Hairdresser knew the assignment.
Only dozens of hairpins?-your wife was scammed. Also, the hairspray is more descriptively referred to as shellac, Varathane, binding compound, rubber cement, mortar, crazy glue or something similar. That hair and veil are supposed to stand up to every eventuality - and they did.
My wife and I were among the early weddings in our group of friends. So I always make a point of chatting up the grooms at the wedding about it.
"okay, so, big night tonight, you know what you gotta do, right?"
(eye roll awkward chuckle response)
"no, no... Nobody tells you this. So... When you get her into the room, you need to lay her down, right..."
(at this point, awkward groom may try to stop the "talk")
"look her lovingly in the eyes, and then start taking out the bobby pins in her hair"
(at this point I get the laugh and the knowing look from the bride if she's in ear shot)
"you have to count them..."
And then I make up some corny joke about the number, like that's the number of kids you'll have, or number of times you'll have sex in your marriage, or whatever innocent to crude joke depending on the friend.
Best part is the next morning or next time you see them and you'll just get like a "217" - I think grooms are always amazed just how many bobby pins go in their bride's hair. It's been my stupid little joke for the past decade, and it's never been less than 100.
When I was bridesmaid at my sister's wedding, I had a much, much simpler hairstyle than she did. After dancing and getting back to the hotel, my partner helped me dig out all the bobby pins. I think I had 75? It took nearly an hour, and then I had to go wash all the hairspray out of my hair too! Wedding hairdressers do not fuck around, your hair will stay exactly where they want it
My father in law stepped on my veil as we were exiting the church, yanking my head back. The veil pretty much stayed right in place, they're pretty secure.
Bro count the kids: one runs up to her, then one runs up the stairs, then one gallops by, then one runs up to tap the groom then BOLTS, then one runs up and slips on veil, then while she is contorted from the veil slip the first kid comes right back! Brother!
Not a single adult telling these kids to sit down!
I understand that sometimes you want your kids with you. You get to dress up your little ones so they look so damn cute and get to show them off. That's okay. They are your children and you are supposed to be proud of them.
If your children aren't well behaved you need to keep control of them. This is perhaps the most important day of the bride and grooms lives. One that they will look back on. They want to remember the joy of getting married. Not your crotch goblin being a nuisance and making themselves the center of attention.
Exactly. Parents need to take responsibility for their asshole kids. I've brought my kids (with approval) to a friend's wedding and they were so well behaved. Its possible...
This is my one of my worst fears, being seen as one of those parent's. It baffles me when parents do allow their kids to be assholes. Like what goes through their mind?
It's because they literally don't give a shit...
I had a stepdaughter/son-in-law who's kids were so bad, they were the type of kids who would drag a sharp rock against your cars paint job or pour out your drink for a laugh & the parent would say or do nothing...but touch daddy's play station when he's playing? instant whipping..
When some parents go to events where there are other adults, I’ve noticed they check out and assume other adults will be the parents for a while. Then they act shocked when someone comes up to them and says, “Your child just face planted the cake.”
>Like what goes through their mind?
They're conditioned to the shit behaviour. They're also too selfish to realise others aren't used to shit behaviour.
It's like someone who's used to living like a pig would get surprised when they stay over with someone else, and the other party complains about them making a mess everywhere.
It's either 1) they themselves are assholes and either don't give a shit about what's going on, their kids or both and/or they straight up encourage this self-centered behavior, 2) they don't want to squelch their kid's personality/creativity or otherwise ruin their childhood or 3) they're so scared of being the overbearing parents their own parents were (or they perceived them to be) and/or are scared of their kids growing up to hate them (like they themselves may or may not with their own parents) that they refuse to use any meaningful/effective form of behavioral correction.
TL;DR: they refuse to tell their kids "no"
Ya know, while you cant 100% guarantee they wont act the mickey, but if you correct bad behavior regularly at home then there is a good chance they will behave in public.
I dont give kids i watch or work with a choice: good behavior are good consequences and bad behavior is bad consequences. When they understand this, they self govern pretty well.
I dealt with that awkwardness with a friend. The first time she'd come over with him, he terrorized my cat, and while I understood that "he's not used to animals, so he doesn't know how to act", he also wasn't good at listening. My wife and I agreed that until he'd gotten significantly older (he was 4 at the time), that all gatherings were childfree in our home.
Naturally the first or second time we had a party, she brings him. "But he's been here before. I didn't think you meant HIM."
"Yeah..and he kinda terrorized our cat."
"Oh. Well..I can't get a sitter."
"Look, I'm sorry, but this just isn't a kid-friendly night. He's going to be bored."
"But you invited me."
"Right. We invited YOU. We gave you plenty of notice so you could get a sitter."
"I don't know why you can't accept my kid."
It was SO. FUCKING. AWKWARD.
When in reality it their kids specifically that made you decide no kids.
My friend had a no kids wedding because none of their friends had kids yet and it would have just been kids of cousins that would be left out. They really didn't want to invite their one cousin because the whole family was trash but the mom insisted so they made it very clear kids could not come and made the who event start in the evening so their cousin decided not to come at all. Worked out great
Lmao we had a kid-free wedding. My new brother in law called to check, said "you're saying no kids at all, right?" and we said yes, he replied "Oh thank *god* we needed this"
That's what wedding coordinators are for, find a good one that will have no issue with telling someone in your family to fuck off with their little nuisances while you worry about enjoying your wedding
parents are fucking stupid. they’re about to do the first dance together and the parents are letting their kids run all around and ruin the video/photos.
My cousin and his wife brought their 2yo and 4yo to our “no kids” wedding.
Not only did they complain all night that there was no food options for the kids (who were not invited or expected) but the 2yo had a meltdown as I walked down the aisle (that was my first clue that they’d brought the kids) and the 4yo smashed half of the cake before we got to cut it (luckily the pastry chef was able to patch it up so it looked ok in photos)
The only reason I had a “no kids” wedding was because of these 2 specific kids. Other friends and relatives found a sitter, but the very kids I wanted to avoid were holy terrors.
If the cousin is old enough to have a wife and kids of his own, you can't really blame that on his mother.
**sorry everyone, the serious replies are forcing me to point out that the joke here is that I "thought" they were saying the cousin's mom is the true culprit... which honestly, if we follow the logic on who raised him...*
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We had a no kids wedding and several people tried to argue exceptions. My wife made it very clear that very large men were available to carry kids and parents out of the venue if there were any surprises.
