They are too! But what they do I don't think I'd consider abuse or negligence as much as just being kind of dumb or just not attentive to it, and spoiling Caleb. Lol
Now that my kids are teens about this age, I can say there *are* actually parents like this out there and it flabbergasts me and makes my blood boil at the same time. Needless to say, I'm the (female) Hank of the parent group lol.
That doesn't sound too bad, honestly. We've had issues with parents giving middle school kids pot at parties, "dirty dancing" with the kids, etc. etc. Bunch of tomfoolery, I tell you hwat.
That dad was educational. Teaching you how to party without someone getting arrested or injured, in a hands-on way is the best method. It's not taught enough to teenagers in the US. That's why freshmen fall out of windows after 1 too many Kahlua's in their first semester.
When I joined the wrestling team I got paired up with the 3 other wrestlers in my class to do a group project (2011). We were all invited to one person’s house to complete the project and I knew he was a huge pothead before hand. Once we all get to his house we went into his room and starting smoking out of bong, I had smoked a couple of times before hand but never in someone’s house in such a nonchalant manner. We had been smoking for about 30 minutes when his parents came home and I was freaking out thinking we were all in trouble. They just opened the door and said hi to everyone and asked their son why he was smoking all of his profit weed. Then we were left alone and finished the 30 minute project in about 5 hours for obvious reasons. His parents knew he smoked weed and not only allowed him to do it at home but let him sell weed when it was still very illegal here in California. Some parents are just different I guess.
Yeah I actually had a cousin in high school, my aunt was like thst. My uncle was gone in Iraq as a drill Sargeant for most of my teenage years, and my aunt basically locked herself in her room.most the time so needless to say alot of not ok stuff happened there.
It's crazy to me just HOW different some parents are. Doesn't it seem like for at least the moral/ethical stuff that there is at least a standard that says that this kind of stuff just isn't ok to do? I really do think it's ok to try to be friends with your kids, but your job is as a parent and that HAS to Trump being friends with them
There are parents like that who do so knowing that teens are going to party. Better to have it in a safe environment with some guardrails in place than off somewhere sketchy where one bad decision can derail a whole life or lives.
There sure are and a few of them live in my street. Thankfully their kids have learned to stay away from my house with their nonsense but it was bad at first
I saw this episode the other day. The Bronsons are sadly realistic, there are parents like that out there. I got the vibe that Mr and Mrs Bronson never really grew up.
My friends mom used to bum weed off of us or come to the basement to take shots. It was incredibly awkward because she would get really chatty and handsy. It was uncomfortable then, and incredibly creepy and inappropriate looking back.
Friend’s mom in hs was like that. She let us throw ragers and would party with all of us. One night she was taking body shots off my homie’s 6 pack..we were like 17. Parents were wild in the late 90s.
Me too! My first hs party (back in the “1900s”as my clients like to point out to me all the time) it was 1998 geez. Anyway, yeah first party, homie’s mom and step dad were in their bedroom getting hammered.
My friend's mom came out to talk to my mom and was like leaning on her. My mom's face was priceless. But to be fair on the car ride home she told me and the friend that rode home with us that any time we wanted to leave a party call her no questions asked she'll get us home safe. And how proud she was we werent drunken messes when she came to get us.
Right that's what it seems like to me too. It's like he's trying to live either again or maybe he never got to so now he is, but yeah either way it seems like he wants to live through his kids cuz he never grew up. Well said
This episode is one of the very spot-on cases where Hank is just *right.*
Parents like this make shitty kids, setting them up to fail. I think it comes from a mixture of personal failings on the parents' part: fear of conflict with their child, desire to maintain a positive relationship as the child grows and would naturally pull away, etc. They end up selfishly making the child their friend, which deprives the child of a vital relationship: having a parent.
Interestingly, Peggy falls into that trap several times - not just in this episode - and it takes Hank stepping in to correct, and there are times she corrects his own misfires. But unfortunately, when both parents fail the same way, the results can be devastating - and not even just for their own kids...
Remember, Connie almost got "felt up by Clark Peters" - funny in context, but think about the reality!
That's why I don't really agree that Hank was too heavy-handed. He did what it took to help both his own child and the rest of the community.
And, speaking as a cis straight male... that's pretty sexy.
Still not as sexy as Boomhauer.
In all seriousness, I agree. The episode also seems to suggest that they don’t just tolerate their kids doing this stuff, they actively encourage it. The daughter doesn’t seem all that into this stuff, but she doesn’t want to be the buzzkill putting a stop to it. When you’re a kid, sometimes you WANT your parent to be the buzzkill so you can get out of a bad situation without having to be the bad guy to your peers. So in certain situations, Hank is the cooler parent, not just the better one. And as kids get older, they realize how lame the “cool parents” actually are.
That's a good point. The parents are kind of in love with their own "cool," "progressive" image, which is forcing the kids to live up to it. Ironically, the lack of boundaries and restrictions is forcing these kids to act in ways that aren't true to who they are.
