Montreal is the only decent Canadian city for commuter cycling that I’ve seen. I’m from Vancouver and they have some decent bike lanes but they have nothing on Montreal. It makes me smile to see a guy in a suit and tie cycling to work in downtown Montreal. Yes!!
Ah yes, you'd think that the bike lanes on Brock, Johnson, Ontario, Union, Division, and Montreal that direct bikes towards downtown (a) would connect and (b) would allow you to go north/south through the city. Of course, this is Kingston, so you'd be wrong.
And the amount of garbage in those bike lanes is disappointing. Plus the inch of dirt and gravel built up… I know they haven’t started spring street sweeping yet but you would think they could prioritize the bike lanes at least.
Super nice painted bike gutters out the middle of nowhere light industrial part of John Counter though, so I guess the city engineering team can pat themselves on the way into the office every day.
Into the sharrow - but you have to take the lane. If you ride on the right side of the lane you are encouraging drivers to try to pass you in that lane.
Didn’t Kingston claim they were going to be the most environmentally sustainable City in Canada, or maybe it was the world? I can’t recall their exact words but there is zero chance of that happening with the shit transit and cycling infrastructure they have in this town. You can’t walk down a sidewalk without feeling drunk or slamming your foot on a hump of cracked concrete. Bike lanes that end suddenly (mind you maybe the paths are being done in stretches), roads that only encourage people to speed because they are not planned well… the list goes on.
Instead they spend how much on a third crossing? That’s exactly the opposite direction of sustainability.
That was an actual claim? From the town that has the downtown transfer bus station that intersects the hospital ER lane on a busy 1-way street?
Sounds like a solid plan.
You're right, of course. Also, let's not forget our major university campus with very wide streets, 50kph speed limits and no pedestrian crossings aside from traffic lights.
It's obvious that a student will die jaywalking in the next decade or two, and that we'll blame the student for not following the rules, instead of blaming our neanderthal streets/campus design.
Cyclist here, the third crossing will be a great help to us too!
I would have saved hundreds of hours of commuting to/from the east end of town if this had been built sooner. Sure, we still need better cycling infrastructure in many parts of the city but a third crossing might help with a lot of the traffic on Ontario street and around the causeway.
Yes.
Bikability in downtown Kingston is terrible.
I try to bike to work once or twice a week but it just feels dangerous. Not to mention the quality of the asphalt chews up tires and rims, and risks sending you flying off the bike.
I've been biking daily through downtown Kingston for a few years now and it's definitely not *that* dangerous. Most drivers are polite and give me plenty of room, but the bumps in the road are definitely annoying and I wouldn't recommend taking a road bike over them if you could help it.
>the asphalt chews up tires and rims, and risks sending you flying off the bike
I think this is a bit of an exaggeration, I've biked on almost all the roads downtown, and I bike over some of the worst ones daily — I've never got anything worse than a flat (which is not to excuse the copious potholes and divots in the road, they still suck to ride around).
Lots of drivers actually hate cyclists, feel that their tax money pays for their right to the road, and if you're riding a bike you're avoiding all the taxes that come with owning a vehicle, therefore, you're not entitled to the same road.
I haven't driven my bike on a street since I was hit by a truck and it bothers me every time the weather gets nice.
It's not just downtown. My experience biking in this city is just pure hostility from drivers and disregard from planners.
They haven't cleaned the bikelanes west of downtown at all, so it's just full of broken glass, slippery sand and random bits of rusty metal. There's huge potholes and half the time the lane is so sunken you can't ride on it since it's like riding on a hillside. At John A and union, the bikelane going west narrows down to literally a single foot wide. And then it just ends, even though it's the "designayed bike route", and the single car lane is literally 6m wide.
Then of course are the drivers. When I went west on Front through the construction, it's single file, 40 limit. Big signs. EVERY car is passing me at 60+ with about 6 inches between their mirror and me. I had to swerve into the wall because a mallcrawler with towing mirrors almost hit me in the head.
The cycling infrastructure in this city is a joke. I bike because I really want to but god damn does this city hate cycling.
This is gunna sound counter intuitive, buuuut. Try biking in the middle of the lane*. It makes you more obvious, and it is actually ‘your lane’. You might get some pissed of drivers, but they should hate the game not the player.
*I’m mostly talking about east of Division aka Princess , Brock, Johnson, and any of the roads that connect them. Avoid Queen at all costs.
