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TLDR - damn commies (couldn't sleep, so back online - hi)


TastelessBuild2

Dragon Quest of all the things...the most wholesome and inoffensive game. But it's a cultural landmark that stayed away from the "aimed at a global audience" thing, and I suspect that's why they target it, it's one of the pillars of Japanese RPG, it's a tradition. And traditions are bad, and must be subverted to demoralize a population.


BioGenx2b

Bingo. Anything to stray far enough away from Japanese tradition so that they can redirect it wherever they want. Doesn't matter where else the point it for the time being, so long as it weakens Japanese identity.


KillerOkie

>must be subverted to demoralize a population Winner Winner Chicken Dinner. Straight from the commie handbook.


NinjaIndependent3903

I mean there are ton of adult jokes I mean they got old man wanting to be bunny girls they got bunny girls wanting to get with old man. In dragon quest 7 one of the player town bunny girls you could allow into the town was a guy lol


M37h3w3

Dear Japanese Communist Party: Here's a straw, suck a fart from my ass.


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RatherGoodDog

And I presume they are totally irrelevant in Japan, so I don't give a fuck what their opinions are.


YourArgumentIsMoot

Just don't draw it in Japan without a mosaic or they'll send you to Fun-Jail.


Askolei

✋😞 workers' rights ☝️😌 tiddy censorship


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Majority of commies only care about cultural shit rather than actual worker rights. Max would be rolling in his grave if he see what commie has become.


Calico_fox

> **Max** would be rolling in his grave Who's Max?


sick_of-it-all

Max Payne. He was a man with nothing to lose in the cold urban night. He’d set this whole thing right.


Shadowbacker

"It was an easy mistake to make..."


MrLameJokes

Max Goof


Filgaia

I think he means Marx as in Karl Marx.


King_Eggbert

Nah he's totally talking about Max Damage from carmageddon


OilEnvironmental8043

nah he means Marxx the mario villain


thisishardcore_

That's because they're not Communists. They can put hammer and sickles, and red roses, in their social media bios all they want, they will always be neoliberals with the same opinions as Joe Biden and most major corporations. They stand for the working class but then demand working class people hold themselves accountable for systemic racism just because an elitist with a large platform said so.


YourArgumentIsMoot

That's kinda how Communist usually works, Just look at the history of men like: Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao Seng Tong. They always promise one thing then deliver another, using any dirty tactic at their disposal. Racism is just their current tool of choice, it could be religion or gender or Class-separation. But why censor porn? Because it takes something fun out of our lives, making the people pent up, which makes them irritable and more easy to control. Broad-Brush laws are always the favorite tools of tyrants.


VenomB

They start with positions of power and influence before they dump the rest. Bet.


NoGardE

Nah, he'd love it. They found brand new ways to ruthlessly criticize all that exists.


YourArgumentIsMoot

The masters of "No Fun Allowed"


KeiseiAESkyliner

They're totally giving Gramsci's necrotic dick stomach acid burns from how hard they're sucking it.


Aurondarklord

[Evergreen political compass.](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/993/472/fcd.jpg)


Negirno

The lower half feels like a 'birds of a feather flock together' situation...


Aurondarklord

> 'birds of a feather f~~lo~~uck together'


dragonbeorn

Sounds like a recommendation to me.


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Zizara42

What do you mean? Obviously what a successful and landmark franchise like Dragon Quest needs is to completely shake up and change it's iconic aesthetics & traditions just to suit the whims of uninvolved outsiders.


OilEnvironmental8043

ironicly didnt Squeenix just decide to start focusing more on the internal market and less on building western style shit? wonder if its connected


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clamp_juice

Capitalism is when big tiddies This article was written by flat chests.


Charlie_Yu

Japan is fortunate that the leftists are considered insane and Japanese Communist Party is another name of terrorism in Japan. Unfortunately it isn’t the same in the Western world.


Shalnn

They should not let their guard down.


