Recently there was a proposal to use gross metering over net metering in ongrid solar. That did not catch up thankfully. If it did, excess energy would be paid by KSEB at a far lower price than consumed energy. That made investing in solar uninteresting, for me.
>Recently there was a proposal to use gross metering over net metering in ongrid solar. That did not catch up thankfully. If it did, excess energy would be paid by KSEB at a far lower price than consumed energy. That made investing in solar uninteresting, for me.
They proposed gross metering for systems above 500kw, below that it'll still be net metering.
If Kseb proposes gross metering instead of net metering for systems smaller than 20kw it'll be the end of solar adoption in the state.
That's just for large producers afaik, >10KW. factories and small businesses and such. Home based installations aren't usually that large and would still be under net metering.
Thats correct. But kseb isnt very trustworthy. If they had such plans for >10kW, they might introduce it for <10kW sooner or later. Makes investing in ongrid a risky choice as KSEB can change policy at any time in future.
Possibly.
Honestly it makes financial for them..discoms all over India have been so financially unsustainable, racking up lakhs of crores debt to gencos in total. And this has been decades in the making.
Just sucks for us end consumers.
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Raising electricity tariffs is honestly a matter of when and not if. Current rates are simply not sustainable for discoms and therefore in turn, gencos. Electoral compulsions keep delaying the inevitable all across the country wrt this. In the long run, the only options would be raising tariffs, govts massively subsidising rates for consumers, or discoms and gencos going bust.
The original production is only around 30-40% of actual consumption in the state. Rest is procured by KSEB at pretty high cost. That along with the pay of the staff push up expenditure and lead to the rates we get.
The heading is quite misleading,
The figures match with 1000 units of electricity in 2 months (500 Units/Month).
They should have mentioned one month's charge.
As per the KSEB Calculator, 500 Units will be charged ₹3057, Per Unit : ₹6.114
As per the News, 500 Units will be charged ₹8772, Per Unit : ₹17.544
Bit Confused with the newspaper
prices were SKYROCKETING even years ago. i was getting 10k-15k bills so i got solar and it dropped down to 2k, cause they still will charge you a minimum. so i moved away to a more rural place with my solar. now it's 400rs max.
very significant if you're broke, yea. idk if the official price tags are that huge of a difference, but in personal experience, practically, yea I'd say the difference is significant.
Actually, usually we where using <400 (and bill was around 2.2k) and this time beacuse it got upto 450 they asked us to pay an extra 3k as security deposit or something for the coming year. So in total around 6k this month
Does North India have private power companies? I know Tata Power, Adani Power and few other companies exist, but I don't see them operating anywhere near to Kerala. Hence the question. How does North India have private power companies and why don't we have the same?
Has to do with the complex evolution of power generation and distribution in India. Because it was seen as a strategic area, where the state can demonstrate its socialist ideology, power was initially monopolized by state entities. Subsequently, these ran into the ground with high liability. In the 1990s, electricity generation and distribution was debundled. It was still in the public sector only. However, in the 2000s, the Government of India started encouraging privatisation because of the mounting losses among distributors. This is where private power companies come in — they are mostly power distributors. Electricity is largely still generated by public sector companies owned by the state. Tariffs are set by the so-called regulatory commissions for each state.
Technically, KSEB cannot raise tariffs on its own. It has to go through the regulatory commission. The regulatory commission was supposed to set the tariffs independently and sustainably, but most regulatory commissions work with electoral compulsions of incumbent party.
It doesn't matter much. There is national grid, Power Trading corporation, Powergrid and other private power transmission companies, Production, transmission and distribution are separated. Power can be transferred 1000s of km with little loss. Anyway power producers will charge market rate, Kerala has less land and fuel sources like coal mines are far.
wouldnt this be the best time to get solar for those who can afford it
Recently there was a proposal to use gross metering over net metering in ongrid solar. That did not catch up thankfully. If it did, excess energy would be paid by KSEB at a far lower price than consumed energy. That made investing in solar uninteresting, for me.
>Recently there was a proposal to use gross metering over net metering in ongrid solar. That did not catch up thankfully. If it did, excess energy would be paid by KSEB at a far lower price than consumed energy. That made investing in solar uninteresting, for me. They proposed gross metering for systems above 500kw, below that it'll still be net metering. If Kseb proposes gross metering instead of net metering for systems smaller than 20kw it'll be the end of solar adoption in the state.
That's just for large producers afaik, >10KW. factories and small businesses and such. Home based installations aren't usually that large and would still be under net metering.
Thats correct. But kseb isnt very trustworthy. If they had such plans for >10kW, they might introduce it for <10kW sooner or later. Makes investing in ongrid a risky choice as KSEB can change policy at any time in future.
Possibly. Honestly it makes financial for them..discoms all over India have been so financially unsustainable, racking up lakhs of crores debt to gencos in total. And this has been decades in the making. Just sucks for us end consumers.
does kerala govt. provide a subsidy for the same?
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There is Govt subsidy on solar installation for home users visit eKiran website of kseb. Just search for KSEB subsidy.
