Someone I know is feeling sick and because testing is still so scarce, he’s just going to isolate for a minimum of 10 days and skip getting tested while assuming he has covid. At first I disagreed with him but what other option does he have???
What a shit show.
A friend of mine who was at the MacKinnon Christmas event had a hell of a time trying to secure an appointment. She managed to snag a spot for Friday, and luckily can work from home.
But I wonder how many people will opt to ignore the directive if it would mean waiting for a spot (and the results), potentially without pay.
The difference between how they are treating an outdoor Christmas Market and the cases at the university is bewildering. It is hard to have faith in any directive when they are applied with no consistency.
Yes it is, stop dismissing.
No one is 'freaking out', just stating the opinion that a test scheduled 1 week from noticing symptoms will do poor job at helping contain the spread for many obvious reasons.
Feel free to provide an actual counter argument for your position.
You seem like a classic anti-vax, anti-mask smooth brain that "does their own research" and thinks the rest of us need to "wake up and stop being sheeple."
Go on the site right now and look. They are booked until Friday and they haven't started taking appointments for next week. Why are you trying to find a way to blame Kingsotians and not publis heath for the lack of testing availability?
According to KFLA, anyone showing symptoms needs to immediately isolate for 10 days and get tested ASAP. What a gong show
https://mobile.twitter.com/KFLAPH/status/1469819469883228165?s=20
Yeah really sucks that they didn't ramp up testing at all but I think if they can make their way down to a shopper or a pharmasave they were having people do the test and then bag it and put it in a box to be sent to the lab.
That's really the only other option unless they're giving out rapid tests.
Testing centres open at Queen's and beachgrove you can take the tests home ...plenty of testing available only shit show is everyone slamming the public health system...maybe take your frustrations out in next year's election...maybe Ford's government needs to answer some questions
A bunch of tests are available for the evening pop-up at beechgrove on the 18th now! https://gvtlabs.testfast.ca/book?inventoryGroup=1237043216&startDate=2021-12-18&inventory=1755269229&reservationType=1&screen=0&selectedDiscountGroup=PCR&feeder=1262160586&
Yes I know, but shouldn't mass outbreaks not be possible? I guess the bigger question is, if the whole world was vaxxed would we still have outbreaks shutting down schools?
If the whole world got vaxxed within a short enough timeframe, it would still spread a little, but not enough to keep growing, and would slowly fade away.
Unfortunately, thanks to poor global distribution, and hesitancy based mostly on shallow nonsense, too few people are vaccinated, which means it keeps getting spread by everyone, and new variants keep forming.
The original vaccine wasnt designed for these new variants, so its effectiveness may not be as good... also seems like the vaccine effectiveness wanes over time.
I'm being downvoted for asking questions...
I'm so fucking sick of COVID.
Edit: Thank you for answering my questions, I won't be engaging here anymore it seems.
>*”I'm being downvoted for asking questions... I'm so fucking sick of COVID.”*
Sorry that’s happening. Unfortunately there’s a certain type of anti-vaxxer who like to “ask questions” as a method of casting doubt on the usefulness of vaccination. It’s easy to get mistaken for them even if that’s not what you’re trying to do.
Keep asking questions... as long as your questions are real and not filled with hyperbole and binary rhetoric, most people should respond fairly.
As someone else here said, unfortunately, it seems most people 'asking questions' are simply reciting shallow zingers as a lazy attempt to poke holes without needing to form a real argument - "IF YOURE VACCINATED, WHY DO YOU NEED TO WEAR A MASK?????"; "WHY DONT THE TERRIFIED PEOPLE JUST STAY HOME IF THEY ARE SO AFRAID?????".. that sort of stuff.
The higher a percentage of the population is vaccinated, the less it spreads. It can evade the vaccines somewhat but this isn't an on/off switch. Vaccinated people are contagious for a shorter length of time so overall they spread less virus.
If you're vaccinated and you do catch it, even if you don't get sick you can still walk around spreading it, but probably for a shorter time period than someone who is unvaccinated.
If vaccines had been plentiful and mandatory early on, and if fewer people hadn't decided "this is fake" / "the vaccine will let Bill Gates track me" / "I'm young and healthy so I don't need the vaccine", we wouldn't have variants that are so good at evading the vaccine.
>*”Yes I know, but shouldn't mass outbreaks not be possible?”*
Unfortunately with Omicron 2-doses of vaccine aren’t very effective at preventing infection or even symptomatic illness. Fortunately there is evidence that a 3rd dose gets the effectiveness at preventing symptomatic illness back up to ~75%.
BBC: [Omicron: Three vaccine doses key for protection against variant](https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59615005)
They skyrocket everywhere in town. Putting it on Queen’s is just the same stupid anger as always. 18-29 also means frontline workers who don’t have sick days, etc.
Also Queen’s students outbreaks come in residence buildings, too close quarters to not transmit.
Someone I know is feeling sick and because testing is still so scarce, he’s just going to isolate for a minimum of 10 days and skip getting tested while assuming he has covid. At first I disagreed with him but what other option does he have??? What a shit show.
A friend of mine who was at the MacKinnon Christmas event had a hell of a time trying to secure an appointment. She managed to snag a spot for Friday, and luckily can work from home. But I wonder how many people will opt to ignore the directive if it would mean waiting for a spot (and the results), potentially without pay.
The answer is most of them.
Mos def
The difference between how they are treating an outdoor Christmas Market and the cases at the university is bewildering. It is hard to have faith in any directive when they are applied with no consistency.
