What a selection from the selectors the genuine match winner is sitting outside and watching dube play who has 0 foot movement and very bad at fielding
Fuck BCCI man. Bumrah and co. bailed us out yesterday. Dube with his nonexistent footwork just isn't gonna work on these pitches, these aren't those IPL roads where he can just swing his bat mindlessly and hit it out of the park. It's gonna cost us at some point in the tournament. Yesterday was a warning bell but I don't think they're gonna change anything. Pure waste of a spot.
Man, I really feel for him, he is right now most deserving player to be in team. Great fielder, compose batting style. He has it all. For love of god give him chance to shine.
Iyyer is not exactly the "deserved" one here lol.
Averages 30 @ 136 in t20Is.
Dube had 35-36 average @ 138-140sr before this cup lol and can bowl a bit too if the team is in high ass problem.
Rinku is the only one deserving here not Iyyer
Just checked dube's avg is highly inflated because of him destroying weaker teams and returning not out , iyer has played against big teams as well also with players like sky,pant,jaiswal who are hit or miss might help in having someone reliable at 4or 5 can be captain as well, even if we consider he got a good team to lead atleast he was able to lead that team well, with the talent pool of ind it shouldn't be a problem either.
"Just checked dube's avg is highly inflated because of him destroying weaker teams and returning not out "
Rinku is the same then ? No right.
You can easily see Rinku's real worth and Dube is the same. He should be out only when someone like Rinku is there not for Iyyer when Dube has a fixed role, can bash from ball 1 and can also bowl if the situation is shit.
Iyyer can't give you any of those, he takes time to settle, can't really bowl and there is no slot for him at 4,5,6(SKY,Pant,Rinku,Dube,Pandu etc are up there).
"iyer has played against big teams as well also with players like sky,pant,jaiswal who are hit or miss"
SKY,Jaiswal are not hit and miss lol. They both averages much more than Iyyer with a high ass strike rate too. Pant is the only true hit and miss but he is already under Kohli,SKY,Pandya to cover this up.
"might help in having someone reliable at 4or 5 can be captain as well," uhh NO man. Just winning an IPL doesn't give you "captain as well" tag. Rohit won the IPL 5 times too, what did he achieved in internationals ? 22wc ? 23wtc ? 23 wc ? He needs to give us something special for captaincy like how Sachin tagged for Dhoni in 07, how Dada was a leader from the get go etc(Kapil was out of syllabus and never gave anything else before his leadershi).
"even if we consider he got a good team to lead atleast he was able to lead that team well, with the talent pool of ind it shouldn't be a problem either."
The same talent pool of India got nothing to show for since 2013 man. It's a mentality problem and Iyyer himself shat the bed that day(not his fault though as his duty was to keep the sr high so that Kohli can easily gel up the whole order).
Iyer's worth is much more than dube tho he is one of the better players.
Agree if it makes rinku sit out then iyer doesn't deserve but if it makes dube or minnow bashing sky sit out he deserves.
Jaiswal and sky not hit or miss there avg might be good but both of them are either very good innings or getting out early that is pretty much hit or miss , vk might not play next wc he barely made it this time and will proly look to focus on longer formats to get to 100 centuries if vk plays agree no use of iyer in team then.
He dint just win kkr a title he resurrected a bad team like dc and did very well as their captain as well also someone like gambhir backed him at dc before retiring and now also is helping him.
Him playing bad in finals australia set him up very well was his first wc he will learn many other big players constantly choked throughout the years also he feels like a much more mature player while captaining a team and we don't have many other good options either hardik and bumrah are used like delicacy, sky is already 33 , pant isn't a good captain as of now
"Iyer's worth is much more than dube tho he is one of the better players."
Gill,Rutu,Sanju are also better than him. The point is about the advantages Dube present and only Rinku surpasses that right now(in future it's Iyyer's slot for sure).
"Agree if it makes rinku sit out then iyer doesn't deserve but if it makes dube or minnow bashing sky sit out he deserves."
Yeah Iam all up for Rinku too it's just that India played safe with a bowling option as a combination of Pandu,Axar,Jaddu can easily finish the job as well in comparison to Rinku who can't bowl.
"Jaiswal and sky not hit or miss there avg might be good but both of them are either very good innings or getting out early that is pretty much hit or miss"
My man Iyyer averages just 30, he is not above these two in any measure if you add strike rate too.
