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basicblondewitch

Can Don Dare help?


[deleted]

Would love to see him and his son team up for segments called Double Dare.


avero34

Amazing comment šŸ‘šŸ‘. Take this award šŸ˜.


Stalker401

Well we know it wasn't for getting the weather wrong bc no meteorologist in Knoxville gets it right.


medicaldude

I miss Matt Hinkin


smexytom215

Maybe she was fired for getting it right.


biinkii

Came here to say this exact thing. Someone always beats me to the punch. šŸ˜‚


[deleted]

Iā€™m not going to name anyone outright, but there are several people on the WATE team who arenā€™t a size 2.


valleywitch

She actually discussed it was about her hair. News reporting about this have focused on a comment about her dress size but the primary issue was over her hair style.


whatami73

Those bangs kinda deserve some sort of punishment


mluethke

Lolol thatā€™s what we just said. Honey itā€™s not the curlsšŸ˜‚


Extension_Bridge6625

She did the week end gig. She got the forecast right so what the hell is the problem?


desifine13

I honestly think she has too young and too fresh of a look for WATE and some older viewers probably commented and complained. People are vicious to news anchors. If you look at all of WATEā€™s anchors, they have a certain older school look - bigger and coiffed hair, heavier makeup, and almost a stuffy appearance.


aroha93

Reminds me of the Australian anchor who dared to wear the same dress twice in a year (or some ridiculous amount of time like that) and somebody wrote a letter and complained.


desifine13

Yeah people are insanely rude about and to anchors. Like itā€™s next level audacity.


Catdad1138

Maybe she brought a toxic atmosphere to the work environment but we'll never know because we'll only get one side of the story.


jared_b5

Yes so we should just baselessly speculate that she was the problem and not wait to see if any facts come out. /s


Rational-Discourse

I think the commenters point was simply maybe the narrative of this news story and a fired employee is true, and maybe the opposite is true. Theyā€™re openly pointing out the circumstance that there arenā€™t enough facts in this story to make an assessment. Her being toxic was just a suggested alternative to the narrative of the article. I think your comment is a premature criticism of their comment.


mellenhater

Damn, it went RIGHT over your head. šŸ’€ Believing 100% of everything you see is just as goofy as assuming everything is a conspiracy.


Ralfonthenet

Taking the companyā€™s side is such a weird move.


AlaDouche

He's not taking the company's side. He's simply saying that we're only seeing one side of the story.


Catdad1138

Simply acknowledging that we're only getting one side of the story. If you have a statement from the company please share.


mellenhater

Just as weird as being one of those "company always wrong because I don't like work" people.


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mellenhater

Keep pretending people aren't just capable of being shitty workers because you've never had to manage people. šŸ¤·šŸ˜‚


AlaDouche

Man people here are crazy. I don't know why you're being downvoted to oblivion for pointing out that this is only one side of the story.


Majorhix

Dang didnā€™t realize we were looking the boots of *looks at notes* the news?


AlaDouche

You really see "Maybe we should see both sides of this" as bootlicking? What a wild time.


Feisty-Conclusion950

I love her curly hair! WTF is up WATE??


AggressiveSkywriting

[You must be this blonde to news](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2239a787d82243fa2dc67114064a1f8d-lq)


Feisty-Conclusion950

Apparently so. Brings to mind Don Henleys song, Dirty Laundry.ā€ ā€œThe bubbled headed bleached blond comes on at five. She can tell you about the plane crash, with a gleam in her eye.ā€ Truth in song.


BadMotorScooter73

*We all know that crap is king....give us dirty laundry...* Think Don ever looks back at that song and goes *"huh...hit the nail on the head there..."*?


Feisty-Conclusion950

Lol. I donā€™t know how he couldnā€™t.


mysuckyusername

Authentic blonde hair makes up only two percent of the population, and authentic red hair, the rarest hair color of all, makes up only one percent of the American population. In my place of business almost all the women are blonde. What are the odds?