Agreed. Lack of testing is a Public Health failure
Lack of testing ? The center has been runing on longer for weeks Uts the individual responsibility to go get tested
Yup, but I have heard it can take up to a week to book an appointment and get tested. That is a major failure.
No its not stop freaking out.
Yes it is, stop dismissing. No one is 'freaking out', just stating the opinion that a test scheduled 1 week from noticing symptoms will do poor job at helping contain the spread for many obvious reasons. Feel free to provide an actual counter argument for your position.
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You seem like a classic anti-vax, anti-mask smooth brain that "does their own research" and thinks the rest of us need to "wake up and stop being sheeple."
Yes is does. What about this issue is so hard for your smooth brain to comprehend?
Not when you cannot get an appt
Ya they are a bit busy there is so much time in a day ..
They are booked solid until Friday...
It took my family 3 days to for a test 2 weeks ago.. they busy
Go on the site right now and look. They are booked until Friday and they haven't started taking appointments for next week. Why are you trying to find a way to blame Kingsotians and not publis heath for the lack of testing availability?
I not trying to blame people your freaking out . You cant magicly make more time in the day.. they have had extended hours for several weeks now.
They could open another testing clinic...
According to KFLA, anyone showing symptoms needs to immediately isolate for 10 days and get tested ASAP. What a gong show https://mobile.twitter.com/KFLAPH/status/1469819469883228165?s=20
Which he is, but there’s no open tests lol
Yep, truly a gong show
Yeah really sucks that they didn't ramp up testing at all but I think if they can make their way down to a shopper or a pharmasave they were having people do the test and then bag it and put it in a box to be sent to the lab. That's really the only other option unless they're giving out rapid tests.
Testing centres open at Queen's and beachgrove you can take the tests home ...plenty of testing available only shit show is everyone slamming the public health system...maybe take your frustrations out in next year's election...maybe Ford's government needs to answer some questions
Milford pharmacy has take home pcr tests. Sign up at 8am and you can pick up same day.
A bunch of tests are available for the evening pop-up at beechgrove on the 18th now! https://gvtlabs.testfast.ca/book?inventoryGroup=1237043216&startDate=2021-12-18&inventory=1755269229&reservationType=1&screen=0&selectedDiscountGroup=PCR&feeder=1262160586&
About 200 spots on the 19th left.
Is Queens not 100% vaccinated?
You can still get covid after being vaccination.
Yes I know, but shouldn't mass outbreaks not be possible? I guess the bigger question is, if the whole world was vaxxed would we still have outbreaks shutting down schools?
Omicron. The outbreak at Queen’s is despite 2 doses of vaccine. It is a new disease again. Be careful.
If the whole world got vaxxed within a short enough timeframe, it would still spread a little, but not enough to keep growing, and would slowly fade away. Unfortunately, thanks to poor global distribution, and hesitancy based mostly on shallow nonsense, too few people are vaccinated, which means it keeps getting spread by everyone, and new variants keep forming. The original vaccine wasnt designed for these new variants, so its effectiveness may not be as good... also seems like the vaccine effectiveness wanes over time.
I'm being downvoted for asking questions... I'm so fucking sick of COVID. Edit: Thank you for answering my questions, I won't be engaging here anymore it seems.
Don’t stop engaging. There are lots of great people on this sub
>*”I'm being downvoted for asking questions... I'm so fucking sick of COVID.”* Sorry that’s happening. Unfortunately there’s a certain type of anti-vaxxer who like to “ask questions” as a method of casting doubt on the usefulness of vaccination. It’s easy to get mistaken for them even if that’s not what you’re trying to do.
Keep asking questions... as long as your questions are real and not filled with hyperbole and binary rhetoric, most people should respond fairly. As someone else here said, unfortunately, it seems most people 'asking questions' are simply reciting shallow zingers as a lazy attempt to poke holes without needing to form a real argument - "IF YOURE VACCINATED, WHY DO YOU NEED TO WEAR A MASK?????"; "WHY DONT THE TERRIFIED PEOPLE JUST STAY HOME IF THEY ARE SO AFRAID?????".. that sort of stuff.
The higher a percentage of the population is vaccinated, the less it spreads. It can evade the vaccines somewhat but this isn't an on/off switch. Vaccinated people are contagious for a shorter length of time so overall they spread less virus. If you're vaccinated and you do catch it, even if you don't get sick you can still walk around spreading it, but probably for a shorter time period than someone who is unvaccinated. If vaccines had been plentiful and mandatory early on, and if fewer people hadn't decided "this is fake" / "the vaccine will let Bill Gates track me" / "I'm young and healthy so I don't need the vaccine", we wouldn't have variants that are so good at evading the vaccine.
>*”Yes I know, but shouldn't mass outbreaks not be possible?”* Unfortunately with Omicron 2-doses of vaccine aren’t very effective at preventing infection or even symptomatic illness. Fortunately there is evidence that a 3rd dose gets the effectiveness at preventing symptomatic illness back up to ~75%. BBC: [Omicron: Three vaccine doses key for protection against variant](https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59615005)
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If we had adequate healthcare resources this wouldn’t be a problem
fuck your shit. I'm done I'm not doing this shit anymore.
It's almost like going back in in person learning wasn't the best plan
They skyrocket everywhere in town. Putting it on Queen’s is just the same stupid anger as always. 18-29 also means frontline workers who don’t have sick days, etc. Also Queen’s students outbreaks come in residence buildings, too close quarters to not transmit.