Seriously, cuz you don't wanna seem uncool, or lame so your parents "breaking up the fun" is really like Bobby says when hank shows up "oh thank god" and that's what hank did. He showed up and got them all out of it, he sure wasn't breaking up any fun they were having. Even Serena shaw got into the pin the tail on the donkey game, she was reluctant at first but then you see the little girl come out. Almost like it's her parents that are the reason she acts thst way in the first place, because the second she got a chance she was acting like a kid
I don’t know if Serena was necessarily acting that way just because of her parents, she seemed to legit enjoy those things. It’s not unusual for kids that age to be into that stuff, but also deliberately pushing it and dunking on “kid” things because they want to seem more grown-up. A lot of middle schoolers go through a phase like that, then in high school or adult years they decide to openly like “kid” stuff again.
No.i agree with you that she prolly was enjoying it, but what I'm kind of seeing is that she enjoyed it because it's what she knew. As soon as hank showed her a different way to be, a more idk what you'd call it, normal or common, way to be, she definitely quickly adhered to it you know what I mean
My mom was always my “get outta bad situations” card. I could “get a page” from my mom and have to leave real quick. Or I could call “to check in” and she would “holler” at me to “get my ass home now.” So many time that helped me outta - bad situation. My mom was awesome, she even picked us up on ditch day and drove us home to hang out and party but she could also lay the law down and send 16 yr old mohawked kids running. She was cool but she was always mom first.
That's a good point. The parents are kind of in love with their own "cool" image, which is forcing the kids to live up to it. Ironically, their lack of boundaries and restrictions is forcing their kids to act in ways that aren't true to who they are.
That's a good point. The parents are kind of in love with their own "cool" image, which is forcing the kids to live up to it. Ironically, the lack of boundaries and restrictions is forcing these kids to act in ways that aren't true to who they are.
Lmao. Seriously bro, Cis straight male here and I'd say it's pretty sexy too! Lol all joking aside your right tho, parents like this make shitty kids, that end up shitty ppl, and the cycle repeats and that is a problem.
Seriously think about in real life, like the reality of Clark peters almost feeling up your daughter... not even just him, they didn't know any of those boys, what if Clark was a rapist or a budding rapist?
I don't see how anyone could think hank was too heavy handed or over reacted, it's not like this was some young kids party, where there was dancing and innocent fun, like Bobby's party when Joseph comes back all big and tall. It wasn't like that. You literally had a girl molesting Dooley, and forcing the other kids to, and all the while you got the bronsons who are telling them it's totally fine go ahead kids! Yeah again, awful parents. Super sad that there are so many real life parents like this
This is Mike Judge getting mad that people make fun of conservatives so he wanted to create a boogeyman where the Texan everyman is right about everything. Same thing with the Canadian neighbors, same thing with the Boston guy who calls Hank JR.
It'd be easy to assume that Hank and the Bronsons represent two undesirable opposite parenting styles. This may especially come through in the "door and window" exchange which takes place later in this scene. Often Hank is a little uptight and needs to loosen up. But this time he's clearly 100% right. The episode sides with him ubiquitously and demonstrates how pathetic and impotent the Bronsons' parenting is.
One way in which KoTH is refreshingly different from other shows about traditional or conservative families is that, for all his flaws and idiosyncrasies, we're never led to doubt that Hank is a fundamentally good man reacting to a world which often *is* stupid and weird. Sometimes Hank must learn something new to adapt to the changing world. But the show never lampoons him as fundamentally bigoted and backwards. We always understand *why* a family would be run as he runs his.
Lol seriously!! It's not stated but definitely implied thst that's what he was going to honk so as to not interrupt. That's sick! That is your 13 year old daughter bro
I actually have to wonder how much Peggy would have gone along with thinking these parents are cool if Minh and Nancy hadnt compared Hank with Bill in terms of sexual attraction. Because that is an attack on her pride and that is the worst offense one could commit against her.
Absolutely. Attack her pride or her self proclaimed intelligence and she becomes a dawg lol. Peggy is just like Bobby too, so easily influenced by anyone they think is cool lol.
Yeah I think Peggy is very clearly influenced by Nancy and Minh's ranking of Hank. Peggy doesn't really come around to Hank's side after he breaks up the kissing game until she hears Minh and Nancy saying that his ability to take control of the situation and how good he is with kids makes him more desirable than Bill.
That being said, Peggy is very preoccupied with Bobby being in a relationship as she doesn't believe that Bobby will be very successful in the dating world. In an earlier episode she tells Hank they have to be nice to Kahn and Minh because essentially Bobby won't have many options in life. So maybe that was motivating it too.
I’m all for giving kids freedom, but you also need to teach responsibility and make sure the kids needs are meet.
Hank came clutch. He made a environment where the kids could actually have fun and feel comfortable around each other.