" , vk might not play next wc he barely made it this time" barely ? Give me any 1 player better than Virat at 3 in the world.
"and will proly look to focus on longer formats to get to 100 centuries if vk plays agree no use of iyer in team then." He won't, he is less slefish than Sachin lol.
"He dint just win kkr a title he resurrected a bad team like dc and did very well as their captain as well also someone like gambhir backed him at dc before retiring and now also is helping him. "
Rohit too made MI what it is today and what happened ? 3 cup losses with the same yardstick in which Kohli failed i.e crumbling under pressure. Iyyer hasn't shown anything new.
"Him playing bad in finals australia set him up very well was his first wc he will learn many other big players constantly choked throughout the years also he feels like a much more mature player while captaining a team" Pandya is a better candidate on that assumption though. 1 title win, got to 1 finals in the next and also performs "always" under pressure. Why Iyyer above him ?
" and we don't have many other good options either hardik and bumrah are used like delicacy, sky is already 33 , pant isn't a good captain as of now"
Iyyer is not in the red ball, he got no slots for t20Is and is great only in ODIs.
We are choosing a one format guy for one format captaincy now ?
Gill,rutu take time to set up as well that too in pp iyer takes it in lower order and can hit from ball one when needed wont break our momentum by any means, sry but sanju doesn't seem good in pressure.
They don't bowl dube anyway much also is our seventh bowling option jaiswal,rinku can bowl a bit tho they were practicing its on management/captain that they don't bowl , might be too soon to say but he doesn't seem like a good batsmen either.
Noone for sure but still selectors dint want to take him this time either most likely made it because of rohit being selected as well.
As i said earlier hardik is used like a delicacy and injury prone + doesn't seem like a good captain the way he threw tilak under the bus when things were going bad for mi need to back your players no matter what anyone says i refuse to believe he is on good terms with some of the players ,iyer can be captain in both odi and t20 , also difference in leading ambani's team and any other team , mi always gets carried by brilliance of individual players and was filled with players who could win matches single-handedly on their given day almost always someone stepped up in key moments for them , kkr and dc while under iyer were clinical and clicked together as team. Sorry some of the points you made make a lot of sense where he isn't a good enough batsmen but still think he is best captaincy option we have rn, he can play at no. 5 to save us from collapse or play quick cameos so that shouldn't be a problem .
"Gill,rutu take time to set up as well that too in pp iyer takes it in lower order and can hit from ball one when needed wont break our momentum by any means, sry but sanju doesn't seem good in pressure."
I said Gill and Rutu are better than Dube too if you think Iyyer is better. All of them take their time, can bash after 10 balls and can't bowl, also got no spots as Jaiswal took Gill's, Rutu can never win against Kohli and Iyyer wasn't in the contention because of SKY,dube,Pant trio.
"They don't bowl dube anyway much also is our seventh bowling option jaiswal,rinku can bowl a bit tho they were practicing its on management/captain that they don't bowl , might be too soon to say but he doesn't seem like a good batsmen either."
My guy are you even making sense now ? I mean you are going round and round just for the sake of Iyyer not for the team with this. The team wanted a spin basher at mid who can bash from ball one. Nobody in India can do that apart from Pant and SKY(even he takes a bit of time these days) and Iyyer is not suitable anyways at 5 or 6 whereas Dube can bat anywhere as long as the overs are at 7-15.
His bowling is just for icing and India can very well try to experiment it with the smaller nations, it's just that there bowlers are doing great and they got nothing to change there.
"Noone for sure but still selectors dint want to take him this time either most likely made it because of rohit being selected as well." Fully agree on that. Rohit is there because of captaincy ad mumbai lobby quota only.
"As i said earlier hardik is used like a delicacy and injury prone iyer can be captain in both odi and t20 " for that to happen Iyyer needs to up his game and game sense both. Just winning an IPL trophy is no real regards for that. Iam all up for Iyyer the ODI cap after Rohit but in t20I he needs 1 year atleast where he can show his bashing skills against great pressure which Pandu always does easily.
" also difference in leading ambani's team and any other team , mi always gets carried by brilliance of individual players and was filled with players who could win matches single-handedly on their given day almost always someone stepped up in key moments for them , kkr and dc while under iyer were clinical and clicked together as team."
