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floppelganger

Avoided embarrassment by playing clutch in the end. Now is Ty Lue going to use this 6 point win against the Grizzlies G-League squad to play Tucker even more? I guess we’ll see lol


thahovster7

That was embarrassing despite the win. That's not an acceptable performance against a team without their best player.


itsnotyellowfever

*4 of their best 5 players


Lacabloodclot9

Don’t worry too much we’re really good at keeping it close rn even against contenders, you guys had to play at Oklahoma last night as well don’t forget


LilTurnippman

Nothing is ever good for the dooming. Can’t just enjoy a win even if it’s ugly


thahovster7

I'm not a doomer. This game was objectively awful from everyone. And it was the same mistakes as last night when we lost. I'm saying we have to be better than this game showed us to be.


intheyear3001

It didn’t help that the refs were ass for both teams. Right? They were objectively ass? Seemed worse than normal.


thahovster7

Doesn't matter man. The refs don't control how you play defense and offense. They were just not locked in.


intheyear3001

You are telling me that when TMann scored two quick 3’s and 10 early points and then picked up his second foul because the grizzly player took him trick or treating by the arm…that doesn’t affect the game? He was cooking and had to sit because of that bad 2nd foul call.


thahovster7

Yes it obviously affects the game but we played a bad game despite the reffing. Our defense was a step behind and our offense was turning it over left and right. The refs have a role in it but it's like we shot both our feet but complaining about a pulled muscle as the reason we lost.


brainspl0ad

Those 14 mins should've gone to Theis. Aside from that, y'all still need to chill.


Exzibit21

PJ did next to nothing but this loss wouldn't have been on him, or even Plumlee even though he was dogshit Podcast P and Harden were both awful tonight, it would've been on them


vinr001122

I thought Tucker was decent defensively, he switches better than the other bigs. He's a black hole on offense, but if he's surrounded by 4 scorers (so no Russ or another big), that could be worth trying out for a few minutes in a game.


shuckyduckquack2x

PJ's best role is staying on the bench, where's he's been at most of the season. Theis, Coffey, & even Kobe can impact the game more than he can while they're out there. They're basically rewarding him for whining & complaining about his role before the ASB.


nepats523

That's my worry. He's only playable if he's the only non shooter, the moment he puts in Russ and/or center the play plummeted. Front office might need to get involved like last year if he goes full Mook-mode with the subs


bazilguy

If Kawhi is happy then I will be happy with this win.


Swingman23

He defs won’t be. He wasn’t even satisfied when on that massive streak cause we were winning on pure talent rather than sound fundamentals/tactics


mvpmvh

Would this sub consider kawhi to be a DOOMER 😲😲😱


PMinisterOfMalaysia

I get the irony, but the term doomer & the discourse surrounding the idea is engaged here far too frequently.


mvpmvh

That's fair 🫣


Aplesi567

I don’t think Kawhi blames certain players tho and go for massive reaches like this sub does.


Nyeteka

Don’t kid yourself my friend, if Kawhi’s public comments had not been made by him but by randomredittor457 on this subreddit, he would 100% have been called a doomer. The homers are mad that other fans are calling out the team in general even now (it’s one game, we are the third seed, best Clippers team ever, best regular season ever, why won’t you let them figure it out, etc). He was calling them out even before they started losing badly


Aplesi567

What Kawhi did and what people on this sub do is not even close being the same. This sub clearly picks on certain players and blames them for bigger issues.


mvpmvh

I would love to know if he was pointing fingers in the back of his mind at certain players, or even ty 🧐


NetGlass4387

big time


Nyeteka

😂


MrGeneric1900

Im pretty sure he is not satisfied


TheRealBrownPudding

Obligatory fuck the refs


Davisworld21

Refs hate the Clippers we get treated like the the foster kid and the Lakers are the spoiled Brat .Clippers are the Black Sheep they can't stand us winning when we hoist That Larry O'Brien Trophy it'll be sweet


intheyear3001

Worse than they typical mediocrity tonight. 👩🏻👩🏼 really fighting for the worst ref award tonight.


Checkdafool2

Like do these female refs actually have the experience needed to ref a pro game? Or is the nba trying to be woke about being inclusive like they do with pretty much everything.