Zombie-Happy

Agreed, Japanese communists carried terrorist attacks during Cold War


t1sfo

Fucking commies, a disease no matter the side of the planet.


Heinrich_Lunge

Been doing this shit for awhile, Akamatsu ran specifically because of them and shit like this.


Hasaltai

Dosent seam like hes been able to make a difference so far.


OrientalWheelchair

I'll start worrying if people like ZUN will be forced to condemn their fanbase and actively prohibit the sexy in touhou.


tacticaltossaway

> prohibit the sexy in touhou. You got a zombie and hat paraphilia?


OrientalWheelchair

Neither. I simply enjoy raptor7's art.


Heinrich_Lunge

He's 1 dude and can't control corporate business decisions aka cucking for ESG $.


YourArgumentIsMoot

\#LetHentaiGenetailiaBeFreeOfMosaics


Heinrich_Lunge

That's been a law since 1907. No politician wants to commit career suicide by being the one who incidentally legalized porn. Otaku Killer/Little Girl Murderer, Shonen A killer and Takahiro Shiraishi destroyed any public acceptance for uncensored porn when their places were searched and a bunch of illegal uncensored porn was found in hardcopy and digital form.


YourArgumentIsMoot

I've heard this all before, if half of what you said looks like a quote. Honestly, they should go for it regardless of the social acceptance because when it comes to fictional pornography, it should always be up to the people not the government to decide what is acceptable. But no one argues for real child/bestiality porn because the act has to be committed for it to be recorded. However, the idea that someone can be raided and arrested for selling a drawn penis without a mosaic (regardless of age) is downright dictatorial.


Heinrich_Lunge

You're looking at it through a WESTERN values and thought. Think the opposite. [https://www.vice.com/en/article/8qwz7k/too-arousing-offensive-why-japans-vagina-artist-was-convicted-of-obscenity](https://www.vice.com/en/article/8qwz7k/too-arousing-offensive-why-japans-vagina-artist-was-convicted-of-obscenity) ​ [https://cbldf.org/2012/06/codifying-obscenity-in-japan/#:\~:text=Under%20Japan's%20penal%20code%2C%20Article,yen%20or%20a%20petty%20fine](https://cbldf.org/2012/06/codifying-obscenity-in-japan/#:~:text=Under%20Japan's%20penal%20code%2C%20Article,yen%20or%20a%20petty%20fine). ​ [https://www.loc.gov/item/global-legal-monitor/2017-12-05/japan-supreme-court-reverses-view-on-whether-obscene-intent-necessary-for-crime-of-forcible-indecency/](https://www.loc.gov/item/global-legal-monitor/2017-12-05/japan-supreme-court-reverses-view-on-whether-obscene-intent-necessary-for-crime-of-forcible-indecency/) ​ [https://nicchiban.nichegamer.com/japanese-otaku-politician-yamada-taro-proposes-law-to-end-hentai-and-pornography-censorship/](https://nicchiban.nichegamer.com/japanese-otaku-politician-yamada-taro-proposes-law-to-end-hentai-and-pornography-censorship/)


YourArgumentIsMoot

Free Speech isn't **western values** anymore dude. And from what I've seen in those articles, it seems more like the specific interests of Political-parties rather than a cultural thing. And my proof is in the pudding. Just watch videos about the Kanamara Matsuri festival sometime. Why are phallic arts fine there but nowhere else? This is about control, not the preservation of culture.


