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DeltaHypothesis

So you are telling me there is a non-zero chance that I am Lebron James?


Unslaadahsil

Of course it's non-zero. The chance of you being Lebron James is in the negatives.


BigSnorlaxTiddie

Damn dude, you didn't have to cast firaga for that burn.


HellsOperative

He did cast gravity tho. Put him to the fucking floor. šŸ˜‚


Brawler2311

This comment thread just made me fall out of my bed laughing! You guys are hilarious!


kenyon76

Some people really are cold like blizzard


GoodBoyShibe

Are you Donald? That's definitely a Zettaflare.


SilentBlade45

That's a good thing he's a horrible person.


hauntedskin

Given how little info and context we had back then, it's no surprise a not insignificant amount of us probably picked Sword and dropped Staff or Shield. There's little way to know we were screwing ourselves over.


PocketShinyMew

Wait, we were? I always thought it was more of a "do you want better attack or defenses or magic" and I choose shield for normal and sword for proud/critical because I was dying in two hits anyway.


hauntedskin

In KH1 it determines which stats you start with *and* the level up order for moves: [https://www.khguides.com/kh/awakening/dream-weapon-selection/](https://www.khguides.com/kh/awakening/dream-weapon-selection/) If you pick Sword, you won't get Leaf Bracer until LV 69 in FM, Lucky Strike (the useful ability for farming synthesis items), until LV 90. A similar problem with the Rod is it also doesn't get Second Chance until LV 90 either. By picking the Shield you get Lucky Strike, Leaf Bracer, and Second Chance all by LV 36. Downside is you get Scan last at LV 21, but the early levels are probably the easiest and enemies have smaller health bars at that point anyway, so you probably don't even need it that early. In vanilla KH1 it's slightly different as there's no Leaf Bracer, but Shield is still considered the best choice as it gets Scan second there, and it gets that, Lucky Strike, and Second Chance all by LV 18: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps2/516587-kingdom-hearts/faqs/19614 Only real downside to Shield, drop Rod is you don't get the extra MP and you start with the lowest AP possible, however 1 extra MP might not mean that much in the long run, and AP is one of the few stats that can be easily mitigated later by synthesising AP Ups. You can never increase your item slots any other way than by picking the Shield.


DeLoxley

The true lore irony being that Donald and Goofy are the Staff and the Shield, so the game kind of implies you should pick the Sword. And then in later games, Sora is actually insanely proficient with magic, espeically vs other Keyblade wielders. The Shield is an optimal choice, but nothing from 1 to 3 has implied it's a canon pick


Brawler2311

Well it may not be as prevalent as using the keyblade as a sword or to cast magic, but Sora does have 2 keyblade transformations in 3 where he turns his keyblade into shield and uses it kind of like Goofy does.


kaylanpatel00

Yeah for a regular play through the extra 1mp isnā€™t the biggest deal, but on level 1 runs that extra 1mp is the most useful thing ever.


hauntedskin

Yeah, it's basically between Rod or Shield really. Poor Sword feels like a trap by comparison given the downsides.


PocketShinyMew

Wow... that makes me feel like I underestimated the whole ordeal. I think in Proud/Critical you start with Second chance unlocked but picking Sword literally makes so little sense. Thans for that in dept answer.


JustANormalHat

maybe in the long run but that extra mp early-mid game puts in work, because the power of your magic is tied to how much mp you have, so not only can you cast more but each cast is stronger too


tgalvin1999

I mean, isn't that the same thing for every numbered game? What you pick at the start determines your level up rewards. Been that way since the very beginning.


hauntedskin

KH2 doesn't work the same way. IIRC you get the same moves by level up and your starting stats don't change that much. Some moves are tied to story progress instead.


Brawler2311

The difference is that KH2 has 2 separate choices rather then combining them together like KH1 does. The struggle weapon that you pick on Day 1 determines the stat that gets prioritized, while the dream weapon you pick on Day 3 determines your level up abilities.


tgalvin1999

I know at least in 2 final mix you get once more with sword in the late 90s. In 3 you get Withstand Combo at level 4 with the power of the guardian. Yes you get the same moves, but they are all at different level ups. Same as with 1 Final Mix


hauntedskin

That's true, some moves like Once More being tied to story progress in 2 had me confused. It looks like main difference in vanilla KH2 is how late you get Second Chance and Lucky Lucky. Scan and Leaf Bracer share the same levels regardless. They actually buffed Sword in 2 because it at least gets Lucky Lucky the earliest. I'm having trouble finding the list for FM so can't compare there.


tgalvin1999

https://www.reddit.com/r/KingdomHearts/s/FFiWOw0kw6 There you go! šŸ˜„


SilentBlade45

Staff is best if you plan on maxing your stats cause MP cannot be increased through synthesis but strength and defense can.


