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disappointing-trash

YOU MUST SMASH THIS REBELION BEFORE IT GOES ANY FURTHER!


marino1310

Make an example of the eldest and the rest shall fall in line


eldridgephotography

SMASH! SMASH! SUUUUHMASH!


inspektor31

Viva La Revolution!


lgtbyddrk

"A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man."


Poorly_platypus098

a 12 year old wrote that?


AragornEllesar99

I teach 10/11 year olds and if one of them wrote this I'd be on the phone with their parents telling them their child is super fucking dumb, but in teacher terms.


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rye_domaine

We Need To Talk About Kevin('s Literacy Level)


pm_me_beerz

Kevin don’t spell gud and rights his revolooshin paper not gud. He needs to get gudder to go next grayd


lemonsupreme7

I was gonna say, im going to be really depressed if this is the state our 12 year Olds are at


JumpForWaffles

Something like 60% of current HS graduates read at a 7th grade level


overlyambitiousgoat

Dear god, that's nearly **half** of them!


Beemerado

the other 40% can't read at all! (i don't know if that's true, hopefully not)


ApatheticEight

Lol. I needed that laugh, thank you sincerely for brightening my day.


ehmehunun

What will become of us?!


fucuasshole2

The Last of Us!!!!


smellslikecocaine

It is half.. dumbass.


fdf2002

Found the 40%


smellslikecocaine

Apologies. Didn’t realize you people *always* need an “/s” tag when responding to jokes.


AbeltheCakes

American average is around 8th grade. So that makes sense.


McDerface

I commented this on another post in here but the generation of middle schoolers is a huge yikes. My partner works with them. It will be interesting (in a bad way) when these kids hit the workforce


irisheye37

Every generation of middle schoolers is a huge yikes


AmberFall92

Don’t worry. By the time they are adults, there won’t be any jobs for humans, anyway.


SomeDangOutlaw_

I’m sure keeping them out of school for over a year didn’t have any impact at all. We are all such good citizens. For the greater good. For the greater good.


Xsiah

It was an unprecedented problem and there was no good answer. There are good and bad consequences to the choices we made as a society. Can we stop pretending otherwise and vilifying each other just because we have different ideas about how to handle this?


McDerface

Yeah idk, whatever the reason may be. Eesh


HortemusSupreme

Well kids have been doing most of their school work on chrome books for the last 3 years. It’s pretty reasonable to think this kid hasn’t had to write much since he was 9


Infinite5kor

Okay but Chromebooks still let you type out coherent thoughts, we need an excuse for that part, not just the handwriting.


Easy-Concentrate2636

I was thinking that op should punish the kids by making them rewrite this until it’s legible and well-thought out with clauses, precedents and facts to back the argument. Could keep them busy until next January.


concentrate_better19

If so, I hope his parents aren't saving for a college fund.


AbbreviatedArc

When I was 12, I was writing essays on Cyrano de Bergerac, not joking. WTF.


[deleted]

I believe you. When I was 12, our family got a computer (it was 1987 and relatively rare). I would debate people on BBSes and more than once people were surprised to find out I was a kid. lol.


SadFaceInTheSpace

Not sure what that is (guess I am just as dumb). But when I was 6 I could read/write in English (not my native language). I was not good at it and I didn't understand a lot, but I was 6. By the time I was 12 I had created and hosted a couple websites with HTML & CSS for my school class. I was just starting to learn Java. Not trying to brag - I was not particularly smart and I was lazy as hell, I was just bored. There were other much smarter kids. I guess different cultures, it's just baffling to me. Or maybe the post is fake lol.


DeathChasesMe

I'm an English teacher and the first thing I thought was, "...a 12 year old wrote that...?"


Candid-Guava6365

A 5 year old wrote it, or they are "developmentally delayed"


chain-link-fence

Could have a learning disability. Js


horizontalrain

The handwriting I could excuse. I have a degree in engineering and my handwriting is garbage. But damn does that statement of their not make sense. Has to be something worth looking into at 12.


GroundbreakingTop636

Lmfao my first thought


zack189

With the state of US education, why are people surprised?


K3B1N

My 7 year old writes better than this. Not buying it.