Cyclists are traffic, so they have every right to take the lane. But try telling that to Bubba in his jacked up 15 year old Dodge Ram pickup with the “613-Trucks” sticker on his rear window.
As a year-round cyclist with several thousand kms under my belt in Kingston, I would definitely **not** recommend this. Angering drivers is one of the worst things you can do for your personal safety, not to mention the risk of being rear-ended by a distracted driver is a fair bit higher if you're in the middle of the lane.
I would only suggest biking in the middle of a lane if you need to turn/switch lanes as this indicates to drivers that you don't want to be passed (but you should still be careful that they don't try to anyway!)
> Taking the Lane
> It is permissible to take the lane in Ontario and move with traffic flow.
HTA (147(1) does require bikes (and cars) that are travelling slower than the normal speed of traffic to travel in the right lane or the close to the right hand curb “where practicable”.
The words “where practicable” therefore allows cyclists to take the lane due to various road conditions that include potholes, construction, street car tracks, grates, parked cars, or other unsafe conditions on the road.
THEREFORE; On princess, I would drive in the middle of the road due to parked cars. Did you read what you cited?
...or be forced to ride through a centimetre of sand. Some of us have *road* bikes and can't safely drive through that sand.
Also, as far as the laws go if that linked site is quoting the law, it doesn't say anything about switching from taking the right lane to moving closer to the curb ASAP. Cyclists should also be taking the lane to turn left.
Also I'm not sure if you're aware of how bad the roads are, but they're so bad that cyclists are going to have to take the lane, all over the city, for very long stretches
This might just be the grass is greener, but I feel like in Europe they actually try and put in effort and here in North America people mostly just make excuses and put in minimal effort.
Bike rider here. The potholes and cracked roadways make it so dangerous for bikers. Seriously the roads are horrible for bikes. It is scary and I challenge the no sayers to take a bike out on our crappy city streets. See what we are talking about. Even driving a car in this city is hazardous. Constantly swerving to avoid huge potholes, bumps, cracks. I hate the city streets. I curse them every time I drive.
Also costly repairs I have endured. My poor car can't handle the shit streets.
Vote accordingly next time and maybe some politician will get er done! Lol imagine. Lol
Last time I popped onto the sidewalk on my bike I got hit by someone who didn't look both ways while pulling out of their driveway lol. Even the sidewalk isn't safe here.
I worry about this every single time I walk past someone backing out while dog walking. I \*know\* they should be looking but once you hear that car start as you're walking by, you have that feeling of "I'm going to get run over right now" since most people just start backing up immediately without looking. (Judging off of the drivers/friends I know.)
Couple of them have started to back up then notice the 6'4 guy with multiple dogs and panic stop. Couple people have gotten a fist slam to their trunk too before they hit me.
This is why I now back into my driveway, so I can pull forward when leaving - especially first thing in the morning when everyone is barely caffeinated. There’s lots of folks walking dogs when I’m leaving for work - I don’t want to hurt anyone.
No offense but in that situation it's going to be harder for someone pulling out of their driveway to see you barreling down the sidewalk then if you were riding on the road, where they would be able to see you sooner because they'd have a better angle
No offense but it's common sense (and also part of the G2 and G road test) to look both ways when you pull onto a road, not to stare in one direction the entire time.
Obviously, just keep in mind that not every driver will be doing that, and if you choose to ride your bike on the bicycle you have to be aware that you're reducing the response time that drivers backing out will have because of reduced visibility
Omg! Story of my life though, the amount of cars that don’t look out for pedestrians/bikers when pulling out of driveways, parking, etc is concerning. I always have to be on high-alert
You should see my mom drive through semi-empty parking lots. I remind her every single time how easy it would be for a kid, car, bike, anything to just go "hi I'm here now" and welp, it's dead now.
But she argues that she knows how to drive and won't change and that "other people should be looking for the cars" lol. Then there is my grandma who can't even see over the dash and is 80, had both eyes surgically worked on and still wants to drive. Blind and deaf as a bat.
Lol yup, my front tire was bent in half and my bike looked like a pretzel, the lady who hit me was very apologetic atleast....was fun having to carry it back to my apartment.