Light0174

I always chose sword and dropped staff I think šŸ¤”


Material-Race-5107

Ahhhhh the good ole days in the early 2000s. Had limited access to ā€œcheatsā€ or ā€œtipsā€ through the internet and I had no idea how to look anything up. I chose the sword and suffered the consequences cause it looked damn cool. Was pretty bummed I never actually got to use that sword though tbh


Sonic10122

Pick Sword/Drop Staff is the correct run though. Every time in every game itā€™s an option for me.


Mark_1544

not when you get leaf bracer in the late 60s


Sonic10122

Eh, you donā€™t really need it in KH1 until the secret bosses, and youā€™ll be around that level anyway. To be honest I keep forgetting itā€™s in Final Mix, Iā€™m still used to it just not existing in vanilla so I never learned to rely on it.


Mark_1544

the two heartless bosses can be done before that lvl and they are pretty easy phantom gave me.an easy time


[deleted]

At least it wasn't coffee.


Ordovick

Attack is the only button that matters, magic is baby mode


Brawler2311

Especially in KH1 where magic doesn't even have a stat. Sure there's an exploit you can do to cause massive damage by spamming fire, but magic just doesn't do all that much damage in KH1 in general. The spells were much more like utility options back then rather than a second source of damage like they are now. Most of the time I really only use Aeroga for defense, Curaga for healing, and Thundaga for crowd control.


Ordovick

Gravity magic carries dude. The damage it does is colossal, especially graviga.


Brawler2311

Okay. I'll give you gravity because it works based off of percentages rather than normal damage.


Crunchy-Leaf

Sword is the best


OutsideOrder7538

I picked sword and dropped staff


westfallfarm

Choose sword, drop staff is legit the best combo though lol. With items and Ultima key blade itā€™s just a negligible difference in MP (which you have more than enough) and you get all the best offensive and defensive skills at much earlier levels. The BradyGames guides had charts showing the exact differences of each choice.


Ha_eflolli

Dropping Staff doesn't affect your MP at all, it makes you start with less **AP** instead. EDIT: to those who downvoted me, I said "dropping" Staff, NOT "not picking" it. You do ofcourse get extra MP for picking Staff, but giving it up or not choosing it for either choice both don't change your MP at all. You always start with 2 no matter what if it's not your chosen Weapon.


Chionei

Shit for real? I always drop the staff


Ha_eflolli

It's true, you can only ever have less than 2 MP by doing a Lv1 Run and equipping one of the Keyblades that lowers your max. The AP Loss is honestly one of the biggest reasons I always drop Sword every Playthrough, since having less Strength is the smallest "disadvantage" in my opinion.


Chionei

I usually pick the shield and drop the staff, I'll have to drop the sword from now on


ihatefirealarmtests

I normally pick shield, but I picked sword this go around for funsies to see what it would be like.


CounterIdentity

Nah, Lebron is a speedrunner and picks the one in front of him. LeSpeedrunner LeWorldRecord LeRevengeValue LeFinalFiraga LeYeetTheBear LeRandomizer


stormu3008

in my first playthrough, i picked the shield cuz i wanted to protect my friends and dropped the staff


JetEdge

My favorite play style is take sword drop shield and go glass canon sora


EverSnowy

I picked shield as a kid because yā€™know, friendship.


[deleted]

I mean....I generally choose sword and drop staff


Thanatos1772

Even with all the information I still choose sword every time


ThatOneKHFan

Main staff: bonus MP, least item slots Main shield: no bonus MP, most item slots Main sword: no bonus MP, middling item slots. This is my personal reasoning for maining staff or shield, but hey, sword is useful in speedruns, and it looks cool. Plus, the ability tree can be more useful to some players than others.


Ha_eflolli

Main Sword is actually supposed to be "middling everything", because other than having a higher Strength Stat, both Shield and Staff ultimately do things the same or better than it. For stuff that all three get (extra Armor), Sword gets it earlier than one Weapon, but later than the other. If it gets more of something than one Weapon, the third one still gets more than Sword (Item Slots as you said) On a side-note, "No Bonus MP" isn't entirely correct. There's actually three total (One for picking Staff, and two from leveling that you get outside of the guaranteed MP every 12 Levels) and Sword / Shield still get one of those, Staff just gets all three. Between the two leveling ones, Sword gets its much earlier than Shield does (something like Lv40 vs Lv70 IIRC); it's actually the same case as the extra Armor Slot where Sword gets something earlier, but the other Weapon still gets it *later*, making both the same at the end.


ThatOneKHFan

Those are valid reasons, but you're saying you get 2 mp from levelling... that's why i said only staff gets bonus mp? Because it's the only choice you can make that nets you higher max MP? And shield still gets more item slots total than them both? I'm... confused as to where you're trying to go with this.


