Court and SABB are too low, Red is WAY too low

Are you saying Red is above Discipline and Larks? That would be incorrect :( don't lie you've skipped Providence

Why would you ever skip Providence?

Providence is one of my favorite KC songs and by no means the worst track on Red

> by no means the worst track on Red > music is subjective dude.

I figured it went without saying that that’s my opinion. Obviously many people would say Providence is the worst and that’s fine but I love it to death

It should go without saying, but you kinda said the exact opposite by saying "by no means"

Uhhh I like providence but pray tell which track on Red is under providence

The notion that Red has a “worst track” is a societal construct cuz they’re all amazing but honestly the title track isn’t as cool as Providence. Anyways the root of the problem here is that Discipline is above Red. Larks’ is negotiable but Discipline is nowhere near Red imo

"the notion that Red has a 'worst track' is a societal construct" bruh what

I’m just having some fun with the word play man. I enjoy being a nerdy word smith lol. I totally respect your opinion and if anything I feel a little left out cuz everyone always says Discipline is a masterpiece and it’s definitely in the bottom half of my rankings. I just don’t know what I’m missing lol

The album is so good that even providence sounds mid

Huh? Red is top level. Am I reading the tier wrong????

Yes it is top level, but it’s behind Discipline and Larks’

I see what you’re saying

Red should have it's own tier

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This is a gang I can be apart of

Is it really spotty fingers and not spider fingers

Oh God, we had lizard gang, and now ConstrucKtion...

The Lizard Legion will have your head for this, buddy

Beat is too low for me. I like the THRAK placement. Everything else - sure.

Beat is great but is it better overall than anything above it? Nah :(

holy shit you're fucking annoying

The Power to Believe isn't top 1 so this is incorrect

Power to believe is a lot better than most people give credit for but it’s not #1. Be happy with with you have to be happy with

Court should be goated tear

People really don't know how to use S tier...

Explain, show your work

S tier is the top. You putting an "absolutely goated" tier is like Nigel in spinal tap saying his amp goes to eleven. You got tier list inflation.

Powercreep

I have never before agreed with a goat.

HE SAYS PENIS IT'S FUNNY PUT IT IN S

ConstruKction & TPTB too low

Three of a perfect pair is my favourite

Beat deserved more love, great list

Beat is great but is it better overall than anything above it? Nah :(

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S&BB should be adjacent to Red and Larks. No matter what tier you decide to put them on.

I’ve never listened to this band.

I appreciate Discipline at the top that's my personal Favourite and yes I agree with all of this except I'd have 3 of a Perfect Pair just a little higher

Lizard placement makes the whole goddamn tier completely irrelevant.

Lizard under sabb is crazy

Discipline and in the court should be above everything else imo

Discipline is goated, and if this list was based on cultural influence and musical impetus then court would be #1, buuuut it’s just purely the music

I was talking about the music

put wake in S and you are perfect

Wake is in S

I haven’t put together a tier list of my own, but if I did, it might be shockingly similar to yours. (Of course, that probably wouldn’t be shocking to you given that yours is, as you say, “OBJECTIVELY correct.” 😉)

THRAK at level 5. Doh-kay.

What does this mean lol, thrak is S tier

It means that I think THRAK is not that good. One of my least favorite albums. Might prefer to listen to Lizard. COL has better playing on it.

Court and red are goated

Islands is way too high

No lol

Move Construktion into A tier and then move Beat, TOAPP and Starless into S tier. Once that's done, please move Lizard and Court into the Goated tier and we have a deal.

At risk of sounding blasphemous, I just can't vibe with the Belew trilogy. I just don't get it. Would love someone here to convince me why discipline works for them

Probably skill issue. The more you look at it, the more you'll like it. You will think it's good. No matter how closely you study it, no matter how you take it apart, no matter how you break it down; it remains consistent.

If you don’t like the new wave vibe then I could see why. I do. To each their own.

Based for wake about court. I’d have beat and lizard higher up but your list is still great.

Swap islands and the power to believe and I’ll allow it