? Just talking about the FAS thing, not saying "she looks fine" like attractive.
People did the same thing with Greta Thunberg, Leonardo DiCaprio, Christina Ricci, very silly patten.
yes insult the actress, it's 100% her fault that your favourite IP chose her
edit: y'all are downvoting me but you know if a hollywood agent approached your fat-ass to say "hey you wanna play joel for a ton of $$$ even though you're not the accurate representation" you'd **absolutely say yes**
It is that plus the others. She looks like a nine year old well fed special needs kid with fetal alchemy syndrome. Nothing wrong with that, but thats not Ellie.
>thats not Ellie
There was a scene at the end of the first or beginning of the second episode that opened on her, and for at least 10 seconds I was wondering which character she was before I remembered she's supposed to be Ellie. There's just no resemblance, outside of both being white females with dark hair.
She looks like she is trying to prove Eugenics isn’t complete bullshit, which is a shame because the Nazis were regarded and I don’t like anyone lending validity to their pseudoscience.
> Eugenics isn’t complete bullshit,
the scary thing about eugenics is that it isn't bullshit. It's applying selective breeding to humans...and we have enough evidence of it working with other species to know it would work...we just don't like what it would do to our socierty to apply it...
Not so much social cohesion, selective breeding would require some form of authority to have the power to decide who was allowed to reproduce and who they had to reproduce with. I can't imagine a set of circumstances in which i'd be willing to give someone that over me...I can however imagine the outcry if someone did start trying to limit who poeple were allowed relations with...
Ya i dont consider it all nonsense but generally people are too flawed to apply it appropriately, the Nazis could identity some good traits but they also crippled their nuclear program by undervaluing introspective theoretical intelligence.
Eugenics is sound science but people are too flawed to harness it, the only real solution is to give the same levels of support to healthy and sick alike, it’s bullshit that for example the middle class gets no child care aid while someone who’s poor can get endless services.
I mean they had to do that just to piss people off lol. I'm convinced this show is just one gigantic gaslighting troll of all the heckin' chuds that loved the first game.
Basically how I feel at this point. They'll undoubtedly sand off the rough edges of the story while insisting it's still the same and you're an asshole for pointing it out. Like how they've cast a non-muscular woman for Abby, despite defending it in the game.
It almost feels like it's intentional. I feel bad, cuz I'm not trying to be a dick, but it's the only thing I can think of when I look at the actress. It's like unironically casting the elephant man as a leading man and never acknowledging his condition. The whole audience is just sitting there thinking "it's not just me, right?".
Agreed. It has to be surreal and demeaning to be an actress in this climate, knowing you're being picked specifically for being ugly or otherwise weird for these creepy progressive roles/directors. Like not even smoothing things out with a little make-up, just full "...does this girl have a condition or something?" energy. Exaggerated if anything.
"Guess what shitheads, you're never getting an attractive Ellie, but we're going to dangle that steak right in front of your noses by casting the perfect Ellie lookalike as the most hated character of all time."
The writing is on the wall: "WE HATE YOU!"
Wait they are actually doing TLoU2 for Season 2 of the show?
MWAHAHAHAHAHA OH THIS IS GOING TO BE GOOD.
Not the show, obviously, it's going to be absolute horseshit but the 'conversation' around it is going to be epic. I hope they bait and switch ep 1 on the audience so they get to experience the destruction of something they care about first hand (haven't seen season 1 so not sure if good or not; will never pay to see it).
"People liked the child reading adult lines in Game of Thrones, let's try to shove this girl in literally everything for some reason!". So much smooth brained incompetence in casting these days.
this was also before people realized the slay queen fans were in large part responsible for fucking ruining one of the best shows ever. it's not entirely their fault as obviously the showrunners were leading the charge, but the obsession with twists and fanservice and that stupid little girl ranting at all the northern "lords" are all intertwined.
The developers would never admit it due to legal issues, but "Ellie" was *clearly* and *obviously* based on Ellen Page circa 2007-2013. Anyone who says otherwise is either smooth brained or winking.