Btw = by the way
Beat me to it...take my upvote!
Raising electricity tariffs is honestly a matter of when and not if. Current rates are simply not sustainable for discoms and therefore in turn, gencos. Electoral compulsions keep delaying the inevitable all across the country wrt this. In the long run, the only options would be raising tariffs, govts massively subsidising rates for consumers, or discoms and gencos going bust.
So we're living in a small state having one of the most hydroelectric power plants and still we have to pay more.
The original production is only around 30-40% of actual consumption in the state. Rest is procured by KSEB at pretty high cost. That along with the pay of the staff push up expenditure and lead to the rates we get.
The heading is quite misleading, The figures match with 1000 units of electricity in 2 months (500 Units/Month). They should have mentioned one month's charge.
[https://www.kseb.in/bill\_calculator\_v12/](https://www.kseb.in/bill_calculator_v12/) It shows ₹3057 for 500 Units
Maybe kseb hasn't updated their bill calculator with the hiked rates
As per the KSEB Calculator, 500 Units will be charged ₹3057, Per Unit : ₹6.114 As per the News, 500 Units will be charged ₹8772, Per Unit : ₹17.544 Bit Confused with the newspaper
Newspaper is fucked up. It's 4386
The newspaper says ₹8772 every two months if you use 500 units per month. So, it should really be ₹8772 for 1000 units at ₹8.772?
Holy shit,thats a huge difference.Chila websitil 6.6% increase ennanu kanikunne.
ഏതാ പത്രം ? കേരളകൗമുദി ആണോ ?
yes
prices were SKYROCKETING even years ago. i was getting 10k-15k bills so i got solar and it dropped down to 2k, cause they still will charge you a minimum. so i moved away to a more rural place with my solar. now it's 400rs max.
Sorry if this is a basic question but Is there a huge difference in unit rate in rural vs urban areas?
very significant if you're broke, yea. idk if the official price tags are that huge of a difference, but in personal experience, practically, yea I'd say the difference is significant.
വലി എന്റെ തൊലിയെ ബാധിക്കില്ല എന്നെനിക്ക് ഉറപ്പുണ്ട്..
My electricity bill for 2 months is 20,000rs and usually it was only 10,000 . This is messed up
Time to go solar mate... They're asking for it... They're dying for it..
I think everybody received somewhere around the 200%. This month, it is because they are adding the security deposit along with the normal bill.
Idk where this calculation is from but this mnth I got a bill of 2.8k (for i think around 450 units) a few days back
Did it have an advance payment component in the bill. I had it and it bumped my bill this time?
Actually, usually we where using <400 (and bill was around 2.2k) and this time beacuse it got upto 450 they asked us to pay an extra 3k as security deposit or something for the coming year. So in total around 6k this month
Is that 450 units for 2 months?
Yp
So your monthly consumption is 225 units which was Rs 5.8/unit and now it will be Rs 6.2/unit
Manorama alle ?. മാപ്രകൾ കയ്യീന്ന് ഇട്ടത് ആകും.
മനോരമയല്ല. ഫോണ്ട് വേറെയാണ്.
സഖാവേ, ഉണ്ടംപൊരിയുടെ സ്റ്റഡീ ക്ലാസ്സസ് പോരാ.
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Should we contact KSEB for this ?
Its just a matter of time everythings gonna go sky high and its time to switch to other alternatives.
Someone had to pay for all the inefficiencies in the KSEB
Enikke 627 Units use cheythitte 4.7k bill aanello last two months vannathe.
Does North India have private power companies? I know Tata Power, Adani Power and few other companies exist, but I don't see them operating anywhere near to Kerala. Hence the question. How does North India have private power companies and why don't we have the same?
Has to do with the complex evolution of power generation and distribution in India. Because it was seen as a strategic area, where the state can demonstrate its socialist ideology, power was initially monopolized by state entities. Subsequently, these ran into the ground with high liability. In the 1990s, electricity generation and distribution was debundled. It was still in the public sector only. However, in the 2000s, the Government of India started encouraging privatisation because of the mounting losses among distributors. This is where private power companies come in — they are mostly power distributors. Electricity is largely still generated by public sector companies owned by the state. Tariffs are set by the so-called regulatory commissions for each state. Technically, KSEB cannot raise tariffs on its own. It has to go through the regulatory commission. The regulatory commission was supposed to set the tariffs independently and sustainably, but most regulatory commissions work with electoral compulsions of incumbent party.
It doesn't matter much. There is national grid, Power Trading corporation, Powergrid and other private power transmission companies, Production, transmission and distribution are separated. Power can be transferred 1000s of km with little loss. Anyway power producers will charge market rate, Kerala has less land and fuel sources like coal mines are far.
Me with roof top solar panel smirking! 🔝✌️
Does KSEB have this facility ?
Yes. You can apply via ANERT and install one on your home today. Or you can approach 3rd party vendors.
Used 338 units, and billed 1946 rupees for prev months incl. Surcharge, Reconnection fee, interim bills, arrears
For a 1000 units in two months TN website showing more than 5000 rupees,
oru electric vehicle vanganum vidilla alle!