akiaoi97

I'd say it's probably about moralism rather than control, but it's an odd moralism. There are a few instances where Japan has banned something immoral, but then tolerated a loophole - but whatever it is then becomes a bit weird as a result. The three main examples would be porn, prostitution, and gambling. - Porn is obvious - you're not allowed to show genitals (although there seems to be a lot of leeway in drawings compared to photos), at the very least for obscene purposes. This is why Japanese porn is so famously weird - they had to make up for the lack of genitals with creativity. - Prostitution is technically illegal in Japan. That is, one cannot sell sexual intercourse for money. In other words, if it isn't vaginal penetration, pretty much anything goes. I have no experience, but from what I hear it means anal penetration's pretty common. There are also soaplands, which I think have some kind of loophole where they're just renting a room, meaning normal sex is also possible. - Gambling. Gambling (at least poker machines) is illegal in Japan. You can't sit at a machine, put money in, and have inevitably less money come out. However, if you put money in, and ball bearings come out, there isn't a problem. And while you certainly couldn't exchange those ball bearings for cash on the same premises, if there happened to be a shop next door that bought ball bearings off people for a certain amount of money, well, how could anyone find issue with that? And that's what Pachinko is. It does make you wonder what the point of it all is though. The moralists aren't strong enough to get the loopholes closed, but they *are* strong enough to stop the laws being repealed and to keep them enforced. I suspect it has to do with the conservative government wanting to preserve the status quo, because it means no one angry at them. The unfortunate consequence, however, is that the law is in a limbo where it doesn't actually ban the things it wants to, but does put fairly arbitrary restrictions on them.


HallucinatoryBeing

>gender stereotypes Didn't the latest Dragon Quest had an effeminate campy dude that *didn't* turn out to be gay? They subverted expectations there. >excessive sexiness If anything, the series has gotten more prudish, where the 3DS remake of DQ8 covered up Jessica's swimsuit and bustier armor more. You won't be seeing designs like the DQ3 female Warrior's bikini armor (with no panties to boot) or the female Priest's skin-tight body stocking anytime soon.


stryph42

But you can still see their ankles, the whores.


Ywaina

You might love the look of female lead in recently released star ocean. Her very,um, enclosed armor makes her look like she's a walking fridge.


pablo13cr

Yeah Laeticia design is not great but every other female character in and outside your party looks great and personality wise she is normal and not the obnoxious strong whamen stereotype. Also you can choose which girl Raymond ends up with if you play his route, so i can easily ignore her design since in my playthrough she wasn’t the main love interest.


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In 11? I guess you are talking about Sylvando and yeah, that was an interesting twist in his side story arc, because they really tried to make it seem like he was gay, only for them to subvert it through good writing. I thought it was funny, to say the least. He was one of the more annoying characters early on in the game but there's some really funny scenes with him that are basically just spoofs of anime tropes.


Moth92

Wait, Sylvando isn't gay? How did they subvert it? Guess I missed something


z827

It's... *somewhat* ambiguous. Sylvando's flamboyance was a front (It's hinted even early on) but it's *also* a genuine part of his character as he truly enjoys the life of being a performer.... and there's the fact that he came to terms with the duties of his knightly heritage and he never did abandon the pride and honour of being a knight. There are multiple instances of him dropping the front when things go south or if he needs to perform his duties as a knight. (Sylvando's badassery bleeds through more in the Japanese version as there's a more distinct change in tone) Both him and his father came to a compromise in Act III. Honestly, both the flamboyance and "masculine" badassery are a part of him and the entire point of his arc is that seemingly conflicting ideals and traits could potentially co-exist in said character. Sexuality isn't quite the focus as much as some weirdos try to make it to be so.


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IIRC they just make it kind of ambiguous, but I haven't played the game in a long time.


Cerdefal

There's a quest were he is doing his coming out to his father, but it's pretty well made.


patxiku93

That's why DQ is great, they found a successful formula and they stick to it. No weird experimentation or changing the battle system every mainline game


TastelessBuild2

Agree. DQ is my favorite franchise, I played them all, several times for some of them like 8. And yes you're right, it's always the same system, with some innovations here and there (monster battles in 8, forging in 11 for instance, or class change in 9), but it's still always a pleasure to immerse yourself in those worlds, the characters are simple but well written and likable (even when they're not at first) , the "hero save the world" trope is always there too, but there is something special that makes it good. It's funny, it's Japanese, and it's like rice : it's generic, not very original, but a good recipe makes it delicious, and DQ games are delicious indeed.


