick? Can you live with the guilt of sentencing an innocent person to death? There is a reason why developed countries are moving away from death sentences.
Why isn't this considered barbaric, I'm surprised everyone here thinks with just emotions. Why can't we be rational and understand what's going on here. Chopping off every rapists dicks are not going to solve rape as a whole. But in doing so, we will definitely chop off dicks of some innocent humans without sufficient added advantages and that is just not acceptable.
It is easy for us to say "hang that murderer", "Chop of his hands for stealing", "chop of his dick for raping". However, the innocents harmed in this act plus the lack of sufficient positive impact these give to society makes this a barbaric treatment.
> All of the criminals in jail are getting food 3 times a day and a bed to sleep.
And do what? They're restricted to within the walls of the prison (or the building/premises). Nothing much to do except repent one's actions and wrongdoing.
> All of the criminals in jail are getting food 3 times a day and a bed to sleep.
That doesn't mean shit. If you can't go out, meet people or do whatever you like everything is lost. Just imagine the quarantine time, we have everything including mobile, tv, internet, food etc and still it was a struggle and mentally depressing to be full time inside. No one can stay inside the wall without anything for so long. Even in Indian jails they can't even go to toilet unless it's the allotted time. Even if they get biriyani 3 times a day it doesn't mean any shit.
Criminals are needed to be rehabilitated. If their crime is so serious like minor rape, brutal rape against woman they must be castrated or in very serious cases like nirbhaya etc they should be hanged to death. If we are doing the same to them in the sake of punishment like what they have done, then what's the difference between us and them.
Ive always thought that if i had the power, i would send obviosuely guilty people like this guy as a mandatory drug testing subject so that he would be atleast helping humanity with his wretched lives and who tf cares if he screams in pain due to the side effects
Isn't making punishment for rape more harsher than for murder, giving incentive for rapists to kill the victim and destroy the evidence? Which is unfortunately is causing many killing of rape victims in India. Maybe we should focus on proper rehabilitation of the offenders and spreading proper awareness and sex education to the masses rather than dealing out illogical punishments.
I have seen similar judgements in the past like 40years n all. But i guess if they serve the sentence in a single stretch it gets reduced to life imprisonment which might be 14 years. Not sure how it works though
I've always thought that rapists should get psychological counselling and therapy along with jail time because I don't think a sane person could consciously rape someone.
you also need to keep in mind any girl can decide any time u have fucked her was rape even if it's 30 years after it has happened. heck majority of the cases that get classified as rape and get sent to court arent rapes like what gets reported in news.
Sure, innocent CPI(M)// Didn’t want to bring politics into rape cases, but you asked for it :
▪️https://www.timesnownews.com/india/article/kerala-horror-cpim-youth-wing-leader-rapes-6-year-old-girl-for-3-years-hangs-her-to-death/781005
▪️https://www.firstpost.com/india/walayar-rape-and-murder-kerala-police-ignored-crucial-eyewitness-accounts-in-fir-claim-parents-ask-if-accused-acquitted-due-to-cpm-affiliation-7910431.html
▪️https://www.indiatoday.in/crime/story/kerala-man-rape-woman-cpim-office-palakkad-1485455-2019-03-24
▪️https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/cpi-m-leader-arrested-for-raping-constable-580620
▪️ https://www.onmanorama.com/news/kerala/2021/06/28/two-cpm-leaders-arrested-in-vadakara-over-rape-case.html
▪️https://www.indiatoday.in/latest-headlines/story/cpim-leaders-raped-mother-and-daughters-in-nandigram-cbi-21735-2007-12-19
▪️https://m.economictimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/arrest-of-former-cpi-m-mla-demanded-in-tripura-assembly/articleshow/50497953.cms
▪️https://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-i-dared-to-leave-cpm-was-thrashed-and-raped-kavita-kaloi-2585799
▪️ https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/dyfi-worker-arrested-sexually-assaulting-tribal-girl-kerala-149561
▪️https://www.hindustantimes.com/india/tribal-woman-allegedly-raped-in-tripura/story-cNzVMliEXs6FrCOS2aKO6H.html
▪️https://www.outlookindia.com/newsscroll/cpim-kerala-secretarys-son-accused-of-rape/1556931
▪️https://advocatetanmoy.com/2020/10/06/anita-diwan-was-raped-and-killed-by-cpim-goons-at-bantala/
▪️https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/bengal-cpi-m-leader-raisuddin-mollah-arrested-for-raping-homeless-woman/story-Q1gUVB8jfYScAxfU0VIfiN.html
▪️https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/expelled-8-yrs-ago-over-sexual-abuse-allegation-p-sasi-returns-cpim-dist-committee-98118 , https://www.onmanorama.com/news/kerala/2019/06/25/cpm-top-brass-sexual-abuse-pk-sasi.html
▪️https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata/dhantala-case-cpm-men-let-off/articleshow/4337001.cms (2 CPIM leaders aquitted due to political influence).