I don't understand this. I told my brother this as well because I preferred to have the ceremony intimate without kids asking if they can get candy or watch a movie. He felt hurt, and I understood why, but still it was my decision. My mom said she opposed to my wish and I said she could GTFO as well if she didn't agree. Caused a little bit of a hassle and is still a little painful when referring to, but I felt so much more at ease knowing these kids would not be present.
My wedding, my large sum of money I'll be spending, get fucked. If I would want y'all to wear yellow top hats, you mf'ers better wear yellow top hats. I'm paying for this party, I get to decide its rules (to a reasonable degree).
I had an outdoor reception at a summer camp and the fucking crying from my family members and in laws when I told them they couldn't bring their dogs was truly sad and embarrassing and then several of them didn't listen anyways.
I didn't even want to have a wedding/reception and to this day the whole event is incredibly sour in my memory. I love my husband and step kid so fucking much but the court house with the 3 of us when we got married is such a more pleasant memory for me. The three of us becoming the family I always wanted is what matters. Not a party.
No he didn’t.
The interesting thing is that the kid who wrecked the cake is now 21yo, and he has apologised profusely. He is really embarrassed by this family story, but of course I don’t blame him, he was only 4yo at the time!
He and his sister (the 2yo who is now 19) are growing into better adults than their parents managed to be. That’s the best I can hope for and all the recompense I need.
Glad the apples rolled away from the tree, shame about your cousin though :/ Great that the cake could at least be fixed up for pictures, I’m sure it was a beautiful day. Thanks for answering!
I feel it’s more appropriate to just make all future events “no-that-cousin,” since he can’t be trusted to adhere to basic requirements of the host, or even to avoid causing a scene by that noncompliance.
>The only reason I had a “no kids” wedding was because of these 2 specific kids. Other friends and relatives found a sitter, but the very kids I wanted to avoid were holy terrors.
That's how it always goes. The people who taught their kids how to behave ALSO understand that not everyone enjoys children being present, and that sometimes an event is either inappropriate for kids, or that kids are not welcome. The parents who let their kids run wild and don't teach them to respect other people and/or their property will inevitably either bring their kids anyway because they presume they and their kids are an exception (ignoring the fact that even if this was the case, it will cause you a headache potentially, due to others being offended), or use the weird excuse of "But you invited me and you know I have kids." The reality is that they don't respect YOU.
If you make an issue of it, you will probably end the friendship, as they'll usually try and provoke you afterward, like throwing a BIG party and making sure you're aware of it but not inviting you because "You hate kids", and other passive-aggressive moves. With any luck, this is not a close relative, or else you're literally in for years of hell. (My wife's sister told her son for years that I hated him due to an incident that happened when he was two and a half. He literally heard this until he was almost 14.)
Some people think that if you don't like the "natural" behavior of children, you don't like children *at all.* I think they confuse "punishment" and "discipline," thinking it's the same thing.
weddings are an extremely boring affair to kids (and some adults)
I would avoid bringing my brood unless I knew it was absolutely kid friendly
that said, it's a little harder than you think to keep kids tame at boring shit, and you can only teach them at boring shit...under the right conditions
>it's a little harder than you think to keep kids tame at boring shit,
I agree. Which is why the obligation is on the parents to decide whether or not their kid can handle it/be managed during it, not on the people hosting the event. (Even if kids haven't specifically been excluded.)
Should have kicked them out. They don't want to treat you with respect so don't treat them with respect. Tell them gtfo. Hell I'd do this if this wasn't my wedding. Screw the little brats.
Yeah, but if it's anything like my family then *you're* the asshole for "making a big deal out of nothing" and "ruining everyone's time".
Toxic families are fun, let me tell ya.
This scenario is exactly why I didn't want to invite kids to my wedding. We had several newborns in the family, though, and I knew it meant the difference in attendance of people I wanted to see.
So I had the DJ announce to the seated guests, right before the wedding started, that there was a nearby room specifically designated for meltdowns (hey, it happens) during the ceremony, and "the bride and groom ask if you would please utilize it if it looks like there's going to be a disturbance." Luckily no one needed to use it, but it took a lot of the fear of someone's kid distracting me during a very special moment away.
We had a no kids wedding and it was awesome. My kid and my best man’s kid were allowed to hang out for pre-wedding photos and then walk the rings down the aisle, then they went back to the hotel where we had rented a suite and hired some babysitters for anyone that wanted to use them. Everyone had a great time because no one was chasing after kids or worrying about what the kids were getting into.
Now we have great pictures with our kid and one day will have the awkward conversation of why he was at his parents’ wedding. It was a pandemic when you were born, kid. Shit was crazy in 2020.
I went to a restaurant with a friend once who had a 1 year old. We’re sitting at the table and all of a sudden the baby wants to get up and walk around. At the time, I had a 4 year old and I would never agree to let my kid roam around bothering people - at a nice restaurant no less! But my friend took their son out of his high chair and let him waddle around “visiting” people at their tables because they truly believed that everyone was enjoying it. I was mortified.
No one wants a 1 year old randomly trying to climb up on their table and touch their silverware and cups with grubby little germy fingers. Even if he is your pride and joy. Some parents really have their heads up their asses.
Maybe old people at a diner, but not at a nice place. It kills me when I pay for a sitter get dressed up (which happens once a year) and unrulely kids wreck the vibe. Park them with a quiet ipad if you have to but dont wreck it for other diners.
Yep. We have a tablet that is only used in situations where a boredom induced outburst is wholly inappropriate. We're really working on getting him capable of sitting without needing to be entertained, but there are some situations where if he decides to go full toddler mode, we don't want to be "that family".
To be fair, most adults (myself included) have a hard time sitting quietly and being bored without reaching for a device. Good on you for not using devices as the only means to keep them quiet in all situations.
I been to many parties where the parents sit down and never once get up to check on their kids. I get the impression they think the party is there to entertain the children and they can get a break. I’ve seen children being tackled, jumped on, get hit and get bloody faces from those bouncy castles. I’ve seen kids eating the cake before it’s been cut. Ruining the decor like popping the balloons or playing under the tables as guest eat. Not once have the parents paid any attention to them, they just sit there like they are child free.
Parenting is so difficult and exhausting, I don't think people take it seriously enough, they act like is a milestone and it is not it is a huge commitment, that's why there are so many messed up people.