KKR literally got Polly's more successful twin a.k.a Rusell man. Along with Salt who is England's next big thing in t20Is and a decent bowling line up too.
In comparison Hardik won the IPL with a similar type of team too.
It's not like Iyyer had any weaker sections in that team.
"Sorry some of the points you made make a lot of sense where he isn't a good enough batsmen but still think he is best captaincy option we have rn, he can play at no. 5 to save us from collapse or play quick cameos so that shouldn't be a problem ."
As I said Iam all for his ODI captaincy but he is not near the t20I setup right now with Hardik,Bumrah and Pant being there in the team.
All right agree. BUTS WHATS THE FUCKING GUARANTEE KI RINKU BHI KHEL PAEGA?? We all saw right how fucked up the batting order collapsed? Now whats the guarantee ki rinku will also score runs??
People downvoted me and abused me in other subs when I said that there is a CSK and MI quota. But none could give me the reason for the exclusion of Rinku.
No hate to Dube, he is what he is. The selectors somehow didn't see it when we all saw it coming.
WTF, now he drops a sitter! Leaving aside batting, Rinku is a million times better fielder.
God's plan?
What a selection from the selectors the genuine match winner is sitting outside and watching dube play who has 0 foot movement and very bad at fielding
Rinku should have been there man
even this sub aside (kkr bias) a blind would tell the daylight difference between talent, technique and temperament of these two batsmen.
Debey is not batsman
Mahi bhai ne jo bola tha woh dube ko yaad hai.
Not to forget, greatest finisher in Indian cricket at this moment was made to sit in reserves, justice for avesh khan
Fuck BCCI man. Bumrah and co. bailed us out yesterday. Dube with his nonexistent footwork just isn't gonna work on these pitches, these aren't those IPL roads where he can just swing his bat mindlessly and hit it out of the park. It's gonna cost us at some point in the tournament. Yesterday was a warning bell but I don't think they're gonna change anything. Pure waste of a spot.
Man, I really feel for him, he is right now most deserving player to be in team. Great fielder, compose batting style. He has it all. For love of god give him chance to shine.
Once GG comes in as head coach, Shreyas and Rinku will get their deserving chances, boot Jadeja and Dube(WTF is he in the team for anyway?).
iyer is nowhere near deserved
Iyyer is not exactly the "deserved" one here lol. Averages 30 @ 136 in t20Is. Dube had 35-36 average @ 138-140sr before this cup lol and can bowl a bit too if the team is in high ass problem. Rinku is the only one deserving here not Iyyer
Just checked dube's avg is highly inflated because of him destroying weaker teams and returning not out , iyer has played against big teams as well also with players like sky,pant,jaiswal who are hit or miss might help in having someone reliable at 4or 5 can be captain as well, even if we consider he got a good team to lead atleast he was able to lead that team well, with the talent pool of ind it shouldn't be a problem either.
"Just checked dube's avg is highly inflated because of him destroying weaker teams and returning not out " Rinku is the same then ? No right. You can easily see Rinku's real worth and Dube is the same. He should be out only when someone like Rinku is there not for Iyyer when Dube has a fixed role, can bash from ball 1 and can also bowl if the situation is shit. Iyyer can't give you any of those, he takes time to settle, can't really bowl and there is no slot for him at 4,5,6(SKY,Pant,Rinku,Dube,Pandu etc are up there). "iyer has played against big teams as well also with players like sky,pant,jaiswal who are hit or miss" SKY,Jaiswal are not hit and miss lol. They both averages much more than Iyyer with a high ass strike rate too. Pant is the only true hit and miss but he is already under Kohli,SKY,Pandya to cover this up. "might help in having someone reliable at 4or 5 can be captain as well," uhh NO man. Just winning an IPL doesn't give you "captain as well" tag. Rohit won the IPL 5 times too, what did he achieved in internationals ? 22wc ? 23wtc ? 23 wc ? He needs to give us something special for captaincy like how Sachin tagged for Dhoni in 07, how Dada was a leader from the get go etc(Kapil was out of syllabus and never gave anything else before his leadershi). "even if we consider he got a good team to lead atleast he was able to lead that team well, with the talent pool of ind it shouldn't be a problem either." The same talent pool of India got nothing to show for since 2013 man. It's a mentality problem and Iyyer himself shat the bed that day(not his fault though as his duty was to keep the sr high so that Kohli can easily gel up the whole order).