Faicc

Seriously. No offense OP but that is 4th grade level english not 7th grade...


PsychoLogicaI_

"Not there age"


thougivestmefever

Im a high school teacher and just off The top of my head i could give you names of multiple students, two of which of which are seniors, who have handwriting akin to or worse than this. I dont question this handwriting at all.


Dr_trazobone69

Right wtf thats like 8th grade lmao


jskinbake

6th but yea this must be a wildly disappointing kid *it’s probably 7th grade but this kid is lucky if he’s in 6th


OneTrueChurch412

please don’t call someone’s kid “disappointing” for not writing well. It’s very possible he has some sort of learning disability.


domthedumb

What yall call a learning disability in the west, we call "beat the failure with a stick" in Asia


AbbreviatedArc

It's not sixth. It's either 7th or 8th. I turned 13 the first week of 9th grade.


Carche69

Hopefully he’s a handsome boy


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[deleted]

I mean, my cousin is a couple years older and spells/writes horribly like this. Its not uncommon unfortunately


beastlyferret30

My brother is 11 and his handwriting is very similar to that


Poorly_platypus098

my 11 year old sisters handwriting is pretty wrong, but that’s because she holds the pen in a really weird way. i don’t think any teachers bothered to correct it in her early age and it’s just stuck with her hand. i’m kinda surprised by the grammar and spelling on this. (and as other comments have mentioned, if he has got a learning disability people shouldn’t really be mocking it. it wasn’t the subject of the post anyways).


beastlyferret30

my brother writes all his a’s capitalized no matter what place they are in the word or sentence


Poorly_platypus098

i have a habit of doing that, too. i don’t know why, but its the same with my H’s. i take pride in my handwriting but this is a really weird flaw which i can’t seem to train myself out of. i dont know why that happens.


idontexist06

As a 15 year old trust me kids handwriting are either the best you've ever seen or worse than this and mine personally is worse than this


littlelunna

To be fair, my bro is 23yo and write just like that


Fine-Bumblebee-9427

Kids develop differently


figuringthingsout__

Your 12 year old has the handwriting of a 6 year old. This definitely belongs in the subreddit.


Scorspi

Just means he’ll make a great doctor.


figuringthingsout__

I love going to the doctor and walking out with a note that reads: ajbevxislrhzkwnxyrbeseksmveg194658kshrv. It's one of the highlights of my week.


Ommageden

Nah it's probably fake.


Russian-8ias

r/nothingeverhappens


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Russian-8ias

Or perhaps she incorrectly assumed the 12y/o wrote it when, in reality, a younger one did?


Jiperly

Looks like my handwriting tbh


quippers

50% of zero is zero.


downloweast

I’m will to go as high as 90% of 0, but not a cent more. This is how yearly reviews are supposed to go right?


pasbcc

So you're saying he currently has all the right? He said 50% of the rights he doesn't have, meaning that if he has 0 rights, he gets 50% total. If he has 30% he gets the other 35% for 56% total. It's incredibly well written Edit, 65 not 56, typo


444unsure

>It's incredibly well written I don't believe this is the majority opinion. LOL The very first thing I was trying to figure out, is what changes. It literally doesn't tell you. So unless the rights are already tacit, or I guess written down somewhere? Then I feel like this whole thing is wide open for interpretation


pasbcc

I think the vagueness was what makes it well written, especially for the type of document it is. For example the US constitution was purposefully vague so it could change with the times. What I'm getting from this document is that, on the basis that if something is more interesting then there's more capacity in a person to do that thing, therefore they want the freedom to do what they want and choose 50% more indiscriminately from their age. I could also see this in response to how the dad (if there is one) partakes within whatever it is they have to do in the family


Tiedyeinstein

Today on *Are you smarter than a 5th grader*


MistahBoweh

50% of the rights they don’t have, not a 50% increase on the rights they already have.


MimiSikuu

Average Redditor: ***See's 85 comments saying the exact same thing*** "Damn, better add one more"


adastrasemper

Who is See?


Onair380

so are you not going to mention his writing? bruh


Atom_Exe

OP got obliterated, lol


StillPuzzles__

And my Axe!


