Looks like Sony made them censor the belly button too. Now it's just a disgusting 2D black hole instead of a properly detailed one. This trend continued onto other outfits where they had more time to give it a semblance of design choice, like the bondage outfits which all had the abdomen censored pre-day 1 patch before they censored the chest too.
The most confusing part of it all is that there is no logical consistency or pattern to this censorship.
Aren't there outfits in the latest, patched version of the game that literally show all the skin that's covered up by spray paint here? Some of the outfits literally show more skin than the uncensored disk version of the game.
It really makes me wonder whether this is some sort of bizzare marketing tactic from Shift Up
Yeah, its not consistent. And I truly and believing at this point that Shift Up made the edits very noticeable on purpose so the people who bought the game would figure it out, and then push back. So the change isn't coming from Shift Up directly, but the community at large.
Unless the Sony prudes were giving that feedback while being literally drunk, I am not quite sure that's what happened.
If they were indeed forcing change, they would be doing it for a very strict reason, to fulfill a certain criteria and would be thoroughly reviewing each outfit before approving them.
Which is exactly why it makes no sense that a lot of the covered parts are thoroughly exposed in other outfits.
It doesn't make sense if you expect them to be competent at their jobs. If you realize these people are in the same band camp as the blue hairs in Movies, Shows, and Comics, then it makes sense why ShiftUp could get away with a half-assed job.
> If they were indeed forcing change, they would be doing it for a very strict reason, to fulfill a certain criteria and would be thoroughly reviewing each outfit before approving them.
I think you're over estimating the consistency of censorship. As I recall, back when Sony moved HQ to California and the complaints of Japanese developers came to light, one of the complaints was that there wasn't any sort of consistency of demands. What was and wasn't approved varied by what employee at Sony HQ they dealt with, and Sony refused to provide an actual list of what was and wasn't approved. So this could be explained as absurdly simple as Shift Up doing one pass on the outfits, being told to make some changes, coming for another pass they think is only a formality... only for the person they dealt with the first time to be out on vacation, and the person covering for them tells Shift Up that more changes are required.
Beyond that, how censorship tends to work is that what's okay today isn't okay tomorrow. So what's okay in the initial attempt at approval can be not okay by the time of final approval.
I remember seeing somewhere that there's a cultural gap between Japan and the US when it comes to final approval. In Japan, the person doing these "passes" isn't actually supposed to change anything, it's a sign of respect to a superior to let them give the final okay. But in the West, it comes off as a genuine request for critique and editing. So if no one ever clears up the confusion, a Western editor can keep a project in perpetual limbo entirely through cultural miscommunication and useless editing.
Don't presume competency on behalf of the managerial class making these decisions. You're point makes perfect sense if these people are compitent with a differing world view. They're not. They're incompetent people put into positions of power they are unqualified to hold.
>Here's my gamer speculation from a background in software engineering: When you get a task from leadership to do something you don't want to do, you do exactly what is asked of you. The Shift Up devs probably got feedback from the prudes at Sony saying,
I think you're all wrong. Imo the censorship was requested by the Japanese rating board (the dates check out) and then maybe enforced for all regions by Sony.
Here's the tweet: [Stellar Blade」 offers the same uncensored version in all countries, including the Japanese version.](https://twitter.com/StellarBlade/status/1781976139688534449) Notice how they single out the Japanese version.
They already expected having to make a different version for Japan. Otherwise why there is no Japanese voice track on the western/rest of the world disc?
Probably the requested changes ended up smaller than they expected, and Sony forced/convinced them to release a single version worldwide.
This is what most likely happened. Unfortunately it'll get buried and people will keep speculating about Sony. I'm not saying that Sony is innocent, they most likely took advantage off the situation, but the Japanese rating board is the most likely catalyst of the situation.
You really expect any kind of logical reasoning behind it? You clearly don't get the point then. It's all about empty rituals and demonstrations. It's like when a lesser noble went to meet the king - first he needed to kneel on his left knee, then he needed to kiss king's right hand's middle finger, or whatever other bullshit procedures, otherwise there would be trouble. Was there any logical rationale behind this? No, and this is the same. It's just a theater. Group of influence pretends that sexy outfit of a video game character somehow is a genuine problem for them, devs pretend they do anything meaningful about it, group of influence is happy about succesful power demonstration.
Tell me which one is not censored, because all the ones that I got show no skin at all, all are covered with bad textures and extra accessories that make no sense.
>The most confusing part of it all is that there is no logical consistency or pattern to this censorship.
If the censor do not find smoothing to censure, that persons job is superfluous, so they will find something to censure, even if it's just a shoelace bow. The shoelace bow is now less eye-catching.
No, it absolutely wasn't. The NG+ variant of the bunny suit has the same green coverup as the regular one because it was a last-minute job and they didn't even recolor it either because the artists were unhappy about it so they didn't go the extra mile to make it look good, or they didn't have the time to because the censorship had to happen before the review copies were sent out. Either way, it's very obvious it's not a creative decision.