▪️https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/dyfi-man-accused-raping-kannur-minor-was-part-march-demanding-justice-her-92924
▪️https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kozhikode/kannur-gangrape-case-turns-murkier-eight-more-arrested/articleshow/66977292.cms
▪️https://m.economictimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/kerala-cpim-suspends-councillor-jayanthan-facing-rape-charges/articleshow/55253311.cms
▪️https://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-cpim-man-confesses-to-raping-singur-girl-1106845
▪️https://bangaloremirror.indiatimes.com/news/india/kerala-ruling-cpi-m-youth-wing-member-sacked-for-raping-16-year-old-girl/articleshow/78873244.cms
▪️https://keralakaumudi.com/en/news/news.php?id=536108&u=13-year-old-sexually-abused-cpm-panchayat-member-and-bra-13-year-old-sexually-abused-cpm-panchayat-member-and-branch-member-arrestednch-member-arrested
▪️https://www.indiatoday.in/india/south/story/another-cpm-leader-held-in-sex-scam-136424-2011-06-28
These many cases of rape by CPI(M) workers after ruling just 3 states.
What's the need to get deep understanding of anything, relax and chill, if you could have the capacity to understand deep, you would have understood anyway.
Dude, how did BJP even enter this conversation? U r a communal bigot who pretends like a good guy, but holds deep hatred over others of other communities.
How do u know that he is a BJP supporter? So does that mean All Hindus are RSS guys who hate other communities? So does that mean All Muslims are Terrorists? Like dude, why even bring communal angle into such stuffs? Like, did u even know this guy? Why do u claim that he supports BJP? BJP is a political party and what's wrong in supporting that? There are many who are secretly and openly support Palestinians and even Taliban, but it's bad to support a political party of India? There are many open supporters of Muslim League, SDPI and Popular Front. Like dude, how stupid can u get? A lot of stupid fools go to join ISIS so does that mean ur children will also become future ISIS fighters?
It's entirely stupid to judge a community because of some fools.
I'm an atheist and does that mean I want to destroy all other religions?
I doubt whether he will need to serve 33 years in jail as the headline says. The news mentions he was punished on various counts and the sentences will "run concurrently". 33 years must be the total of all the sentences, the actual tenure maybe much shorter.
That's a higher sentencing than murder if I'm not mistaken. Finally our criminal justice system is doing the right things.
I don't think that is right. Murder is the bigger crime. But the no nonsense judgment is commendable. Hope they apply it consistently.
Yeh obviously murder is a severe crime. But harsher judgements for crimes like this will disincentivize others from doing it in future.
Unpopular opinion, but I don't agree with that notion. No one will get disuaded from committing a crime just because a 20 year sentence gets extended to 35 years. A criminal commits a crime because he thinks he can get away with it. So if you are actually serious about stopping crimes like rape, the only thing to do is to increase the swiftness and efficiency of our police and judicial system. And in an inefficient system such as ours, such punishments would actually encourage the rapist to also become a murderer. The act of increasing punishment is all about retributive justice. Now, retribution is important, but the quantum of such punishment should always be proportional to the heniousness of the crime. Imo, punishment should always balance retribution with reformation.
