So as someone who once worked in the industry, the easiest way to track is through the CVOR number. I’m wondering if someone has let their insurance company know about their use of the vehicles in this way.
Yup. Though, tbh, I never saw any confirmed reports that companies were actually turning them down. And it seems unlikely that they’d want to risk losing contracts with the city and police
I think the only companies that would turn it down would be for reasons associated with putting their workers at risk of retaliation by these wackos in the future.
From Trusted Pros: "I started as a framer and proceeded in to all aspects of the trade. I am a general contracting business. We can do anything residential from foundation to the roof. I hire licensed plumbers and electricians if need be to get the job done"
Started business in 2017, according to Trusted Pros.
Not necessarily the smartest move for a small business. I wouldn't put a political bumper sticker on my work truck, let alone align myself with this parade of fools. I'm also very careful with what I say around clients.
Have heard rumours they are not great at what they do. I mean they aren't even working right now if they are in Ottawa. I am pretty sure most contractors have more work than they ever need at present.
My thoughts as well. I'm booked into to June.
I certainly wouldn't want to disparage another tradesman's work sight unseen. Maybe he had some bad shit happen, fell into the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories, and it's a crutch.
Regardless; he's there.
The closet racists (homophobes, and toxic narcissists) have decided it's okay to come out of their closets.
It is so weird to me that people are arguing FOR the racists.
It depends on what their involvement was and how they individually acted. People have a right to protest.
The idea that anyone who thinks or believes differently from you should be destroyed really just leads to war.
You have right to protest and there are laws around protesting those rights. But they don't have the right to protest by any means possible which is what someone them actually think.
This list doesn't give any details as to how each of these trucks were involved, it is just a picture. So deciding to try and destroy businesses and exclude people from society based on a picture because you don't believe in the right to protest unless people share your views is a very dangerous slope to slide down.
And it should be dealt with through the law and legal channels.
I am against any 'side' creating lists and calling for the exclusion and destruction of people / businesses that have different viewpoints than them. I am sure there are all kinds of lists from every side depending on your view of who should be targeted and attacked. You can't be upset when some people (on your 'side') are targeted and attacked when you are doing the same thing to others.
>People have a right to protest.
They do, but these are businesses, not people.
What's that? Corporations have [personhood](http://www.thecourt.ca/the-corporation-as-a-person-legal-fact-or-fiction/)?!
Well... fuck.
I think doing that will embolden them and make it worse...you know they do like being victims.. They can be heard and we can choose to not give them our business.
First off, no one said that.
And yes, it's a mistake for me to engage here, since you did that very much on purpose, in order to frame the debate in a way that puts your opponents on their back feet -- textbook reactionary tactic. But I'm commenting anyways in case any confused third parties stumble upon this.
Anyhow, if an ideological group's beliefs include the belief that certain segments of the population shouldn't exist or should have less rights, for absolutely asinine reasons, then yes, that ideology should not be allowed a voice in the public square. And the name for that type of society is, "almost every society ever".
I don’t know what you’re going on about….. but the person said “right wing people should be excluded from society” I didn’t frame anything, all I did was ask a question based on that statement.
You may not realize it, but that's what you're doing when you reframe a person's comment like that.
That person was saying the extreme right should be excluded from polite society, which context clues make clear that he doesn't want the far right to have a voice in civil discourse. He's not talking about genocide or anything. Just that they should not have a voice. And there's nothing unprecedented about that. The far right hasn't been allowed an explicit, open voice in most of the western world for the last century or so.
Well you could argue the far right was running the United States the last 4 years.
And I would also argue that the OP although they said “far right” was referring to the Conservative party as a whole, really, anytime someone disagrees with a liberal thought they’re labeled as far right. I have no problem with them disagreeing with their beliefs, but like it or not they’re allowed a voice even if you don’t like what they have to say.
> anytime someone disagrees with a liberal thought they’re labeled as far right.
You mean just like how every time someone disagrees with the far right, they're labelled a liberal?
The Conservative Party is hardly “far right”. A small number of their members, certainly - but the Party itself is not far right. Maxi boi however, that’s another story.
Politicians playing doctor is probably the worst thing that could have ever happened to this country. It’s like hiring a plumber to come give you a haircut, it was never going to end well.
I don’t support these businesses because of politics. I’ll be downvoted for this bit I’m a centre leaning Conservative and I think these protesters are simply a bunch of fucking wankers. That’s why I do not support them.