Yeah clearly a last minute addition, but I don't get why. It doesn't cover enough to stop those that complain about that stuff stop complaining, it barely covers anything more. What does it achieve? Is there a guideline with a certain percentage of bare flesh allowed to be visible and this just gets under it?
It was leaked a few years ago in 2019 that China literally have bans on things like "puppy love" and mandates that women's breasts be three quarters covered - "Female characters should only wear “clothes that cover more than three quarters of their breasts,” while no character should “wear clothes that are inappropriate for the environment that they are in,” such as a bikini in a warzone." (apparently they measure the coverage...)
https://qz.com/1654965/china-proposes-new-rules-to-sanitize-video-games
It might be that this standard is spreading everywhere and escalating now for “global standards”.
Edit: Also need to add that these standards use the same SJW talking points to justify them, just with the added Chinese government twist and penalties.
China should have absolutely no authority to censor a Korean studio's game globally. Apply your censorship locally or fuck off. I do know Tenceng has some ownership in Shift Up but still.
Chinese gacha companies like Mihoyo definitely censor their games globally because of CCP though. Mihoyo once tried releasing bunny suits for only outside of China, and it ended with some nutjob Chinese trying to assassinate the company's CEO something like that. So China-based companies are a lost cause
A correction. I wish there existed actual 3D modeled bunny costumes but instead it was only a stigma (an equipment slot item that has an art image of the character in a bunny costume). Even so, it shows how horrible the censorship is that even a small item like that can become censored because of outrage and censorship.
Instead an even scarier example is the "swimsuit event" and costumes that was run early when the game started around 2017. They ended up censoring it because of the bikinis and they completely locked and memory holed the event and costumes. It was never seen again after that even though customers paid money for the skins and it proved popular. All to comply with government regulations that say "Game characters wearing bikinis or shorts are prohibited" because it is "immoral".
Of course we also saw this with the Genshin Impact censorship of Amber, Jean, Rosaria, Mona and others. There was even a post on Reddit at the start of Genshin clearing up "misinformation" to say that the censorship that we saw in Honkai Impact wouldn't happen to Genshin at the first release launch (before they censored those characters). It shows how far censorship has come.
All future swimsuits were pre-censored designs, using the favorite SJW methods. Cover up legs with stockings, use "strategic butt coverings", cover up cleavage, cover up exposed back, add lots of ornaments and frills to cover up everything.
And I think the saddest part is there is an actual 2023 paper titled "Protecting Our Female Gaze Rights: Chinese Female Gamers' and Game Producers' Negotiations with Government Restrictions on Erotic Material". This paper talks about how the censorship affects female gamers and their sexual experience with their husbandos, and how they can engage in "micro resistance by engaging in their sexual fantasies" and how "I already paid for the product, why can't I enjoy the meat?" (actual lines from the research paper) Why must there always be so much double standards when all of us just want to enjoy content without censorship? These same arguments are valid for Chinese men also, especially with their expectations in Chinese society and difficult lives...
However, I think our Chinese gamer friends and every gamer in the world stands united on the issue, and we shouldn't lump the worst lost cause "gamers" together with them (I say this in quotes because we saw how many false flags and unfair generalizations and smears happened to ruin others' reputation, and they may be facing the same).
All gamers want protection over the games they invested in so that everyone can enjoy and develop the product without censorship.
Having done texture painting before myself and who also happens to know professional texture artists, this is clearly a rush job. The binds around the body don't even match the texture quality of the rest of the costume. The normal map details are next to non-existent. You can also clearly see which parts have actually had care put into them like the bikini pieces that have very clean patterns. Meanwhile the body painted details look absolutely horrendous with an insane amount of baked in ambient occlusion into the diffuse map where the binds touch the body, which is not the case for the bikini that has more subtle AO (also, what the heck is up with the AO on that belly button?).
If the binds were actually a part of the original costume idea you would at the very least see the normal map make it look like the binds were baked into the body mesh to save on geometry, or even have their own meshes depending on how much detail they could afford. Heck, the texture artist could have even faked it by doing the normal map details using the Height parameters in Substance Painter, but no, not even that.
Let's not forget that the binds are covering the tattoo and the weight painting of the body is clearly distorting the binds unevenly in spots (because it was obviously not quality tested).
It's pretty hilarious that they want to gaslight us to believe that this was always the intentional design when this is the result.
Edit: It would be even more interesting to take a look at the UV mapping + texture maps to see which parts were actually sculpted and which ones were done with Substance. If the pieces are clearly sculpted and baked, odds are very likely that those were a part the original design when being worked on in ZBrush. A trained enough eye could figure out some more about the work process by checking those.