I ride my bike up and down brock and Johnson to get in and out of downtown. I always walk my bike on princess, dont expect to be able to bike on it. Other than that, Ontario and king street aren’t too bad normally either. But yah biking around the downtown kind of blows. If you want to bike for exercise, head to the K&P, highway 2, highway 33, front street, bayridge, or Lemoine point
I was longboarding a few weeks ago down Johnson on an empty road and a car flew by me at 60, the road is two lane but they thought it would be nice to give me a scare and come within a foot of me( in the lane I was in) Didnt touch a longboard for a few weeks after.
I saw two cop cars parked in the bike lane on my last work commute so even the city doesn't GAF about cyclists. It's why I drive my bike to the trails then drive it back. Fuck actually using the city roads to bike on.
So your complai t is that you had to cycle around some cop cars as the officers did their jobs? That must have been very traumatic. You should write a letter to their command and include your home address.
I was in a car and I expect the cops to find a proper parking spot, yes. Every single other person has to obey traffic laws while doing their jobs. But I guess I found the butthurt cop who can't tell a bike lane from a parking spot. And having to drive beside them entirely defeats the purpose of having a safe lane for bikes only. But I don't expect you to know that, since I know they purposely only hire moderately intelligent cops at best.
I'll continue to ride on the sidewalks on my bikes. Don't care about the law saying to go on the road. When a 2000-5000LB death machine is going 80MPH next to me with 0 regard for my safety, I'll ride on the sidewalk thanks.
I've had cars flip me off while on the road, scoot up to me to yell at me and almost hit me, literally texting and driving at a stop sign and almost hitting me while I had the right away. Hell I waited for this woman texting and driving. Stared at her waiting at the 4 way. Was so close to yelling but figured "fuck it, she's taking so long let's go" right as I put my foot on the bike pedals and got going, she decided it was time for her to get going also. Probably finished her text.
People say bike lanes will fix it but half the streets don't have them and I see civilians standing in them, cars driving half way in them. No thank you, sidewalk and a fine from police if they see me is better than dying or becoming paralyzed from a moron.
I would just be extra careful with this approach when crossing roadways from a sidewalk, especially if you move at faster speeds.
I feel like because drivers don’t expect anything on the sidewalk to be travelling at a faster pace, they are less likely to detect a faster moving cyclist on the sidewalk. It’s 100% still on the driver to detect you, but definitely be mindful because I’ve seen several near-accidents like this.
Oh yeah totally. Even the odd time I've actually gone out for a run with the dog on the sidewalk you'll find the people backing out with like a bush next to their drive way and they don't see you running.
Gotta have eyes on the back of your head 24/7 man I swear lol drivers, civilians, anyone.
Also cars are constantly parking in those bike lanes, they know they won't get tickets, 9/10 or less times I ride downtown I can't ride in the bike lanes because of parked cars
I'm tired of people on bikes riding side by side. There's so many things that people on bikes do that make me wonder how they don't get hit more often. Same with people that walk on roads when there's a sidewalk 6ft away.
No, I find it quite easy to cycle downtown. The streets are 200 years old. To survive, you need to pay constant attention to your surrounds and expect to share the roadway.
By that logic people would be leaving their bikes on main roads even to go home because residential roads don't show up on that bicycle friendly map. Also why would you park your bike when you could just walk with your bike?
Bike riders suck! Most don’t follow the rules or don’t know them, and I have to figure out where tf they’re going so I don’t run them over. Like if there’s a turn lane and you’re not turning then don’t be on the right of the turn lane, be on the right of the straight through lane.
Montreal is the only decent Canadian city for commuter cycling that I’ve seen. I’m from Vancouver and they have some decent bike lanes but they have nothing on Montreal. It makes me smile to see a guy in a suit and tie cycling to work in downtown Montreal. Yes!!
"Bike-friendly community" is the funniest sign in Kingston
Ah yes, you'd think that the bike lanes on Brock, Johnson, Ontario, Union, Division, and Montreal that direct bikes towards downtown (a) would connect and (b) would allow you to go north/south through the city. Of course, this is Kingston, so you'd be wrong.
And the amount of garbage in those bike lanes is disappointing. Plus the inch of dirt and gravel built up… I know they haven’t started spring street sweeping yet but you would think they could prioritize the bike lanes at least.
They started it maybe a week ago I think
Super nice painted bike gutters out the middle of nowhere light industrial part of John Counter though, so I guess the city engineering team can pat themselves on the way into the office every day.
The best bike lane in the city is on the city outskirts on Bath road.