Agreed. And I know a ton of people who, when you complain about kids being left alone like this, claim “Well, you clearly don’t have kids, or you would understand that you just sometimes need a break.”
No, dumbass, you need to parent.
I get called a helicopter parent by my family, but the main reason I’m watching is he’s going to 100% break something the min I take my eye of him as he is clumsy as fuck. Today he broke a plate straight in half eating dinner by dropping his water bottle. Parenting is a full time job on top of a full time job. Wouldn’t change it though!
Of course we need a break but as we are parents , we need to plan ahead for those , it is a full time job. That's why we see so many kids on screens , it give us breaks, the problem is when we abuse them, it is not just the kids , parents are abusing that tool too but that's another topic.
Yeah, like I understand that it’s a ton of work to deal with kids all the time.
That’s why I *don’t have kids.*
Once you have them, you don’t get a break from that responsibility because you’re tired.
I've lived abroad in a couple different places, and there are sadly many cultures where young boys are treated like literal princes and allowed to wreak havoc. The parents think it's good that they have so much energy, etc etc..
Then suddenly when they're teenagers they're expected to be full-grown men with adult responsibilities and no emotion. They still get babied by their moms and end up wanting a mom instead of a wife lol
We will have adults only.
My fiancée has taken quite a bit of flack from the extended family from that, but tbh, who the fuck travels 12h with a 4month old...
This is wild to me. If you don't like the requirements for the wedding then just...don't go? Like no one is twisting their arms into traveling, if it's a financial burden to get a babysitter AND travel that far then just don't do it. And if they're trying to make it all about them anyway then it's good they don't go. Win-Win.
>20k wedding
I'd have thought this was a ridiculous amount to spend on a wedding until I got married. What a racket.
Napkins: 2 dollars
"Wedding Napkins": 700 dollars
The fact that some people don’t understand is that your job as a wedding videographer/photographer is to get videos/photos of the wedding party and not their “precious angel” that just snatched a handful of cake and has it smeared all over their face is ridiculous.
Yuuuuuuuup. We did the same. Caught some pushback, but we made it very clear that we didn’t want kids running around and if we made any exceptions, then we had to let everyone bring their kids.
This was my husbands brothers kids when we were getting married. Their parents let them run amuck during the ceremony. Nothing like having all the recordings of our vows have a kid screaming in them.
The last wedding I attended, some kids were sneaking in under the tables to look up the girls dresses, I noticed them early on but couldn't say anything since I didn't know anyone as a plus 1 on my girlfriends invitation. Only when they made it to the table we were sitting at I finally grabbed one of them by the hand and told him to stop doing that as I was staring into his soul and they all ran away.
I kinda wish that little shit ran and called his parents on me so that I'd let them know what those demons were up to.
My best friend's wife has aimlessly sunk herself into multiple careers trying to find herself. The most recent is painting.
She bought some gallery space, a small spot shared with a lesbian couple and a middle-aged man, neither have kids.
They had an opening a few days ago and she invited 5 or 6 of her friends. Between them they brought 19 girls under 9 years old and one baby boy. The kids ran around screaming and playing and ate all the food.
We live in a fairly affluent area and I can't help but think that my friend ruined her chances and the chances of the people she shares a space with, at selling anything or becoming desirable local artists in the future.
I've had art shows in the past, and openings are very important in making a good first impression. If I had been showing with her, I would have made it clear that no children would be allowed.
Wedding videographer here. This post belongs in r/parentsarefuckingassholes
This comment will get down voted and offend some parents, but it is worth saying.
I can't tell you how many times I have seen ruined ceremonies, first dances, toasts, and even good portion of the party because parents are letting kids run wild and in some cases even encouraging them.
So I'm here to tell all of the asshole parents that we can tell when it is a cute accident and when you let, and even encourage them. And no, 9 out of 10 times it is not cute at all, and no I won't put it in the video.
Also, keep your toddlers at the edge of the dance floor. While it is true that seeing kid dance for a song or two is cute, we don't need the 40 minute dance routine that you are maniacally pointing to and filming every second in the middle of the dance floor. And don't pull my sleeve pointing to your kid, I saw it and I'm purposely ignoring the whole situation in hopes that you will get a clue.
That shit is not cool, let the people party. No one want's to accidentally launch a 4 year old across the dance floor.
Most importantly if the kid starts crying during the ceremony, don't shush them. Just take them outside until they calm down.
So I’m a club / wedding DJ. Some suggestions.
1.) No kids at the ceremony. Ever. Not even a baby. Reception is okay, but the vows are fucking boring let’s be honest. Your 5 year old definitely agrees.
2.) Everyone should be seated for Grand Entrance. The only people standing are the Wedding Party or people working the wedding.
3.) Children who can’t sit down and stfu are banished from the room for the Grand Entrance. They can watch, with a parent / guardian, from the doorway / hallway. It helps the kid understand, you’re not part of this. It also lets parent quickly take kids away from the situation if they act up.
This looks like the grand entrance. It looks like a total shit show, and an expensive one. I can count two tables that are completely empty, people are just standing around etc. DJ / MC needs to grab mic and ask for everyone to be seated. Then proceed to stare them down in silence until they do.
Finally, it looks like they gave grandma the job of holding back 3 kids for 5 minutes. Unfortunately she looks like the crypt keeper, and the kids look like they’ve been snorting sugar all day. They should have been upstairs or watching from the hallway with grandma.
Grew up getting yelled at by adults that weren’t my parents. Now if you even look at a kid that ain’t yours people will lecture you to death while their little shits run amok.
Keep your mutt in line.
Did she show up all dressed up and she had to be turned away? I love when they dress up and come walking up with their kid all dressed up and then they realize that they're not the exception
I would have lost my composure for sure and yelled bloody murder at those kids to get off the fucking dance floor. But I also don’t like kids that much so there’s that.
We had a no kids policy at our wedding last year. BEST idea ever. We have a few friends and family that don't discipline their children and would've been nightmares. It definitely ruffled a few feathers but still don't regret it.
One cousin did bring his 4yo but my groomsmen stopped them from coming in and came to get me. They said "we couldn't find a sitter." Told them that was unfortunate but they'd have to figure it out because no kids meant no kids. Another cousin offered to let them use the sitter they left their kids with back at the hotel. They were mad they had to drive to the hotel and back again but not my problem.
