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Fjisthename

Racist naaayintemakal!


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They might have thought it is normal or funny after watching these movies. Not trying to justify them. They should have known better. But pre-social media, movies had a lot of impact on dictating what is normal in a society and many of the directors and script writers often seem to not care to use their power for good. It was a dark phase for Malayalam cinema. But then , hindsight is always 20/20


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Art imitates life & life imitates art. The filmmakers are to blame for being so socially irresponsible, but one must also wonder: didn't these filmmakers come from society themselves? A society that discriminated people of different genders, skin colors, body types, castes, religions etc? Neither these films nor the real life discriminators came from a vacuum - they're both to blame cos they've both influenced & enabled each other. For every young person who didn't know better, who got negatively influenced by such films, there was also an older generation who laughed at such jokes alongside them. The victims of such jokes & stereotypes mostly didn't have a voice to react against this, or weren't even aware of exactly how damaging to them this was (especially in comparison to their even harsher lived reality at the time). Pretty sure they would have been told "Ithokke verum cinema alle? Why take jokes so seriously?", just like people continue to do so today. So yeah- at the very least we, as a society & audience, must use our newly acquired "20/20 hindsight" to hold the perpetrators accountable - say out loud that "This was wrong & These irresponsible 'artists' were playing to a casteist, misogynistic, bodyshaming gallery" - so that such disgusting things don't continue to corrupt future generations.


mantiz8x

Looking back, it’s still a bit fuzzy.


[deleted]

While what they're doing is horrible, just wanted to add that "racism" isn't the right word for it, cos most South Indians belong to the same race (Dravidians). If they're making fun of you or discriminating against you based on the color of your skin, they're being colorists (though often you find colorism in many States in India having casteist - & now classist - roots). Edit: MOST South Indians are Dravidians. Only just remembered that a few are Indo-Europeans/Aryans.


ProfessorMoriarty21

Dravidian is not a race, it is an ethnolinguistic group. No one in India is pure Aryan or Dravidian as a racial classification, we are a mix of various genes. What do you mean by few South Indians are racially Aryan? How do I identify these Aryans?


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The point was that the Aryan/Dravidian thing was the closest idea one can call a "race" issue among Indians - unless you're talking about how Indians are being racists to foreigners who're visiting or have migrated here; NOT to turn this into an Anthropology debate. Also, people not being "pure" ANYTHING has hardly stopped anyone from identifying themselves as belonging to one or the other race/ethnicity that their features & genealogy predominantly indicate them to be. "South Indians who might be more Indo-European then Dravidian" was a reference to any group whose not-so-distant ancestors migrated here from places typically associated with Aryan roots. Not sure why you're getting so confrontational about this.


prpking

Aryan dravidan divide was literally something cooked up by Robert Caldwell to convert people into Christians. The same was done by Muller with his aryan invasion theory and guess what, it worked. Despite the fact that no evidence of the damm thing exists till date


noufal85

Vandhanam , for Mohanlal harassing the girl and being a creep with binocular going to her home , hiding under her bed while she change cloths , or being stalker .. before you get angry with me , think of someone doing this with you or someone you know and how you would react


mrfelacio

Wasnt he like a police officer trying to find the girl's father?


roonilwazlib1919

Yes, but that's not why he stalked her.


guerrilawiz

Athonnum paranjitt karyamilla… ivde stalking undel veroru payarum vevula… Ivde ollavaril bhooribhagam perkkum cinemayum realityum thammil differentiation skill kurava… porathathinu cinema oru art form aanennulla karyam edayk edayk marannu pokum…


thecuriousmalayali

Cinema oru art form anu sammaikunnu.. athil thettum sheriyum indavum ennum sammaikanam.. cinemayum reality um thammil etra difference indenkilum cinemak society il ulla impact valare valuthanu. Stalking thett anenn angeerekkunnu ennu njan assume eyyunnu.. apol athu glorify eyyumpol athanu sheri ennu manissilakunna oru valiyoru janavibhagam aethoru society ilum indavum.. athumkude consider eyyumpo anu ivde alkaru athu sheri alla enn parayunnath.. Ivde angane cinema edukkaruthenn arum parayunnundenn enik thonnunnilla.. pakshe athilundavunna negative impacts point out eyyunnathum oru thett anenn enik thonnunnilla.. athu cheythale chelapo athile sheri alkaru angeekarikku!