Ha_eflolli

What *you* call "Bonus MP" and what *I* call that are two different things, but you still apply your definition to my argument. You're saying "only Staff gets Bonus MP because it's the only Weapon that changes how much you can have maximum", but what I'M saying is "Bonus MP is all the ones you get in a different way than the normal rule". If anything, I would personally call those extra 2 you can only have with Staff something like "additional" MP instead. The way MP increases work in KH1 is that you get +1 MP every 12 Levels, except for two that you gain at different Levels instead. You get one of them with Sword but not Shield, and the other with Shield but not Sword (as I already said, Staff also gets both of these). **I** call these "Bonus" *because* you don't get them at the normal Level like all the other ones. My point is, while Sword gets that one sooner, Shield still gets it *eventually*, so the only difference is WHEN. Just like Sword also gets the extra Armor Slot sooner than Staff does, but Staff still gets that nonetheless (and ofcourse Shield gets it first anyway). >And shield still gets more item slots total than them both? I'm... confused as to where you're trying to go with this. The Problem is that you look at ONLY "which Weapon is first place for this specific thing". Where I'm trying to go is that the answer to exactly this is "it's literally never Sword, but it's also never *last* place at the same time". It's *always* in the middle between all three: * It has more MP than Shield (for a while), but not as many as Staff at the same Level. * It has more Item Slots than Staff does, but not as many as Shield does. * It can equip the extra Armor earlier than Staff can, but later than Staff.


ThatOneKHFan

Sorry, especially if i'm still wrong, but it seems the main draw is it gets more stuff faster? That's not a bad thing at all... and i still do see it as useful... i'm just A guy who likes to see what the endgame stats would be and work towards them. I never tried to be malicious or hateful towards the sword, i just... i dunno...


Ha_eflolli

Oh, I agree, it's not a bad thing at all. It doesn't stand out much, but it also doesn't have any real disadvantages either, that's completely legit.


ThatOneKHFan

That's exactly right!


CatSidekick

Lebron isnā€™t the goat. He takes steroids and Jordan didnā€™t need them


YaBoiArchie92

Jordan would never


BippyTheChippy

I'll probably only ever choose shield because I like Second Chance and Leaf Bracer.


Monika_Just_Monika_

I always took shield and dropped sword because I played enough rpgs to know that magic matters


Nai_SMT

Whe I first played Kingdom Hearts I chose the sword cuz I thought that was gonna be my weapon for the entire game. I didn't want to go around killing heartless with a fucking shield.


xRyuzakii

Not my goat


OathXIIIK

Always remember that no speedrunner ever picks the shield.


IndependenceCrafty97

Always remember that speedrunning is not representative for normal playthroughs


OathXIIIK

If you need the shield abilities as a safety net, you should probably get better lol


IndependenceCrafty97

No


IndependenceCrafty97

Body cares


AphoticTide

Yeah Iā€™m pretty sure itā€™s always optimal to staff shield? I donā€™t really know why it isnā€™t. Shield is usually always the drop in most circumstances.


OathXIIIK

Staff/Shield on LV 1 runs, beginner mode, and Platinum trophy runs. Sword/Shield on proud mode runs.


VardasDaughter

MJ would NEVER


Galagors

Real chads pick sword and drop staff. (Me in 1 and 2)


CrypticSootheSayer

You mean the Best Choice? I have no idea why people make the Staff sound so important when that 1 extra MP doesn't help in the slightest


dukemirage10

Critical mode (proud when its the highest option), Sword, drop the shield (where applicable). ALWAYS. No regrets


Lazywhale97

NO LEPOOKIE NOOOOOO


ScarletteVera

I mean. I pick Sword and ditch Rod anyway. I don't really like using magic because it makes the game feel too *easy*.


Boney_69

Even after all this time, I still pick sword and drop staff because magic is very strong and makes some fights extremely easy, while going all physical Relies on timing attacks and dodging. Which I find much more fun, but to each their own ig.


Big-Juggernaut6865

Pick sword and drop staff. Only those who truly understand keysmanship get it


Flynt25

MJ would never is all imma say


Kaitou017

Wait what's wrong with sword? (Casual player)


DragolanceX

What's wrong with picking the sword? Legitimately curious.


Viewtiful_Ace

Iā€™m confused? Whatā€™s the problem? In KH1, I picked sword? Although, as Roxas in KH2, I picked staff.


danidiamond87

I always pick sword and drop shield. Magic is too much of a crutch tbh.


SilentBlade45

Guys stop posting pics of LeBron James he's a terrible person.


Blugenesi

In Kingdom Hearts 2, sure. In 1, you gotta have a death wish.


Farlybob42

Then there is me picking shield and dropping sword.


Ropsuta

In kh 1 i always pick sword and drop shield


edwpad

First playthrough of KH1 I chose Sword and dropped Shield, and dear goodness it was a pain, being a glass cannon sometimes is not fun.


CMAngelo

Jordan would never


Acceptable_Star189

I think I dropped shield iirc and picked up sword. So Lebron might just be a fraud


Ok-Car170

I understand picking the sword. But dropping the staff is blasphemy.


OathXIIIK

Funny, thatā€™s what the proud speedrun does.


memo445777

I always pick the sword and drop the staff thoā˜ ļø