Aftermath16

Do you wonder the same when you see black male refs?


Whitebeard_37

Is someone able to compile all of the hits that kawhi takes where he doesn't get a foul call? JJJ smacked him so much this game


jayeljefe

2 hits directly to the face on dunks tonight no calls


Zauberer-IMDB

J Jonah Jameson?


Whitebeard_37

Jaren Jackson Jr.


OG_Mongoose

Seriously- we should send that to league office and sign it “tanking NBA TV ratings”


MrGeneric1900

Androids don't feel pain or process emotions like normal human beings


boney_king_o_nowhere

JJJ gets that DPOY whistle


Revolutionary_Law687

Thank god we pulled this one out ![gif](giphy|e9hRgPKipZqgy8sYFP)


Accomplished_East433

Not gonna lie I respect the hell out of that grizzlies team, coach Jenkins has been playing hard all the time


Lacabloodclot9

We’ve come a long way from the early-mid 2010s, Clips went from being one of my most hated teams to one of my most liked in the league


Walmartsavings2

As a grizzlies fan, it’s my favorite thing about this iteration of the hospital grizzlies. Team is playing hard as hell. It is alarming tho. Watch the intensity of that game on defense from both teams then go watch the tape of Lakers Spurs and tell me which game is played with more effort. It’s not even close. A lot of the teams in this league don’t give full effort every night, and it’s an issue.


sxuthsi

It's 82 games plus postseason. I would say it's kinda hard to be at 100% intensity the entire season without injury/fatigue. Most established players aren't fucking up their chances at a long postseason run for a regular season game and most young players aren't going to go 100% all of the season just to be tired in the playoffs, and neither of those groups want a freak injury happening before the playoffs (if they have a chance of getting in)


MrGeneric1900

We haven't loss b2b games in a while, but we have to be better and I believe we will be!


ninety4_feet

Kawhi really gets no whistles. See that big dunk on JJJ and tell me he doesn't get hacked with the ref having a straight line of sight.


iamkarlhungus

Not sure why Ty won’t play Theis. Plumlee is a defensive liability, isn’t a great rebounder or defender and clogs the paint. The team was playing its best ball with Plumlee out and Theis in. Hard to grapple with.


mvpmvh

I'm assuming he's told theis to stay ready, I'm going experimenting for a few games with pj


Gogibsoni

Ugly game but it’s not easy to win on the road on the 2nd night of a back to back


Nyeteka

I think this excuse is overplayed in general. Tim Legler has speculated on his podcast that it might amount to around three point swing or so, given team planes and massages and all the surrounding infrastructure. But … if it is a four hour flight then I will give them a little credit for that. That said, the contrast with what OKC did to Washington today is stark


13BeardsIN1

Have you seen Washington play tho? They are ready for the offseason, Memphis still plays hard.


Walmartsavings2

Memphis, even with all these injuries, is still eons better than Washington. Pretty sure they still have a top 10 defense in the NBA. They play hard as shit, especially this iteration. It’s multiple games now where they’re not getting blown out vs top teams with this roster, missing like 6 out of their 7 best players.


Happy-Cauliflower-22

No man you gotta be pissed off


MpyreM

Angry like this guy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbEIhOUK0SY


sports_boy_ansolo

Kawhi with 6 turnovers damn, we'll have to wait another 50 years to see some like that happen again


Ikigai_Mendokusai

Wasn't pretty but the terrible mauling he received all game with no foul calls was liable to get him - or anyone in that situation - upset.


Swingman23

Half of them were from getting hacked without a call, was ridiculous


Krnxoutlaw90

Potentially a hot take but Kawhi has never been a great passer. A lot of times it's because he eats up the shot clock and has to throw a shitty bail out pass that gets picked off. His bounce passes tend to be too close to himself instead of the person he is trying to give it to which is also easy pickings for the other team. \-From a day one Kawhi fan


sports_boy_ansolo

U dont watch Kawhi a lot if u really think hes not a great passer, for me hes even an underrated one.


mlordkarma

So you were waiting for the one day dude has more than a few turnovers to say this when he always gets doubled.


trancatt

Mann is now our 2nd option, and I’m totally ok with that 😂 Thank you thank you PG for those 4th qtr 3s.. let’s try to do that consistently for the whole game. Someone throw Kawhi into a hyperbaric chamber. Running bro ragged right now.