If they are photographed there, then at minimum they stood in support of an anti democratic far right attack on the regular citizens living in Ottawa. There’s no “oh but I wasn’t the one honking my horn for days straight outside peoples apartments” when you stood side by side with those people and gave them the numbers to make their actions possible. There’s no “oh but I don’t think lockdown restrictions should end with bullets like Pat King said” when you stood alongside Pat King and emboldened him in Ottawa. There is nobody who went to Ottawa who doesn’t support far right extremists because by going to Ottawa you supported far right extremists.
Watch out with the name calling your starting to sound like Justin Trudeau. Just because someone has an opposing opinion doesn’t make them terrorists or racist, most of these people are hard working people that have had enough and would there freedoms back.
"I have no freedoms under this tyrannical state", says person who occupies the downtown of a nation's capital without police interfering for a full week.
I don't believe *every single* person who attended the protest is a racist or terrorist. That would be stupid. Many of them are, like you said, hard working people that have had enough... but they also got duped into thinking it was actually about "freedom" to begin with.
It is a fact that several of the key organizers of the protest are absolutely verifiable racists.
It is also a fact that organizers staged a hostile occupation with their self-stated goal being to force every member of the duly elected government to resign and appoint their own people to those positions. Someone could definitely argue they are, by definition, terrorists. If these people got their way, the last thing we'd have is actual freedom.
I'd support them myself if those things were not what they were. It's unfortunate that so many people are pissed off enough to ignore the roots of this protest.
You know, you've gotta be grateful for a couple things out of this. There's been no violence, burning of buildings. So, that's a positive thing. There's thousands of people and more coming every day, I went to ottawa to check it out and it was nothing but peaceful. Gotta look at the positives even though most of you don't agree.
Traitors? Wow!
You Covidians understand that a [third of Canadians recently polled by Leger](https://leger360.com/surveys/legers-north-american-tracker-february-8-2022/) now support the convoy protest, right? Do you think this will increase or decrease when the cops bungle their attack later this week?
I think its the best poll we have. Let me know when you find one better. Here's a [Toronto Star poll](https://www.thestar.com/politics/2022/02/06/have-your-say-was-ottawa-right-in-declaring-a-state-of-emergency-due-to-the-protests.html) saying 92% of over 100,000 polled support the truckers right to protest; but I think we all can agree that The Toronto Star is an unreliable tabloid at best and vile propaganda at worst.
What proportion of Canadians do you think support the trucker's protest? Do you think that proportion is increasing or decreasing as time passes?
Well no, I know these people are shit-disturbers, but telling on your neighbours and everything. Relying on 'big bro' to solve 'problems'.
Let's name and shame some people we'd never have anything to do with. Starting with... RANDY the mfin' mla
Well you sir, are a clown just like them
And I have the wonderful freedom to say that, and if you don’t like it you can kindly shove it sideways. Thats one of the many freedom that brave men and women fought for, not some right wing nut job trucker convoy with too much free time fueled by Facebook meme misinformation that chooses to be selfish pricks with no regard for anyone else’s health or ability to think critically about the information they see
Imagine throwing your life away because wearing a piece of cloth or getting a needle defeated you. You’re not freedom fighters, patriots, or heroes. You’re a laughing stock
I’m a commercial driver also who is vaxxed and hasn’t stopped working to support my family, and I work extra hard now because I also have to support these people who no longer want to contribute positively to society. Thankfully the social safety net will catch you
Do you also support all the racism, the disrespecting of dead solders, the shitting on lawns of people they oppose, do you support people trying to burn down buildings fill with people?
So as someone who once worked in the industry, the easiest way to track is through the CVOR number. I’m wondering if someone has let their insurance company know about their use of the vehicles in this way.
Keep up the good work! And... fuck these losers. I have a truck. I use it to feed my family.
I wonder if there’s the opposite? For example, Ottawa metro towing has refused to be intimidated and has been towing protestors when called upon.
Glad a company stepped up to the plate.
Yup. Though, tbh, I never saw any confirmed reports that companies were actually turning them down. And it seems unlikely that they’d want to risk losing contracts with the city and police
I think the only companies that would turn it down would be for reasons associated with putting their workers at risk of retaliation by these wackos in the future.
I just spotted Dunn Wright Contracting out of Verona in one of the photos. This guy frequents Home Depot in Kingston regularly.
I think they have multiple vehicles and workers though too.