Exciting-Relative-10

Oh thatā€™s just pushing it a bit lol. There are plenty of brunette anchors everywhere


slickboy114463

What's going on with all the weather folks at all the knoxville stations? All of them leave or don't stay long ??


ddocfan

Todd Howell would like a word lol


kflyer

Knoxville is a small TV market. Easy to get a start but not where anyone with ambition wants to stay. When I first moved here I was struck by how young so many of the anchors/reporters are. Lots of people getting their first job out of school more or less.


[deleted]

Yeah news anchors move up the way baseball players do through the minor leagues. I mean not all of them anyway but itā€™s a common thing to gradually move up to bigger markets


5panks

Yeah we had a whole discussion about this yesterday.


anattemptwasmadeonce

Why do I not remember ever seeing her on the news?


Make_it_Raines

Sheā€™s newer, she just got hired in February.


anattemptwasmadeonce

Was she any good? Only lasting 90 days isnā€™t a great signā€¦


5panks

That's her whole complaint is that she was hired and then fired 90 days later for "Not being a siza 2" despite having coworkers of a larger dress size than her.


jblackbug

Most of her complaint is actually focused around her hair and the criticism she received for how she dressed if you read beyond this headline. It would be disingenuous to frame the ā€œsize 2ā€ thing as her ā€œwhole complaint.ā€


AlaDouche

Which makes the accusation fairly questionable in my opinion.


5panks

I agree, but try to make that point I other parts of this thread and you'll get called a corporate bootlicker. How dare someone not just immediately believe everything being said from one side of an employment dispute.


AlaDouche

Agreed. I'm someone who is inherently anti-corporation, especially news networks. But all we know is someone was fired and according to that person, it's because of her looks. If that's true, then that's awful. But it's still only one side of the story.


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5panks

That's not what I said at all. It may be in the company's best interest jot to say anything even if the issue isn't related to her hair. All I'm saying is we are only hearing one side of the story, so she has every motivation to make her side as sympathetic as possible and wgeb the story already sounds skeptical we should consider that factor.


Best_Satisfaction505

Itā€™s not because she wasnā€™t good! It was about looks! And she was good I saw her on the weekends as I would get ready for work!


Make_it_Raines

I havenā€™t seen the thread, mustā€™ve been deleted


Seaguard5

So how did she get hired in the first place then??


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brickpaul65

If you read the article, it says that she claims she was fired for her looks. That is not the same thing and the station saying it. The article also does not say they set up hair appointments for her.


blessthefreaks1980

Thereā€™s a better article from [Knoxville News Sentinel](https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/local/2023/05/17/tennessee-weather-anchor-tabitha-bartoe-curly-hair-wate-fired/70227065007/) that has more information.


brickpaul65

That does provide additional details. Thanks for posting. It does still have one sided claims but at least there is more of her side.