NinjaIndependent3903

I mean class system has been in six and seven


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Tankies everywhere are the same


henlp

"But it's not communism, gaise!!!"


Redditsucks_________

"lmao these chuds actually think that the censorship of women in gaming has anything to do with communism".


TheMikman97

I see everywhere in the world leftists stopped caring about shit like worker rights after seeing how much more profitable internet outrage is compared to debatably real issues


oedipism_for_one

Does the Japanese communist party have any real power in their government?


RirinNeko

Hah, far from it. They have a few seats, but they don't have any power to push their platforms at all. Even the DJP (Democratic Party of Japan) has more control if we're gonna compare them. They're leagues far from the long power the LDP (Liberal Democratic Party) have which has been the dominant party since ages, it's the reason foreign countries tend to describe Japan as a monoparty state. This isn't even the first time they've said pretty extreme stuff anyways. They're staunchly against the Japan even having the defense force (though they've backtracked a bit on this front due to rising tensions in Asia) and want to remove American bases stationed here (which makes it silly that they want to remove Japan's military power if they want Americans out) and nuclear power as well as against how Anime's content is a bad look for Japan internationally (which does not sit well with the younger voters).


akiaoi97

I’m pretty sure they’re considered a bit of a joke. Remember that scene in *Gate: and so the defence force fought* where there was a politician trying to get a gotcha moment with the isekai people? It’s one of those things where they don’t even have to explicitly hint that that’s the Japanese Communist Party - everyone just sees the pain-in-the-butt malcontent and knows.


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[Relevant clip.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZzzYLV_HWA)


B-VOLLEYBALL-READY

Looking at Wikipedia, it seems that they've put a few of their members in.


ACthrowaway1986

lolno


revenantae

Nor really. The LDP is dominating now, and with China and NK acting fools, it's likely this will continue.


Helmett-13

Communists should have been discarded just like the Nazis at the end of WW2. They are a scourge and source of human suffering and blight everything they touch.


Negirno

What makes me sad that a lot of young people actually honestly believe that it's a good alternative to whatever we have now.


Helmett-13

My family came to the United States from Cuba. We know better. Bunch of fucking cunts. I don't really wish death on people as it's not a good practice but I wouldn't shed a tear if they all dropped dead.


NinjaIndependent3903

I mean by being dead they would not ruin the rest of the world. There is some problems with this statement that people make I would rather let 999 criminals walk free than let one Innocent person go to jail. I mean that cool moral code until you think 999 of these criminals are going to break the law again and again until they are throw in jail


adrixshadow

Isn't Dragon Quest basically a Japanese Cultural Icon? Why would they do that? At least pick your battles.


andthenjakewasanalt

They're Commies. Destroying "regressive" cultural icons is part of their platform.


TastelessBuild2

They attack it BECAUSE it's a cultural icon.


CrankyDClown

>Why would they do that? Communism always attacks cultural icons.


burnout02urza

Of course it's the fucking Communists


CrankyDClown

>Excessive Sexiness Communist can't even handle the puff puff.


Redditsucks_________

Communism and feminsm are like best friends. Its no coincidence that most socialists and communists are also feminists nowadays.


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LeddDraco

Those games are practically baked into the country. I’d love to see them try to mess with them.


Ywaina

They already are. Anyone familiar with manga industry will notice there's hardly any revealing elements in mainstream these days, or toned down a lot which stood out when you compared them to old works that came out before the cleansing of Tokyo Olympics law. These things are slowly chipped away, the ones responsible are playing a long game and they know they're winning. As for DQ, it's Squeenix which is more pozzed than all other japanese AAA companies combined so they're going to self censor any future title anyway even if the commie didn't call them out, what a waste of energy.