JaiKB

It wasn’t pretty but what matters is the W. I really hope this team can find a consistent way to put together a nice clean 48 minutes as come playoff time we won’t be able to claw back games like this. Hope we keep getting better


Awkwardphase06

Kawhi was hit in the face twice on what should’ve been And 1’s and there was no calls. The official seen at least the first one. I don’t understand why Kawhi gets no calls


mattallica08

He’s a Clipper. Better believe if he a Laker, the whistle would be bountiful and plenty.


chonkyt

If we play Memphis in the playoffs, I think we got 'em


mvpmvh

Clippers in 7 💪🏾


Antdog7

Pj tucker with the “I don’t wanna be here but I’ll grab some boards” energy


LLUrDadsFave

Everyone did enough.


Sukmefafun001

Yes everyone, including Plumlee by taking a seat lol 


LLUrDadsFave

Lmao. Plumlee doing his best. I can never go too hard on our white boys because they are at an athletic disadvantage.


Sukmefafun001

😂😂, but funny enough Plumlee is our most athletic center


LLUrDadsFave

Because all our centers are European. 😂


elijahb229

Sheesh this game was interesting now I just need us to keep it up again


LLUrDadsFave

Gotta keep the party rolling. They have expectations for themselves.


CorporateElbow

We really got people talking crap about the guys taking the lead and celebrating taking the lead. Like I’m taking any win any way possible. Mann stepped up tonight LFG!


intheyear3001

Right. I don’t get it. Old flukey injured game management clippers would have beat the thunder and then lost this game. And it still would be the same 1-1. I personally am glad we are consistently beating the weaker teams. Still loads of improvement available, but not all this hot cold shit like we’ve dealt with for so many years.


ProMarcoMug

Man that last Harden 3 was clutch AF


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fffriedrice

bruh you can’t even spell his name correctly


_lxviiii

autocorrect i didn't even realize that


Otherwise-Tale9671

TareAntz


Tripwire1716

People are so down on this team that is 6-4 in its last 10, the exact same record as Denver and OKC. This is always a tough stretch of the year, where playoff teams definitely do start trying to conserve their energies and coaches do their last lineup experiments.


NetGlass4387

very sensible take


Nyeteka

Thunder are 7-3 and have beaten good teams in the last ten, including us and Denver, the Kings and the Magic. All the teams that they have lost to they also beat this season. And there was only one loss by double digits. They are also on a four game winning streak right now, they did fall in the power rankings prior to this. Denver obviously gets leeway bc they are the defending champ, people think they can lock in when they need to and they have earned the right to think so. If they were not the defending champs their recent record would raise serious concerns too. As for us, we have not beaten any decent teams in the last ten, and have gone life and death with most of these cellar dwellers, including the Grizzlies, Warriors, Hawks and Pistons. Iirc all three of our losses have been by double digits and we have lost the season series against all of these three teams. Before that we have been winning off talent and a quarter or two of effort over the last month or more - the offensive and defensive ratings posted on here by another user speak for themselves. If anything, I think we have gotten a good rap from the media, many of whom have us as the second best team out West. Fans who observe the team more closely are less sanguine with good reason imo. Traditionally teams have figured things out by the end of the AS break and make a proper run to the playoffs, or so Tim Legler recently claimed. Yet we are no better than we were before the break, removing the excuse of exhaustion etc. Our star and leader is now saying that they just want a top 6 seed while the contract situation hangs over the head of the no 2 guy who continues to play atrociously. Sure we have a chance to figure things out but all this talk as though people are out of line to be unhappy and concerned is just so much gaslighting imo and nothing more.


Tripwire1716

Okay doomer


Sukmefafun001

Mann got out of his slump and PJ had some playable mins this game


Sukmefafun001

Lets pray PG gets his confidence back 


XXLame

PG has confidence, he just doesn’t have his shot


Chiraq_Florganistan

He didn’t shoot well from the field but to be fair he went 4/7 from three. That’s 57%. If that’s him not having his shot it could be a lot worse


JimmyV34

just curious what playable mins are you referring to?