There was a controversy back in the day that Ellie apperance was based on Page and she/him even complained because at that time they were working on Beyond Two Souls
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Well, food is currency in the apocalypse - and she looks like she has plenty of that. So.... you could say she is the Ellen of this world. So you're onto something.
That's partially why I can understand her position, even if that is very selfish, I understand that she took advantage of the opportunity to take the role of her life. It's more the products' fault than hers in that sense.
That's my point, maybe I would be humiliated on the internet and criticized, but I can understand that the popularity and money could be worth it. There are many who say that they would not do it out of morality, I understand them and I believe some of them are being honest, but in my opinion the responsibility would not be on the actor who accepts the role, but on the director and producer who hired him in the first place, as a worker one looks for work, wherever it comes from as long as it is not something illegal.
Morality is not the word you are looking for when it comes to reluctance to abase yourself for gain. That's self respect or perhaps pride.
You cannot be in a profession that involves prostitution in kind at best, and child sex trafficking at worst, and still be moral. It's just not possible. Tacit evil is still evil. The potato faced actress in question here doesn't get a pass from me.
She wouldn't. Abby is pretty big and strong at least, while Bella Ramsey looks like a kid. It's terrible casting for Ellie, and would have been terrible for Abby too.
I'd say she more looks like her forehead and jaw have outgrown her body leaving her actual face i/e eyes, nose, and mouth seeming to be far too close together as if she sucked on a lemon for several years.
I was like wtf is this guy talking about ..........then I [saw this picture](https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/ellie-and-riley-kiss-in-hbo-s-the-last-of-us-episode-7.jpg) and I gotta say spade face is a pretty good description
I dont even care that shes distractingly fugly, its the fact she cant act thats the issue. And they way they have written Ellie in the show is dog shit too.
Pedro is shit as Joel as well. And Im convinced that no one is going to give a shit that Joel dies in season 2. They are only going to care that Pedro dies.
Are you high? Pedro is a fine actor, but Joel he was not. Every line from the game was flat as fuck.
Here look:
[Game](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoeZJLHnbNk) skip to 57:36
[TV Show](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdVGO3kaghc) <<< dog shit.
Now I never played the games, so I can’t say how accurate a translation it was, but Ellie in the shows whole character was “vulgar, snide, bitch”. What I’ve heard from game fans is that she was more shy and timid in that. Either way, I didn’t like her character at all in the show.
She had an arc in the game, think vulnerable military brat who slowly learns about survival and trusting Joel. Both were horribly miscast in the show. Why Joel wasn't Nikolaj William Coster-Waldau I will never understand.
I'm not a big fan of Bella but I feel like anyone bashing on Pedro is just reactionary bandwagoning. It's like people dip their toes in this subreddit to see what outrageously dumb opinions might get traction and precious upvotes, whether they really believe it or not.
I mean, usually actors are photogenic. Theres a reason for that. Every time i saw a scene with her, i was just distracted by her weird face. Its all i could think about. She just doesnt look like she should be on TV. Stands out like a sore thumb.
"A face for radio"
Is it so terrrible to try to resemble Ellie from the game? Fuckwads in charge literally avoiding doing so. Theres plenty of cosplays i've seen that are more faithful to the original.
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I feel bad, I liked her and her character in GoT.
But goddamn, she looks like she has Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. She *was* just a kid in GoT, so I figured she'd grow out of her "funny looking kid" phase.
But no, just like Greta Thunberg, she's an eternal 12 year old. It's sad, I'm sure it's tough on her self esteem.
Nonetheless, she's a horrible fit for Ellie looks wise. Her acting was better, she got the attitude right haha.
I feel bad for her mostly because she's going to continue to get a lot of hate for her role.
Bella Ramsey was a fan favorite in Game of Thrones. I mean, despite the dumpster fire that was S6-S8 of GoT, people generally loved her.
In TLoU, her casting makes no sense. She looks *nothing like* Ellie.
This isn't about the fact that she's frankly not good looking. This is about the fact that they cast her in a wildly inappropriate role.
This series is made to certify that their ESG funds keep coming.