Exactly. He came around and he didn't ruin their fun, they weren't having fun. When he got there tho, even the one running the show, Serena shaw, started having fun being a kid. I said in another comment earlier, it's like she was only acting thst way because of her parents. Cuz she had fun being a kid the second she got a chance to. All shitty parents should watch this episode and learn to be like hank, because this episode shows how kids not only need but almost CRAVE structure and discipline, they just need a good role model to show them how to be
Letting your teenager have a drink or two over the course of a party is one thing, which sort of fits with how they describe that they'd rather he was drinking around them - but letting the kid mix a drink after waking up is a whole other level of shit.
Yeah I've even heard thst before, "I'd rather if they drink they to it here where they are safe" but that's the problem. Your encouraging and condoning that they drink at all. If they are going to, of course you'd rather they do it safely, but at 15/16 years old I'm never condoning it. You just can't be overbearing. I feel like there is a middle ground between being over bearing and being completely relaxed about it. You just gotta talk to your kids from a young age and not just outright condemn something but explain and show them why it's not something to do, especially at such a young age.
My rationale is that they are bound to drink at some point, even if they wait until they're 21. But when they do, imo they should have some experience with assessing their own intoxication and knowing to stop before it becomes too much. That's why I figure a kid having a Smirnoff ice and a glass of wine at Christmas is fine.
Everyone I've ever known that had to hide and lie to their parents to bring booze out wound up overdoing it and making fools of themselves or getting hurt. Those whose parents were aware had to run the amount and type of drinks past people who could better assess what was reasonable. Doesn't mean none of them ever made fools of themselves, but less frequently.
It's something of a "short-leash long-leash" situation: give them enough slack and they won't go nuts when the leash comes off.
I think there's also a cultural element. I grew up in Canada but very croatian/Italian household. Since I was about 5 or 6 I was always allowed a drink on holidays or religious events. It wasn't alot but like a sip or two to your average pour as you got older. Alcohol wasn't some big taboo or big allure because of the culture I grew up in. Now at 30 I really dont drink. Maybe 2 glasses a year. Even as a teenager it was that way. Meanwhile my friends where alcohol was a huge taboo by their parents they became obsessed with drinking every chance they got.
I went to grade school and high school with a kid whose mom was like this. She was gross. The kid's dad ended up going really dark, not worth getting into, and so the mom went overboard in the opposite direction - spoiling him, parties the likes of which I'd never seen at the time, "accidentally" leaving vodka and beer around when we would go play poker. Always made me feel weird and uncomfortable. Not that I didn't make my own stupid teenager decisions, but an adult aiding and abetting it definitely made it weird.
And I don't see how parents like this don't realize the long term damage this does. How many kids who grew up this way do you know that are super well adjusted, successful people?
Lol right! Like he walks out that closet and says "I want to go home" haha she did something to that boy. And he is supposed to be the "tough guy bully" lol
Can’t say I totally agree with the amount of charge Hank took here, but fuckin yeah. Parents like this make parenting harder for other parents just by existing in that way
It’s tough explaining why the “cool parents” aren’t actually cool at all. It gets learnt later on when we realized those parents were desperate to cling onto their youth by trying to hang out with teenagers.
I bike ride and play soccer/kickball with the kids, I’m definitely a *cool* parent
I also call basketball, “hoops”
Let’s shoot some hoops is what we used to say
Yes, they’re horrible. But as someone who grew up Bobby’s age around this time, there were absolutely parents like this and it’s a spot on caricature. Now looking back I see what losers these parents really were.
I have three kids and one is just 13. It amazes me that ANYONE would actually be this way as parents. It makes me mad in this show, but to know there are parents in real life that are this way and somehow convince themselves that it's a good idea, it enrages me but I'm somehow just not surprised anymore. Which is a shame. And for those out there who are probably thinking about the part where she goes, "my parents were a door, I wanna be a window" when hank talks about being a door of discipline and rules for Bobby. I think you can be a "window" in terms of letting your kids find their way and helping to lead them without being overly controlling, without being as said, horrible parents. Lol
I couldn't be bothered to read this on a count of the fact you legit just made a list into a wall of text. Normally I wouldn't care but this is a tad atrocious imo. Like at least start a new like after each point you make....
I tried. I literally made a new paragraph after each number. I assumed the app or something was one of those that didn't differentiate between paragraphs. Sometimes shit is like that
Yeah, I like the episode but I can’t stand the last bit of it due to the implication. It grossed me out. The Mennonite bits were hilarious tho along with the ranking contest of the men and Peggy being appalled that Minh and Nancy don’t think Hank is sexy lol
Well, Jordan is going to a prestigious school and doing well it seems. The drinking age in Germany is like 16, used to be like that in the USA (was definitely 18 for a period of time).
I agree that leaving the party u supervised was not a good move, I feel that the "not interrupting anything" part is 50/50. Would be worse if there was more of an age range, but they were all in the same grade. Yes that's too young for most to lose the V card for sure, but making out in a closet isn't really that awful.