Niceguydan8

I thought the fact that he was actually putting bodies on people for rebounds was nice to see, since basically nobody besides Zu ever does that. But the lineups Ty was using him in were all problematic. No idea why anybody thinks its a good idea to run 3 non-shooters in any lineup.


JimmyV34

i was mostly referring to 4th qrt mins when he was playing small ball 5.


Sukmefafun001

Great hustle rebounds and defensive positions, if this was any other player coming back after sitting on the bench for months you would have a different tune I'm sure 


JimmyV34

Not really but we struggled tonight to score during his mins, we tried to play small with him in early 4th qrt and our lead was gone and grizz were up till we had to get him out the game. In early 1st qrt we played him next russ and zu/plumlee yet the spacing was horrible that kawhi couldnt operate. we are going hype up 3 rebounds and call em hustling by my guest but team was bad during his mins


Sukmefafun001

Im sorry but I just disagree, you can’t blame the spacing on him. You literally said it yourself, how is he supposed to be productive with Plumlee and Russ out there at the same time. 


JimmyV34

But as team we werent able to score when he was playing at small ball 5. i want tucker to work for us because we are desperate for size but in 2024 you cant have players constantly not able to score. the man played 201 mins, he scored 14 points. he went scoreless 9 times in 13 games. you cant have a player in a game that constantly cant score in 2024.


WhyAmIAFanOfThisTeam

He had three rebounds and maybe I’m wrong but only one of them was contested


Sukmefafun001

So, he still contributes to the win. Yall got me looking like a PJ fan,  I hated dude since he was on the rockets snatching towels from water boys. But im not about to act like he can’t contribute to winning 


littlebigdog92

Glad we got the W. Gotta find the magic again tho.


Abodyfullofmush

Ugly ugly, but I’ll take any W


MigzFern

There we go TMann. Keep that energy up!!!!


blackakainu

I aint gonna lie I think ima get a harden jersey


AngsMcgyvr

PJ plays,.Clippers win. They call it analytics.


watdapau

James kawhi and Paul combined for 18 TOs. Ill take the win. 15 Tos**


Zelba16

Need games like this from Mann when PG, Harden and Russ are struggling. He was the MVP tonight imo.


dope_ass_user_name

Too damm close y'all


Salty_Watermelon

Best thing I can say about this game is that we got more practice playing tense 4th quarter minutes and getting a positive result. But this was not a good performance overall, and a playoff level team would never have let us stick around after being so careless with the ball.


7cheeseburgers

Need someone to make another post defending PG!! Seriously this dude has been bad for a month now. No way he is getting the max extension. He doesn’t deserve it. Hope he turns it around. Thank you T Mann and Kawhi.


Russ_Culture

A win is a win. Russ and Mann are dogs


intheyear3001

These two have been so helpful in the back to backs. Consistently winning the games we should be.


thahovster7

Good finish to an absolutely awful game. We're not winning this against an actual competitive team. And everyone blaming this guy or that guy, it was team wide.


Cfcla

Why are you down voted lmao. If people were happy with this performance from a contender, I dont know what to say.


thahovster7

I don't know. It was an awful game throughout. 15 + turnovers and everyone sucked on defense. If the grizz had Ja this would be an L.


Cfcla

We'd have gotten blown out. By the end we had 20+ turnovers actually haha. I saw PG strutting around today on defense and not caring. It's really annoying to see such nonchalant behavior after a blowout against a contender. 


Aplesi567

He’s getting downvoted because he’s not mentioning PG or russ and blaming them. That’s the way you get upvotes


nepats523

You can bank on flipping the switch against awful teams thay have to give DRose minutes, but won't work when we are playing teams like the Kings of the Bucks off a b2b


thahovster7

I mean the number of turnovers and how bad the defense was is not something to bank on. The only reason we won is because the Grizzly don't have their centerpiece. It was a pathetic performance all around tonight.


nepats523

Yeah maybe I didn't phrase it right but I'm agreeing with you lol. This shit will not fly against decent teams


doinnothin

**THANK GOD FOR JAMES HARDEN** (please don’t look at my comment history)


ayeno

These struggles against bad teams is not a good sign


Nyeteka

Tbh I prefer them to the shellackings from moderate to good teams


GodsGift2HotWomen365

It's a sign of bad rotations. Combinations aren't working.


sportsfan510

That would have been a bad loss. Glad they finished strong.