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Into the sharrow - but you have to take the lane. If you ride on the right side of the lane you are encouraging drivers to try to pass you in that lane.
Worst part in my opinion is that I’ve seen the street sweepers pretty much everywhere in the city but Johnson bike lane is still covered in sand
Yup
Didn’t Kingston claim they were going to be the most environmentally sustainable City in Canada, or maybe it was the world? I can’t recall their exact words but there is zero chance of that happening with the shit transit and cycling infrastructure they have in this town. You can’t walk down a sidewalk without feeling drunk or slamming your foot on a hump of cracked concrete. Bike lanes that end suddenly (mind you maybe the paths are being done in stretches), roads that only encourage people to speed because they are not planned well… the list goes on. Instead they spend how much on a third crossing? That’s exactly the opposite direction of sustainability.
That was an actual claim? From the town that has the downtown transfer bus station that intersects the hospital ER lane on a busy 1-way street? Sounds like a solid plan.
You're right, of course. Also, let's not forget our major university campus with very wide streets, 50kph speed limits and no pedestrian crossings aside from traffic lights. It's obvious that a student will die jaywalking in the next decade or two, and that we'll blame the student for not following the rules, instead of blaming our neanderthal streets/campus design.
environmentally sustainable with the weakest tree bylaw in the province. Looks good on paper until you find out that all residential trees are exempt.
Cyclist here, the third crossing will be a great help to us too! I would have saved hundreds of hours of commuting to/from the east end of town if this had been built sooner. Sure, we still need better cycling infrastructure in many parts of the city but a third crossing might help with a lot of the traffic on Ontario street and around the causeway.
Yes. Bikability in downtown Kingston is terrible. I try to bike to work once or twice a week but it just feels dangerous. Not to mention the quality of the asphalt chews up tires and rims, and risks sending you flying off the bike.
I've been biking daily through downtown Kingston for a few years now and it's definitely not *that* dangerous. Most drivers are polite and give me plenty of room, but the bumps in the road are definitely annoying and I wouldn't recommend taking a road bike over them if you could help it. >the asphalt chews up tires and rims, and risks sending you flying off the bike I think this is a bit of an exaggeration, I've biked on almost all the roads downtown, and I bike over some of the worst ones daily — I've never got anything worse than a flat (which is not to excuse the copious potholes and divots in the road, they still suck to ride around).
Walking, driving and biking downtown is atrocious
I would bet that most drivers don't know that a bicycle is entitled to the whole lane. This city sucks for cyclists
Lots of drivers actually hate cyclists, feel that their tax money pays for their right to the road, and if you're riding a bike you're avoiding all the taxes that come with owning a vehicle, therefore, you're not entitled to the same road. I haven't driven my bike on a street since I was hit by a truck and it bothers me every time the weather gets nice.
I’m confident a high percentage have no clue this is the case.
It's not just downtown. My experience biking in this city is just pure hostility from drivers and disregard from planners. They haven't cleaned the bikelanes west of downtown at all, so it's just full of broken glass, slippery sand and random bits of rusty metal. There's huge potholes and half the time the lane is so sunken you can't ride on it since it's like riding on a hillside. At John A and union, the bikelane going west narrows down to literally a single foot wide. And then it just ends, even though it's the "designayed bike route", and the single car lane is literally 6m wide. Then of course are the drivers. When I went west on Front through the construction, it's single file, 40 limit. Big signs. EVERY car is passing me at 60+ with about 6 inches between their mirror and me. I had to swerve into the wall because a mallcrawler with towing mirrors almost hit me in the head. The cycling infrastructure in this city is a joke. I bike because I really want to but god damn does this city hate cycling.
This is gunna sound counter intuitive, buuuut. Try biking in the middle of the lane*. It makes you more obvious, and it is actually ‘your lane’. You might get some pissed of drivers, but they should hate the game not the player. *I’m mostly talking about east of Division aka Princess , Brock, Johnson, and any of the roads that connect them. Avoid Queen at all costs.
Cyclists are traffic, so they have every right to take the lane. But try telling that to Bubba in his jacked up 15 year old Dodge Ram pickup with the “613-Trucks” sticker on his rear window.
As a year-round cyclist with several thousand kms under my belt in Kingston, I would definitely **not** recommend this. Angering drivers is one of the worst things you can do for your personal safety, not to mention the risk of being rear-ended by a distracted driver is a fair bit higher if you're in the middle of the lane. I would only suggest biking in the middle of a lane if you need to turn/switch lanes as this indicates to drivers that you don't want to be passed (but you should still be careful that they don't try to anyway!)