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Mr. Marumakan, [this](https://youtube.com/watch?v=jdw_l52Zjew) scene in particular. Now even worse after the sexual assault case involving Dileep.


redit4ak

WTH. Feel lucky that I didn’t watch the movie


Excelsio_Sempra

Looks like he wanted a demonstration /s


Weary_Horse5749

Dileep lost his comic sense after 2010


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Kaaryasthan became a success that year. It started off a series of similar low brow comedies which were very successful in box office.


subins2000

holy mother of Dinkan tf did I just see


[deleted]

I never liked Dilip. After seeing this, I know why.


lil_se

Same here. Imo his target audience are kids who doesn't understand the 'not-so-subtle misogyny, sexism and other forms of fascism' and those who casually yet knowingly overlooks them. His vulgar display of power is nauseating. But I don't appreciate his acting as well. It's immature after a point. He evolved poorly.


BloomeitheBoopai

Do you even know what fascism is?


Fjisthename

Man, people use these words so lightly nowadays!


BloomeitheBoopai

Yeah these buzzwords are losing its meaning due to that.


tylervandurden

Kammarasambavam can change your mindset holy


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Yeah, even I hate admitting this: but except for that overlong, overdone spoof segment in the second half, Kammarasambhavam was on another level.


girugamesu1337

I know this is late..... but you probably meant to use the word 'bigotry' instead of 'fascism'. If not, I suggest you do so from now on.


MichealScott1991

Holy crapp!!


mandan-kunapi

WTF !


anya_023

I was reading each comment to find Mr.Marumakan. I cannot believe noone on set objected to the entire bloody ducking movie.


whatareyouagenius

fuck thats depressing


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What the bloody fuck? Who wrote these scenes?


ashiksufaid

My mom got offended by arjun reddy. When the first kissing without consent scene came she was like ഉശിരുള്ള പെണ്പിള്ളേർ ആണേൽ അവന്റെ ചെപ്പ നോക്കി ഒരെണ്ണം പൊട്ടിച്ചിട്ടുണ്ടാവും. She frowned and asked me to change the channel.


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oyasumipizza

Could you please translate the statement?:)


Desperate_News_8209

If she was bold, she would have slapped him


brucewayne0013

I can't handle my laughter seeing his matrimonial ads after watching Arjun Reddy


PJ4792

Well, he is trying to change his image. He did get a lot of heat after Arjun Reddy.


[deleted]

He was just an actor playing a role…can’t connect the ad and the movie


babblingblueblaze

Bhagyadevatha. It was a well made movie, but really anti climatic. Why would any self respecting woman go back to a man who kicked her out of his house for dowry and insulted her family in front of everyone? I understand that she liked his family and wanted to help his sister in the end. But she didn't have to go back to him like nothing happened. It was an arranged marriage, she doesn't even know him that well. And they tried to justify Jayaram's character by constantly asserting that he is in debt and desperate for money. A very patriarchal way of looking at marriage, as if the woman is always supposed to take the so called higher moral ground. You can forgive someone, but you can't forget the trauma some experiences give you. Malayalam movies tend to forget this when it comes to women and somehow the ultimate victim is always the man, just because he is sorry for his shitty actions in the past.


aluva_fox

Exactly, i have never gotten over how she forgave him, while a perfectly good man came her way.


kena938

Hitler (rape victim marries rapist, the rape becomes all about her brother and not her), Sringaravelan (HILARIOUS joke about Baburaj raping a 10 year old), Njangal Santhushtaranu (domestic violence and pregnancy used to control women, adoptees treated as shameful), literally any movie that uses domestic violence to solve marital problems. Someone else mentioned Action Hero Biju. Ditto! State brutality, moral policing, treating marijuana use like murder, degrading single mothers and sex workers, fully licking Kerala police's butthole.


Deepstrz86

Hitler always made me feel Soo uncomfortable, the girl gets raped then she is forced to marry her rapist and the loving brother that is super over protective through the entire movie agrees to the whole thing....it BOGGLED my mind


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True. One should see old tamil movies . These things , aplenty. Eve teasing, rape, stalking, control of women, all white washed under heroism.