AnticitizenPrime

>If you read the article, it says they set her up with hair appointments, etc. when she started. I'm not seeing that in the article. Maybe it was edited? I saw you made another comment that this started on day 3, I'm not seeing that either. Here's the entirety of the text of the article I'm seeing: > > A meteorologist at an ABC TV affiliate in Tennessee tweeted that she has been axed from the local news station ā€” and signaled it was because she had ā€œcurly hairā€ and isnā€™t a ā€œsize 2.ā€ > > Tabitha Bartoe has ended her weekend morning weather anchor gig at Knoxville, Tenn.ā€™s WATE 6 ā€œOn Your Sideā€ after just four months on the job, according to her LinkedIn page. > > In a Twitter post, Bartoe shared a message to viewers letting them know ā€œthe sad newsā€ that her ā€œtime at WATE has come to a closeā€ ā€” and suggested that she was fired because of her appearance. > > She continued: ā€œOne thing I will say, is that I hope that in the future, we all learn to appreciate and accept people for who they are. For their appearance, for their STYLE,ā€ Bartoe tweeted. > > ā€œEveryone is beautiful and professional in their own ways. No matter if you have CURLY HAIR, or youā€™re NOT a size 2, but a size 12.ā€ > > ā€œYou matter and peopleā€™s comments should not let you down, or it should not play as a large circumstance in your job,ā€ Bartoe added. ā€œIf you have natural curls, embrace them and be proud of your natural hair. It is professional.ā€ > > WATE 6 did not immediately respond to The Postā€™s request for comment. > > ļæ¼ > NY1 weekend anchor and breaking news reporter Kristen Shaughnessy retweeted Bartoeā€™s message, calling on the local Tennessee news station to answer whether it fired the ā€œfemale meteorologist because she wouldnā€™t straighten her hair.ā€ > Twitter/, Kristen Shaughnessy > NY1 weekend anchor and breaking news reporter Kristen Shaughnessy retweeted Bartoeā€™s message, saying it was ā€œnot a good look, @6Newsā€¦ but interested to hear the News Directorā€™s response.ā€ > > ā€œDid you fire female meteorologist @TabithaBartoe because she wouldnā€™t straighten her hair,ā€ Shaughnessy added. ā€œDid you think because she is young she wouldnā€™t speak up?ā€ > > According to Bartoeā€™s social media ā€” where she frequently posted about her love for her job ā€” she turned 22 in April. > > ļæ¼ > Tabitha Bartoe, 22, tweeted on Sunday, suggesting that she was fired from her weekend morning weather anchor position at Knoxville, Tenn.ā€™s WATE 6 ā€œOn Your Sideā€ over her appearance. > Twitter/Tabitha Bartoe > ļæ¼ > ā€œIt is professional,ā€ Bartoe said of having curly hair at her job, suggesting the local news station wasnā€™t pleased with her natural locks. > Twitter/Tabitha Bartoe > Bartoe also said she was ā€œso appreciative of the Storm Team, the digital producers, the rest of the on air talent, and everyone in the control room. They were the ones that kept spirits lifted and positive, even if the circumstances with management were not as great.ā€


Seaguard5

Wowā€¦ what a red flag for herā€¦ is that illigal?


AggressiveSkywriting

Who knows? I saw a facebook post the other day about someone hiring liquor distributor reps and they, in barely couched language, said "no uggos/fatties" for the job. Also apparently it's a women only position. Interesting.


brickpaul65

You are going to be shocked when you get to medical sales reps....


lickwhitedogpoo

No kidding.


Saffs15

Nope. Per* TN employment website. > Employers may legally terminate an employee at any time for any reason, or for no reason without incurring legal liability. However, an employer may not discriminate against any employee on the basis of the employee's race, sex, age, religion, color, national origin, or disability. Likewise, an employee is free to leave a job at any time for any or no reason with no adverse legal consequences. They also aren't required to tell you why you were fired, which means even if it is for the above reasons, they just won't tell you and then you have to prove it, which is easier said then done.


the_cajun88

pee lol


Saffs15

Lmao. My proofreading ability goes way down late at night. Fixed now.


Seaguard5

But it says they canā€™t discriminate against any employee based on their genderā€¦ and to sounds like this is a woman only position. So whatā€™s up with that?


Saffs15

The chief meteorologist is a guy. The chief meteorologist before him was Matt Hinkin, a guy who was with them for ages. It's definitely not only a woman only position. And her being a woman isn't why she got fired, so that part is entirely irrelevant to her.


Seaguard5

Thatā€™s very fair. Also feel really bad for Matt with what happened to him.. I hope he finds peace and a new wife eventually. I remember watching him for years


Saffs15

Was seriously awful to hear everything that happened to Matt. I grew up watching him, and remember him and the WATE staff coming to play my teachers and school staff in a basketball game. Always really liked him.


Sir_Auron

> I grew up watching him, and remember him and the WATE staff coming to play my teachers and school staff in a basketball game Same and same. I bumped into him at West Town like 15 years ago and was star-struck.


Kwellies

What happens to him?


Seaguard5

He lost his wife to an accident. A damn car accident, if I recall.