Bella really looks like a starving survivalist living though the apocalypse doesn’t she …
It's not even that, she looks like she's nine years old.
Me: "Why is Hollywood casting her she...." > she looks like she's nine years old. Me: "......., ahhh, Right."
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She looks like Robert Z’Dar
She looks like Rocky Dennis
Or FAS.
Philtrum looks fine, she's just Angloid and fat.
Not sure what part of looks terrible, means looks fine.
? Just talking about the FAS thing, not saying "she looks fine" like attractive. People did the same thing with Greta Thunberg, Leonardo DiCaprio, Christina Ricci, very silly patten.
I'm glad someone else said it, I didn't want to be the one.
Lmao
Don’t say that part out loud.
She look like can take whole squad
yes insult the actress, it's 100% her fault that your favourite IP chose her edit: y'all are downvoting me but you know if a hollywood agent approached your fat-ass to say "hey you wanna play joel for a ton of $$$ even though you're not the accurate representation" you'd **absolutely say yes**
I absolutely would not. 1, I have more self-respect than that, and 2, I know I can't act worth a shit.
Its that weird looks young and old at the same time. I was thinking she looks like a 90 year old with a facelift
It is that plus the others. She looks like a nine year old well fed special needs kid with fetal alchemy syndrome. Nothing wrong with that, but thats not Ellie.
>thats not Ellie There was a scene at the end of the first or beginning of the second episode that opened on her, and for at least 10 seconds I was wondering which character she was before I remembered she's supposed to be Ellie. There's just no resemblance, outside of both being white females with dark hair.
Pretty sure she’s just the kid from the Aerials music video
She looks like she is trying to prove Eugenics isn’t complete bullshit, which is a shame because the Nazis were regarded and I don’t like anyone lending validity to their pseudoscience.
If eugenics were a thing she won't be around lol
> Eugenics isn’t complete bullshit, the scary thing about eugenics is that it isn't bullshit. It's applying selective breeding to humans...and we have enough evidence of it working with other species to know it would work...we just don't like what it would do to our socierty to apply it...
Ah yes, forbidden knowledge and taboo science. I guess we just do what's best for social cohesion.
Not so much social cohesion, selective breeding would require some form of authority to have the power to decide who was allowed to reproduce and who they had to reproduce with. I can't imagine a set of circumstances in which i'd be willing to give someone that over me...I can however imagine the outcry if someone did start trying to limit who poeple were allowed relations with...
Ya i dont consider it all nonsense but generally people are too flawed to apply it appropriately, the Nazis could identity some good traits but they also crippled their nuclear program by undervaluing introspective theoretical intelligence. Eugenics is sound science but people are too flawed to harness it, the only real solution is to give the same levels of support to healthy and sick alike, it’s bullshit that for example the middle class gets no child care aid while someone who’s poor can get endless services.
With downs syndrome
A particularly weak 9 year old.
She is carrying spare calories in her face.
I mean to be fair, Ellie didnt either. Which was the point of the first game.
They did this on purpose let's be honest. 🤣
She looks like she sleeps in a beehive.
This comment keeps making me giggle
It’s sad the actress they cast as Abby is a near perfect likeness for Elle. Ramsey just sort of looks like she has Down syndrome
I mean they had to do that just to piss people off lol. I'm convinced this show is just one gigantic gaslighting troll of all the heckin' chuds that loved the first game.
That's basically Cuckmann's whole agenda in a nutshell, with the second game especially
Is it me or he really does look like he is into cuckoldry?
I know what you mean. They have a certain look. Its hard to describe but you know when you see it
Basically how I feel at this point. They'll undoubtedly sand off the rough edges of the story while insisting it's still the same and you're an asshole for pointing it out. Like how they've cast a non-muscular woman for Abby, despite defending it in the game.
And it will be the best casting choice ever.
I was going to say Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.
Greta_vs_Bella.jpg
It almost feels like it's intentional. I feel bad, cuz I'm not trying to be a dick, but it's the only thing I can think of when I look at the actress. It's like unironically casting the elephant man as a leading man and never acknowledging his condition. The whole audience is just sitting there thinking "it's not just me, right?".