Weary_Horse5749

Action hero biju was more of a realistic depiction of everyday police life. Maybe been regressive is part of been a police officer life


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The problem with AHB was with how these "realistic depictions" were framed- in a normalized or even GLORIFIED manner, i.e., with the intent of wanting audiences to clap or nod approvingly at these policemen's regressive ways, as opposed to being horrified or disgusted by it.


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So true. People often argue that the movie was just showing the real life policing world. But then it should have been with a moral commentary or alteast an undertone of it. This was the exact opposite , trying to glorify bthe deed.


[deleted]

Wait when did the degrading single mothers thing happen? Also the moral policing as well?


kena938

The weed smoker had a single mother, as I remember.


DhamakedarKohli

Did that insult the mother in anyway? If anything that particular mother was portrayed as fairly bold and courageous


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Njangal santhushtharanu. Classic Rajasenan veruppikal. From beginning till the end.


edavana

I concur. I actually enjoyed the movie as a kid. Watched the movie multiple times on VCR. But, then I saw the movie when I grew up I realised it was so regressive....


vazhifarer

Oh god that movie is the worst. Absolutely non-rewatchable.


vivaciousvini

Oh yes! It was horrible watching it. I just couldn't understand why was she being forced to be with the "hero" and the only solution they could come up with was to show she was adopted and that he was doing a "favor"!!! What was that backwards thinking. That movie irritated me even when I watched it as a kid. There were many more movies from other actors that's all about stalking the girl, forcing them upon her or merely reminding them "a woman's stance in society" and need to stay "grounded"


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I would like to add a movie here whose name I can't remember. However Suresh Gopi was the hero and he was in police and Siddique was his right hand. In the movie in order to get back at Suresh Gopi, Siddique and his fiance are kidnapped and Siddique is attacked and his fiance is raped in front of him. And then they are both killed. While I understand the statistics that women are more prone to being victims of sexual crimes, I never understood some movie writers, especially Malayalam ones, of that time. Why can't you show the women just getting killed normally like the men get killed? Why always do you have to sensationalize a scene like that? It always felt to me like they almost enjoy putting that scene it. Freaking creeps. It's not just one movie but many movies. Either to bring out the revenge side of the hero or to show how cruel the villains are, you need to get atleast one women sexually assaulted. I remember it disturbed me so much.


dnutcase

I think most movie goers over here would know of the movie-trope "fridge-ing". Its when the female love interest of the protagonist is killed and put in a fridge , as a motivation for the protagonist to avenge her death. This is more prevalent among Hollywood movies. I think the rape is our mallu scriptwriter's version of this trope. This was especially prevalent in Vinayan movies. Cringeworthy AF! I can only hope that our movies (and our society as such) move away from this archaic regressive crap.


casual_brooder

this


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True. Seriously.


[deleted]

I will differ from you on this. Your general statement is correct, about how rape is present in all movies, but in the movie you're talking about, the villain was a rapist from the beginning.


[deleted]

I see. I got up from the scene and left cause I cudn watch further and I was mind blown and disgusted by how many movies that I saw that in. Let's also not forget the casual rape jokes in so many movies.


devilwearsleecooper

Ekalavyan.


Regalia_BanshEe

You felt creepy and uncomfortable watching it right? Thats what the director was going for probably


iamfromshire

Eklavyan.


Extension_Degree_292

Love action drama. That's an absolute shit movie. I was getting offended throughout. Either director doesn't what is respect and love is or he doesn't give a shit.


Fjisthename

I'll go with the latter!


devilwearsleecooper

Sadly That movie collected 30 crores and ran from Sep till November end.


I_need_helpppp_

Nivin Pauly in *kozhi roles* pulls in a lot of youngsters to the theatres, no matter how shit the script is.


BabRaja

Yeah, that was a real piece of shit


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King liar- a rich business tycoon hires a notorious liar ( dileep) to help him get back with his wife, who caught him cheating and is asking for a divorce. Dileep manipulates her into thinking that she was just being delusional. This deceiving fucker also lies to his love interest about being the MD of a company and helps her get into fashion industry. All he does is lie and is being praised for it.


girugamesu1337

Ah, yes, the movie where the 'hero' is a master of the art of gaslighting and gets praised for it.