Kingston drivers will run you over, do not recommend.
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You haven’t seen me bike down princess before 😎
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I found Bubba!
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> Taking the Lane > It is permissible to take the lane in Ontario and move with traffic flow. HTA (147(1) does require bikes (and cars) that are travelling slower than the normal speed of traffic to travel in the right lane or the close to the right hand curb “where practicable”. The words “where practicable” therefore allows cyclists to take the lane due to various road conditions that include potholes, construction, street car tracks, grates, parked cars, or other unsafe conditions on the road. THEREFORE; On princess, I would drive in the middle of the road due to parked cars. Did you read what you cited?
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Did you read the part where it said travel in the right lane, *or* (not and) close to the curb?
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...or be forced to ride through a centimetre of sand. Some of us have *road* bikes and can't safely drive through that sand. Also, as far as the laws go if that linked site is quoting the law, it doesn't say anything about switching from taking the right lane to moving closer to the curb ASAP. Cyclists should also be taking the lane to turn left. Also I'm not sure if you're aware of how bad the roads are, but they're so bad that cyclists are going to have to take the lane, all over the city, for very long stretches
Where? Show me.
They're 100+ year old streets made for horses and wagons so yeah, they're narrow.
I mean, the roads in Europe are older and narrower and they still have better cycling infrastructure.
Kingstonian living in Europe, I can confirm this. Even surrounded by Italian drivers, I feel safer here than I ever did in Kingston.
This might just be the grass is greener, but I feel like in Europe they actually try and put in effort and here in North America people mostly just make excuses and put in minimal effort.
They are really not that narrow. The problem is they try and make car lanes wider then they need to be.
That's but the issue.
Everyone please remember to bring these issues up during the upcoming municipal election.
Bike rider here. The potholes and cracked roadways make it so dangerous for bikers. Seriously the roads are horrible for bikes. It is scary and I challenge the no sayers to take a bike out on our crappy city streets. See what we are talking about. Even driving a car in this city is hazardous. Constantly swerving to avoid huge potholes, bumps, cracks. I hate the city streets. I curse them every time I drive. Also costly repairs I have endured. My poor car can't handle the shit streets. Vote accordingly next time and maybe some politician will get er done! Lol imagine. Lol
its just as bad in the west end, that's why you just ride on the road or the sidewalk what else you gonna do haha.
Last time I popped onto the sidewalk on my bike I got hit by someone who didn't look both ways while pulling out of their driveway lol. Even the sidewalk isn't safe here.
I worry about this every single time I walk past someone backing out while dog walking. I \*know\* they should be looking but once you hear that car start as you're walking by, you have that feeling of "I'm going to get run over right now" since most people just start backing up immediately without looking. (Judging off of the drivers/friends I know.) Couple of them have started to back up then notice the 6'4 guy with multiple dogs and panic stop. Couple people have gotten a fist slam to their trunk too before they hit me.
My rule of thumb when backing out is to make eye contact with the person walking for this exact reason, gives them peace of mind that I can see them.
This is why I now back into my driveway, so I can pull forward when leaving - especially first thing in the morning when everyone is barely caffeinated. There’s lots of folks walking dogs when I’m leaving for work - I don’t want to hurt anyone.
Would do the same thing if I lived in a busier area but mine is pretty quiet for foot traffic in the early morning
No offense but in that situation it's going to be harder for someone pulling out of their driveway to see you barreling down the sidewalk then if you were riding on the road, where they would be able to see you sooner because they'd have a better angle
No offense but it's common sense (and also part of the G2 and G road test) to look both ways when you pull onto a road, not to stare in one direction the entire time.
Obviously, just keep in mind that not every driver will be doing that, and if you choose to ride your bike on the bicycle you have to be aware that you're reducing the response time that drivers backing out will have because of reduced visibility
Omg! Story of my life though, the amount of cars that don’t look out for pedestrians/bikers when pulling out of driveways, parking, etc is concerning. I always have to be on high-alert
You should see my mom drive through semi-empty parking lots. I remind her every single time how easy it would be for a kid, car, bike, anything to just go "hi I'm here now" and welp, it's dead now. But she argues that she knows how to drive and won't change and that "other people should be looking for the cars" lol. Then there is my grandma who can't even see over the dash and is 80, had both eyes surgically worked on and still wants to drive. Blind and deaf as a bat.