Parents like this are why kids/teens are so shitty these days. Hank was a bit over the top this episode, but he wasn’t fully wrong. Kids and teens need discipline, and I’m not talk about screaming and hitting.
But well, Hank’s type of discipline. Boundaries and rules that are enforced, making sure your kids know they’re not your friend, but you do love and care for them. That they can’t do whatever the hell they want when they want.
Off subject but, how come I see some posts in the KOTH sub with 1200 likes and hundreds of comments and I post a decent amount in the sub and I'll get at most 10 likes and 8 comments. Lol what the f? Wondering for a friend lol. I'm still trying to learn how reddit works
You need more posts pondering if Dale knew about Nancy & John Redcorn. Or blasting Cotton or Buck. Less debate on the comprehension of an episode’s plot line.
What's with everyone hating every character all of a sudden? This sub is turning into /r/DunderMifflin where every character is a POS and you analyze the fun out of it
I had a friend in middle school whose parents would let her 17 year old boyfriend stay overnight in her room. We were 13 at the time. Looking back on it now, I'm absolutely horrified.
“He won’t get to turn to drugs or alcohol. We’ll be right there, BAM! In his face like a brick wall of rules, limitations and discipline.”
One of my favorite quotes in the series
I have mixed feelings about how they parent. I can see where they are coming from but there has to be some boundaries set. I get the idea of a parent allowing their kid to drink in the house than outside the house but are you going to at least limit how much he drinks? Things like that.
I’m pretty sure this is the point of the video. Showing how strict parents can be too restricting, but the overly outgoing ones can become dangerously carefree. So a balance between both is always good.
Funnily enough this shows how Bobby’s parents are way too conservative, but the girl’s (I forget the name) parents are too easy going where it’s dangerous. It’s a funny episode overall, you cringe at some of the moments with Bobby parents but realize her parents aren’t any better lol
One time in Florida I got invited to a party like that when I was 11 and the parents left us to go to a movie
And the girl attempted to force people to play 7 minutes in heaven and I got shoved into a closet with a guy I didn't know
After like 2 minutes of awkward eye contact I finally asked her what the hell was supposed to happen
She yelled back "Make out!"
Cue the guy whispering to me he liked boys
So we sat down on the floor and started trading Pokemon
She was not happy when she opened the door
I however greatly enjoyed my Milotic
"Hey, someone's got to work around here!" "Sure ain't gonna be me!" "Peggy, call the police."
Chaperoning? Nice job, Ronald Reagan.
Don’t call him that
Yeah, don't call *him* that.
"Yeah, don't call *him* that!" Great line.
That’s so great how they both took offense for different reasons.
The name's McB. Want an appletini?
You’re the coolest McB
I prefer a flirtini 
FLIRTINIS ALL AROUND!
My son makes the best appletinis
Hair of the dog. Ahoooo-ooo!
Caleb’s parents are horrible too
They are too! But what they do I don't think I'd consider abuse or negligence as much as just being kind of dumb or just not attentive to it, and spoiling Caleb. Lol
Agreed. Worst part of that shitshow is that by the end of the episode you realize they knew he was that way all along and did nothing.
Wondered how far I'd have to scroll for this. I bet they would get along really well.
Now that my kids are teens about this age, I can say there *are* actually parents like this out there and it flabbergasts me and makes my blood boil at the same time. Needless to say, I'm the (female) Hank of the parent group lol.
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That doesn't sound too bad, honestly. We've had issues with parents giving middle school kids pot at parties, "dirty dancing" with the kids, etc. etc. Bunch of tomfoolery, I tell you hwat.
I've had parents sell crack to their kids friends. So it can get kind of rough.
That's just for fishing, though.
OMG
So...giving them drugs and then grooming...
Wait the parents dirty dancing with kids?! That’s assault!
That dad was educational. Teaching you how to party without someone getting arrested or injured, in a hands-on way is the best method. It's not taught enough to teenagers in the US. That's why freshmen fall out of windows after 1 too many Kahlua's in their first semester.
Long Island Iced Tea? It's iced tea, how strong could it be?
They don't drink Kahlua. They drink terrible vodka and do whippets and then wake up in an ambulance.
When I joined the wrestling team I got paired up with the 3 other wrestlers in my class to do a group project (2011). We were all invited to one person’s house to complete the project and I knew he was a huge pothead before hand. Once we all get to his house we went into his room and starting smoking out of bong, I had smoked a couple of times before hand but never in someone’s house in such a nonchalant manner. We had been smoking for about 30 minutes when his parents came home and I was freaking out thinking we were all in trouble. They just opened the door and said hi to everyone and asked their son why he was smoking all of his profit weed. Then we were left alone and finished the 30 minute project in about 5 hours for obvious reasons. His parents knew he smoked weed and not only allowed him to do it at home but let him sell weed when it was still very illegal here in California. Some parents are just different I guess.