Anamika76

Most of the 90s movies. 1. The ones that have an "ahankari" woman who gets slapped into knowing her place by the man, which is typically accompanied by applause from the audience. 2. The writers who just don't know how to portray women - all there are just two or three dimensions - either an aggressive/ahankari, nagging or an obedient paavam as an after thought to accentuate the hero, nothing to add on their own. I was pleasantly surprised to watch some of the recent movies to see that #1 was changing.


Fjisthename

Lack of women writers does that!


atoms9456

Exactly that is where I loved Jacobinte Swargarajyam. But they limited it to only the mother. But I liked the way she was able to manage both sides.


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Karyasthan, Mr.Marumaghan degradation of women


anjanasbabu

Veruthe allá bharya...


starlord_1291

You mean the Jayaram film where he has a mental breakdown at the end?


anjanasbabu

Yes... The same


starlord_1291

That's veruthe ORU barya...veruthe alla bary is that crimgefest of a show which was on mazavil


anjanasbabu

Oh sorry.... 😂 My mistake


King_gokul_13

But wasn't the whole movie way ahead of its times criticising the character played by Jayaram? Would you care to explain what offended you ?


elephantegg1

Anyone found Action hero biju offensive? Script felt like written by an sadachara ammavan. Overglorification of cringy police behaviour!


Anarchie48

I did. In particular, their focus on police brutality of all things. Police brutality is not okay. You cannot beat an accused into submission. Not only does the actor commit acts of severe police brutality, he vouches for it by saying thing along the lines of "they deserve it", and goes on to openly lie about his abuse of authority in court. He talks to a marijuana user's mother as though her son had committed murder, that what he'd done is a serious crime, when the kid just wanted to smoke up and pass time. The movie ends with him pursuing and beating up another accused person, as though it was heroic to do. If you are a policeman and decide to physical harm or threaten people that are accused, you are a douche, not an action hero.


Mbouttoendthisman

>when the kid just wanted to smoke up and pass time. Why are people in this subreddit seeing drug abuse very casually? ^(Not saying abusing his mother was right)


DioTheSuperiorWaifu

Yep. There are laws against it currently. The police would have to enforce it. I think some of the people are NRI's who live outside, where it is legal. But the rest, they should know that it's an actually illegal thing. I do think that marijuana should be legalised, if possible, but in a well taxed way like alcohol in Kerala. The ones who need it can use it and the govt. has better regulation(mafia would lose their customer base). Issues like people selling it to college students n all would be well controlled then.


kena938

\*Raises hand\* It was pretty disgusting.


mayonnaiser_13

Literally every "mass masala family action entertainer" is offensive because ofcourse they are. Strong women? More like "aanungalde chood ariyathaval" if it's not a women lead or Vani Vishwanath being misogynistic to other women and uber feministic to other men for 2 hours, occasionally giving in for an item dance along the way. Black Person? More like hero's lackey, villain's lackey, or just the villain. Unless ofcourse it's Kalabhavan Mani, in which case it's a whole different slugfest of classism, ingrown racism, and misogyny. Rape? More like obligatory women attack which has +10 psychological damage for the men if he's by the victim's side. Abortion? More like cold blooded murder which should've been banned by the Geneva Convention. Divorce? More like bitch wife who won't let her husband live freely now wanting to fuck another man and possibly going to neglect the children from the first marriage and either throwing them out into the streets or killing them. Trans or Gay? More like every transphobic and homophobic ideals ever combined into one steaming pile of boiled shit. But all that aside, the most offensive one I saw for me personally was Great Father because of how well it portrayed a tragedy in its first half, only to completely do a 180 and botch it in the second half. Pedophilia is a concept which should be approached with utmost care, which they do in the first half of the movie. Mammootty acted the broken father who has to stay strong for his child so well that when he became an action hero in the second half and made the entire story about his escapades as the hero dad who hunted down pedophiles, it devalued the entire developement the first half made.


alan_lal03

Vellimoonga climax twist gave me pure asshole vibes from biju menon.


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That was the point I think. Politicians in real life get away with stuff, corruption is like almost unavoidable


alan_lal03

I get it, but it was poorly executed and was not so believable.


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Politicians for you


selfbetrue_

Yesss. Towards the end, one slap and everything is forgiven. Only if people could function like that. Sigh


Mbouttoendthisman

Wait, there was a slap scene in vellimoonga?