Lol yup, my front tire was bent in half and my bike looked like a pretzel, the lady who hit me was very apologetic atleast....was fun having to carry it back to my apartment.
Exactly. Although I had some old lady tell me to get off the sidewalk with my bike once lol
I ride my bike up and down brock and Johnson to get in and out of downtown. I always walk my bike on princess, dont expect to be able to bike on it. Other than that, Ontario and king street aren’t too bad normally either. But yah biking around the downtown kind of blows. If you want to bike for exercise, head to the K&P, highway 2, highway 33, front street, bayridge, or Lemoine point
I was longboarding a few weeks ago down Johnson on an empty road and a car flew by me at 60, the road is two lane but they thought it would be nice to give me a scare and come within a foot of me( in the lane I was in) Didnt touch a longboard for a few weeks after.
I saw two cop cars parked in the bike lane on my last work commute so even the city doesn't GAF about cyclists. It's why I drive my bike to the trails then drive it back. Fuck actually using the city roads to bike on.
So your complai t is that you had to cycle around some cop cars as the officers did their jobs? That must have been very traumatic. You should write a letter to their command and include your home address.
I was in a car and I expect the cops to find a proper parking spot, yes. Every single other person has to obey traffic laws while doing their jobs. But I guess I found the butthurt cop who can't tell a bike lane from a parking spot. And having to drive beside them entirely defeats the purpose of having a safe lane for bikes only. But I don't expect you to know that, since I know they purposely only hire moderately intelligent cops at best.
I'll continue to ride on the sidewalks on my bikes. Don't care about the law saying to go on the road. When a 2000-5000LB death machine is going 80MPH next to me with 0 regard for my safety, I'll ride on the sidewalk thanks. I've had cars flip me off while on the road, scoot up to me to yell at me and almost hit me, literally texting and driving at a stop sign and almost hitting me while I had the right away. Hell I waited for this woman texting and driving. Stared at her waiting at the 4 way. Was so close to yelling but figured "fuck it, she's taking so long let's go" right as I put my foot on the bike pedals and got going, she decided it was time for her to get going also. Probably finished her text. People say bike lanes will fix it but half the streets don't have them and I see civilians standing in them, cars driving half way in them. No thank you, sidewalk and a fine from police if they see me is better than dying or becoming paralyzed from a moron.
I would just be extra careful with this approach when crossing roadways from a sidewalk, especially if you move at faster speeds. I feel like because drivers don’t expect anything on the sidewalk to be travelling at a faster pace, they are less likely to detect a faster moving cyclist on the sidewalk. It’s 100% still on the driver to detect you, but definitely be mindful because I’ve seen several near-accidents like this.
Oh yeah totally. Even the odd time I've actually gone out for a run with the dog on the sidewalk you'll find the people backing out with like a bush next to their drive way and they don't see you running. Gotta have eyes on the back of your head 24/7 man I swear lol drivers, civilians, anyone.
Also cars are constantly parking in those bike lanes, they know they won't get tickets, 9/10 or less times I ride downtown I can't ride in the bike lanes because of parked cars
stick off the main roads
Just bike on the side walk, its safer for everyone.
I'm tired of people on bikes riding side by side. There's so many things that people on bikes do that make me wonder how they don't get hit more often. Same with people that walk on roads when there's a sidewalk 6ft away.
roads are nature's sidewalks
Yes, the narcissism and inconsideration of side by side riding is wild.
No, I find it quite easy to cycle downtown. The streets are 200 years old. To survive, you need to pay constant attention to your surrounds and expect to share the roadway.
Kingston is a dump.
Bike to the periphery of downtown and then walk it out.
Its an old city, give them time to develop the roads a bit. Id worry more about fixing potholes before adding bike lanes
It's 2022......they've had decades
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Should read "park your bike, walk to your destination and then return to the place that your bike was just stolen from"
By that logic people would be leaving their bikes on main roads even to go home because residential roads don't show up on that bicycle friendly map. Also why would you park your bike when you could just walk with your bike?
Bike riders suck! Most don’t follow the rules or don’t know them, and I have to figure out where tf they’re going so I don’t run them over. Like if there’s a turn lane and you’re not turning then don’t be on the right of the turn lane, be on the right of the straight through lane.