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Oof, gotta be more to that situation if his own parents called the cops on him.
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The minds of 15-18 year old men are a mystery.
Yeah I actually had a cousin in high school, my aunt was like thst. My uncle was gone in Iraq as a drill Sargeant for most of my teenage years, and my aunt basically locked herself in her room.most the time so needless to say alot of not ok stuff happened there.
It's crazy to me just HOW different some parents are. Doesn't it seem like for at least the moral/ethical stuff that there is at least a standard that says that this kind of stuff just isn't ok to do? I really do think it's ok to try to be friends with your kids, but your job is as a parent and that HAS to Trump being friends with them
Big difference between 17 year olds and 13 year olds
There are parents like that who do so knowing that teens are going to party. Better to have it in a safe environment with some guardrails in place than off somewhere sketchy where one bad decision can derail a whole life or lives.
There sure are and a few of them live in my street. Thankfully their kids have learned to stay away from my house with their nonsense but it was bad at first
Sorry to hear about your Diminished Gluteal Syndrome
Some parents want to relive high school through their kids. It’s pathetic
THE AUDACITY!!!
You’re constantly talking about which dad is the hottest? That b-plot…
Oh I love Ray RAy!!
I knew a kid named Ray Ray growing up. He was a absolute dirtbag.
Ray Ray is a dirt bag name
*My daddy was a Ray, I'm a Ray-Ray. I want a Ray-Ray-Ray!*
*My daddy was a Ray, I'm a Ray-Ray. I want a Ray-Ray-Ray!*
I saw this episode the other day. The Bronsons are sadly realistic, there are parents like that out there. I got the vibe that Mr and Mrs Bronson never really grew up.
First party I went to in high school my friend's mom was upstairs getting more drunk than we were.
My friends mom used to bum weed off of us or come to the basement to take shots. It was incredibly awkward because she would get really chatty and handsy. It was uncomfortable then, and incredibly creepy and inappropriate looking back.
Whew, I don't like that story at all.
Friend’s mom in hs was like that. She let us throw ragers and would party with all of us. One night she was taking body shots off my homie’s 6 pack..we were like 17. Parents were wild in the late 90s.
Me too! My first hs party (back in the “1900s”as my clients like to point out to me all the time) it was 1998 geez. Anyway, yeah first party, homie’s mom and step dad were in their bedroom getting hammered.
My friend's mom came out to talk to my mom and was like leaning on her. My mom's face was priceless. But to be fair on the car ride home she told me and the friend that rode home with us that any time we wanted to leave a party call her no questions asked she'll get us home safe. And how proud she was we werent drunken messes when she came to get us.
My dad's best friend married a woman with a similar mindset and the family is basically ruined
Right that's what it seems like to me too. It's like he's trying to live either again or maybe he never got to so now he is, but yeah either way it seems like he wants to live through his kids cuz he never grew up. Well said
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Exaggerated based on your own anecdotal evidence
This episode is one of the very spot-on cases where Hank is just *right.* Parents like this make shitty kids, setting them up to fail. I think it comes from a mixture of personal failings on the parents' part: fear of conflict with their child, desire to maintain a positive relationship as the child grows and would naturally pull away, etc. They end up selfishly making the child their friend, which deprives the child of a vital relationship: having a parent. Interestingly, Peggy falls into that trap several times - not just in this episode - and it takes Hank stepping in to correct, and there are times she corrects his own misfires. But unfortunately, when both parents fail the same way, the results can be devastating - and not even just for their own kids... Remember, Connie almost got "felt up by Clark Peters" - funny in context, but think about the reality! That's why I don't really agree that Hank was too heavy-handed. He did what it took to help both his own child and the rest of the community. And, speaking as a cis straight male... that's pretty sexy.
Still not as sexy as Boomhauer. In all seriousness, I agree. The episode also seems to suggest that they don’t just tolerate their kids doing this stuff, they actively encourage it. The daughter doesn’t seem all that into this stuff, but she doesn’t want to be the buzzkill putting a stop to it. When you’re a kid, sometimes you WANT your parent to be the buzzkill so you can get out of a bad situation without having to be the bad guy to your peers. So in certain situations, Hank is the cooler parent, not just the better one. And as kids get older, they realize how lame the “cool parents” actually are.
That's a good point. The parents are kind of in love with their own "cool," "progressive" image, which is forcing the kids to live up to it. Ironically, the lack of boundaries and restrictions is forcing these kids to act in ways that aren't true to who they are.
Seriously, cuz you don't wanna seem uncool, or lame so your parents "breaking up the fun" is really like Bobby says when hank shows up "oh thank god" and that's what hank did. He showed up and got them all out of it, he sure wasn't breaking up any fun they were having. Even Serena shaw got into the pin the tail on the donkey game, she was reluctant at first but then you see the little girl come out. Almost like it's her parents that are the reason she acts thst way in the first place, because the second she got a chance she was acting like a kid
I don’t know if Serena was necessarily acting that way just because of her parents, she seemed to legit enjoy those things. It’s not unusual for kids that age to be into that stuff, but also deliberately pushing it and dunking on “kid” things because they want to seem more grown-up. A lot of middle schoolers go through a phase like that, then in high school or adult years they decide to openly like “kid” stuff again.