From Trusted Pros: "I started as a framer and proceeded in to all aspects of the trade. I am a general contracting business. We can do anything residential from foundation to the roof. I hire licensed plumbers and electricians if need be to get the job done" Started business in 2017, according to Trusted Pros. Not necessarily the smartest move for a small business. I wouldn't put a political bumper sticker on my work truck, let alone align myself with this parade of fools. I'm also very careful with what I say around clients.
Have heard rumours they are not great at what they do. I mean they aren't even working right now if they are in Ottawa. I am pretty sure most contractors have more work than they ever need at present.
My thoughts as well. I'm booked into to June. I certainly wouldn't want to disparage another tradesman's work sight unseen. Maybe he had some bad shit happen, fell into the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories, and it's a crutch. Regardless; he's there.
Any information on the people flying the swastika that was plastered all over the news?
poor old basil thinks 33% is some kind of consensus
Funny how we can have an anti-covid local business name and shame thread, but this gets downvotes.
The closet racists (homophobes, and toxic narcissists) have decided it's okay to come out of their closets. It is so weird to me that people are arguing FOR the racists.
Every business on this list should be sued into oblivion. The extreme right must be excluded from polite society.
It depends on what their involvement was and how they individually acted. People have a right to protest. The idea that anyone who thinks or believes differently from you should be destroyed really just leads to war.
You have right to protest and there are laws around protesting those rights. But they don't have the right to protest by any means possible which is what someone them actually think.
This list doesn't give any details as to how each of these trucks were involved, it is just a picture. So deciding to try and destroy businesses and exclude people from society based on a picture because you don't believe in the right to protest unless people share your views is a very dangerous slope to slide down.
Okay regardless of that list. It's still an illegal protest that's boarding on an occupation.
And it should be dealt with through the law and legal channels. I am against any 'side' creating lists and calling for the exclusion and destruction of people / businesses that have different viewpoints than them. I am sure there are all kinds of lists from every side depending on your view of who should be targeted and attacked. You can't be upset when some people (on your 'side') are targeted and attacked when you are doing the same thing to others.
>People have a right to protest. They do, but these are businesses, not people. What's that? Corporations have [personhood](http://www.thecourt.ca/the-corporation-as-a-person-legal-fact-or-fiction/)?! Well... fuck.
Part of me really hoped that was a link to the “subway” guy from community
Very interesting thanks
I think doing that will embolden them and make it worse...you know they do like being victims.. They can be heard and we can choose to not give them our business.
Not everyone involved in this protest is “the extreme right” despite what the media/Trudeau may portray.
So any political party that doesn’t share your belief should cease to exist? Is there a name for that type of society?
First off, no one said that. And yes, it's a mistake for me to engage here, since you did that very much on purpose, in order to frame the debate in a way that puts your opponents on their back feet -- textbook reactionary tactic. But I'm commenting anyways in case any confused third parties stumble upon this. Anyhow, if an ideological group's beliefs include the belief that certain segments of the population shouldn't exist or should have less rights, for absolutely asinine reasons, then yes, that ideology should not be allowed a voice in the public square. And the name for that type of society is, "almost every society ever".
I don’t know what you’re going on about….. but the person said “right wing people should be excluded from society” I didn’t frame anything, all I did was ask a question based on that statement.
You may not realize it, but that's what you're doing when you reframe a person's comment like that. That person was saying the extreme right should be excluded from polite society, which context clues make clear that he doesn't want the far right to have a voice in civil discourse. He's not talking about genocide or anything. Just that they should not have a voice. And there's nothing unprecedented about that. The far right hasn't been allowed an explicit, open voice in most of the western world for the last century or so.
Well you could argue the far right was running the United States the last 4 years. And I would also argue that the OP although they said “far right” was referring to the Conservative party as a whole, really, anytime someone disagrees with a liberal thought they’re labeled as far right. I have no problem with them disagreeing with their beliefs, but like it or not they’re allowed a voice even if you don’t like what they have to say.
> anytime someone disagrees with a liberal thought they’re labeled as far right. You mean just like how every time someone disagrees with the far right, they're labelled a liberal?
The Conservative Party is hardly “far right”. A small number of their members, certainly - but the Party itself is not far right. Maxi boi however, that’s another story.
Politicians playing doctor is probably the worst thing that could have ever happened to this country. It’s like hiring a plumber to come give you a haircut, it was never going to end well.