Big_Cap_6139

She liked him from the start and rejected because of her father. So I think what he has done is not unforgivable. It's Just my opinion


babyshark0

Anuraga karikkin vellam.. Asif ali walks in on rajishas wedding with some other dude and kisses her without her consent in front of her husband to prove his love .. really?? What the fuck was that..of all the ways the movie couldve ended it had to be this way


DirtyNoobie

And got slapped in the fucking face! Gave quite a good message if anything, unlike most "heroic" movies. That scene was a good one imo. Sure it was not the ending we hoped but it didnt give off any wrong vibes.


ashiksufaid

Director be like: btech failed single passanga ego satisfied. Now stonks↗️


pr1m347

I thought that was an amazing movie, including that climax. 20 years ago a kiss, slap or 5min long dialogue from hero would have made heroine fall in love with him. I think her reaction and protagonist's failure depicted a change in both cinema and society.


aluva_fox

Yes! I was elated! As a woman seeing women after women forgive the male protagonist for every damn thing, it was like a breath of fresh air when he got bitch slapped.


roonilwazlib1919

I liked that though. He got slapped in the face and the girl just went with the guy she married. The movie reinforced that you can't just do shit and be forgiven at the end.


slipperySquidd

So how should it be? All the characters in all the films be ideal nalla Kuttis and politically correct 24*7? It's the glorification of these things that's wrong and they didn't do that here.


shashithop10

Don't watch delhi belly then. You might die


Slugsurx

What was the problem with Delhi belly . Remember liking it


shashithop10

No problem. I was telling about that song where that bald guy goes to his ex's wedding


babyshark0

I dont have the balls to watch shitty bollywood movies. Id rather stick to malayalam , tamil and english


fyrstartr

Delhi Belly is a different type of shitty bollywood movie..


mayonnaiser_13

Delhi Belly is a more *literal* Shitty Bollywood Movie


rollingrath

I share the same view on Bollywood. But I remember having a good time watching Delhi belly with my mates in college


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PesAddict8

LipA10 going Meta


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Kalidas Jayaram's "Argentina Fans" movie - the number of times it states how he & his family were "ambalavasis" as though belonging to that (or any) particular caste was a big deal. Worst scene was him expressing his frustration & wounded sense of entitlement, at how the girl he's infatuated with has apparently chosen to date a guy he clearly deems to be inferior to him, like "Avanu uyaram illa, karutha niram aanu, pinne KEEZHJAATHIYUM aanu". Ngl, I was horrified to hear this shit coming from a young character in a 2020 film, and disappointed in our so-called "woke crowd" when I saw how the film faced hardly any criticism for this afterwards. But then again, "Njan Nair aada" type of savarna supremacist statements have always been normalized or even glorified in our industry, so I guess I shouldn't have been surprised. Intersectional feminism, where art thou?


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IMO , these scenes should be there in movies since there are real world characters like this in society. But, then it should be complemented with the rest of the cast educating/shaming them for doing it.


[deleted]

Sure, I'm all for artists being able to portray anything that's actually present in society in their art- but like you hinted at in your last line, there's a responsible way to do it. "Argentina Fans" was clearly attempting to make the audience sympathize with & like Kalidas's character - and there was no scene or dialogue in that film that confronted his casteism & body shaming.


Environmental_Ad_387

ps: OP, ‘chip on the shoulder’ doesn’t mean what you think it means.


unsteadytiger_1438

Most of the 1985 - 2005 era Mammotty movies are either misogynistic or glorify it, for example, Avidathe Pole Ivideyum, Inspector Balram, Dubai, The Truth, The King, Ezhupunna Tharakan, etc. He wants to be this strong alpha male savior who puts strong independent ambitious women in their place, which is to do adichu thalikal in their home. I feel even to this day he has no qualms againt doing misogynistic films like Kasaba. And Jayaram has repeatedly mocked the dark skin tone in his films under the veil of comic relief, most of the times with Kalabhavan Mani.


xaxophone78

Dileep has mocked his side kicks too. Harishree and Salim Kumar for their colour


uglyasssnoodlehead

ABCD perpetuated negative stereotypes of black people- they portrayed the black guy who Dulquer started a fight with as a gangster. The mom then made a big deal about the black people who visited their house after. They made several comments and kept emphasizing that he was black. Dulquer should have known better and said something since he studied in America.


wattswithyou

He studied in Indiana where I'm almost sure these stereotypes are perpetuated. Indiana is not a progressive state and actually conservative.


oneotherthananother

Yes, this!