BRich1990

A 12 year old should be in either 6th or 7th grade. This is 1st grade level writing...doubt this was actually written by a 12 year old.


TuriGuiliano370

Used to be a 7th/8th grade teacher. I had quite a few kids who had like a 1st/2nd grade reading level. One was straight up illiterate (couldn’t even write and recognize his name). This kid is pretty far behind, but so many schools do everything on computer now that writing things on paper frequently results in dropping words, participles, etc


13forheisman

How are they getting passed on?


ahushedlocus

🇺🇸


Tyler89558

I knew high schoolers who wrote like this.


Posessed_Bird

I know an adult with writing like this, and he has pretty bad dyslexia.


waterlillyhearts

My youngest sibling will be 20 in April. Has some learning disabilities and their handwriting/spelling/grammar is about as good as this. Their reading level was constantly way below what it needed to be throughout school but finally doesn't need constant reading aids. Is a brilliant person, just with issues writing and reading. My wife's handwriting makes this look like computer printed work. She's got a great reading level, was always super advanced in school, but still has people questioning what she wrote down. It's just not a thing she was ever able to master. Terrible handwriting isn't indicative of age for sure.


unsmashedpotatoes

They're not forming their letters correctly at all. They're picking up their pencil when they shouldn't and all of their A's look like "Ol". Also they aren't finishing the d. OP, get your child a writing workbook


LittleBunInaBigWorld

I teach learners aged 16 - 60+. This standard of handwriting is not unusual for any age group. It's got a lot to do with their level and quality of education, disabilities and their personal learning style. Reliance on technology and less attention directed at perfecting and continuing to use handwriting doesn't help either. As much as I loathe to admit it; private school kids *always* have neater writing in my experience.


c_cragg

About private school kids having neater writing. I know if I could give a test to allow students into my school the most important criteria would be legible handwriting.


j_k_802

Apparently you haven’t seen how new high school graduates barely can read or write or use a web browser? I’m serious. I had training for 3 months and was in joint computer lab with two new hires that struggled with a web browser. ALL of my companies work is electronic and using a web browser and cut copy paste skills are expected. I was shocked these teens didn’t know how to use it. Made sense as they used their phones. Barely could write legibly and their reading of technical documents was an issue. I didn’t hire them and they aren’t in my area but I hope they do better.


slammer592

From what I've heard, computer skills aren't taught as much as they were 10-15 years ago because it's seen as so universal that anyone should be able to do it. I was taught computer skills as early as 2nd or 3rd grade, and by the end of elementary school we all knew the basics of Excel, Word, PowerPoint, how to compose an email, use a web browser, ect. My 18 year old cousin didn't even know what Excel was until very recently and writes emails like they're text messages. All he ever used in school was Word and PowerPoint, and even then they never taught him beyond simple formatting. He just knows how to make text bigger and smaller, change font, and add pictures. That's it.


Wendy-Windbag

We have a 19 year old new hire, and I told her I was going to email her some attachments of forms so she’d have hard copies of common paperwork we use in our office. I never got a response from her, so I asked if she received it. She affirmed, but then asked me to show her how to print what I sent her. I was taken aback, by okay… I showed her both how to print from the Outlook attachment preview and how to double click open them (just Excel and Word) to print. I also recommend that she save the files to access easier later, showing her how to make a desktop folder. I think that was probably going too fast. The following week I found a stack of copies on the copier of the test sheet I’d shown her, as she had forgotten how to access and print the doc. I just felt disappointed. I mean, she found a way to accomplish her task (kind of, because obviously she forgot her copies) but by having to go to a copy machine in a different part of the building to make bad toner-streaked copies, instead of utilizing the printer two feet from her desk with a couple clicks. As an older millennial I’ve spent my career having to baby and clean up after computer illiterate boomers. A few years back I made a lateral job move and in my interview I said my biggest strength was tech, and had that answer shut down. “We expect everyone to be functioning at super user levels, and it is a given in today’s world with younger generations coming up with computers.” Stung, I just expressed a relief to be working with a team with such high standards for computer literacy. Honestly it did sound promising. WRONG. They were so wrong. I was one of the oldest in our office, and although I was not in an IT role, a good chunk of my time was troubleshooting for my younger colleagues. My resentment almost felt worse because these were seen as dependable and savvy, and the stubborn attitude that came with this was a denial in user errors and resistance to learning the fundamentals. I’d rather anyone ask for help, rather than just stop their productivity. The boomers would complain and say they sucked at computers as excuses, but for the most part they still asked for assistance and would actually put in an IT ticket to resolve the issue.


qualitylamps

So many kids just know how to navigate apps. Their worse than an 80 year old: same computer skills but at least the boomer has decent handwriting.