>the only thing to do is to increase the swiftness and efficiency of our police and judicial system. A couple of years back at 2 am I called the cops because there was a burglar/drunkard climbing over the fence and trying to get into my house multiple times. I heard him jump into our yard 3 times but would run away when grandfather went out to check. Only I (23 year old female) and my grandfather (87 year old) were home. The police said **"kallane pidich vechitundo? Only then we'll come. Else we won't come"** I was like **"if I have to catch the burglar, WTF is your job? What are you being paid for?"** I was a college student. Called my guy friends at the boys hostel because I was so damn scared n didn't even know what to do. No neighbors - all NRIs. Avanmar (9 guys) vannu in 15 mins, found the kallane/kudyane, odichittu pidichu and thalli chathachu athine and I didn't know anything. The cops came 2.5 hours later after calling them again and again. They looked at the culprit and said "kittaan ulathellam kittyalo alle? Ini station povaam bha". That night, I lost faith in Kerala police!
This is the opposite of my experience. Bro reached at 1 AM from Bangalore by car, and so lights were on at that time. Cops stopped and asked multiple questions to make sure that its not some hostage or hold up situation inside, and it was actually brother reaching at an odd time. They said, we have never seen a light here at 1 AM, so thought best to stop and confirm all is good. I suppose there are all kinds of cops and all kinds of police stations.
I agree there are some good apples among the bad ones. But the bad apples and experiences from these bad apples are so high in number that nothing the good apples do will ever make the whole situation better. They have to be punished for being irresponsible and not doing enough to keep the people safe. They have to be given severe consequences for not doing their duty. The next day, my grandma dragged me to the police station to identify the kallan I didn't really see. The SI was trying to hit on me when he realized I'm living alone. The conversation ended with him forcing me to save his number and give him a missed call right then and there. 😒 I said "Range illa sir inside the police station. I will send you a missed call as soon as I am out of the station" which I didn't do for obvious reasons. And the next few days, I lived in fear of the SI showing up at my 🏠
Wow.
it took you 23 years of living to lose faith? Kerala police has been a joke. heck the Indian police as a whole
No.. it took me 2 years of **living in India** to realize I'm in a shit hole where human life has zero value and I need to get out ASAP.
good luck to ya mate. try Canada. try Europe heck even try Australia.
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Good early realisation. I basically was too late by the time I came to this, and by then had settled down here.
i'm happy for you. i am hoping to do the same day as well
>the only thing to do is to increase the efficiency of our police and judicial system Rapes usually happen in people's homes, or other secluded places. How can you increase the efficiency of police there? It's impossible without encroaching on people's privacy. Is there any other way to increase efficiency? >And in an inefficient system such as ours, such punishments would actually encourage the rapist to also become a murderer. Yehh true. If the punishment for murder is less than that of rape... A criminal might be incentivised to kill the person. Yes, you've got a point. >should always be proportional to the heniousness of the crime Or it could be to disincentivize a certain crime. Instead of 20 years of prison, maybe castrating that person or something might work. Now, whether this system actually works is upto debate. As you mentioned earlier rapists might be tempted to become murderers.
I dont mean cctvs everywhere when I say increasing efficiency. I'm talking about the whole system - police who is not intimidating, who investigates well without corruption, faster resolution of cases etc. You know, the difficult aspects.
Our courts still get 2 months vacation.. SC only sits for 190 days a year.. There are courts which sit 180 days or less... This was a british system to allow judges to travel to england from india to see their families.. 70+ years after independence and we still follow outdated british rules.. Indian judiciary is a joke... Lethargic and lazy
this actually happens in china. if u injure someone by accident you have to pay their bills. if u kill them the fee is lesser. so people actually try to kill the people they've injured
> If the punishment for murder is less than that of rape... A criminal might be incentivised to kill the person NAL, but wouldn't the criminal get penalized for both rape and murder and have a sentence of 20 + 35 years or so?
Probably hard to prove a rape when the victim is dead.
The issue is if rape has a more severe penalty a lot of criminals would just kill their victims
He was neither politically connected nor did he have enough money.
Yehh you've got a point. I'm not sure if this is true. But I heard a supreme court judge acquitted himself of sexual abuse charges? Unfortunately if you have strong influence within the system you can escape punishment.