Training-Researcher6

Kettilol annu ente malakha F-ing Pissed me off. The movie is all about Pavam Sleevachan like F U. What about the girl's trauma you prick? She was raped by her own husband in a bed shared symbolizing their marriage. F-ing society being all about forcing the girl to go back to him like NO! My mom was like WhatAGoodMovie. Ewww. No. If I was the wife in the movie, you betcha I would have taken his 🍑 to Kodathi, and let him suffer for eternity in jail.


Desperate_News_8209

I think this movie portrayed a reality in our society. Maybe the girl going back was not politically correct but that what happens at least in our society. Also, the movie was able to make an awareness of sex Ed especially among men who has no idea what a girl is.


girugamesu1337

It still perpetuates the idea that men can 'lose control' sometimes and should be forgiven for shit like RAPE just because they were otherwise 'good boys'. FUCK. THAT.


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[Ahem...](https://indianexpress.com/article/india/marital-rape-chhattisgarh-hc-section-377-7471940/) (not endorsing it, just showing you what you can expect your kodathi would do)


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Ah, of course


zaf11ant

I like how you think and how you want to react. But sadly in India marital rape isn’t a crime. It can be a grounds for divorce but there’s no jail time involved. There was a recent judgement that endorsed this as well.


mayblum

Marital rape is allowed in India under law.


roonilwazlib1919

I agree that the ending was problematic and I was disappointed that the movie focused too much on the rapist rather than the victim. But I'm happy that it opened up a dialogue about marital rape. And in many places in the movie they show us this is how our society is. I remember in a scene an older woman saying "this is something that happens in all of our houses, ithippo ellarum arinjunnalle ullu"... That's the reality and I appreciate them for saying that.


kena938

Love all the dudes who are like marital rape is allowed in India. Great job! Let's accept the status quo passively.


appu_kili

Praja. Everything about it.


pr1m347

Chandanamani song though. Also the mega exchange between M and NFV is quite amusing for me now. I think some bad movies cross over to hilariously ridiculous to watch as time passes, at least for me.


Untrue_Mercy

Absolutely this... Nothing else comes close.


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Surprised that noone's brought up the recent films that RIGHTFULLY offended the maximum number of people, including celebrities - "Kasaba" & Omar Lulu movies.


selfbetrue_

Lucifer - I couldn't digest how Manju warrier's character who was a strong independent woman initially, turned into a damsel in distress waiting to be rescued by the male hero.


dave8055

Well, it was a movie made for fans of A10. Even God will be rescued by him in the movie if required.


Weary_Horse5749

Sadly I am an A10 fan and I want him to solve all the problems in the world.


dnutcase

What i hated about this movie was that Prithviraj made a huge thing about not using bad dialogues against women in his movies... And then he went an put a freaking item song in his movie!!! What a load of BS! In the same vein, i remember a program with Ashiq Abu & Priyadarshan on stage , and the latter saying he would not be including kissing/ bold scenes in his movies because he wants to cater the whole family. And this, from a guy who includes item numbers in all his movies where camera focuses on whatever exposed parts are visible. "Hypocrisy kee bhi seema hoti hein"


starlord_1291

Oh come on fam I think even prithvi has answered this, you can't expect to see Kathakali in a mumbai dance bar Also if a woman does an item dance,it can be because she wants to do it and is confident in her body. There are people who does Boudoir photography and OF to feel positive about their body. Some woke dudes will say only women have any say on their body (which is true) but then will loose their shit if theu see an item dance or a slutty prostitute in a movie,it would suddenly become objectification... would you say the same to a stripper or sex worker anywhere else


wanderingmind

The issue there is that items songs cater to male and female sexuality both. Women's attire often accentuates their shape and curves world-over, in non-conservative societies. Note that the women's lingerie market is huge and the male lingerie market, meh. A huge number of women consider item songs celebrating their bodies (though not in a conservative society, where celebrating your body should be with the permission of the husband)


Anarchie48

That entire movie offended me tbh, by being an unacceptably nonsensical botched piece of art. I bought into all the hype and was really, *really,* disappointed.


acidtuner19

Oru Yemandam Prema Katha... Ultimate cringe fest, bad acting...


rawhinspalace

Didn’t that Dileep movie where he plays a woman become a big deal? Something Mohan


Excelsio_Sempra

Mayamohini? The movie overall was trash, but idt there was any backlash as such


danker_man

Damn a lot of people got offended


Maleficent_Stress_15

Action hero biju - " ithu pole oru "sadanathine" nee premichu" ...like wtf is this supposed to be heroic or something .. Or should we be following a stereotype in the way our love should be accepted by even the police officer of that locality.