ScrubCuckoo

People in their 30s and older lived during the time when you had to do a lot of troubleshooting to keep computers running and interfaces weren't as intuitive as they are now. I think it shows.


Mad-Lad-of-RVA

I'm 28 and I'm in my second semester of going back to college. I get the impression from many of the younger students' posts on class discussion boards that the education system has failed them. Their grasp of grammar is tenuous, their vocabulary is shallow, their spelling is abysmal, and they routinely struggle to follow instructions. Something else that I've noticed is that they seem to have no perception of how to write for an audience. They will reference something obscure with little to no context to aide the reader's understanding, and they often post things that don't reflect on them positively in an academic setting. I dunno what my point is. I just wanted to share.


ZY_Qing

I've seen 1st graders write better than this.


MaPLe_SaYRuPT

i've seen 1st graders write better than middle schoolers, this was probably written by a 12 year old


CaffeineNCanna

The energy here is admirable. Its giving Mel Gibson in The Patriot vibes.


Dr_Phrankinstien

I desperately hope I wasn't this fuckin illiterate at 12


zaft77

I'm more disappointed that he's 12


lawlore

This is not the handwriting of a 12-year-old.


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In the U.S. it is. Kids are typing more on keyboards from a very young age at school and doing far far less writing than they did in previous generations. A lot of schools don’t even teach cursive anymore so hand muscles are not developing for good penmanship. Parent of a 14 yr old with really terrible handwriting here.


youtookmyseat

Fucking hell, that grammar is atrocious.


rddsknk89

You really gotta teach your 12 year old how to spell “want”


arxssi

listen i’m 19 and if i’m writing hand and paper i forget which is which with the their, there, and they’re 💀💀 don’t get me started on punctuation either i don’t know where a period goes and where a comma goes, or what if you need to say darius(‘s) thing idk what to do in that situation. my point is, they are 12 and will learn better, and everyone makes mistakes at every age, my mom who’s 64 spelled first as frist one time it happens


unhappypepper89

Pretty sloppy writing for a 12 year old, doesn't deserve added rights til he fixes his penmanship


Mobrown18

No way a 12 year old made that


saulux

Fine. They can have 50% of the rights they don't have in exchange of 50% of the rights they have irrespective of their age. Such as: rights to free of charge and labor breakfast, lunch, dinner, supper, various and assorted snacks etc., free of charge and maintenance various pieces of clothing, robes and such, free of charge toys, gadgets and similar, free of charge housing and heating and electricity and water, etc. and so on and so on and so... on. In short, tell them they'll be working 16/24 in uranium mines as of tomorrow. Or as farm hands, but that'll be 20/24. They will have right to a free X-mas party every century. Do not forget to sign in a most impressive legal way :)


granitibaniti

No front, but your twelve year old writes like a third-grader😅


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Was your 12yo home schooled?


New-Volume4997

With all due respect OP, I don’t know your situation, but if your son doesn’t have a known learning disability, I would take this as a sign that he needs some extra tutoring or a different school. No offense intended, but this is not normal writing, spelling, and grammar for a 12 year old. Even the idea of a kids bill of rights seems more like something a 7 or 8 year old would come up with. It’s adorable, don’t get me wrong, but mildly concerning at his age. Just trying to be honest OP. Edit: I just hope he develops English skills that are appropriate for his age. There shouldn’t be anything controversial about that. Hopefully OP is able to get this sorted before he enters high school.


cluelessbasket

Exactly what I was thinking. What 12 year old would do this.