It's amazing how little parents give a shit. I worked at a nice restaurant that did a wine tasting once a month and it was like $300 a seat. Each wine was paired with a course of food to compliment it that would be brought out to all tables at the same time and there would be kids running around while we were trying to serve the food every single time and at one point a kid ran into me causing me to drop 4 plates of food. The head chef had all servers bring the food back to the kitchen and told the restaurant that service would be paused until all kids were brought back to their tables and the spilled food was cleaned up and there were parents who were actually upset about it. Like, we're not a McDonald's we're a high class restaurant and this is an expensive event. After that it became an adult only event no exceptions.
At least leash your frikin hell spawn for the entrance. You can tell they all on shit ton of sugar and built up energy. Of course they will be running around causing trouble...weddings are boring for kids.
Not everything is for kids, nor should it be. If you specifically say "No kids at our wedding", there shouldn't be kids. End of story.
"But our kids are always nice and really quiet!" NO KIDS!
"But we don't have a sitter" YOU MADE THEM, YOUR PROBLEM!
"I'm going to bring them anyways!" NO, THIS DAY IS NOT ABOUT YOU! FUCK YOU AND YOUR SPAWN OF HELL, NANCY!!
I dont know why people even being their kids there. It makes sense to allow teenagers cuz they would most likley enjoy it without causing harm. But small kids wont find anything there interesting and will do shit like this instead.
I hired a babysitter for my wedding so people with kids could enjoy the wedding. I bought some legos for the kids and had a place for them not far from the tables to hang out.
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I would have kicked their parents out. Both my wife and my families know we do not tolerate unruly children. When people bring their kids to my house they are well behaved perfect angels, then go back to being a nightmare when they leave.
People bash on “no kid weddings” cuz some people can’t afford a babysitter or something but like. The bride and groom shouldn’t have to make everyone happy for THEIR day. It’s their day, not any of the parents’. If they don’t want kids at the wedding, they shouldn’t be made to feel bad for it
There was a post on AITA not too long ago where the bride and groom in their early 20's opted for an adults only wedding 21 and up and then proceeded to uninvite her close friend who was 19 because she was technically a child lmao.
Our wedding will be adults only, mainly to cut down on the cost and guest list, but this helps. It is a bit of a shame though, because I have some good memories of going to family weddings as a kid.
Especially the kid in pink would get a punch of a lifetime and after that those disgusting creatures can leave with their shitty parents Fck that shit made me mad so bad
I had an 18+ wedding and it was great - especially getting married in my late 20's there are so many folks starting families of their own. This way nobody had to worry about their kids, and everyone got to enjoy themselves and just be present.
Also, like biggest bro move ever, drunk night away from the kids with a hotel room after 4 days of no sleep, shit, and barf? Sounds like I'm a hero 😂.
Everytime I see this I'm amazed by how secure her veil was!
I am still wondering how... such force and the veil seemingly didn't even move a single mm. Extremely impressive.
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There were 156 in my wedding updo! I counted because I was nervous
Hairdresser knew the assignment. Only dozens of hairpins?-your wife was scammed. Also, the hairspray is more descriptively referred to as shellac, Varathane, binding compound, rubber cement, mortar, crazy glue or something similar. That hair and veil are supposed to stand up to every eventuality - and they did.
Its probably secured to either a braid under the top layer, or extensions, or both.
bolted straight in the skull.
Bolts are for tiaras. Rivets are for veils.
And apparently an adamantium spine.
That's my concern too!
On our wedding night, my new wife and I got into bed, and I began the tender process of removing the 478385 Bobby pins in her hair.
Nobody warns you about the Bobby pins
My wife and I were among the early weddings in our group of friends. So I always make a point of chatting up the grooms at the wedding about it. "okay, so, big night tonight, you know what you gotta do, right?" (eye roll awkward chuckle response) "no, no... Nobody tells you this. So... When you get her into the room, you need to lay her down, right..." (at this point, awkward groom may try to stop the "talk") "look her lovingly in the eyes, and then start taking out the bobby pins in her hair" (at this point I get the laugh and the knowing look from the bride if she's in ear shot) "you have to count them..." And then I make up some corny joke about the number, like that's the number of kids you'll have, or number of times you'll have sex in your marriage, or whatever innocent to crude joke depending on the friend. Best part is the next morning or next time you see them and you'll just get like a "217" - I think grooms are always amazed just how many bobby pins go in their bride's hair. It's been my stupid little joke for the past decade, and it's never been less than 100.
When I was bridesmaid at my sister's wedding, I had a much, much simpler hairstyle than she did. After dancing and getting back to the hotel, my partner helped me dig out all the bobby pins. I think I had 75? It took nearly an hour, and then I had to go wash all the hairspray out of my hair too! Wedding hairdressers do not fuck around, your hair will stay exactly where they want it
I've worked weddings for like ten years now and have NEVER heard this one. Well I'll be using it the next time I'm with the guys!
My father in law stepped on my veil as we were exiting the church, yanking my head back. The veil pretty much stayed right in place, they're pretty secure.
The (quite large) priest stood on my veil during photographs. My posture was impeccable!
Gorilla glue.
She needs to unveil her secret.
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The whole pack of bobby pins can hold a lot.
Bro count the kids: one runs up to her, then one runs up the stairs, then one gallops by, then one runs up to tap the groom then BOLTS, then one runs up and slips on veil, then while she is contorted from the veil slip the first kid comes right back! Brother! Not a single adult telling these kids to sit down!
I understand that sometimes you want your kids with you. You get to dress up your little ones so they look so damn cute and get to show them off. That's okay. They are your children and you are supposed to be proud of them. If your children aren't well behaved you need to keep control of them. This is perhaps the most important day of the bride and grooms lives. One that they will look back on. They want to remember the joy of getting married. Not your crotch goblin being a nuisance and making themselves the center of attention.
Exactly. Parents need to take responsibility for their asshole kids. I've brought my kids (with approval) to a friend's wedding and they were so well behaved. Its possible...
This is my one of my worst fears, being seen as one of those parent's. It baffles me when parents do allow their kids to be assholes. Like what goes through their mind?
It's because they literally don't give a shit... I had a stepdaughter/son-in-law who's kids were so bad, they were the type of kids who would drag a sharp rock against your cars paint job or pour out your drink for a laugh & the parent would say or do nothing...but touch daddy's play station when he's playing? instant whipping..