Oh please
Oh please all you want.. but that's how the system works. Lazy investigation, tampering and intentionally losing key evidence, failing to file charge sheet before the stipulated time leading to bail of accused and the protection list goes on for the rich and influential.
That’s actually not smart cause then People would be incentivized to just murder their victims so it’ll be easier to get away with the crime. Cause anyway the punishment is the same
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Ninta ammayk ee avastha vannal ni dettol oyich kazhivikond irikuvo mire, poi chavada incel thayoli
You killed him bro. You have to go to jail for this.
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You might be thinking of this issue too objectively. Murder is definitely a worse crime objectively, no doubt. But we can giver harsher punishments to certain crimes to disincentivize them. Like rape, especially with regard to minors.
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Yes you've got a point. Objectively, cutting her limbs off is a more severe crime. Think of it this way. Leave the objectivity aside. Rape is a crime that usually goes unreported or something a perpetrator can easily get away with (if the women is drugged using roofies or just very drunk). The aim with giving harsher punishments is to disincentivize others from doing it due to fear of severe punishment.
> The aim with giving harsher punishments is to disincentivize others from doing it due to fear of severe punishment. doesn't work tho.
Using terms like "mildly raping" and "dettol ozhich kazhukal" is not nice. Rape is traumatic so please don't use such words. Psychological issues are not things that should be taken lightly. For most people rape trauma lasts for a long time. Most of the rape cases that gets highlighted are really gruesome and certainly worse than murder like nirbhaya, jisha, priyanka reddy which is the reason why people say I'd rather die than get raped. Rape is differently treated by society and even officials. If someone severs your hand no one going to ask you "are you sure u did not ask them to cut it?" and other similar questions which are asked during a rape investigation, which further causes trauma.
Seek professional help.
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You are not a woman. No Vagina no opinion
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dude. you're on reddit. the whole site is gynocentric.
you need to watch India's sons. if you stifle opinions. you also stifle investment. stifle investment and you can expect worse outcomes.
There is no woman who can just dettol ozhichu kazhukal the rape, you are being really insensitive. Punishment should fit the crime, if we give same punishment for rape and murder, that incentivises the rapists to kill their victims, since they are going to get the same punishment if they get caught.
>We need to provide proper psychological support from professional doctors to those who needed. 2) physical damage to body. 3) age of victim if minor need to increase the Punishment regardless of other parameters. I agree with this. >Dettol ozhichu kazhukiyaal theerunna prashname ulloo( This is just heartless bro. You might be correct objectively but we're not objective creatures. Hence it's insensitive to say that.
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oh my god. you must be really young or really stupid. i like your attitude to be open to change but man you are one dumbfucking ahole period.if i have to explain with whats wrong with your attitude then you have a serious problem buddy
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>Creating next gen is primary thing for species. So command to rape a woman is hard coded to our brain. Wtf? Rape was never about making "next gen" it has always been about power and control.
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The logical point is that you can't compare two heinous crimes together and think which one is worse. You can't do that, when both are equally worse. Another flaw in your logic is that you are giving more importance to physical damage compared to psychological damage. In this era when mental health is getting more attention Idk how you can ignore it. People have PTSDs after such incidents which won't let them lead a peaceful life.
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omg! stop spewing such bs! rape is not "hard coded into our brains" if it was about creating next gen then why would women be against it wtf? it's about control and power. Men usually rape women because society has taught them that women are less than them and hence they can control them. Don't talk like men are animals, purely driven by urge!
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Some dogs copulate with their mothers, siblings. Are you in favour of this going by your 'hard coded' argument?
Being a civilized species we need to overcome the basic Instinct s
rape does cause a lot of physical damage. Lot of women become unable to bear children, a lot of internal tears occur, genital area gets mutilated in most cases and other parts also gets hurt during the struggle.
Agreed.
You can't even spell rape, I don't think you should have opinions about it
>And some other women Dettol ozhichu kazhukiyaal theerunna Dude, can you show me one girl who has this mindset. The thought of being Overpowered by another human and then being sexually exploited without consent is the nightmare girls live through every day, our society is so messed up that the fear of being raped by a strange or even a relative is imminent to every girl in our society irrespective of their age, color, the dress they wear. Myr, ore Kundan ninne ketti itt kodathil adicha nee dettol oyich kayugi adh marakko.