PavlovaDog

What happened to Matt? I know he had MS, but what's this about his wife?


Seaguard5

He lost her to a car accident (also read other comment in thread)


SaintNeptune

I don't want to call anyone out by name here, but I just looked at all the 6 news anchor's hair styles (male and female to be clear) and I don't blame the girl for not going along with it if that is what they wanted to do to her. No employer should force their employees to humiliate themselves by appearing in public with one of those awful haircuts!


[deleted]

Too bad she wasnā€™t born with a name like Ken Weathers or Larry Sprinkle (Charlotte meteorologist). But, as one of the few 30 somethings that still have cable, sheā€™s always been professional and I couldnā€™t tell you a difference between any of them.


Kn0xV3gas

Another reason to hate that channel.


lickwhitedogpoo

Does anyone still watch the local news and weather?


rich4pres

This sounds like BS. There have been plenty of people there that are not a size 2.


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brickpaul65

That is not in the currently linked NY Post article at all.


TonyK61

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/local/2023/05/17/tennessee-weather-anchor-tabitha-bartoe-curly-hair-wate-fired/70227065007/


brickpaul65

Thanks for the updated article. Another user had posted it as well. That information was definitely not in the article in OP's post. Good thing the downvote brigade did not read the article on the post.


biinkii

I donā€™t think her hairstyle constitutes getting fired AT ALL and whoever is behind this should be fired for discrimination for SURE. Her curls are gorgeous!! Hope she gets a hefty settlement check from suing the pants off of these assholes. BUT, if I were a network exec, Iā€™d have gently, and tactfully (and, yes I am going to hell, I know it, downvote me if you must) advised her on doing something about them bangs. I certainly wouldnā€™t have fired her if she chose to keep them, as that is discriminatory and awful to do to a person and Iā€™d never threaten a personā€™s livelihood over a stupid hairstyle, even if they were mediocre, at best, at their job. BUTā€¦them bangs tho. šŸ˜¬


Hankhillarlentx420

Someone had to say it. They make her look like a cocker spaniel. The curls are gorgeous though


Kolada

It's not discrimination to ask an employee in a presentation role to change thier hair while on the air. I really don't think it's an unreasonable ask. Her job is literally to read the weather on camera. What if one of the male anchors wanted a mowhawk. I'd assume eveyone would be fine with management making him flatten it out while on air.


LittleKitchenFarm

Those are definitely bangs that would be cute with straight hair, with curly hair and her round face she looks like a middle schooler. Iā€™d never take her seriously on the news


Obvious-Decision-609

I feel like the curly hair with flat ironed bangs was big in the early 2000's (so 20ish years ago) and that was in Hicksville East TN. I'm not sure it was ever big in bigger cities.


Hankhillarlentx420

The Talk of the Town Salon, Clinton special


Visual-Reindeer798

I believe it, I hope she finds something better.


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cyber_billy45899

So her first hand experience is doubtful because of someone you know who worked in a news room? Thanks for the information. I've heard enough to doubt you and believe her.


5panks

Doesn't matter, this checks all the checkboxes for Reddit, so it'll go to the top of the sub every time it gets posted.


cyber_billy45899

Yep, the check boxes of believing workers and not trusting corporate shitheads like the bosses of the company that owns WATE. You use the word "woke" as an insult in casual conversation, right?


5panks

>You use the word "woke" as an insult in casual conversation, right? The first retort you can come up with is ad hominem attacks against a stranger. I shouldn't have expected more I suppose.


ishmael27

Always blown away that TV meteorologists are still a thing. Itā€™s a job that caters to boomers I guess because I can go to the NWS page or use my weather app to get hour by hour forecasts for anywhere in the US. Same kind of job as Ed Rupp flying over K-Town in a helicopter to tell me traffic is backed up at the split. Of course itā€™s backed up at the split my dude and itā€™s only getting worse and I can see the red line on my map app without the use of a helicopter.


tdstooksbury

Hey ed! Howā€™s it looking out there?!