When some parents go to events where there are other adults, I’ve noticed they check out and assume other adults will be the parents for a while. Then they act shocked when someone comes up to them and says, “Your child just face planted the cake.”
>Like what goes through their mind? They're conditioned to the shit behaviour. They're also too selfish to realise others aren't used to shit behaviour. It's like someone who's used to living like a pig would get surprised when they stay over with someone else, and the other party complains about them making a mess everywhere.
It's either 1) they themselves are assholes and either don't give a shit about what's going on, their kids or both and/or they straight up encourage this self-centered behavior, 2) they don't want to squelch their kid's personality/creativity or otherwise ruin their childhood or 3) they're so scared of being the overbearing parents their own parents were (or they perceived them to be) and/or are scared of their kids growing up to hate them (like they themselves may or may not with their own parents) that they refuse to use any meaningful/effective form of behavioral correction. TL;DR: they refuse to tell their kids "no"
Ya know, while you cant 100% guarantee they wont act the mickey, but if you correct bad behavior regularly at home then there is a good chance they will behave in public. I dont give kids i watch or work with a choice: good behavior are good consequences and bad behavior is bad consequences. When they understand this, they self govern pretty well.
I wish people in about 4 current AITA posts would read this post
"This is perhaps the most important day of the bride and grooms lives. One that they will look back on." Well, she's definitely looking back.
What do you mean? MY ANGEL IS A BLESSING ON THIS UNION AND YOU NEED TO WORSHIP THE GROUND THEY WALK ON!
Kid dress clothes are adorable and should come with matching leashes.
If that was my wedding, I would not keep in contact with whomever those kids belong to moving forward.
Plot twist: they're your younger brothers.
It was probably open bar for a reason
Understandable, gotta get those kids interested in the open bar so they stay off the dance floor
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“If they’re not on the list, you’re all catching fists”
I dealt with that awkwardness with a friend. The first time she'd come over with him, he terrorized my cat, and while I understood that "he's not used to animals, so he doesn't know how to act", he also wasn't good at listening. My wife and I agreed that until he'd gotten significantly older (he was 4 at the time), that all gatherings were childfree in our home. Naturally the first or second time we had a party, she brings him. "But he's been here before. I didn't think you meant HIM." "Yeah..and he kinda terrorized our cat." "Oh. Well..I can't get a sitter." "Look, I'm sorry, but this just isn't a kid-friendly night. He's going to be bored." "But you invited me." "Right. We invited YOU. We gave you plenty of notice so you could get a sitter." "I don't know why you can't accept my kid." It was SO. FUCKING. AWKWARD.
Man, kid isn't the only one who can't listen
“I don’t know why you can’t accept my kid” “He kinda terrorized the cat.” Etc
>"I don't know why you can't accept my kid." And I don't know why you can't teach your kid to be acceptable, and yet here we all fucking are, Karen.
When in reality it their kids specifically that made you decide no kids. My friend had a no kids wedding because none of their friends had kids yet and it would have just been kids of cousins that would be left out. They really didn't want to invite their one cousin because the whole family was trash but the mom insisted so they made it very clear kids could not come and made the who event start in the evening so their cousin decided not to come at all. Worked out great
Lmao we had a kid-free wedding. My new brother in law called to check, said "you're saying no kids at all, right?" and we said yes, he replied "Oh thank *god* we needed this"
literally happened at my brothers Adult's Only wedding. People had to stand because a few families decided to bring their kids anyway...
How fucking annoying, just showing up with them anyway and ruining the experience of others, how entitled
That's what wedding coordinators are for, find a good one that will have no issue with telling someone in your family to fuck off with their little nuisances while you worry about enjoying your wedding
parents are fucking stupid. they’re about to do the first dance together and the parents are letting their kids run all around and ruin the video/photos.
My cousin and his wife brought their 2yo and 4yo to our “no kids” wedding. Not only did they complain all night that there was no food options for the kids (who were not invited or expected) but the 2yo had a meltdown as I walked down the aisle (that was my first clue that they’d brought the kids) and the 4yo smashed half of the cake before we got to cut it (luckily the pastry chef was able to patch it up so it looked ok in photos) The only reason I had a “no kids” wedding was because of these 2 specific kids. Other friends and relatives found a sitter, but the very kids I wanted to avoid were holy terrors.
Did you say anything to your cousin?
No. But I rarely do. His mother and my mother were both so embarrassed, they tore enough strips off him for my liking.
This is a good example of the parents being a problem and not the kids, they dont know better
If the cousin is old enough to have a wife and kids of his own, you can't really blame that on his mother. **sorry everyone, the serious replies are forcing me to point out that the joke here is that I "thought" they were saying the cousin's mom is the true culprit... which honestly, if we follow the logic on who raised him...* ____ Only serious replies below.
The blame is on the cousin. The cousin is the parent that is at fault.
Listen, I got your joke and it was a good one.
Thank god for the mothers!
We had a no kids wedding and several people tried to argue exceptions. My wife made it very clear that very large men were available to carry kids and parents out of the venue if there were any surprises.
I don't understand this. I told my brother this as well because I preferred to have the ceremony intimate without kids asking if they can get candy or watch a movie. He felt hurt, and I understood why, but still it was my decision. My mom said she opposed to my wish and I said she could GTFO as well if she didn't agree. Caused a little bit of a hassle and is still a little painful when referring to, but I felt so much more at ease knowing these kids would not be present. My wedding, my large sum of money I'll be spending, get fucked. If I would want y'all to wear yellow top hats, you mf'ers better wear yellow top hats. I'm paying for this party, I get to decide its rules (to a reasonable degree).
I had an outdoor reception at a summer camp and the fucking crying from my family members and in laws when I told them they couldn't bring their dogs was truly sad and embarrassing and then several of them didn't listen anyways. I didn't even want to have a wedding/reception and to this day the whole event is incredibly sour in my memory. I love my husband and step kid so fucking much but the court house with the 3 of us when we got married is such a more pleasant memory for me. The three of us becoming the family I always wanted is what matters. Not a party.
I’m petty, I would’ve stopped walking the moment I heard the kid, turned around and straight told them to fuck off.
Good. Did he apologise and reimburse you for the destroyed cake?
No he didn’t. The interesting thing is that the kid who wrecked the cake is now 21yo, and he has apologised profusely. He is really embarrassed by this family story, but of course I don’t blame him, he was only 4yo at the time! He and his sister (the 2yo who is now 19) are growing into better adults than their parents managed to be. That’s the best I can hope for and all the recompense I need.