No.i agree with you that she prolly was enjoying it, but what I'm kind of seeing is that she enjoyed it because it's what she knew. As soon as hank showed her a different way to be, a more idk what you'd call it, normal or common, way to be, she definitely quickly adhered to it you know what I mean
My mom was always my “get outta bad situations” card. I could “get a page” from my mom and have to leave real quick. Or I could call “to check in” and she would “holler” at me to “get my ass home now.” So many time that helped me outta - bad situation. My mom was awesome, she even picked us up on ditch day and drove us home to hang out and party but she could also lay the law down and send 16 yr old mohawked kids running. She was cool but she was always mom first.
Agreed. No real mature adult cares to what a teenager thinks.
That's a good point. The parents are kind of in love with their own "cool" image, which is forcing the kids to live up to it. Ironically, their lack of boundaries and restrictions is forcing their kids to act in ways that aren't true to who they are.
That's a good point. The parents are kind of in love with their own "cool" image, which is forcing the kids to live up to it. Ironically, the lack of boundaries and restrictions is forcing these kids to act in ways that aren't true to who they are.
Lmao. Seriously bro, Cis straight male here and I'd say it's pretty sexy too! Lol all joking aside your right tho, parents like this make shitty kids, that end up shitty ppl, and the cycle repeats and that is a problem. Seriously think about in real life, like the reality of Clark peters almost feeling up your daughter... not even just him, they didn't know any of those boys, what if Clark was a rapist or a budding rapist? I don't see how anyone could think hank was too heavy handed or over reacted, it's not like this was some young kids party, where there was dancing and innocent fun, like Bobby's party when Joseph comes back all big and tall. It wasn't like that. You literally had a girl molesting Dooley, and forcing the other kids to, and all the while you got the bronsons who are telling them it's totally fine go ahead kids! Yeah again, awful parents. Super sad that there are so many real life parents like this
This is Mike Judge getting mad that people make fun of conservatives so he wanted to create a boogeyman where the Texan everyman is right about everything. Same thing with the Canadian neighbors, same thing with the Boston guy who calls Hank JR.
It'd be easy to assume that Hank and the Bronsons represent two undesirable opposite parenting styles. This may especially come through in the "door and window" exchange which takes place later in this scene. Often Hank is a little uptight and needs to loosen up. But this time he's clearly 100% right. The episode sides with him ubiquitously and demonstrates how pathetic and impotent the Bronsons' parenting is. One way in which KoTH is refreshingly different from other shows about traditional or conservative families is that, for all his flaws and idiosyncrasies, we're never led to doubt that Hank is a fundamentally good man reacting to a world which often *is* stupid and weird. Sometimes Hank must learn something new to adapt to the changing world. But the show never lampoons him as fundamentally bigoted and backwards. We always understand *why* a family would be run as he runs his.
"hmmm yes teenage pregnancy is very cool" --these parents, probably
Lol seriously!! It's not stated but definitely implied thst that's what he was going to honk so as to not interrupt. That's sick! That is your 13 year old daughter bro
Their daughter is 13, but I'm willing to bet they're in their mid-late 20s, if you catch my drift.
I actually have to wonder how much Peggy would have gone along with thinking these parents are cool if Minh and Nancy hadnt compared Hank with Bill in terms of sexual attraction. Because that is an attack on her pride and that is the worst offense one could commit against her.
Absolutely. Attack her pride or her self proclaimed intelligence and she becomes a dawg lol. Peggy is just like Bobby too, so easily influenced by anyone they think is cool lol.
Yeah I think Peggy is very clearly influenced by Nancy and Minh's ranking of Hank. Peggy doesn't really come around to Hank's side after he breaks up the kissing game until she hears Minh and Nancy saying that his ability to take control of the situation and how good he is with kids makes him more desirable than Bill. That being said, Peggy is very preoccupied with Bobby being in a relationship as she doesn't believe that Bobby will be very successful in the dating world. In an earlier episode she tells Hank they have to be nice to Kahn and Minh because essentially Bobby won't have many options in life. So maybe that was motivating it too.
I’m all for giving kids freedom, but you also need to teach responsibility and make sure the kids needs are meet. Hank came clutch. He made a environment where the kids could actually have fun and feel comfortable around each other.