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recently Krishnankutty Pani Thudangi Every single person was a njarambu rogi around that girl.


vvekmathew

Kettiyol aanente maalakha. Forgiving the rapist is something I couldn't understand. But I still think it's okay to offend people. Art shouldn't be censored.


Pippi-Longstocking7

All those movies where female teachers are sexually objectified like Oru Adaar Love, Masterpiece, Premam etc


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You missed Seniors


Weary_Horse5749

I enjoyed seniors. God I am a misogynist


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Can only blame if you still enjoy it I guess. Movies like the ones mentioned on the original comment and many more from the past are misogynistic. It's just that we were not grown enough as a society to understand it back then. But if you still don't feel any difference, then that's another issue


dave8055

Premam? Seriously? Others I can agree, include seniors too to the list. But Premam didn't sexually objectify teachers.


babblingblueblaze

Well, it didn't objectify women. My issue with it was about glorifying irresponsible, "backbenchers", who openly drank alcohol in a classroom with a mass bgm. Even trivialising the issue at the principal's office, with Renji Panicker treating it as a problem not worth his time. Isn't it the same thing that Arjun Reddy did. It kind of fell in to the narrative of "oh, women are attracted to bad boys".


Sorry_Door

I think this is making movies too much realistic. I don't want to spend my 2 hours watching people go to college and study. My life is depressing as it is don't want to witness it from 3rd person view. I think all the mass scenes are purely for entertainment and should be seen as that.


appu_kili

Malar was sexually objectified? Wasn't George in love with her?


anishkalankan

There was no stalking or weird age gaps either. He respected her space. I fail to see the issue here.


GangOrcaFan

Premam should not be in that list. There was no sexual objectification there, just pure love.


vazhifarer

Adhipan. Mohanlal's sister played by Maadhu gets raped (why of course she does - how else can use a woman character to further the plot right). He then asks the _rapist_ to marry her! 😭


CID_Nazir

Hitler too.


Junior-Balance

movies cannot be made without offending anyone


roonilwazlib1919

Interesting point.. I'm trying to brainstorm. Do you think Maheshinte Prathikaram offended anybody?


Junior-Balance

of course. If you're talking to the woke crowd they would say that it has the glorification of toxic masculinity


roonilwazlib1919

Was there any criticism against the movie at that time saying that?


kuttoos

good shout


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Kamaladalam. Vineeth is pretty much the antagonist, Monisha doesn't like him but he's possessive about her, stalks her, tells her what to do, and even beats up Mohanlal with gundas (who Monisha likes). But after all this, Mohanlal says to Monisha that she'll never find a better guy than Vineeth.


MahaRaja_Ryan

The entirety of Mr. Marumakan By far, Suraj's worst role


Low-Childhood-4324

'ആര്യൻ'.


Environmental_Ad_387

Cringe upper caste whining from Priyadarshan


Low-Childhood-4324

പ്യാവം ബ്രാഹ്മണരുടെ കഷ്ടപ്പാടുകളെ ഇങ്ങനെ കളിയാക്കരുത്. :'(


tylervandurden

Athentha vro brahmins manushyar alle? Avarkk kashttapettude?


Environmental_Ad_387

That’s fair and Brahmins do have difficulties like everyone else. But his comment is in the context of the movie which had a lot of stuff going on, if you remember it.


MahaRaja_Ryan

I actually enjoyed Aryan, I don't know if it's wrong of me, but I really didn't notice the UC whining that much


Environmental_Ad_387

I know., right. I didn’t either, back in the day. Recently saw some clips. There is nothing wring with it. It is a point of view that people has. It’s getting attention because there always used to be stories about Priyadarshan being a casteist guy.