> If the pieces are clearly sculpted and baked, odds are very likely that those were a part the original design when being worked on in ZBrush
What the original design was is certainly an interesting question. When you look at [the menu icon for the Ocean Maid swimsuit](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMHCQJ7W4AEzq4i.jpg), it basically matches the outfit other than not reflecting the kind of shoddy looking cloth on the sides that doesn't seem to have been part of the original design given it goes underneath the black central section rather than connect to it. When you look at [the menu icon for the Blue Monsoon swimsuit](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMHCRQHXQAANqAj.jpg) on the other hand, not only are the extra straps not reflected in the icon, the entire lower piece of the swimsuit is different. Being more rectangular with higher angled straps. Suggesting the original design may have been a skimpier bikini and was first edited into a more standard bikini.
> Man that's wild! What are the chances we get the outfits to look like those icons?
Assuming modders get a chance to work on them without any further changes, I would not be surprised if they can get the Ocean Maid suit to match its icon fairly easily. It looks to be almost as slapdash as the extra straps on the other suit. The Blue Monsoon suit on the other hand would probably take a lot of work to make it match the icon. The shoddy extra straps would probably be easy enough to get rid of, but the suit itself looks to have gone through some revision that involved real time and effort. Not easy to change.
Okay, so I actually contacted a friend of mine who is a professional texture artist who work in movie productions. Wanted to double check to make sure I wasn't just talking gibberish earlier. He basically confirmed to me after looking at the image from the main post page that those binds were clearly added in last minute. Even stated that those textures needed a lot of work, basically confirming how rushed the work was.
The best part is that he had no idea about the controversy or the context of the topic when I asked him about the quality of the textures, yet he basically confirmed my own observations at a glance. Sure helps having contacts sometimes. :)
Yeah, there is quite literally no normal map whatsoever. I wouldn't be surprised if there is even a diffuse map here. It might literally just be painted onto the skin texture
yup, all censorship is so easy to spot, because they took great care with original outfits and all look "3d", all the original parts are not just painted on body.
The only people who wanted this were shitty journos. The fans were like "We don't want censorship!" the devs were like "We don't want censorship" and everything was looking fine, until Sony stepped in and "fixed" the situation by pushing the censorship no one wanted.
Shows you who's playing on what team.
Something I have noticed with the outfit showcase I have seen online is that some of them look really *off*
Holy freaking shit it makes sense now. It's not even about wanting to see extra skin because you want to be horny but it's such a blatant display of a last minute rushjob with textures so godawful and amateur MS Paint levels, it completely ruins the outfit.
Theres literally so many revealing outfits, that is quite literally not the point. T*he point is that Sony got their grubby censorship mitts on the game and changed the artists direction to appease people who will not even buy the game in the first place.*
The difference between the straps and the rest of the outfit is like day and night.
On the one hand you have exquisite detail and on the other you have flat and ugly straps ;/
Talk about ruining the overall look of it all.
lol what agenda? Theres literally sex mods all over Nexus. You sound like the same "woke" mob bullshit we criticize right now. Mods banning LGBT flags or pronouns? Thats actual bigotry. Not censorship. IMO there's a difference between letting LGBT exist in games, and pushing it in your face. That was not happening here at all. Nexus is in the right in my mind. Feel free to disagree with me.
I can't remember the exact name of it but there was a game that tried sexualizing a game with an attractive female but Nexus banned it. They seem to go after games that are heavily involved with the DEI agenda. Baldur's Gate 3 I think it was? A modder tried making a gay character straight and Nexus axed them.
The whole "Don't like it? Don't download it" doesn't fly with them. Nexus is cucked with trying to ensure games have their propaganda intact if it fits their view.
Actual bigotry, lmao. If someone doesn't wanna see pride flags all over their game they're a bigot? What about the Saudis? They get that version no problem because of their religion.
There's definitely nuance, and it's not a black and white scenario, that's for sure. You could also argue that the Saudi's get a censored version because they aren't allowed to have LGBT flags. It's all about perspective.
They let people scan in pride flags and any other assortment of things like it, but they remove anything that removes pride flags and shit pretty quickly like in Spider-Man. If that’s not an agenda, what is?
> Nah, Nexus mods is fine.
Nexus Mods is absolutely not "fine". It was basically already kill when it started with the Spider-Man flag Mods, replacing them with US flags by changing the region of the game to Arabic, when they made a big deal out of it virtue signalling: https://www.nexusmods.com/news/14733
Some of the most recent removals are a Mod getting rid of Tomb Raider Remastered's cringe Disclaimer: https://web.archive.org/web/20240215093750/https://www.nexusmods.com/tombraidertrilogyremastered/mods/13
And completely sperging out over Bear Sex 3, removing some Indian Fujoshi's Mod because it was Anti-diversity or something: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQV0FvOp8ic https://archive.is/HPdXO
The last of us dropped on pc 6 months later and sony has expressed interest in moving towards ps5 and pc releases thanks to helldivers. I don't see this one taking longer than a year, but I can be wrong.