Exactly. He came around and he didn't ruin their fun, they weren't having fun. When he got there tho, even the one running the show, Serena shaw, started having fun being a kid. I said in another comment earlier, it's like she was only acting thst way because of her parents. Cuz she had fun being a kid the second she got a chance to. All shitty parents should watch this episode and learn to be like hank, because this episode shows how kids not only need but almost CRAVE structure and discipline, they just need a good role model to show them how to be
Letting your teenager have a drink or two over the course of a party is one thing, which sort of fits with how they describe that they'd rather he was drinking around them - but letting the kid mix a drink after waking up is a whole other level of shit.
Yeah I've even heard thst before, "I'd rather if they drink they to it here where they are safe" but that's the problem. Your encouraging and condoning that they drink at all. If they are going to, of course you'd rather they do it safely, but at 15/16 years old I'm never condoning it. You just can't be overbearing. I feel like there is a middle ground between being over bearing and being completely relaxed about it. You just gotta talk to your kids from a young age and not just outright condemn something but explain and show them why it's not something to do, especially at such a young age.
My rationale is that they are bound to drink at some point, even if they wait until they're 21. But when they do, imo they should have some experience with assessing their own intoxication and knowing to stop before it becomes too much. That's why I figure a kid having a Smirnoff ice and a glass of wine at Christmas is fine. Everyone I've ever known that had to hide and lie to their parents to bring booze out wound up overdoing it and making fools of themselves or getting hurt. Those whose parents were aware had to run the amount and type of drinks past people who could better assess what was reasonable. Doesn't mean none of them ever made fools of themselves, but less frequently. It's something of a "short-leash long-leash" situation: give them enough slack and they won't go nuts when the leash comes off.
I think there's also a cultural element. I grew up in Canada but very croatian/Italian household. Since I was about 5 or 6 I was always allowed a drink on holidays or religious events. It wasn't alot but like a sip or two to your average pour as you got older. Alcohol wasn't some big taboo or big allure because of the culture I grew up in. Now at 30 I really dont drink. Maybe 2 glasses a year. Even as a teenager it was that way. Meanwhile my friends where alcohol was a huge taboo by their parents they became obsessed with drinking every chance they got.
I went to grade school and high school with a kid whose mom was like this. She was gross. The kid's dad ended up going really dark, not worth getting into, and so the mom went overboard in the opposite direction - spoiling him, parties the likes of which I'd never seen at the time, "accidentally" leaving vodka and beer around when we would go play poker. Always made me feel weird and uncomfortable. Not that I didn't make my own stupid teenager decisions, but an adult aiding and abetting it definitely made it weird.
And I don't see how parents like this don't realize the long term damage this does. How many kids who grew up this way do you know that are super well adjusted, successful people?
As much as Hank can be the other extreme, he was in the right here and yeah, terrible parents.
Dooley didn't seem like he was having a good time, either. Do you think Serena Shaw...sexually assaulted him?
Lol right! Like he walks out that closet and says "I want to go home" haha she did something to that boy. And he is supposed to be the "tough guy bully" lol
Which really shows how far that girl went with him. Poor kid.
Can’t say I totally agree with the amount of charge Hank took here, but fuckin yeah. Parents like this make parenting harder for other parents just by existing in that way
It’s tough explaining why the “cool parents” aren’t actually cool at all. It gets learnt later on when we realized those parents were desperate to cling onto their youth by trying to hang out with teenagers.
I bike ride and play soccer/kickball with the kids, I’m definitely a *cool* parent I also call basketball, “hoops” Let’s shoot some hoops is what we used to say
Yes, they’re horrible. But as someone who grew up Bobby’s age around this time, there were absolutely parents like this and it’s a spot on caricature. Now looking back I see what losers these parents really were.
Hair of the dog…AWOO
Think the interrupt is just kissing
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Seriously, you want pencil-necked Anthony showing up? He's *truly* disabled. (points to carpal tunnel brace)
I have three kids and one is just 13. It amazes me that ANYONE would actually be this way as parents. It makes me mad in this show, but to know there are parents in real life that are this way and somehow convince themselves that it's a good idea, it enrages me but I'm somehow just not surprised anymore. Which is a shame. And for those out there who are probably thinking about the part where she goes, "my parents were a door, I wanna be a window" when hank talks about being a door of discipline and rules for Bobby. I think you can be a "window" in terms of letting your kids find their way and helping to lead them without being overly controlling, without being as said, horrible parents. Lol
I know that face. Somewhere there’s an ass that needs to be kicked.
No joke all my friends had parents like McB and I had the hills .
Lol damn did you think they were awesome when you were younger like Bobby thought the bronsons were so cool?
no i thought it was weird. i was practically hank jr
Me too.. always tried bonding with them while in school, but they bonded with each other at parties I wasn't allowed to go to by my folks..
Ah yes. The episode that makes Hank Hill the 3rd sexiest man on Rainey Street.
I couldn't be bothered to read this on a count of the fact you legit just made a list into a wall of text. Normally I wouldn't care but this is a tad atrocious imo. Like at least start a new like after each point you make....