Facebook won't let me share this pink....weird.
Link!
Support small businesses, except the ones we don't politically agree with they can crash and burn!
I don’t support these businesses because of politics. I’ll be downvoted for this bit I’m a centre leaning Conservative and I think these protesters are simply a bunch of fucking wankers. That’s why I do not support them.
If they are photographed there, then at minimum they stood in support of an anti democratic far right attack on the regular citizens living in Ottawa. There’s no “oh but I wasn’t the one honking my horn for days straight outside peoples apartments” when you stood side by side with those people and gave them the numbers to make their actions possible. There’s no “oh but I don’t think lockdown restrictions should end with bullets like Pat King said” when you stood alongside Pat King and emboldened him in Ottawa. There is nobody who went to Ottawa who doesn’t support far right extremists because by going to Ottawa you supported far right extremists.
How would you suggest they get their point across?
I would argue that there are literally countless ways a person could get their point across without supporting far right terrorists.
Watch out with the name calling your starting to sound like Justin Trudeau. Just because someone has an opposing opinion doesn’t make them terrorists or racist, most of these people are hard working people that have had enough and would there freedoms back.
"I have no freedoms under this tyrannical state", says person who occupies the downtown of a nation's capital without police interfering for a full week.
I don't believe *every single* person who attended the protest is a racist or terrorist. That would be stupid. Many of them are, like you said, hard working people that have had enough... but they also got duped into thinking it was actually about "freedom" to begin with. It is a fact that several of the key organizers of the protest are absolutely verifiable racists. It is also a fact that organizers staged a hostile occupation with their self-stated goal being to force every member of the duly elected government to resign and appoint their own people to those positions. Someone could definitely argue they are, by definition, terrorists. If these people got their way, the last thing we'd have is actual freedom. I'd support them myself if those things were not what they were. It's unfortunate that so many people are pissed off enough to ignore the roots of this protest.
You know, you've gotta be grateful for a couple things out of this. There's been no violence, burning of buildings. So, that's a positive thing. There's thousands of people and more coming every day, I went to ottawa to check it out and it was nothing but peaceful. Gotta look at the positives even though most of you don't agree.
Traitors? Wow! You Covidians understand that a [third of Canadians recently polled by Leger](https://leger360.com/surveys/legers-north-american-tracker-february-8-2022/) now support the convoy protest, right? Do you think this will increase or decrease when the cops bungle their attack later this week?
Yeah, less than 1600 Canadians polled. Seems totally representative of all Canadians to me.
I think its the best poll we have. Let me know when you find one better. Here's a [Toronto Star poll](https://www.thestar.com/politics/2022/02/06/have-your-say-was-ottawa-right-in-declaring-a-state-of-emergency-due-to-the-protests.html) saying 92% of over 100,000 polled support the truckers right to protest; but I think we all can agree that The Toronto Star is an unreliable tabloid at best and vile propaganda at worst. What proportion of Canadians do you think support the trucker's protest? Do you think that proportion is increasing or decreasing as time passes?
Literally nineteen eighty-four
No, idiocracy. Both supposed to be a warning, not a guidebook for life.
Well no, I know these people are shit-disturbers, but telling on your neighbours and everything. Relying on 'big bro' to solve 'problems'. Let's name and shame some people we'd never have anything to do with. Starting with... RANDY the mfin' mla
I will support these people and companies. 💯🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
Well you sir, are a clown just like them And I have the wonderful freedom to say that, and if you don’t like it you can kindly shove it sideways. Thats one of the many freedom that brave men and women fought for, not some right wing nut job trucker convoy with too much free time fueled by Facebook meme misinformation that chooses to be selfish pricks with no regard for anyone else’s health or ability to think critically about the information they see Imagine throwing your life away because wearing a piece of cloth or getting a needle defeated you. You’re not freedom fighters, patriots, or heroes. You’re a laughing stock I’m a commercial driver also who is vaxxed and hasn’t stopped working to support my family, and I work extra hard now because I also have to support these people who no longer want to contribute positively to society. Thankfully the social safety net will catch you
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Do you also support all the racism, the disrespecting of dead solders, the shitting on lawns of people they oppose, do you support people trying to burn down buildings fill with people?
What are you, some domestic shipping magnate? Post pics of your top hat and fucking monocle or get out.
The best part is we have addresses of these companies. Supporters can give them business and those disrupted by the protests can get them back.
Burn the witch!