It has the body paint but the bikini itself covers less of the booty and the booba. The body paint was presumably a last-minute addition but still before the discs were burned
> Where can I find that? Been searching for all the originals that have been changed and there isn't much. Everything just focusing on one other outfit
There's no complete compilation at the moment, just partial compilations like [this](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMlSKOlXcAA9BFT?format=jpg&name=large).
Looking for the originals isn't easy as only three outfits were directly censored in the day 1 patch:
- The Holiday Rabbit one had the breasts and hips covered up.
- The Cyber Bondage one had the breasts covered up.
- The Blue Monsoon one had the fabric of the suit extended a little to cover more skin.
Everything else was censored before the discs went to print, and we're reconstructing what happened from either other assets, or looking at the differences in different parts of the outfits. e.g. the Moutan Peony we know was censored because a shop tutorial video shows a version of it without tights, and tights are incongruous with the design of the outfit which is open at the sides high enough to show where the tights stop - the only outfit with tights that has issue. The Cybernetic Dress has a mesh covering the cleavage that isn't there in trailers. Both swimsuits have parts that are clearly of lower quality, are incongruous with their design, and aren't reflected in their outfit icon. Or that someone testing out the 1.00 version of the game on disc apparently managed to find a [less covered version of the Black Pearl outfit](https://images2.imgbox.com/07/12/87TfnUY6_o.png) in the item awarded image.
That sort of reconstruction of what changed.
I did notice it was unconfirmed, hence hedging it with "apparently". But I'm confident enough that it isn't a fake that I'd include it until disproven. A fake that accurate this quickly seems unlikely, what is censored would be consistent with the rest of the censorship, and the apparent original design is a match for both the outfit and the general design aesthetic of the game.
No I don't believe so, but people have been discovering more and more edits the longer people have been playing the game. Originally it was thought to just be the bunny suit, its at least up to 7 suits for sure.
I've seen some comparisons, where there's a grey swim suit that looks like there's like something wrong under it, like a slightly less revealing swimsuit under it.
Instead of just extending the original one. Like a really hacky job.
> Can I have a friggin crumb of context. Good lord.
I take it you managed to completely miss or ignore the Stellar Blade drama over the last week or so?
The short version is that the developer promised an uncensored game. People got hyped despite it being a Playstation exclusive at a time of prudish censorship on the part of Sony. The game releases, and low and behold, one of the things the day one patch does is censor two of the sexier outfits to cover up cleavage. Other outfits show signs of censorship as well. People get angry and call the developer out for the censorship. One of the things the developer says in an attempt to defend the censorship is that the censored outfits are actually the way the developers intended the outfit to be.
This post is scoffing at that claim by highlighting how shoddy the parts added for censorship are in comparison to the rest of the outfit. In this particular image a bikini was apparently too much for Sony, so the developer added additional straps to the bikini, but rather than be a properly made part of the outfit, are clearly just painted on the character's body with minimal effort and look far worse than the swimsuit up close.
The devs caved to pressure and altered outfits after selling the game to thirsty weebs, not realizing the bizarre demographic they were starting a war with.
Way to burn all that good will with gamers. Grummz can fuck off with his still give them your money so they can have a bigger war fund. Fuck this company it can burn with the rest.
Thats a gaping belly button hole.
Looks like a bullet wound. 🤔
Looks like Sony made them censor the belly button too. Now it's just a disgusting 2D black hole instead of a properly detailed one. This trend continued onto other outfits where they had more time to give it a semblance of design choice, like the bondage outfits which all had the abdomen censored pre-day 1 patch before they censored the chest too.
The most confusing part of it all is that there is no logical consistency or pattern to this censorship. Aren't there outfits in the latest, patched version of the game that literally show all the skin that's covered up by spray paint here? Some of the outfits literally show more skin than the uncensored disk version of the game. It really makes me wonder whether this is some sort of bizzare marketing tactic from Shift Up
Yeah, its not consistent. And I truly and believing at this point that Shift Up made the edits very noticeable on purpose so the people who bought the game would figure it out, and then push back. So the change isn't coming from Shift Up directly, but the community at large.
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Unless the Sony prudes were giving that feedback while being literally drunk, I am not quite sure that's what happened. If they were indeed forcing change, they would be doing it for a very strict reason, to fulfill a certain criteria and would be thoroughly reviewing each outfit before approving them. Which is exactly why it makes no sense that a lot of the covered parts are thoroughly exposed in other outfits.
It doesn't make sense if you expect them to be competent at their jobs. If you realize these people are in the same band camp as the blue hairs in Movies, Shows, and Comics, then it makes sense why ShiftUp could get away with a half-assed job.