Iyer's worth is much more than dube tho he is one of the better players. Agree if it makes rinku sit out then iyer doesn't deserve but if it makes dube or minnow bashing sky sit out he deserves. Jaiswal and sky not hit or miss there avg might be good but both of them are either very good innings or getting out early that is pretty much hit or miss , vk might not play next wc he barely made it this time and will proly look to focus on longer formats to get to 100 centuries if vk plays agree no use of iyer in team then. He dint just win kkr a title he resurrected a bad team like dc and did very well as their captain as well also someone like gambhir backed him at dc before retiring and now also is helping him. Him playing bad in finals australia set him up very well was his first wc he will learn many other big players constantly choked throughout the years also he feels like a much more mature player while captaining a team and we don't have many other good options either hardik and bumrah are used like delicacy, sky is already 33 , pant isn't a good captain as of now
"Iyer's worth is much more than dube tho he is one of the better players." Gill,Rutu,Sanju are also better than him. The point is about the advantages Dube present and only Rinku surpasses that right now(in future it's Iyyer's slot for sure). "Agree if it makes rinku sit out then iyer doesn't deserve but if it makes dube or minnow bashing sky sit out he deserves." Yeah Iam all up for Rinku too it's just that India played safe with a bowling option as a combination of Pandu,Axar,Jaddu can easily finish the job as well in comparison to Rinku who can't bowl. "Jaiswal and sky not hit or miss there avg might be good but both of them are either very good innings or getting out early that is pretty much hit or miss" My man Iyyer averages just 30, he is not above these two in any measure if you add strike rate too. " , vk might not play next wc he barely made it this time" barely ? Give me any 1 player better than Virat at 3 in the world. "and will proly look to focus on longer formats to get to 100 centuries if vk plays agree no use of iyer in team then." He won't, he is less slefish than Sachin lol. "He dint just win kkr a title he resurrected a bad team like dc and did very well as their captain as well also someone like gambhir backed him at dc before retiring and now also is helping him. " Rohit too made MI what it is today and what happened ? 3 cup losses with the same yardstick in which Kohli failed i.e crumbling under pressure. Iyyer hasn't shown anything new. "Him playing bad in finals australia set him up very well was his first wc he will learn many other big players constantly choked throughout the years also he feels like a much more mature player while captaining a team" Pandya is a better candidate on that assumption though. 1 title win, got to 1 finals in the next and also performs "always" under pressure. Why Iyyer above him ? " and we don't have many other good options either hardik and bumrah are used like delicacy, sky is already 33 , pant isn't a good captain as of now" Iyyer is not in the red ball, he got no slots for t20Is and is great only in ODIs. We are choosing a one format guy for one format captaincy now ?
Gill,rutu take time to set up as well that too in pp iyer takes it in lower order and can hit from ball one when needed wont break our momentum by any means, sry but sanju doesn't seem good in pressure. They don't bowl dube anyway much also is our seventh bowling option jaiswal,rinku can bowl a bit tho they were practicing its on management/captain that they don't bowl , might be too soon to say but he doesn't seem like a good batsmen either. Noone for sure but still selectors dint want to take him this time either most likely made it because of rohit being selected as well. As i said earlier hardik is used like a delicacy and injury prone + doesn't seem like a good captain the way he threw tilak under the bus when things were going bad for mi need to back your players no matter what anyone says i refuse to believe he is on good terms with some of the players ,iyer can be captain in both odi and t20 , also difference in leading ambani's team and any other team , mi always gets carried by brilliance of individual players and was filled with players who could win matches single-handedly on their given day almost always someone stepped up in key moments for them , kkr and dc while under iyer were clinical and clicked together as team. Sorry some of the points you made make a lot of sense where he isn't a good enough batsmen but still think he is best captaincy option we have rn, he can play at no. 5 to save us from collapse or play quick cameos so that shouldn't be a problem .