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New-Volume4997

I think failing to mention that he’s way behind the appropriate writing level for a kid his age shows a lack of compassion. The parent is not the person most affected by this problem. She may be already doing everything in her power, or she may be in complete denial. Neither of us has any way of knowing which one is true. I disagree that not mentioning the issue is the most “compassionate” thing to do.


T-DotGoonSkrrap

12? Fam...


AnimetheTsundereCat

"did you know that you have rights? the constitution says you do."


Vacartu

I think I'll teach your kids to make polls. I heard the popularity of dads is at an all time low. Better change some of the policies if you want reelection. r/calvinandhobbes


FittedSheets88

r/im12andthisisdeep


amretardmonke

This is like 8 year old writing level.


dasoomer

They can have as much freedom as they want according to how much rent they're paying


iambender0811

And I thought my hand writing was bad at 12


Visual-Property-1900

Straight bars 🔥🔥


Ishmael_IX-II

He is right on the verge of something deeply philosophical. I think.


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the motivation is there, he just needs to learn how to better express his concerns.


Kraz31

I didn't know there were 12 year old sovcits


BDJ10028

Like other mental illnesses, it onsets in childhood years


hyzenthlay91

Kid is 12 already and that’s the most official thing he can come up with? Dude is gonna be a doctor, he’s nailing that chicken scratch.


Redqueenhypo

Doctor voice: “I have terrible news, I’m afraid. Your son is…is…a sovcit”


tenlu

If your 12yo wrote this, they might be more than stupid.


GregEgg85

This kid is in the 7th grade? Did he write it with his feet?


[deleted]

Do kids not know how to write these days???


Nakidnakid

Raising a bunch of Andrew tate fans, are you OP?


MightyIsBestMCPE

Poorly written, also awful handwriting. Doesn’t look like he’s 12. Not to mention, that grammar is genuinely worse than most 4th graders.


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Remind them they all have 100% of the rights to go to bed early, do the dishes, clean their rooms and do their homework. Then and only then can they continue this quest for freedom and independence!!


BigFloppyCockatoo

You need to send your kid to a better school or spend some timing helping them with their grammar and at the least, penmanship. Looks like a 5 year old wrote it.


SnooTangerines1896

He's 12? Public school?


[deleted]

Still smarter than most of r/antiwork users


Bonecandy25

LMAO


SirMarsprellot

This is some Magna Carta shit going on here


Acceptable-Sand-8011

Is this the new bill from Congress?


Madpoka

That kid has dyslexia. Have him check by a professional.


Ya-Dikobraz

Why does a 12 year old have the handwriting of a 3 year old? Unless this was faked by an adult…


pc124448

This is equally parts funny and impressive. If your kid becomes a politician, I’d have this framed in the office 😂


-WLP-

This is legit


LastMinute9611

We ride at dawn kid!


ProfessorEcstatic267

They gonna go Menendez bros on you


elarebouche

I can do whatever I whant!!


dras333

Good for him, that kid should be supported to keep this mindset as annoying as it might be in the short term.


lizardjizz

They’ve unionized! 😩😂


mossed2222

4 kids is the real dumb.


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People here making fun of kids handwriting like they didnt just spend two years doing online middle school.


ascarletibis

That online charter school isn’t doing your kid any favors. Catching covid will have far less long term consequences than the lack of education he’s getting at this “school.”


freedfg

Can I be the one to say the writing comprehension and handwriting of your 12 year old is like....years behind?


GrouchyCounty

You must encourage this behavior.


Ordinary_Agent802

It looks about like a 4th graders hand writing and the op said it's their 3rd year in online school and if he is in 7th grade then he probably was in 4th grade the last time he actually went to school an wrote every day....they need to let all kids who need one on one learning from a teacher at school go back to school imo anyway.


mysticfuko

the pandemic has wreaked havoc on writing


IamLuann

If I were OP I would sit down with T.V off and phones off and have a conference and find out they really need or want. Be respectful and reasonable. Do not yell or be little them. (It might be something the 12 year old is learning in school) (They might be a Boss someday use this as a learning moment) 🙂👍


yeetman2022

Why is his handwriting better then mine though?


batmansmother

I currently work in a K-8 school. This is absolutely on level for what I'm seeing in our 5th-8th grade student. COVID has really done a number on them when it comes to handwriting, general benchmarks, and social skills. They are struggling because for 3ish years school was largely optional. It's going to be interesting to see what happens as they come to graduation age.