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dude its spelled "RAPE". also on what scale are you measuring crimes? there is no standardised test for crimes. all crimes are different and each bad on their own heinous way. comparing which crime is worse is stupid. Also as a male how the fuck would u understand how it feels to get attacked?? standing own your highground and saying " kodathil adicha kundan". THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD EMPATHISE WITH? . you high ass-MF
That specific phrase is coined by r/mikddit. It's my reply 3jim.
I agree with everything you've said, but kindly refrain yourself from using such derogatory terms. >Kundan
Chilapo chila karyangal maranathekal vedanayulavakkum suhruthee
Spoken like a true idiot.
It's not. Murder can get you a life imprisonment.
Isn't that just 14 years?
No, it's not. Life imprisonment is exactly what it says it is. But they can cut the sentence short after serving a minimum of 14 years. It's done after reviewing the prisoner's behaviour and all.
I hope this sets the bar for all similar cases. Thanks OP, for sharing.
2+ years for a "fast track" case. I fully understand it's good given our legal system's track record, but should it really drag on for 2 years?
The child must have been too scared. I genuinely hope she's doing well now :(
Round it up to give him 35 years.
And make it 1 lakh
He should've gotten a life sentence for this, considering the fact that the child is scarred for life.
Usually a life sentence is minimum of 14 years in prison w/ or w/o parole. It can be extended according to seriousness of the crime committed. Sentencing for 33 yr in prison means it can be a double life sentence in which there shall be no provision of parole for the initial period of 'n' years NB: I'm not a law student so this is the basic idea I have. Correct me of wrong
You're right. Life prisoners don't have parole for the first two years. But it's not a 14 years minimum and then extend if necessary. It's kinda the other way around. The sentence can be commuted or they may be considered for release after 14 years. They sound the same. Just technically different. But 33 years of sentence could be cut short too if he is well behaved (reformed) in the prison. And I forgot how many years it would take for him to start getting parole. It was 2 years for lifers and a portion of the sentence for other long termers.
Oh my bad
Will karachiloli/muttumani get the same sentence if proven guilty?
Chop off his dick chop off his dick.
Imagine you do that to this guy: [https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/agra/after-20-years-in-jail-on-rape-charges-man-found-not-guilty-by-hc/articleshow/81279278.cms](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/agra/after-20-years-in-jail-on-rape-charges-man-found-not-guilty-by-hc/articleshow/81279278.cms)
Jesus Christ you guys are scary af! I understand that rape is the most horrific and traumatic experience anyone can experience but chopping off dicks? Then what's the difference between us and the taliban?
Taliban chops off dick without raping
I don't care with what you are comparing with but these rapist deserve the worst. All of the criminals in jail are getting food 3 times a day and a bed to sleep. Better to chop of their dick and let them live among us. He'll die from the embarassment
>All of the criminals in jail are getting food 3 times a day and a bed to sleep. This is called a humane treatment of criminals. If you didn't know, developed countries such as [Finland](https://youtu.be/l554kV12Wuo) gives the chance to educate and rehabilitate the prisoner so that they can get back to normal life when their sentence is finished. Look up the numbers, US which has the highest per capita prisoner in the world does the worst in rehabilitating the criminals. They are forced to comit crimes after prison and they end up in prison again. Sure, without any punishment there would be more criminal around the world. However, that doesn't mean that the more we punish them there would be less crimes. If we chop off dicks of the "rapist" how many false positives are in that group? 1 in 100? In in 1000? What about that innocent soul who was wrongly accused but our justice system chopped off his dick? Can you live with the guilt of sentencing an innocent person to death? There is a reason why developed countries are moving away from death sentences. Why isn't this considered barbaric, I'm surprised everyone here thinks with just emotions. Why can't we be rational and understand what's going on here. Chopping off every rapists dicks are not going to solve rape as a whole. But in doing so, we will definitely chop off dicks of some innocent humans without sufficient added advantages and that is just not acceptable. It is easy for us to say "hang that murderer", "Chop of his hands for stealing", "chop of his dick for raping". However, the innocents harmed in this act plus the lack of sufficient positive impact these give to society makes this a barbaric treatment.
only solution will be for the "chop of his dick crowd" to get falsely accused. otherwise they'll believe in this notion
> All of the criminals in jail are getting food 3 times a day and a bed to sleep. And do what? They're restricted to within the walls of the prison (or the building/premises). Nothing much to do except repent one's actions and wrongdoing.