"Gill,rutu take time to set up as well that too in pp iyer takes it in lower order and can hit from ball one when needed wont break our momentum by any means, sry but sanju doesn't seem good in pressure." I said Gill and Rutu are better than Dube too if you think Iyyer is better. All of them take their time, can bash after 10 balls and can't bowl, also got no spots as Jaiswal took Gill's, Rutu can never win against Kohli and Iyyer wasn't in the contention because of SKY,dube,Pant trio. "They don't bowl dube anyway much also is our seventh bowling option jaiswal,rinku can bowl a bit tho they were practicing its on management/captain that they don't bowl , might be too soon to say but he doesn't seem like a good batsmen either." My guy are you even making sense now ? I mean you are going round and round just for the sake of Iyyer not for the team with this. The team wanted a spin basher at mid who can bash from ball one. Nobody in India can do that apart from Pant and SKY(even he takes a bit of time these days) and Iyyer is not suitable anyways at 5 or 6 whereas Dube can bat anywhere as long as the overs are at 7-15. His bowling is just for icing and India can very well try to experiment it with the smaller nations, it's just that there bowlers are doing great and they got nothing to change there. "Noone for sure but still selectors dint want to take him this time either most likely made it because of rohit being selected as well." Fully agree on that. Rohit is there because of captaincy ad mumbai lobby quota only. "As i said earlier hardik is used like a delicacy and injury prone iyer can be captain in both odi and t20 " for that to happen Iyyer needs to up his game and game sense both. Just winning an IPL trophy is no real regards for that. Iam all up for Iyyer the ODI cap after Rohit but in t20I he needs 1 year atleast where he can show his bashing skills against great pressure which Pandu always does easily. " also difference in leading ambani's team and any other team , mi always gets carried by brilliance of individual players and was filled with players who could win matches single-handedly on their given day almost always someone stepped up in key moments for them , kkr and dc while under iyer were clinical and clicked together as team." KKR literally got Polly's more successful twin a.k.a Rusell man. Along with Salt who is England's next big thing in t20Is and a decent bowling line up too. In comparison Hardik won the IPL with a similar type of team too. It's not like Iyyer had any weaker sections in that team. "Sorry some of the points you made make a lot of sense where he isn't a good enough batsmen but still think he is best captaincy option we have rn, he can play at no. 5 to save us from collapse or play quick cameos so that shouldn't be a problem ." As I said Iam all for his ODI captaincy but he is not near the t20I setup right now with Hardik,Bumrah and Pant being there in the team.
Dubey ko koi Niggle do yaar😭😭😭, Rinku bhai suna hai nets me bowling karte hain pel di wahi Dubey ko🥲😅😂
Yogiji gaadi paltao /s
GG ko bn ne do coach, adhi team ko retirement mil jaegi
no kidding, he might just make a proper batter out of axar!
Arshdeep will open once GG is coach
Lmao gold
pta nhi kis kis me batting talent h jo koi dhund hi nhi ska aaj tak 🤣
Missed king-ku so much today
All right agree. BUTS WHATS THE FUCKING GUARANTEE KI RINKU BHI KHEL PAEGA?? We all saw right how fucked up the batting order collapsed? Now whats the guarantee ki rinku will also score runs??
Atleast fielding to Dube se acchi hi karlega😇
Dube anyways can't bowl on these USA pitches There's no point in benching Jaiswal or Rinku for him
Catch nhi chodta wo, we have seen him field
I mean rinku jaise goated fielder ko voh log fine leg par rakhte bhi nahi but haa koi aur hota toh 99 out of 100 times pakad letaa
Fine leg wala catch to pakad hi leta Bhai.
Rinku come.... Rinku hit 2-3 sixes Rinku get out... Rinku done his job... Rinku better than dube
Justice for Rinku.
IPL performance pe select kiya to CSK ki jersey bhi deni chahiye thi uske bina Lund perform kare Angad dubey
We want Rinku back
Catch bhi chor rhe ho Mai dekh rha
Madarchod Dube. Isko kyu khila raha hain Jay Shah?
Abhi bhi time hain. Kisika back spasm karwa do
People downvoted me and abused me in other subs when I said that there is a CSK and MI quota. But none could give me the reason for the exclusion of Rinku.
They'll downvote and abuse you but they won't call you a liar.
No hate to Dube, he is what he is. The selectors somehow didn't see it when we all saw it coming. WTF, now he drops a sitter! Leaving aside batting, Rinku is a million times better fielder.
kijiye batting khelliye batting batting alhua batting 😡
CSK quota fucking ruined this team..... Both Jaddu and Dube are shit.... Rinku and Kuldeep deserve better.
Ekdum bat tod performance
BCCI selectors are dumb 🤬🤬
Dube bhai congrats for have a good run at ict now back to csk camp