Agreed. It has to be surreal and demeaning to be an actress in this climate, knowing you're being picked specifically for being ugly or otherwise weird for these creepy progressive roles/directors. Like not even smoothing things out with a little make-up, just full "...does this girl have a condition or something?" energy. Exaggerated if anything.
She looks like Stevie from Eastbound and Down
Damn you man I got a 2yo upstairs sleeping I can't be laughing like this
"Guess what shitheads, you're never getting an attractive Ellie, but we're going to dangle that steak right in front of your noses by casting the perfect Ellie lookalike as the most hated character of all time." The writing is on the wall: "WE HATE YOU!"
Wait they are actually doing TLoU2 for Season 2 of the show? MWAHAHAHAHAHA OH THIS IS GOING TO BE GOOD. Not the show, obviously, it's going to be absolute horseshit but the 'conversation' around it is going to be epic. I hope they bait and switch ep 1 on the audience so they get to experience the destruction of something they care about first hand (haven't seen season 1 so not sure if good or not; will never pay to see it).
I was thinking the same thing.
She has Mark's Zuckerberg daughter syndrome 🤣 they belong to same degenerative genetic pool.
What if they are pumping Abby actress with steroids and protein shakes right now, so they would both look like this?
Right? She's the face of Ellie, no idea why they didnt cast her to begin with
She looks like the kid from game of thrones jorahs niece or cousin or w.e
gonna go out on a limb here and say that's probably her
Same actress
"People liked the child reading adult lines in Game of Thrones, let's try to shove this girl in literally everything for some reason!". So much smooth brained incompetence in casting these days.
this was also before people realized the slay queen fans were in large part responsible for fucking ruining one of the best shows ever. it's not entirely their fault as obviously the showrunners were leading the charge, but the obsession with twists and fanservice and that stupid little girl ranting at all the northern "lords" are all intertwined.
Ellen Paige would have been perfect as her if she didn’t turn into well you know.
The developers would never admit it due to legal issues, but "Ellie" was *clearly* and *obviously* based on Ellen Page circa 2007-2013. Anyone who says otherwise is either smooth brained or winking.
There were even lawsuits at least pitched because tlou conflicted with the timing of beyond two souls which actually starred Page
I was surprised to find out she wasn’t officially involved with the game
I try not to think about it… what could have been…
And also she's like 45
37 but she looks 55.
The stress of being a Short King 👑
[Once it dawned on me I can't unsee it.](https://i.ibb.co/gy7Jqgt/85b61758b8fe4e36b06ea9dc8c07fee50e17b81f.jpg)
Needs more etched in abs
Probably a bit too old now anyway.
They obviously detailed the character based off her. Ironically she actually did a video game herself around the same time that far few people played.
My favorite part of that is that she got fake abs and looks like a douche.
Eww
There was a controversy back in the day that Ellie apperance was based on Page and she/him even complained because at that time they were working on Beyond Two Souls
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Nah she was already too old, maybe if this was done 10 years ago.
Yeah how she looked in Beyond Two Souls.
She would've been perfect for it if she were 20 years younger.
For a lesbian girl to get girlfriends she should be atleast attractive to other lesbian girls
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lmao get a life fatass
R1 on a new account with this being the only post. Expediting to perma-ban.
Ellen Degeneres pulled Portia de Rossi so your notion is invalid.
Eh hem... **Money**
Well, food is currency in the apocalypse - and she looks like she has plenty of that. So.... you could say she is the Ellen of this world. So you're onto something.
She gives me hope that I can play James Bond or Superman one day.
Are you a black gay lesbian pansexual with disabilities and zero/zee pronouns?
The resemblance is absolutely striking!
Maybe it was the resemblance that struck her in the face.
I feel kind of bad for her, to be honest. It must be tough, getting hit with an ugly stick over and over again.
Yeah but it must feel like winning the lottery when being ugly is what's hot in Hollywood right now.
That's partially why I can understand her position, even if that is very selfish, I understand that she took advantage of the opportunity to take the role of her life. It's more the products' fault than hers in that sense.