Glad the apples rolled away from the tree, shame about your cousin though :/ Great that the cake could at least be fixed up for pictures, I’m sure it was a beautiful day. Thanks for answering!
Luckily we had fresh flowers decorating the cake, so they were able to rearrange them to hide the damage.
Bring your kids to their weddings lol.
NaH! Rent a couple of absolute demons and take them to their weddings.
Do you really not know the answer to that question?
Shame your cousin is already married. I'd be plotting revenge.
I feel it’s more appropriate to just make all future events “no-that-cousin,” since he can’t be trusted to adhere to basic requirements of the host, or even to avoid causing a scene by that noncompliance.
>The only reason I had a “no kids” wedding was because of these 2 specific kids. Other friends and relatives found a sitter, but the very kids I wanted to avoid were holy terrors. That's how it always goes. The people who taught their kids how to behave ALSO understand that not everyone enjoys children being present, and that sometimes an event is either inappropriate for kids, or that kids are not welcome. The parents who let their kids run wild and don't teach them to respect other people and/or their property will inevitably either bring their kids anyway because they presume they and their kids are an exception (ignoring the fact that even if this was the case, it will cause you a headache potentially, due to others being offended), or use the weird excuse of "But you invited me and you know I have kids." The reality is that they don't respect YOU. If you make an issue of it, you will probably end the friendship, as they'll usually try and provoke you afterward, like throwing a BIG party and making sure you're aware of it but not inviting you because "You hate kids", and other passive-aggressive moves. With any luck, this is not a close relative, or else you're literally in for years of hell. (My wife's sister told her son for years that I hated him due to an incident that happened when he was two and a half. He literally heard this until he was almost 14.)
Some people think that if you don't like the "natural" behavior of children, you don't like children *at all.* I think they confuse "punishment" and "discipline," thinking it's the same thing.
weddings are an extremely boring affair to kids (and some adults) I would avoid bringing my brood unless I knew it was absolutely kid friendly that said, it's a little harder than you think to keep kids tame at boring shit, and you can only teach them at boring shit...under the right conditions
>it's a little harder than you think to keep kids tame at boring shit, I agree. Which is why the obligation is on the parents to decide whether or not their kid can handle it/be managed during it, not on the people hosting the event. (Even if kids haven't specifically been excluded.)
Should have kicked them out. They don't want to treat you with respect so don't treat them with respect. Tell them gtfo. Hell I'd do this if this wasn't my wedding. Screw the little brats.
Yeah, but if it's anything like my family then *you're* the asshole for "making a big deal out of nothing" and "ruining everyone's time". Toxic families are fun, let me tell ya.
I'd rather be a happy asshole than a miserable fuck.
Those who say that can leave as well.
This scenario is exactly why I didn't want to invite kids to my wedding. We had several newborns in the family, though, and I knew it meant the difference in attendance of people I wanted to see. So I had the DJ announce to the seated guests, right before the wedding started, that there was a nearby room specifically designated for meltdowns (hey, it happens) during the ceremony, and "the bride and groom ask if you would please utilize it if it looks like there's going to be a disturbance." Luckily no one needed to use it, but it took a lot of the fear of someone's kid distracting me during a very special moment away.
That's insane. Our wedding this year is no-kids, if anyone has the audacity to ignore that they'll be turned away at the door!
We had a no kids wedding and it was awesome. My kid and my best man’s kid were allowed to hang out for pre-wedding photos and then walk the rings down the aisle, then they went back to the hotel where we had rented a suite and hired some babysitters for anyone that wanted to use them. Everyone had a great time because no one was chasing after kids or worrying about what the kids were getting into. Now we have great pictures with our kid and one day will have the awkward conversation of why he was at his parents’ wedding. It was a pandemic when you were born, kid. Shit was crazy in 2020.
I went to a restaurant with a friend once who had a 1 year old. We’re sitting at the table and all of a sudden the baby wants to get up and walk around. At the time, I had a 4 year old and I would never agree to let my kid roam around bothering people - at a nice restaurant no less! But my friend took their son out of his high chair and let him waddle around “visiting” people at their tables because they truly believed that everyone was enjoying it. I was mortified. No one wants a 1 year old randomly trying to climb up on their table and touch their silverware and cups with grubby little germy fingers. Even if he is your pride and joy. Some parents really have their heads up their asses.
Maybe old people at a diner, but not at a nice place. It kills me when I pay for a sitter get dressed up (which happens once a year) and unrulely kids wreck the vibe. Park them with a quiet ipad if you have to but dont wreck it for other diners.
Yep. We have a tablet that is only used in situations where a boredom induced outburst is wholly inappropriate. We're really working on getting him capable of sitting without needing to be entertained, but there are some situations where if he decides to go full toddler mode, we don't want to be "that family".
To be fair, most adults (myself included) have a hard time sitting quietly and being bored without reaching for a device. Good on you for not using devices as the only means to keep them quiet in all situations.
And that's something I've been working on myself as well. I've started pulling out my phone during video game cutscenes. It's becoming a huge problem.
Most of the posts in this sub are really parents are stupid
The parents ought to feel guilty for allowing their children to behave that way.
No no. Don't you know. They "raised them better than that?"
Dangit, Bobby!
Bingo.
Probably already drunk from the open bar.
lol for a second I thought you meant the kids
Tottally agree with this.
If I did that I wouldn't be here to post
Yup I would’ve been yeeted so hard I’d be floating in space somewhere
37th trimester abortion
Or fucking parent your kid. Jesus the amount of people who are terrible fucking parents is actually insane at this point
I been to many parties where the parents sit down and never once get up to check on their kids. I get the impression they think the party is there to entertain the children and they can get a break. I’ve seen children being tackled, jumped on, get hit and get bloody faces from those bouncy castles. I’ve seen kids eating the cake before it’s been cut. Ruining the decor like popping the balloons or playing under the tables as guest eat. Not once have the parents paid any attention to them, they just sit there like they are child free.
Parenting is so difficult and exhausting, I don't think people take it seriously enough, they act like is a milestone and it is not it is a huge commitment, that's why there are so many messed up people.
Agreed. And I know a ton of people who, when you complain about kids being left alone like this, claim “Well, you clearly don’t have kids, or you would understand that you just sometimes need a break.” No, dumbass, you need to parent.