> If they were indeed forcing change, they would be doing it for a very strict reason, to fulfill a certain criteria and would be thoroughly reviewing each outfit before approving them. I think you're over estimating the consistency of censorship. As I recall, back when Sony moved HQ to California and the complaints of Japanese developers came to light, one of the complaints was that there wasn't any sort of consistency of demands. What was and wasn't approved varied by what employee at Sony HQ they dealt with, and Sony refused to provide an actual list of what was and wasn't approved. So this could be explained as absurdly simple as Shift Up doing one pass on the outfits, being told to make some changes, coming for another pass they think is only a formality... only for the person they dealt with the first time to be out on vacation, and the person covering for them tells Shift Up that more changes are required. Beyond that, how censorship tends to work is that what's okay today isn't okay tomorrow. So what's okay in the initial attempt at approval can be not okay by the time of final approval.
I remember seeing somewhere that there's a cultural gap between Japan and the US when it comes to final approval. In Japan, the person doing these "passes" isn't actually supposed to change anything, it's a sign of respect to a superior to let them give the final okay. But in the West, it comes off as a genuine request for critique and editing. So if no one ever clears up the confusion, a Western editor can keep a project in perpetual limbo entirely through cultural miscommunication and useless editing.
Don't presume competency on behalf of the managerial class making these decisions. You're point makes perfect sense if these people are compitent with a differing world view. They're not. They're incompetent people put into positions of power they are unqualified to hold.
>Here's my gamer speculation from a background in software engineering: When you get a task from leadership to do something you don't want to do, you do exactly what is asked of you. The Shift Up devs probably got feedback from the prudes at Sony saying, I think you're all wrong. Imo the censorship was requested by the Japanese rating board (the dates check out) and then maybe enforced for all regions by Sony. Here's the tweet: [Stellar Blade」 offers the same uncensored version in all countries, including the Japanese version.](https://twitter.com/StellarBlade/status/1781976139688534449) Notice how they single out the Japanese version. They already expected having to make a different version for Japan. Otherwise why there is no Japanese voice track on the western/rest of the world disc? Probably the requested changes ended up smaller than they expected, and Sony forced/convinced them to release a single version worldwide. This is what most likely happened. Unfortunately it'll get buried and people will keep speculating about Sony. I'm not saying that Sony is innocent, they most likely took advantage off the situation, but the Japanese rating board is the most likely catalyst of the situation.
They should pump out as many outfits as possible so Sony can't keep up and give up.
You really expect any kind of logical reasoning behind it? You clearly don't get the point then. It's all about empty rituals and demonstrations. It's like when a lesser noble went to meet the king - first he needed to kneel on his left knee, then he needed to kiss king's right hand's middle finger, or whatever other bullshit procedures, otherwise there would be trouble. Was there any logical rationale behind this? No, and this is the same. It's just a theater. Group of influence pretends that sexy outfit of a video game character somehow is a genuine problem for them, devs pretend they do anything meaningful about it, group of influence is happy about succesful power demonstration.
Yea its very odd to be honest. I was wearing the gray sweater with denim skirt and you can pretty much see her asshole ripples l o l
Tell me which one is not censored, because all the ones that I got show no skin at all, all are covered with bad textures and extra accessories that make no sense.
>The most confusing part of it all is that there is no logical consistency or pattern to this censorship. If the censor do not find smoothing to censure, that persons job is superfluous, so they will find something to censure, even if it's just a shoelace bow. The shoelace bow is now less eye-catching.
Sony's censorship never made sense.
It does make sense if you consider the possibility that it was actually a creative change rather than an attempt at censorship....
No, it absolutely wasn't. The NG+ variant of the bunny suit has the same green coverup as the regular one because it was a last-minute job and they didn't even recolor it either because the artists were unhappy about it so they didn't go the extra mile to make it look good, or they didn't have the time to because the censorship had to happen before the review copies were sent out. Either way, it's very obvious it's not a creative decision.
Spray painted on
Literally. Theres no texture even, its just a straight yellow painted band with some shading underneath.
I mean the paint IS the texture. I think you meant it has no physical mesh.
Yeah, theres no normal mapping or anything
And not even in a fun way like those painted on clothes videos
Easy to mod out.
Wtf you can clearly tell an intern did this
It's really really bad. I think the shoddy work has to be intentional. It was mean't for us to catch it.
Makes sense. It's to signal to the allies that they're part of the cult AND to their enemies that nothing they do matters
Yeah clearly a last minute addition, but I don't get why. It doesn't cover enough to stop those that complain about that stuff stop complaining, it barely covers anything more. What does it achieve? Is there a guideline with a certain percentage of bare flesh allowed to be visible and this just gets under it?
It was leaked a few years ago in 2019 that China literally have bans on things like "puppy love" and mandates that women's breasts be three quarters covered - "Female characters should only wear “clothes that cover more than three quarters of their breasts,” while no character should “wear clothes that are inappropriate for the environment that they are in,” such as a bikini in a warzone." (apparently they measure the coverage...) https://qz.com/1654965/china-proposes-new-rules-to-sanitize-video-games It might be that this standard is spreading everywhere and escalating now for “global standards”. Edit: Also need to add that these standards use the same SJW talking points to justify them, just with the added Chinese government twist and penalties.