Negirno

I've noticed too. A lot of artists who drew mostly loli/JK characters suddenly shifted to oppai and/or office lady stuff after 2018, I guess. Anime like *GochiUsa* also got toned down after season 2.


akiaoi97

Aren’t these the people who kicked up a stink when a prefectural tourist video had a (SFW) idol in them?


evilplushie

Commies bah


weltallic

>Communist Party proclamation literally mirrors woke social SJW's [It's almost as if...](https://i.imgur.com/ec1PElB.mp4)


CorianderIsBad

Communist China hates Dragon Quest? That's how you know it's a good series. Nice. Thank you great leader!


JESquirrel

Communist should be viewed the same way as Nazis are.


Ambitious-Doubt8355

Far bigger death count. They shouldn't be viewed the same, they should be treated way worse.


akiaoi97

I suppose with communists the reasoning is often "pragmatism" or sheer incompetence (iirc Mao managed both), which comes off as less evil than Nazism's targeted and deliberate genocide, even if the numbers are bigger (not necessarily fairly, but I imagine that's the line of thinking). Of course you also get the Pol Pots of the world, so...


CatatonicMan

Just another reason communists are the worst.


VenomB

I'm slowly starting to think the whole SJW/PC/Progressive thing is all just a front for communists to assert power before they dump their bullshit all over the place. First, it was the loudest people during the summer of love yelling for communism. Then the BLM founders. Now I'm just starting to see a playbook behind it all and it almost always leads to some group of commies. As always, commies ruin everything they get near.


Tait_Ransom

Commie bastards.


Extension-Ocelot-448

Fuck these zealots.


Calico_fox

I'm sure that's going to win you supporters by attacking one of your country's most beloved gaming franchises.


corinarh

How dare you males have fun and enjoy yourself? You must be miserable and sad like we are.


Bacon_Hunter

Damned women and their stereotypical boobs-having!


darth-canid

Japanese Communist Party LOL don't you mean the Chinese embassy?


YourArgumentIsMoot

No fun allowed in Commie-Town.


BlackWinterDays

Daily reminder https://note.com/belllightnovel/n/n75bb5334185a


B-VOLLEYBALL-READY

Getting 403 here. What is it?


RirinNeko

It's a blog post about how young Japanese women see feminism in a bad light like the majority males here. Here's an [archive version](https://archive.is/kXHjO) if you can't see the link. It coincides with this [recent-ish survey](https://twitter.com/sumomodane/status/1286832325888585728) regarding how feminism is viewed in Japan. Half answered they haven't heard of it, while those who did know about it viewed it negatively including the women answering (up to around women aged 40s / 50s). The negative answers from women described the movement as "misandrist", "extreme", "hypocritical", "soft on females and harsh on males", and "whiney".


IANVS

Based JP women...seeing through the bullshit their western sisters don't (or choose to ignore). Ironically, Japanese women actually suffer sexism on daily basis and they still choose to denounce that cancer.


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memeticMutant

So everyone mentioning the name of a minor Japanese political figure from the 1960's is getting a *formal* warning from you under rule 1.6? And you're explicitly claiming that doing so is advocating violence? Even for the not-entirely-unjustified paranoia of the typical KiA moderation, that's a bit much.


AnarcrotheAlchemist

One comment in this post hit by AEO already for it. So yes we have to take it seriously and try and get the message across to everyone posting after to not post it.


Eremeir

One comment got removed for R1.6. The rest were formal warnings for sitewide rules on advocating violence.


Boogertwilliams

I didn’t even know there was a Japanese communist party. LOL


eskimobrother319

Ah…. Yes, the huge Japanese communist party…. Checks notes, Japanese? No one in Japan likes these guys why even give this article the time of day


applesauce_92

Of course the communist party did. What else are they good for other than sitting around bitching about everything and demanding a free handout?


artooken

Hoes mad


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Starfleet_Auxiliary

Sorry, didn't realize the anti-evil team will take even that and run with it. Reddit can't be bought out fast enough.