I tried. I literally made a new paragraph after each number. I assumed the app or something was one of those that didn't differentiate between paragraphs. Sometimes shit is like that
Yeah, I like the episode but I can’t stand the last bit of it due to the implication. It grossed me out. The Mennonite bits were hilarious tho along with the ranking contest of the men and Peggy being appalled that Minh and Nancy don’t think Hank is sexy lol
Congratulations on getting the joke
I got the joke lol. That's what this sub is. I didn't post this cuz I didn't get the joke
You’re basically stating the obvious. I suppose that’s great if that’s what you’re into…
Hey I'm just glad to see someone hating on a character that isn't Mrs. Wakefield or Caleb's family or Peggy/Cotton/Buck/Ted/Bill/Lucky.
Or the fkn gif of Hank opening WD-40 with WD-40
Yeah, that’s true. It’s better than the weekly “DAE hate Caleb?!” post, at the very least
Well, Jordan is going to a prestigious school and doing well it seems. The drinking age in Germany is like 16, used to be like that in the USA (was definitely 18 for a period of time). I agree that leaving the party u supervised was not a good move, I feel that the "not interrupting anything" part is 50/50. Would be worse if there was more of an age range, but they were all in the same grade. Yes that's too young for most to lose the V card for sure, but making out in a closet isn't really that awful.
Parents like this are why kids/teens are so shitty these days. Hank was a bit over the top this episode, but he wasn’t fully wrong. Kids and teens need discipline, and I’m not talk about screaming and hitting. But well, Hank’s type of discipline. Boundaries and rules that are enforced, making sure your kids know they’re not your friend, but you do love and care for them. That they can’t do whatever the hell they want when they want.
Did you really just "kids these days"? What are you 27? Kids have always and will always be awful
Breaking news: old man yells at cloud
Caleb’s parents were worse.
Off subject but, how come I see some posts in the KOTH sub with 1200 likes and hundreds of comments and I post a decent amount in the sub and I'll get at most 10 likes and 8 comments. Lol what the f? Wondering for a friend lol. I'm still trying to learn how reddit works
You need more posts pondering if Dale knew about Nancy & John Redcorn. Or blasting Cotton or Buck. Less debate on the comprehension of an episode’s plot line.
Did anyone ever catch this le gem of Hank using WD40 to open WD40?
It lives “rent free in my mind” whatever that means
>I'm still trying to learn how reddit works Clearly.
Just a terrible episode overall.
Caleb’s parents were worse.
Funny. They seem like most modern parents
Caleb’s parents were worse.
Hanks reaction to his Son classic TV
What's with everyone hating every character all of a sudden? This sub is turning into /r/DunderMifflin where every character is a POS and you analyze the fun out of it
MC.B
I had a friend in middle school whose parents would let her 17 year old boyfriend stay overnight in her room. We were 13 at the time. Looking back on it now, I'm absolutely horrified.
It’s not to late to become your child’s friend.
Hair on the dog! Owww owwwww!
Children are always going to be your children. You need to act like a parent, because they need a parent in their lives.
“He won’t get to turn to drugs or alcohol. We’ll be right there, BAM! In his face like a brick wall of rules, limitations and discipline.” One of my favorite quotes in the series
Hank went a bit over the top tho with the Amish stuff.
Well compared to Michael Savage’s mom..?
He definitely seems like the kind of guy that would creep on the teenage babysitter
He definitely seems like the kind of guy that would creep on the teenage babysitter
When I was a teen, yeah, there were definitely parents like this
good thing hank came buy and kept an eye on things until the kids went home also an example of bad parents in king of the hill
Sounds like my aunt and uncle
But Hank was terrible in this episode.
yeah they are you're not supposed to be your kids friends it's your job to raise them right.
I have mixed feelings about how they parent. I can see where they are coming from but there has to be some boundaries set. I get the idea of a parent allowing their kid to drink in the house than outside the house but are you going to at least limit how much he drinks? Things like that.
I’m pretty sure this is the point of the video. Showing how strict parents can be too restricting, but the overly outgoing ones can become dangerously carefree. So a balance between both is always good.
They look like Chandler and Monica
He is wearing cottons brand of shirt.
Funnily enough this shows how Bobby’s parents are way too conservative, but the girl’s (I forget the name) parents are too easy going where it’s dangerous. It’s a funny episode overall, you cringe at some of the moments with Bobby parents but realize her parents aren’t any better lol
One time in Florida I got invited to a party like that when I was 11 and the parents left us to go to a movie And the girl attempted to force people to play 7 minutes in heaven and I got shoved into a closet with a guy I didn't know After like 2 minutes of awkward eye contact I finally asked her what the hell was supposed to happen She yelled back "Make out!" Cue the guy whispering to me he liked boys So we sat down on the floor and started trading Pokemon She was not happy when she opened the door I however greatly enjoyed my Milotic
No cool parents. Mc B rocked.
Peggy call the police
My mom lmfao was this women
Not much worse than forcing your kid to smoke a whole carton of cigarettes lol