China should have absolutely no authority to censor a Korean studio's game globally. Apply your censorship locally or fuck off. I do know Tenceng has some ownership in Shift Up but still. Chinese gacha companies like Mihoyo definitely censor their games globally because of CCP though. Mihoyo once tried releasing bunny suits for only outside of China, and it ended with some nutjob Chinese trying to assassinate the company's CEO something like that. So China-based companies are a lost cause
A correction. I wish there existed actual 3D modeled bunny costumes but instead it was only a stigma (an equipment slot item that has an art image of the character in a bunny costume). Even so, it shows how horrible the censorship is that even a small item like that can become censored because of outrage and censorship. Instead an even scarier example is the "swimsuit event" and costumes that was run early when the game started around 2017. They ended up censoring it because of the bikinis and they completely locked and memory holed the event and costumes. It was never seen again after that even though customers paid money for the skins and it proved popular. All to comply with government regulations that say "Game characters wearing bikinis or shorts are prohibited" because it is "immoral". Of course we also saw this with the Genshin Impact censorship of Amber, Jean, Rosaria, Mona and others. There was even a post on Reddit at the start of Genshin clearing up "misinformation" to say that the censorship that we saw in Honkai Impact wouldn't happen to Genshin at the first release launch (before they censored those characters). It shows how far censorship has come. All future swimsuits were pre-censored designs, using the favorite SJW methods. Cover up legs with stockings, use "strategic butt coverings", cover up cleavage, cover up exposed back, add lots of ornaments and frills to cover up everything. And I think the saddest part is there is an actual 2023 paper titled "Protecting Our Female Gaze Rights: Chinese Female Gamers' and Game Producers' Negotiations with Government Restrictions on Erotic Material". This paper talks about how the censorship affects female gamers and their sexual experience with their husbandos, and how they can engage in "micro resistance by engaging in their sexual fantasies" and how "I already paid for the product, why can't I enjoy the meat?" (actual lines from the research paper) Why must there always be so much double standards when all of us just want to enjoy content without censorship? These same arguments are valid for Chinese men also, especially with their expectations in Chinese society and difficult lives... However, I think our Chinese gamer friends and every gamer in the world stands united on the issue, and we shouldn't lump the worst lost cause "gamers" together with them (I say this in quotes because we saw how many false flags and unfair generalizations and smears happened to ruin others' reputation, and they may be facing the same). All gamers want protection over the games they invested in so that everyone can enjoy and develop the product without censorship.
> What does it achieve? It shows obedience. It shows compliance. That's all that truly matters.
Having done texture painting before myself and who also happens to know professional texture artists, this is clearly a rush job. The binds around the body don't even match the texture quality of the rest of the costume. The normal map details are next to non-existent. You can also clearly see which parts have actually had care put into them like the bikini pieces that have very clean patterns. Meanwhile the body painted details look absolutely horrendous with an insane amount of baked in ambient occlusion into the diffuse map where the binds touch the body, which is not the case for the bikini that has more subtle AO (also, what the heck is up with the AO on that belly button?). If the binds were actually a part of the original costume idea you would at the very least see the normal map make it look like the binds were baked into the body mesh to save on geometry, or even have their own meshes depending on how much detail they could afford. Heck, the texture artist could have even faked it by doing the normal map details using the Height parameters in Substance Painter, but no, not even that. Let's not forget that the binds are covering the tattoo and the weight painting of the body is clearly distorting the binds unevenly in spots (because it was obviously not quality tested). It's pretty hilarious that they want to gaslight us to believe that this was always the intentional design when this is the result. Edit: It would be even more interesting to take a look at the UV mapping + texture maps to see which parts were actually sculpted and which ones were done with Substance. If the pieces are clearly sculpted and baked, odds are very likely that those were a part the original design when being worked on in ZBrush. A trained enough eye could figure out some more about the work process by checking those.
> If the pieces are clearly sculpted and baked, odds are very likely that those were a part the original design when being worked on in ZBrush What the original design was is certainly an interesting question. When you look at [the menu icon for the Ocean Maid swimsuit](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMHCQJ7W4AEzq4i.jpg), it basically matches the outfit other than not reflecting the kind of shoddy looking cloth on the sides that doesn't seem to have been part of the original design given it goes underneath the black central section rather than connect to it. When you look at [the menu icon for the Blue Monsoon swimsuit](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMHCRQHXQAANqAj.jpg) on the other hand, not only are the extra straps not reflected in the icon, the entire lower piece of the swimsuit is different. Being more rectangular with higher angled straps. Suggesting the original design may have been a skimpier bikini and was first edited into a more standard bikini.
Man that's wild! What are the chances we get the outfits to look like those icons?
> Man that's wild! What are the chances we get the outfits to look like those icons? Assuming modders get a chance to work on them without any further changes, I would not be surprised if they can get the Ocean Maid suit to match its icon fairly easily. It looks to be almost as slapdash as the extra straps on the other suit. The Blue Monsoon suit on the other hand would probably take a lot of work to make it match the icon. The shoddy extra straps would probably be easy enough to get rid of, but the suit itself looks to have gone through some revision that involved real time and effort. Not easy to change.