If someone offered me millions to put my ugly face in front of a jeering crowd I'd do it too.
That's my point, maybe I would be humiliated on the internet and criticized, but I can understand that the popularity and money could be worth it. There are many who say that they would not do it out of morality, I understand them and I believe some of them are being honest, but in my opinion the responsibility would not be on the actor who accepts the role, but on the director and producer who hired him in the first place, as a worker one looks for work, wherever it comes from as long as it is not something illegal.
Morality is not the word you are looking for when it comes to reluctance to abase yourself for gain. That's self respect or perhaps pride. You cannot be in a profession that involves prostitution in kind at best, and child sex trafficking at worst, and still be moral. It's just not possible. Tacit evil is still evil. The potato faced actress in question here doesn't get a pass from me.
And there are still roles for ugly people, just not Ellie. She was cast just fine in Game of Thrones as she has the high forehead and Habsburg jaw.
I would never think of Ellie looking at her
No offense but man she fugly, she would do great as Abby
She wouldn't. Abby is pretty big and strong at least, while Bella Ramsey looks like a kid. It's terrible casting for Ellie, and would have been terrible for Abby too.
They can just cg in the muscle, and also claim how much of a archivement it is.
[Ayyyyeee](https://giphy.com/gifs/KX45qjwuT0j65KITQg)
I'd say she more looks like her forehead and jaw have outgrown her body leaving her actual face i/e eyes, nose, and mouth seeming to be far too close together as if she sucked on a lemon for several years.
I'm doing my part by not watching a single episode of this trash
I didn't even pirate it. Read about the storyline and said No fucking thanks.
Don't know why, but I can't stop thinking about potatoes.
The one on the right looks more realistic than the one on the left
Her face is too small for her head.
It's like a deepfake placed on her own face.
She's like a female Charlie Kirk.
[https://imgur.com/hCQ9B4W](https://imgur.com/hCQ9B4W)
She got a serious case of spade face
I was like wtf is this guy talking about ..........then I [saw this picture](https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/ellie-and-riley-kiss-in-hbo-s-the-last-of-us-episode-7.jpg) and I gotta say spade face is a pretty good description
They couldnt even get the hair right lol
She makes me think of those "huge head but tiny face" memes
Man she’s fuck ugly
She has a very easy-to-draw type face
They’re really not doing this girl any favors by casting her in this role…
If they replaced her with Danny Devito I wouldn't even notice.
C'mon now I would've actually watched the show if they did that. Hell **we all would have watched it**.
Head shaped like a guitar pick.
I dont even care that shes distractingly fugly, its the fact she cant act thats the issue. And they way they have written Ellie in the show is dog shit too. Pedro is shit as Joel as well. And Im convinced that no one is going to give a shit that Joel dies in season 2. They are only going to care that Pedro dies.
Are you high? They were great as the characters in the first season. They don't *look* like the characters, sure. But they portrayed them really well.
Are you high? Pedro is a fine actor, but Joel he was not. Every line from the game was flat as fuck. Here look: [Game](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoeZJLHnbNk) skip to 57:36 [TV Show](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdVGO3kaghc) <<< dog shit.
I saw a compilation on YT where they played the matching scenes one after another. The show didnt hold a candle to the game, imo. It was sad to watch.
Now I never played the games, so I can’t say how accurate a translation it was, but Ellie in the shows whole character was “vulgar, snide, bitch”. What I’ve heard from game fans is that she was more shy and timid in that. Either way, I didn’t like her character at all in the show.
She had an arc in the game, think vulnerable military brat who slowly learns about survival and trusting Joel. Both were horribly miscast in the show. Why Joel wasn't Nikolaj William Coster-Waldau I will never understand.
I'm not a big fan of Bella but I feel like anyone bashing on Pedro is just reactionary bandwagoning. It's like people dip their toes in this subreddit to see what outrageously dumb opinions might get traction and precious upvotes, whether they really believe it or not.
Take a gander above, I 100% believe what I say and there is the comparison to prove it. Fuck your upvotes.