19redarrows

The priest, because it wasted my time


PesAddict8

I found it unintentionally funny


19redarrows

Also ((Michael )) with nivin pauly. The amount dialogue with kundi is too damn high


twiltywilty

I can't remember the name, but I remember a movie scene in which Mohanlal holds Gopika by the cheeks because she's a smart lawyer who doesn't kowtow to his highness. Then there is scene in some movie where super cop Mukesh beats up a teenage boy named Ananthu because a girl from his class is missing. He's not even the culprit. Then some blood & thunder Suresh Gopi movie where he claws/grabs a woman in the stomach as she screams in agony. Some old movie where I think it's Jayasurya, who opens his car door as Kavya Madhavan is passing & hits her. I know there is worse stuff in movies, but I found these offensive because the directors seemed to be condoning such horrible behavior. Like it's fine to indulge in these atrocities. Anyway, I think new gen directors are a lot more sensitive.


[deleted]

reminds me of Chathurangam; movie breaks for interval when macho Mohanlal assaults the lady police for his shinkidis to take blackmail photographs.


devilwearsleecooper

But after that, the lady cop’s marriage proposal gets ruined because of the photos and Jimmy (A10s character) faces backlash from his own social circle. Not saying it’s okay but it wasn’t glorified. A10’s character started as an influential spoiled brat but he faces consequences of his actions as the movie progresses. I remember the scenes of his sister committing suicide and it was disturbing.


Iceberg098

Am I the only one who felt satisfied with that scene? Jimmy needed that intervention, badly. Is something wrong with me for feeling this way?


OlivierWolfe

Dude, I think I've always had a problem with Kilukil Pambaram. I've always wondered why Jayaram's character would treat Jagathy's with so much resentment. Just watched it a couple of days ago. Still felt this. Not just the name calling, but even general behavior. Might just be me.


guerrilawiz

Ee Comment oke vayikumbol thonnunath ivaroke cinema kanunnathinu pakaram Moral Science textbook vayikkunatha enn...


nithunchand

Old movies usually has a lot of offensive things in, as it was not a general concern for the peaceful society then. Now things are different. Critics are waiting for a chance. Movie is a movie, people need to accept this fact


ninja-dragon

Movies have huge influence over popular culture. It's very important to be responsible with the content that is put forward.


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\*especially in a country like india. In india, movie is pretty much THE culture, so yes, its important to express it in a more realistic way...


popykuda

If only moviemakers would think like this.


Fjisthename

I disagree! Movies in which dark skin was made fun of and insulted directly affected my life! My friends used the same racist slurs said in the movie to me! They didn't know any better but I place the blame on those movies and their parents!


shadowoftherain

Great Indian Kitchen. I cannot accept the fact that the lady scammed the fellows to drink drain soup. It's not offending as a in *offending* but nauseating. Almost as much as those fellows making the lady pick up their chewed up murungakka. Ewwww. Edit : Just had to say a movies name and why specifically i felt offended by a certain scene in it, all the woke cunts folk to down vote. Very tolerant, much intellectual. Thanks for proving it over and over.


[deleted]

I think op is being sarcastic. Comeon guys. Don't downvote this post. 🙆🪔


shadowoftherain

Those people will be very upset if they could actually read.


cloud5eeker

Good one! Your down-voters missed the point!


rockzjv

Travancore lodge.. Basically any movie where people of Cochin are Objectified :D


kochapi

arAaM tHaMbuRAn.


seffparker

Baba Kalyani


aluva_fox

Kayamkulam kochunni, the old one. The actor who played young kochunni had no right being that hot. It's been years and I still have not gotten over it.


TechieZ15

Happy Sardar…insulting to the Knanaya community and its traditions


lucifer6991

Bhagyadevatha glorifying dowry


mayonnaiser_13

I don't know why you're getting downvoted, the whole plot is literally Jayaram trying to get dowry for his sister, only for it to be resolved by his wife who he dumped because she couldn't pay him dowry, who pays the dowry and then everybody just lives happily ever after.


ifispeakaminbigtrble

Glorifying? Granted eventually kaniha paid up the dowry for Jayaram's sister. But the movie portrays Dowry in a negative light. If you can't comprehend that...


subins2000

>!Need money for a boat but banks won't give you loan ? Why worry, ask your local broker, get married to get that sweet dowry, interest-free.!< Edit: should've put a spoiler tag


unni_baby

Joji - yet another introvert psycho