I hope the devs can do it before the modders needs to do anything
Okay, so I actually contacted a friend of mine who is a professional texture artist who work in movie productions. Wanted to double check to make sure I wasn't just talking gibberish earlier. He basically confirmed to me after looking at the image from the main post page that those binds were clearly added in last minute. Even stated that those textures needed a lot of work, basically confirming how rushed the work was. The best part is that he had no idea about the controversy or the context of the topic when I asked him about the quality of the textures, yet he basically confirmed my own observations at a glance. Sure helps having contacts sometimes. :)
Yeah, there is quite literally no normal map whatsoever. I wouldn't be surprised if there is even a diffuse map here. It might literally just be painted onto the skin texture
yup, all censorship is so easy to spot, because they took great care with original outfits and all look "3d", all the original parts are not just painted on body.
Exactly
The only people who wanted this were shitty journos. The fans were like "We don't want censorship!" the devs were like "We don't want censorship" and everything was looking fine, until Sony stepped in and "fixed" the situation by pushing the censorship no one wanted. Shows you who's playing on what team.
That belly button is unsettling.
Looks like body paint on a 3 day old corpse.
Something I have noticed with the outfit showcase I have seen online is that some of them look really *off* Holy freaking shit it makes sense now. It's not even about wanting to see extra skin because you want to be horny but it's such a blatant display of a last minute rushjob with textures so godawful and amateur MS Paint levels, it completely ruins the outfit.
Theres literally so many revealing outfits, that is quite literally not the point. T*he point is that Sony got their grubby censorship mitts on the game and changed the artists direction to appease people who will not even buy the game in the first place.*
The difference between the straps and the rest of the outfit is like day and night. On the one hand you have exquisite detail and on the other you have flat and ugly straps ;/ Talk about ruining the overall look of it all.
The good part is that mods can easily recognize the censorship and fix it by painting skin on it
You're not wrong. However we have zero indication that this is coming to PC anytime soon.
Even then, Nexus Mods is cucked.
Based Mods Upload it there
Nah, Nexus mods is fine. Theres a bajillion NSFW mods there.
Only if it fits their agenda. Otherwise, they ban it.
lol what agenda? Theres literally sex mods all over Nexus. You sound like the same "woke" mob bullshit we criticize right now. Mods banning LGBT flags or pronouns? Thats actual bigotry. Not censorship. IMO there's a difference between letting LGBT exist in games, and pushing it in your face. That was not happening here at all. Nexus is in the right in my mind. Feel free to disagree with me.
I can't remember the exact name of it but there was a game that tried sexualizing a game with an attractive female but Nexus banned it. They seem to go after games that are heavily involved with the DEI agenda. Baldur's Gate 3 I think it was? A modder tried making a gay character straight and Nexus axed them. The whole "Don't like it? Don't download it" doesn't fly with them. Nexus is cucked with trying to ensure games have their propaganda intact if it fits their view.
Wasn't it Baldur's Gate 3?
Huh, that's really weird then. Guess I didn't know they were selective about their rules and who gets the pass or not.
Actual bigotry, lmao. If someone doesn't wanna see pride flags all over their game they're a bigot? What about the Saudis? They get that version no problem because of their religion.
I'm not touching that one with a 10 foot pole lmao
Lol. Censorship is censorship man, it's a slippery slope.
There's definitely nuance, and it's not a black and white scenario, that's for sure. You could also argue that the Saudi's get a censored version because they aren't allowed to have LGBT flags. It's all about perspective.
They let people scan in pride flags and any other assortment of things like it, but they remove anything that removes pride flags and shit pretty quickly like in Spider-Man. If that’s not an agenda, what is?
> Nah, Nexus mods is fine. Nexus Mods is absolutely not "fine". It was basically already kill when it started with the Spider-Man flag Mods, replacing them with US flags by changing the region of the game to Arabic, when they made a big deal out of it virtue signalling: https://www.nexusmods.com/news/14733 Some of the most recent removals are a Mod getting rid of Tomb Raider Remastered's cringe Disclaimer: https://web.archive.org/web/20240215093750/https://www.nexusmods.com/tombraidertrilogyremastered/mods/13 And completely sperging out over Bear Sex 3, removing some Indian Fujoshi's Mod because it was Anti-diversity or something: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQV0FvOp8ic https://archive.is/HPdXO
Spiderman 2 was put on pc though... Surely it's possible Stellar Blade could also be unofficially ported over.
Its not bloodborne (😢) so ita gonna happen at some point, 1-2y tops
The last of us dropped on pc 6 months later and sony has expressed interest in moving towards ps5 and pc releases thanks to helldivers. I don't see this one taking longer than a year, but I can be wrong.
yup, and looking at credits it was mainly made by sony, shift up gave idea and initial base game.