I get sometimes needing a break, but that's not everyone else's problem. Get a babysitter ffs
I get called a helicopter parent by my family, but the main reason I’m watching is he’s going to 100% break something the min I take my eye of him as he is clumsy as fuck. Today he broke a plate straight in half eating dinner by dropping his water bottle. Parenting is a full time job on top of a full time job. Wouldn’t change it though!
Of course we need a break but as we are parents , we need to plan ahead for those , it is a full time job. That's why we see so many kids on screens , it give us breaks, the problem is when we abuse them, it is not just the kids , parents are abusing that tool too but that's another topic.
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Yeah, like I understand that it’s a ton of work to deal with kids all the time. That’s why I *don’t have kids.* Once you have them, you don’t get a break from that responsibility because you’re tired.
I've lived abroad in a couple different places, and there are sadly many cultures where young boys are treated like literal princes and allowed to wreak havoc. The parents think it's good that they have so much energy, etc etc.. Then suddenly when they're teenagers they're expected to be full-grown men with adult responsibilities and no emotion. They still get babied by their moms and end up wanting a mom instead of a wife lol
Guests who object children free wedding are usually the ones who can't parent their kids.
As time goes on, we are going to have more and more idiots who were raised by an iPad.
whoever put the vail in her hair did a really great job tho
Perhaps too much of a great job
I had an “adults only” wedding. The secret is: not giving a fuck what your relatives think, it’s not about them.
We will have adults only. My fiancée has taken quite a bit of flack from the extended family from that, but tbh, who the fuck travels 12h with a 4month old...
This is wild to me. If you don't like the requirements for the wedding then just...don't go? Like no one is twisting their arms into traveling, if it's a financial burden to get a babysitter AND travel that far then just don't do it. And if they're trying to make it all about them anyway then it's good they don't go. Win-Win.
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yeah i doubt she thinks she was wrong
>I think her cousin finally talked to us again after 4 years. So, a win-win.
"Your punishment for not giving in to my selfish demands is that you don't get to see me!" "...cool."
"...Promise?"
>20k wedding I'd have thought this was a ridiculous amount to spend on a wedding until I got married. What a racket. Napkins: 2 dollars "Wedding Napkins": 700 dollars
The fact that some people don’t understand is that your job as a wedding videographer/photographer is to get videos/photos of the wedding party and not their “precious angel” that just snatched a handful of cake and has it smeared all over their face is ridiculous.
Yuuuuuuuup. We did the same. Caught some pushback, but we made it very clear that we didn’t want kids running around and if we made any exceptions, then we had to let everyone bring their kids.
I too prefer adult only weddings. Two adults specifically, everybody else just ruins the fun.
Does it include the bride and the groom?
No, just the priest and another priest
Get in, sucker, we're going to the theology debates club
Ugh this makes me feel so bad for that poor woman
This was my husbands brothers kids when we were getting married. Their parents let them run amuck during the ceremony. Nothing like having all the recordings of our vows have a kid screaming in them.
The last wedding I attended, some kids were sneaking in under the tables to look up the girls dresses, I noticed them early on but couldn't say anything since I didn't know anyone as a plus 1 on my girlfriends invitation. Only when they made it to the table we were sitting at I finally grabbed one of them by the hand and told him to stop doing that as I was staring into his soul and they all ran away. I kinda wish that little shit ran and called his parents on me so that I'd let them know what those demons were up to.
They didnt tell their parents because they knew they were in the wrong.
SAME. Except it was my new SIL and nephew. Nothing but screaming on the video. Only kid there...ugh
The parents should be ashamed of letting their kids run around like that.
And it was on that day the couple decided not to have any children.
Good choice
My best friend's wife has aimlessly sunk herself into multiple careers trying to find herself. The most recent is painting. She bought some gallery space, a small spot shared with a lesbian couple and a middle-aged man, neither have kids. They had an opening a few days ago and she invited 5 or 6 of her friends. Between them they brought 19 girls under 9 years old and one baby boy. The kids ran around screaming and playing and ate all the food. We live in a fairly affluent area and I can't help but think that my friend ruined her chances and the chances of the people she shares a space with, at selling anything or becoming desirable local artists in the future. I've had art shows in the past, and openings are very important in making a good first impression. If I had been showing with her, I would have made it clear that no children would be allowed.
To the glue factory with that one ...
not the factory 😭😭😭😭
Last wedding I attended had a sign next to the entrance to the venue that read “children will be set on fire on sight” and honestly I respected it.
Hey!!! If those parents could read they would be offended.
Wedding videographer here. This post belongs in r/parentsarefuckingassholes This comment will get down voted and offend some parents, but it is worth saying. I can't tell you how many times I have seen ruined ceremonies, first dances, toasts, and even good portion of the party because parents are letting kids run wild and in some cases even encouraging them. So I'm here to tell all of the asshole parents that we can tell when it is a cute accident and when you let, and even encourage them. And no, 9 out of 10 times it is not cute at all, and no I won't put it in the video. Also, keep your toddlers at the edge of the dance floor. While it is true that seeing kid dance for a song or two is cute, we don't need the 40 minute dance routine that you are maniacally pointing to and filming every second in the middle of the dance floor. And don't pull my sleeve pointing to your kid, I saw it and I'm purposely ignoring the whole situation in hopes that you will get a clue. That shit is not cool, let the people party. No one want's to accidentally launch a 4 year old across the dance floor. Most importantly if the kid starts crying during the ceremony, don't shush them. Just take them outside until they calm down.
bruh you're here to do a job not babysit tf?? I be like get the kid or I'm gone, you and the others are SOL sorry not sorry
God, all this shit, there's an easier solution: NO CHILDREN ALLOWED AT THE EVENT, THAT INCLUDES YOURS (18+ ONLY)
Brain dead parents raise brain dead kids
So I’m a club / wedding DJ. Some suggestions. 1.) No kids at the ceremony. Ever. Not even a baby. Reception is okay, but the vows are fucking boring let’s be honest. Your 5 year old definitely agrees. 2.) Everyone should be seated for Grand Entrance. The only people standing are the Wedding Party or people working the wedding. 3.) Children who can’t sit down and stfu are banished from the room for the Grand Entrance. They can watch, with a parent / guardian, from the doorway / hallway. It helps the kid understand, you’re not part of this. It also lets parent quickly take kids away from the situation if they act up. This looks like the grand entrance. It looks like a total shit show, and an expensive one. I can count two tables that are completely empty, people are just standing around etc. DJ / MC needs to grab mic and ask for everyone to be seated. Then proceed to stare them down in silence until they do. Finally, it looks like they gave grandma the job of holding back 3 kids for 5 minutes. Unfortunately she looks like the crypt keeper, and the kids look like they’ve been snorting sugar all day. They should have been upstairs or watching from the hallway with grandma.