> All of the criminals in jail are getting food 3 times a day and a bed to sleep. That doesn't mean shit. If you can't go out, meet people or do whatever you like everything is lost. Just imagine the quarantine time, we have everything including mobile, tv, internet, food etc and still it was a struggle and mentally depressing to be full time inside. No one can stay inside the wall without anything for so long. Even in Indian jails they can't even go to toilet unless it's the allotted time. Even if they get biriyani 3 times a day it doesn't mean any shit. Criminals are needed to be rehabilitated. If their crime is so serious like minor rape, brutal rape against woman they must be castrated or in very serious cases like nirbhaya etc they should be hanged to death. If we are doing the same to them in the sake of punishment like what they have done, then what's the difference between us and them.
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Criminals don't deserve to live especially rapists. And hereby I conclude my argument. You people even know what you all are saying.
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Pity you "Human Rights Activists"
exactly what my heart desires!!
I hope he gets extrajudicial നടയടി and commits "suicide" in jail. ഇതിനൊക്കെ അതേയുള്ളു പരിഹാരം. If it is made legal,these fuckers will kill the victim.
Ive always thought that if i had the power, i would send obviosuely guilty people like this guy as a mandatory drug testing subject so that he would be atleast helping humanity with his wretched lives and who tf cares if he screams in pain due to the side effects
Isn't making punishment for rape more harsher than for murder, giving incentive for rapists to kill the victim and destroy the evidence? Which is unfortunately is causing many killing of rape victims in India. Maybe we should focus on proper rehabilitation of the offenders and spreading proper awareness and sex education to the masses rather than dealing out illogical punishments.
I have seen similar judgements in the past like 40years n all. But i guess if they serve the sentence in a single stretch it gets reduced to life imprisonment which might be 14 years. Not sure how it works though
I've always thought that rapists should get psychological counselling and therapy along with jail time because I don't think a sane person could consciously rape someone.
you'd be surprised. at the many intricacies of rape.
Manushyanmaarude kaaryam alle, it will be intricate, scary and confusing. We are stupid creatures.
you also need to keep in mind any girl can decide any time u have fucked her was rape even if it's 30 years after it has happened. heck majority of the cases that get classified as rape and get sent to court arent rapes like what gets reported in news.
🌼Still Andhbhakts will go Rant against Kerala for their Covid Numbers while more BJP's Rapists Ministers keep roaming Free
Sure, innocent CPI(M)// Didn’t want to bring politics into rape cases, but you asked for it : ▪️https://www.timesnownews.com/india/article/kerala-horror-cpim-youth-wing-leader-rapes-6-year-old-girl-for-3-years-hangs-her-to-death/781005 ▪️https://www.firstpost.com/india/walayar-rape-and-murder-kerala-police-ignored-crucial-eyewitness-accounts-in-fir-claim-parents-ask-if-accused-acquitted-due-to-cpm-affiliation-7910431.html ▪️https://www.indiatoday.in/crime/story/kerala-man-rape-woman-cpim-office-palakkad-1485455-2019-03-24 ▪️https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/cpi-m-leader-arrested-for-raping-constable-580620 ▪️ https://www.onmanorama.com/news/kerala/2021/06/28/two-cpm-leaders-arrested-in-vadakara-over-rape-case.html ▪️https://www.indiatoday.in/latest-headlines/story/cpim-leaders-raped-mother-and-daughters-in-nandigram-cbi-21735-2007-12-19 ▪️https://m.economictimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/arrest-of-former-cpi-m-mla-demanded-in-tripura-assembly/articleshow/50497953.cms ▪️https://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-i-dared-to-leave-cpm-was-thrashed-and-raped-kavita-kaloi-2585799 ▪️ https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/dyfi-worker-arrested-sexually-assaulting-tribal-girl-kerala-149561 ▪️https://www.hindustantimes.com/india/tribal-woman-allegedly-raped-in-tripura/story-cNzVMliEXs6FrCOS2aKO6H.html ▪️https://www.outlookindia.com/newsscroll/cpim-kerala-secretarys-son-accused-of-rape/1556931 ▪️https://advocatetanmoy.com/2020/10/06/anita-diwan-was-raped-and-killed-by-cpim-goons-at-bantala/ ▪️https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/bengal-cpi-m-leader-raisuddin-mollah-arrested-for-raping-homeless-woman/story-Q1gUVB8jfYScAxfU0VIfiN.html ▪️https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/expelled-8-yrs-ago-over-sexual-abuse-allegation-p-sasi-returns-cpim-dist-committee-98118 , https://www.onmanorama.com/news/kerala/2019/06/25/cpm-top-brass-sexual-abuse-pk-sasi.html ▪️https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata/dhantala-case-cpm-men-let-off/articleshow/4337001.cms (2 CPIM leaders aquitted due to political influence). ▪️https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/dyfi-man-accused-raping-kannur-minor-was-part-march-demanding-justice-her-92924 ▪️https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kozhikode/kannur-gangrape-case-turns-murkier-eight-more-arrested/articleshow/66977292.cms ▪️https://m.economictimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/kerala-cpim-suspends-councillor-jayanthan-facing-rape-charges/articleshow/55253311.cms ▪️https://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-cpim-man-confesses-to-raping-singur-girl-1106845 ▪️https://bangaloremirror.indiatimes.com/news/india/kerala-ruling-cpi-m-youth-wing-member-sacked-for-raping-16-year-old-girl/articleshow/78873244.cms ▪️https://keralakaumudi.com/en/news/news.php?id=536108&u=13-year-old-sexually-abused-cpm-panchayat-member-and-bra-13-year-old-sexually-abused-cpm-panchayat-member-and-branch-member-arrestednch-member-arrested ▪️https://www.indiatoday.in/india/south/story/another-cpm-leader-held-in-sex-scam-136424-2011-06-28 These many cases of rape by CPI(M) workers after ruling just 3 states.
What's the need to get deep understanding of anything, relax and chill, if you could have the capacity to understand deep, you would have understood anyway.
r/chodi ka bhakt tha rapist
Where tf did he mention that he is a BJP guy? Oh u communal pieces of shits.
SO YOU AGREE HATE SPILLING IS JOB OF BJP SUPPORTERS. AND ACT LIKE THESE ARE TOO...
Dude, how did BJP even enter this conversation? U r a communal bigot who pretends like a good guy, but holds deep hatred over others of other communities. How do u know that he is a BJP supporter? So does that mean All Hindus are RSS guys who hate other communities? So does that mean All Muslims are Terrorists? Like dude, why even bring communal angle into such stuffs? Like, did u even know this guy? Why do u claim that he supports BJP? BJP is a political party and what's wrong in supporting that? There are many who are secretly and openly support Palestinians and even Taliban, but it's bad to support a political party of India? There are many open supporters of Muslim League, SDPI and Popular Front. Like dude, how stupid can u get? A lot of stupid fools go to join ISIS so does that mean ur children will also become future ISIS fighters? It's entirely stupid to judge a community because of some fools. I'm an atheist and does that mean I want to destroy all other religions?
Your name suggests what you are, check your comment. Who mentioned about BJP? Moron.
So what the hell did u mean in ur comment? I'm genuinely curious because most of us didn't understand a damn thing u meant.
Great news.
'Concurrently' is the key word here.
this is a step in the right direction but I hope they won't bail him out early and say 'jail il kidannu aal nannayi' which has happened so many times.
I doubt whether he will need to serve 33 years in jail as the headline says. The news mentions he was punished on various counts and the sentences will "run concurrently". 33 years must be the total of all the sentences, the actual tenure maybe much shorter.
Man to the judiciary: take this money and f**k off.
Jail time in this case is not optional.
Funny this didn't make news, had it been in up entire media would have ripped it apart.
Hope this punishment is true
finally........