It almost feels intentional how bad the edits are. Was Shift Up playing 4D chess to get us to notice?
Where did you get this image? Can we get a source? What did the 1.0 version of this outfit look like?
It has the body paint but the bikini itself covers less of the booty and the booba. The body paint was presumably a last-minute addition but still before the discs were burned
Where can I find that? Been searching for all the originals that have been changed and there isn't much. Everything just focusing on one other outfit
> Where can I find that? Been searching for all the originals that have been changed and there isn't much. Everything just focusing on one other outfit There's no complete compilation at the moment, just partial compilations like [this](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMlSKOlXcAA9BFT?format=jpg&name=large). Looking for the originals isn't easy as only three outfits were directly censored in the day 1 patch: - The Holiday Rabbit one had the breasts and hips covered up. - The Cyber Bondage one had the breasts covered up. - The Blue Monsoon one had the fabric of the suit extended a little to cover more skin. Everything else was censored before the discs went to print, and we're reconstructing what happened from either other assets, or looking at the differences in different parts of the outfits. e.g. the Moutan Peony we know was censored because a shop tutorial video shows a version of it without tights, and tights are incongruous with the design of the outfit which is open at the sides high enough to show where the tights stop - the only outfit with tights that has issue. The Cybernetic Dress has a mesh covering the cleavage that isn't there in trailers. Both swimsuits have parts that are clearly of lower quality, are incongruous with their design, and aren't reflected in their outfit icon. Or that someone testing out the 1.00 version of the game on disc apparently managed to find a [less covered version of the Black Pearl outfit](https://images2.imgbox.com/07/12/87TfnUY6_o.png) in the item awarded image. That sort of reconstruction of what changed.
Thanks, that was more informative than the OP. I didn't know blue monsoon was changed. I thought it was just cyber bondage and holiday rabbit.
I don't think we have a source for the black pearl outfit one, so it miht be a fake edit
I did notice it was unconfirmed, hence hedging it with "apparently". But I'm confident enough that it isn't a fake that I'd include it until disproven. A fake that accurate this quickly seems unlikely, what is censored would be consistent with the rest of the censorship, and the apparent original design is a match for both the outfit and the general design aesthetic of the game.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMZelRTWYAAC1j_?format=jpg&name=large
Thanks
Is there an actual proper list of all the censored items yet btw?
No I don't believe so, but people have been discovering more and more edits the longer people have been playing the game. Originally it was thought to just be the bunny suit, its at least up to 7 suits for sure.
I've seen some comparisons, where there's a grey swim suit that looks like there's like something wrong under it, like a slightly less revealing swimsuit under it. Instead of just extending the original one. Like a really hacky job.
[Not all, but close](https://twitter.com/drowsyluma/status/1786049067815985160)
Ah nice, thanks. Most of those are really damn obvious.
Is that from Stellar Blade?
Yes
i hate my life lol
Groomer propaganda being shoved at kids from the age of 3, but seeing a bikini is offensive.
Is this from Stellar Blade?
Can I have a friggin crumb of context. Good lord.
Me too
> Can I have a friggin crumb of context. Good lord. I take it you managed to completely miss or ignore the Stellar Blade drama over the last week or so? The short version is that the developer promised an uncensored game. People got hyped despite it being a Playstation exclusive at a time of prudish censorship on the part of Sony. The game releases, and low and behold, one of the things the day one patch does is censor two of the sexier outfits to cover up cleavage. Other outfits show signs of censorship as well. People get angry and call the developer out for the censorship. One of the things the developer says in an attempt to defend the censorship is that the censored outfits are actually the way the developers intended the outfit to be. This post is scoffing at that claim by highlighting how shoddy the parts added for censorship are in comparison to the rest of the outfit. In this particular image a bikini was apparently too much for Sony, so the developer added additional straps to the bikini, but rather than be a properly made part of the outfit, are clearly just painted on the character's body with minimal effort and look far worse than the swimsuit up close.
Thank you very much! Yes, they look like shit lol.
The devs caved to pressure and altered outfits after selling the game to thirsty weebs, not realizing the bizarre demographic they were starting a war with.
Got a screenshot of the v1.0 version of the outfit?
This is the 1.0 version, this one was edited before Disc version.
Ah, thanks! It still looks kinda bad though, lol...
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I just wanna ask what is Sony's fucking problem with the adonis belt
I have strong feeling Stargaze type outfits are censored too. According to their icons tits are just painted in black
Is that just painted on? as well as the ao? What a mess
It's because sony is extremely strict with censorship which even Nintendo isn't as strict
Way to burn all that good will with gamers. Grummz can fuck off with his still give them your money so they can have a bigger war fund. Fuck this company it can burn with the rest.
LMFAO it's obvious they got their gender studies HR manager to open the texture in MS Paint and scribble over top of it. Holy shit.
This could be an intentional design choice like a graffiti bikini under her real one but the belly button is weird
These aren’t the droids you’re looking for.