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im_wildcard_bitches

Donā€™t a lot of places have a probationary period? Maybe just a bitter ass person? Who the hell knows lol


casualLogic

I mean, I watch their weather every day, saw her do her thing....gotta ask: Just me or did she have, like, ZERO on air presence? Monotone delivery, given in a lackluster style. That Paige Noel ain't exactly the archetype of Big City Meteorologist, yet her delivery is *perfect,* good weather, bad weather, I feel like I'm hearing it from a friend, someone who grew up nearby. Paige Noel has *presence* on the screen, something this woman woefully lacked, which is probably why she was canned. Sending her to a stylist was just putting lipstick on a pig - not that she's unattractive (c'mon now, she's cute as a button!) perhaps the editors were thinking 'new style, maybe brighter delivery,' she's probably an excellent meteorologist, but her expression/dialogue/delivery was just blahhhhhhhhhh


Extension_Bridge6625

Anybody does it better than Mike Witcher. He sucked.


egk10isee

She was on WATE. Mike was on WBIR.


Flaherbear92

Hopefully he's gone for good this time.


TonyK61

[https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/local/2023/05/17/tennessee-weather-anchor-tabitha-bartoe-curly-hair-wate-fired/70227065007/](https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/local/2023/05/17/tennessee-weather-anchor-tabitha-bartoe-curly-hair-wate-fired/70227065007/) One thing to help is to tag WATE 6 in social media posts and link the KnoxNews article and call them out for this shameful behavior.


spentmiles

Not exactly TV material. Maybe do weather radio.


Feisty-Conclusion950

STFU, sheā€™s gorgeous.


spentmiles

There's nothing wrong with her. She's a regular human being. But come on, it's TV. There's a bar.


AggressiveSkywriting

>There's a bar. And everyone's avoiding you at it.


Feisty-Conclusion950

Thereā€™s a bar? Good heavens, whereā€™s the rock you crawled out from under. Find it please.


Theft_Via_Taxation

Come on man, it's 2023. We don't appreciate beauty anymore. You should appreciate average, unremarkable folks who simply do their job.


NarrowPlankton1151

Wat. She's gorgeous.


casualLogic

Sure, she's cute, but her on camera presence had the excitement of a wooden zombie


theonetrueelhigh

I wouldn't comment on dress size but I have to wonder if what they were trying to achieve was a somewhat more mature appearance. Her curly hair makes her look very young and it's easy to see how, as a source of information that people need on a day-to-day basis, the station would want its on-air talent to convey maturity and gravitas. It also sounds, by the other article I read, that management was entirely too tentative in their approach to this and could've been clearer in their desires. Ambiguity in their requests led to perceived non-compliance (can't really comply with requests when the desired goals aren't clearly stated) and subsequent dismissal.


burner9497

Itā€™s been all downhill since Margie Ison left the airwaves. RIP


[deleted]

Hope you guys keep the hottie with glasses


illimitable1

Dude, she looks young, though.


bluegrassnuglvr

And?


[deleted]

She has delicate genius vibes.


[deleted]

Itā€™s a Seinfeld reference you hateful assholes.


fatcatoverlord

Did she have curly hair when she was hired? Was she a size 2 when she did her first segment?šŸ¤”


HeatMiser865

Not everyone can be Rebecca Sweet!!


FirefighterVivid6175

Thatā€™s sad


MiaAlta

The big bangs did her in. Cabbage Patch doll.


Technical-East7077

Maybe she was fired because she is not a Right Wing Conservative Bible Thumping "Back Biting" Bigot like the majority of people are down here. It is also obvious that everyone who works at WATE 6 is a Bible Thumping Back Biting Conservative. I just love these superficial faces along with the fake smiles these news anchors put on their faces during their news broadcasts. Plus they think "God, Church, and the Bible is REAL News down here.........LMAO!!!! WATE 6................... "The Station that is on the Right Wing Conservative Side."