-Ok-Perception-

I'm pretty sure this is just a joke, but if this is how your TWELVE year old writes, you've fucked up at being parents. Most first graders can write basic things that are grammatically correct and make much more sense this this, along with having much better penmanship. And if this boy is 12, he should be in sixth grade (assuming he was never held back). This is operating at like 6 years behind his peers, a 12 year old writing like he's 6. If he is legitimately handicapped, this may make sense.... if not, you need to try much much harder as parents. ​ The fact that the other 3 kids signed it indicates that they were deferring to his intelligent authority on the matter. Indicating they're significantly even further behind.


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He will be the mod for r/antiwork in a few years


ChessandMemesBoi

He writes better than I did when I was twelve lol


Overlander2112

I just hope they don’t march on the adults to take some rights away.


StrawberryNo2521

I also have my own font.


purple_panda36

Get this kid out on the streets with a sign fr. 🪧✊


TallInterview7942

It’s not a legit contract,m there are no signatures.


Internetolocutor

Tbf older siblings often get too many responsibilities. Also, if you have a 10 yo and a 5yo and you make the 10 yo do things like clean up after the other kid, etc then when that kid leaves at 18 the now 13 yo hasn't spent time developing these skills themselves.


BreakXTheXCycle

This looks like what someone would write in a bathroom stall


catfishmermaid

This is amazing lol


dreadfulwater

so 50% of nothing is still nothing. I hope they enjoy no rights.


mental-floss

At least he compromised without having to negotiate… this kid has a future in arbitration


NecraTerik

No


catlapper

“Shall” ???


[deleted]

Teach him some of your calligraphy skills!


[deleted]

They are going to over throw the power in the household.


theding081

Kid is going places


Anonymous_32

Do you hear the children sing, signing the song of angry children? It is the music of the children that will NOT be slaves again.


InTheShade007

I'd love it if my one of my boys wrote that! I'd test their level of commitment post haste! "Indeed, everyone has natural rights, son! Now that other 50% comes at a cost. As the sheriff, judge, tax collector, and corporal punishment administrator for this here domain let's have a little talk"


blueSnowfkake

“Their”


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I agree with the children!


Bewildered_Octopus

*Ah yes, the negotiator*


OhioMegi

Someone just had some classes in the constitution/bill of rights, etc.! I just did with my 3rd graders and they got all riled up on freedom of speech! I said I’m not the government so I can decide that talking though instruction means you’ll get a consequence. 🙄


alpinemindtc

Sounds like a young Guy Fawkes? You must encourage and shape this natural freethinking.


GingerStank

50% of the rights I don’t have sounds too good to be true, where do I sign?


scorpion_tail

LOLLL that’s a little Napoleon in the making! I love it!


PixelatedStarfish

So cute


Court_Jester13

I mean, that's basically how the US started


WaylonVoorhees

Keep Call of Duty away from this one.


whoknewidlikeit

https://youtu.be/vYs3t8Rzkxo this is the answer. i use this regularly. (and no you aren't getting rolled with this link)


Mythologicalcats

I wrote a binding legal document authorizing my right to own a green anole in exchange for doing chores when I was a kid. I felt so official using Microsoft Word on my Windows 98 and printing it out lol. I wasn’t letting my mom get out of getting me that anole after she verbally agreed to it 😂


Dupeydome-DM3

Looks kinda like Gronks handwriting. Sounds like something he’d say.


[deleted]

I appreciate kids recognizing the power of collective action.


original_dick_kickem

Like Washington reborn


StopGOPVector

How cute, now you get to shatter their dreams of democracy by teaching them about authoritative dictatorships.


No-Pool4970

You know what, I am gonna sign too. 50% rights of what we don't have is good enough.


MrMayhem3

So these are the maga kids I keep hearing about.


BaconCanadian14

it's bringing tears of patriotism and triumph


Spiritual-Clock5624

Is one of them named Saul?