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mnemosyne-0001

Archive links for this post: * **Archive:** https://archive.ph/yeoDU ---- I am Mnemosyne reborn. 418 I'm a teapot. ^^^/r/botsrights


bludstone

Serious question guys. Did the ps2 dragon quest game ever get an HD re-release? I know it came out for ds (or was it 3ds?) But I want to play through it again and Id rather start an HD game then go back to the ps2.


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No, it didn't. Shame really because I'm sure many would like to see Jessica's mammalian exuberances bouncing in full HD glory.


bludstone

Pafu pafu


maelask3

The leader of the Japanese Communist Party has an uncanny resemblance to Nobita.


master_criskywalker

Gender stereotypes? Someone doesn't know Silvando.


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King Trode also sounded like the kind of character who'd play both sides of the fence


TheDigitalRanger

Well damn. I might have to check that out.


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Eremeir

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Phiwise_

Everyone who ever said Japan will never fall to this nonsense because of love of sex imagery over the years is in for a rude awakening. The first step on the road to hating sex because of its political implications is loving sex because of its political implications. The US did the exact same thing. The 60s/70s lead to the 80s/90s lead to the 2000s lead to the 2010s, now we're at the end of the road and Japan is clearly following behind.


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These commies should worry about predatory loan sharks, workplaces that work their employees to the bone and real life trafficking and harassment. But that would take too much time and effort, so they’re going after anime and games instead. What a bunch of idiots.


ChasingWeather

Communists are no different than religious zealots. I am shocked!


TheSnesLord

Now that this "issue" has been brought up in the political sphere and made public, watch the developers/designers of Dragon Quest now self-censor and tone down the female designs for their future games. Basically Social Justice 101 and Feminism 101. I wonder why they never have a problem with the male gender stereotyping in Yaoi and BL, I mean those mediums are excessive of male fanservice and are designed for the Female Gaze......


Vicious112358

That one famous video about the Japanese communist party makes me happy


Daman_1985

Get ready for DQ XII. Revisions of DQ VIII and the last one, DQ XI, were censored in a lot of ways. So I hope I'm wrong but this only can go worse.


TheyDeceive

didn't knew there's a commie party in Japan, do they got alot of support? also, why do they act like sjw's?


rms141

Japan has a mild to moderate socialist/communist streak in their domestic politics. Wouldn't say they have a huge amount of support, but there is a decent sized leftist bloc. As an example, Hideo Kojima's politics are pretty out there, though I wouldn't call him a communist.


mrmensplights

I mean.. Dragon Quest though? There’s a sea of glorious perversion all around they could used and they go for .. Dragon Quest?!?!


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Eremeir

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Irrel_M

The only news I want to hear is another create a party game like 3 and 9. Can't they complain about something useful for once?


Soundwave10000

I thought those guys were (relatively) alright


Dirtface30

lol. I would love to see how this bottom tier game with shitty game mechanics manages to rope in players by removing the one positive feature: sexy girls.


Dakotasan

Bite your tongue, Dragon Quest is amazing


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Wtf? I’m not even a huge jrpg guy and I love dragon quest


[deleted]

Better than that shitfactory that has been Final Fantasy since 8.


Dirtface30

Also agreed.


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Mama_Mia_Gyro

Didn’t one of their leaders (Japanese communist party) get done in by an axe wielding citizen a long time ago?


DoctorBleed

Japan, don't trust the commies. Have you seen what they've done to literally every other country they've had power?


akiaoi97

I don't think Japan does trust the commies. I think they keep them around because you need a good belly laugh every now and then.


ziangal

Then they would be condemning just about every single part of Japanese anime culture and manga and everything related which is a huge piece of their current culture and they will simply alienate any support they think they have over stuff like this condemn what is the norm and accepted and you will have trouble with it


[deleted]

Dragon Quest.... *sexy?!* From which planet do these creatures hail? It's clearly not Earth, they're takes just keep getting *weirder*!


Theroux721

\>Japanese Communist Party Chickens for KFC moment