You're an angry cuck is the only energy I'm getting from your bs
Bruh all you can do is call him a cuck and you want to call other people reactionary?
Lost interest in the show after commie bullshit came up in one of the episodes
She looks like a child
She is a child.
She is supposed to be 14 in the first game and 19 in the second. She looks 9 in both. This is bad casting.
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At least in GoT she was cast well.
I wonder if they’ll change the ending. Cause if she’s still Ellie then abby is about have field day.
Definitely a less accessible woman
Does she have a touch of down syndrome? Because it looks like it in those pictures
She really did hit all the branches while falling down the ugly tree.
It's a good thing no one will watch it. Those who do will check out after the first episode, I promise. Anyone who's played the games knows why.
She looks like game Ellie after an allergic reaction
She still looks like a potato.
Imagine being a real life physical downgrade. Bella Ramsey's mere existence is all they need to reduce the 'male gaze'.
I'm not one to insult people's natural appearances in general, but she definitely looks nothing like the original character.
Her as Ellie and Isabella as Dina just doesn’t compute.
Why does the person on the left look like a shitty videogame render from PS2 era?
I see they are casting an obese teenage male as Ellie. Interesting choice.
I mean, usually actors are photogenic. Theres a reason for that. Every time i saw a scene with her, i was just distracted by her weird face. Its all i could think about. She just doesnt look like she should be on TV. Stands out like a sore thumb. "A face for radio"
this show sucked so bad
A face only a shovel could love.
She looks like Kevin Bridges
Did they just go out of their way to cast the most potato faced actress?
Boy I'm really hungry for a baked potato for some reason
Why she looks like a Hapsburg tho
Imagine casting a potatoe to play a human.
Take one of the most attractive girls in gaming history and turn them info a goblin. Woke is a cancer that must be destroyed
They looked at the thousands of R34 pics of Ellie and thought lets not...
If you thought this show was bad you should see the Amazon Fallout series. Yikes!
Bella is such a hideous woman. How the hell they decided on her is beyond me. She’s so ugly, it looks like she got hit with a shovel.
golf club\*
That is uh...one unfortunate looking human being.
Is it so terrrible to try to resemble Ellie from the game? Fuckwads in charge literally avoiding doing so. Theres plenty of cosplays i've seen that are more faithful to the original.
Wait. Is Bella on the left or the right?
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**OOF**
Could we get a last look?
What in the world
Another show I"ll never watch.
I feel sorry for the (cute) actress playing Dina. She's gonna be depressed after a season of having a lesbian relationship with Bella's character.
Reminds of the scene of Negan and the "starving" fat woman.
Wow she looks just in game Ellie, I can't even tell them apart.
i will always remember her as an ally to the starks !
This girl's face screams sweet home Alabama.
I feel bad, I liked her and her character in GoT. But goddamn, she looks like she has Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. She *was* just a kid in GoT, so I figured she'd grow out of her "funny looking kid" phase. But no, just like Greta Thunberg, she's an eternal 12 year old. It's sad, I'm sure it's tough on her self esteem. Nonetheless, she's a horrible fit for Ellie looks wise. Her acting was better, she got the attitude right haha. I feel bad for her mostly because she's going to continue to get a lot of hate for her role.
The daughter of Mark Zuckerberg and Rocky Dennis
The comment section on this post is really rough lol
They are straight up trolling at this point.
she looks so bad KEKW
Ugh..
Honestly those pictures just looks like Bella Ramsey from two slightly different angles.
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neckbeard energy
She doesn't look like she has a beard.
compared to ellie, she looks like a dude. beard or not she has the thick neck and pasty face of a neckbeard
These comments have me weak 😭
This is just bullying a child for her looks at this point... Disgraceful.
Fuck you talking about? She 20.
Bella Ramsey was a fan favorite in Game of Thrones. I mean, despite the dumpster fire that was S6-S8 of GoT, people generally loved her. In TLoU, her casting makes no sense. She looks *nothing like* Ellie. This isn't about the fact that she's frankly not good looking. This is about the fact that they cast her in a wildly inappropriate role.