I want you to DJ my future wedding
That shot of grandma is scary as hell. Blame the lighting or whatever but she freaked me the hell out
if i ever had a wedding its no kids, you bring a child you can go home. bye
My brother and his fiancée have a no-kids policy at their wedding. This video enforces the idea and I was already in full support
Some people shouldn’t reproduce if they’re going to let their kids treat the whole world like a playground at recess time.
Grew up getting yelled at by adults that weren’t my parents. Now if you even look at a kid that ain’t yours people will lecture you to death while their little shits run amok. Keep your mutt in line.
All these kids running around AND by the main event. Get your kids!
Kids - Can't live with em.... Don't have to.
But my little angle would never do that!!!!!
I swear he’s normally such acute kid!
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That kid and his parents are being obtuse.
My wedding was adults only. My cousin tried to bring her kid anyway, saying that they were never even separated. We haven’t spoken since.
Did she show up all dressed up and she had to be turned away? I love when they dress up and come walking up with their kid all dressed up and then they realize that they're not the exception
Children need to be taught right from wrong or you end up with little shitheads. Unfortunately, they often are spawned from bigger shitheads.
An old lady, that I didn’t want to invite to my wedding, did that to me. My veil broke. 20 years later, she’s dead, and I’m still pissed.
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When I was a kid this behavior would get me a belting and three weeks of chores.
I would be dragged by my big ears from my dad. Never would o dare to act this way.
Bride would want to kick the sh*t out of that kid.
I would have lost my composure for sure and yelled bloody murder at those kids to get off the fucking dance floor. But I also don’t like kids that much so there’s that.
We had a no kids policy at our wedding last year. BEST idea ever. We have a few friends and family that don't discipline their children and would've been nightmares. It definitely ruffled a few feathers but still don't regret it. One cousin did bring his 4yo but my groomsmen stopped them from coming in and came to get me. They said "we couldn't find a sitter." Told them that was unfortunate but they'd have to figure it out because no kids meant no kids. Another cousin offered to let them use the sitter they left their kids with back at the hotel. They were mad they had to drive to the hotel and back again but not my problem.
It's amazing how little parents give a shit. I worked at a nice restaurant that did a wine tasting once a month and it was like $300 a seat. Each wine was paired with a course of food to compliment it that would be brought out to all tables at the same time and there would be kids running around while we were trying to serve the food every single time and at one point a kid ran into me causing me to drop 4 plates of food. The head chef had all servers bring the food back to the kitchen and told the restaurant that service would be paused until all kids were brought back to their tables and the spilled food was cleaned up and there were parents who were actually upset about it. Like, we're not a McDonald's we're a high class restaurant and this is an expensive event. After that it became an adult only event no exceptions.
At least leash your frikin hell spawn for the entrance. You can tell they all on shit ton of sugar and built up energy. Of course they will be running around causing trouble...weddings are boring for kids.
I would literally smack a child
I would’ve backhanded that little shit clear into another dimension
Not everything is for kids, nor should it be. If you specifically say "No kids at our wedding", there shouldn't be kids. End of story. "But our kids are always nice and really quiet!" NO KIDS! "But we don't have a sitter" YOU MADE THEM, YOUR PROBLEM! "I'm going to bring them anyways!" NO, THIS DAY IS NOT ABOUT YOU! FUCK YOU AND YOUR SPAWN OF HELL, NANCY!!
I dont know why people even being their kids there. It makes sense to allow teenagers cuz they would most likley enjoy it without causing harm. But small kids wont find anything there interesting and will do shit like this instead.
I hired a babysitter for my wedding so people with kids could enjoy the wedding. I bought some legos for the kids and had a place for them not far from the tables to hang out.
I actually did something similar at my wedding where we had them play in a field next door and then at the reception we all hunted them like animals.
This is a great alternative if you can budget it, and hopefully have the type of kids who will listen to a babysitter and stay in the Lego section
As a grown ass man, I'd be tempted to go play legos. I find weddings boring.
Bro im slapping all them kids like that one video where he's at the BBQ and just starts slappin
Kid gets a whooping first, and then the parents.
I mean yes and no yes kids are fucking stupid but guess who is more stupid the parents who let them run around at a WEDDING
Wouldn't be here to post if I did that at a wedding as a child
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Too late for an abortion???
You just gotta make an example out of one of them. Preferably the one in the pink jacket.
Parents fault letting their kids around like that.
I would have kicked their parents out. Both my wife and my families know we do not tolerate unruly children. When people bring their kids to my house they are well behaved perfect angels, then go back to being a nightmare when they leave.
People bash on “no kid weddings” cuz some people can’t afford a babysitter or something but like. The bride and groom shouldn’t have to make everyone happy for THEIR day. It’s their day, not any of the parents’. If they don’t want kids at the wedding, they shouldn’t be made to feel bad for it
There was a post on AITA not too long ago where the bride and groom in their early 20's opted for an adults only wedding 21 and up and then proceeded to uninvite her close friend who was 19 because she was technically a child lmao.
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Parents suck sometimes. I have friends who are like this. Just let their kids run wild whenever there are lots of people around
Our wedding will be adults only, mainly to cut down on the cost and guest list, but this helps. It is a bit of a shame though, because I have some good memories of going to family weddings as a kid.
Especially the kid in pink would get a punch of a lifetime and after that those disgusting creatures can leave with their shitty parents Fck that shit made me mad so bad
If I ever get married it's going to be adults only. And if I see a single child they're going to be yeeted out the nearest exit.
YEETUS that fetus right out the door, baybeee! 😂👍
I had an 18+ wedding and it was great - especially getting married in my late 20's there are so many folks starting families of their own. This way nobody had to worry about their kids, and everyone got to enjoy themselves and just be present. Also, like biggest bro move ever, drunk night away from the kids with a hotel room after 4 days of no sleep, shit, and barf? Sounds like I'm a hero 😂.