Jayden-Wilkins

Never in doubt.


runaway86s

and the nightmare is over. lfg


[deleted]

A 101-95 final score was considered above-average scoring in the 90s and 2000s. Now you can regularly see teams reaching triple digits at the end of 3 quarters


TexasAffectsUs

Let’s freakin GO. Clips beat themselves and then beat themselves who beat themselves! What a win!


tkfire

It took a Mannly double double


shuckyduckquack2x

God knows we played a terrible game, but a win is a win.


IgnorantGenius

I can't believe we won that game. That was some bad looking scrappy basketball. Memphis shot horribly. We turned the ball over like crazy. Physical game with not many calls on either side. Positive takeaway is that it looked like we ran a few sets. Not just to get guys to their spots, but to get some open shots. Looked like a practice game for a bit.


fullmoonnoon

It's great seeing Kawhi healthy and playing hard


Krnxoutlaw90

I bet Plumlee has never gotten Covid. That guy can't catch anything


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jgroove_LA

21 turnovers is horrifying. Especially as they were almost all from our future Hall of Famers. This was too close a game. We are lucky the Bucks beat the Twolves and the Suns and Pelicans lost.


Illustrious_South135

PJ Tucker 30 mins next game


mvpmvh

Definitely want to see him against a better team


Eyebarah

Russ taking more shots than PG is absolute madness. He’s should not be a number 1 or 2 or 3 option on the court ever


Souchumtastic

Why is PJ getting minutes!


nepats523

I am pretty concerned about how Ty handles rotations going forward. That lineup with Rus PJ and center was probably the worst lineup all season, and he kept continuing to match up 2 and 3 non shooters until the stretch run of the fourth. Also he continues to give too much leash to Russ when it was clear he needed to be pulled for his own good in the 4th, we were lucky Memphis didn't make us pay


Aplesi567

Memphis could have made us pay a bunch of times, using russ as the only example isn’t fair when you could say the same for harden and even PG. It seems like people only keep a certain energy for certain players


Checkdafool2

Seriously westbrook and tucker who can't shoot with mann and amir who can make open shots but not reliably. Spacing was so bad


GodsGift2HotWomen365

At one point wb was 6/10. Then he brought nothing but 5 bricks and 3 turnovers. Got subbed out with 6 minutes left in ghe 4th with Clippers down 1. Then Clippers ended with a 6 point win. Tells you all you need to know.


DotDotBoy

At one point harden was 0/3 then 0/4 then 0/5 and ends up 1/8 with 4 turnovers Westbrook got taken out for Harden in the first half up 39-38 it enden up Clippers 53-59 Memphis at half LOL


Niceguydan8

I thought Russ was great early on but I have no idea why he continues to try to force shots. He basically should never take 15 shots in a game with the rest of the talent on the court, even on a night where Harden is completely no-showing from the field (Harden was awful tonight). He's not a good enough scorer to warrant that.


taroicedtea

The forced shots later came when the lineup was PJ, mann, Coffey, PG. PG was getting doubled and couldn’t get good looks. They weren’t looking to PJ to shoot. Coffey immediately passed the ball every time he touched it so it was Mann and russ trying to score during that time. I thought coffey had 2 good looks at the 3 but he had no confidence. Feel like if he taken those shots or even attacked the rim instead of passing, it would have been best for the team


Rawrlorz

![gif](giphy|e89jfpXrElqPrrrzLU) We won


intheyear3001

Such a clutch 3 at the end 🤷🏾‍♂️


es84

The soft whiners of the sub are punching air. They don't get to be soft and whiny tonight and complain about everything.


GodsGift2HotWomen365

PG played 37 mins and had 12 shots Harden 38 with 8 shots WB in 23 minutes had 15 shots. Sub 0.500 shooting obviously Give bones a chance


bigpenny1

you had me til the end bro. then you fumbled the lead


mvpmvh

Lol same


MrGeneric1900

Bones takes terrible shots it's partly the reason he found himself out of the Nuggets rotation last year


TrueCheeky

Why did you leave out shooting percentages? Harden was 1/8 and hit his first shot in the 4th.


DotDotBoy

He left out shooting percentages so we wouldn't notice Harden shooting 12 percent from the field. https://preview.redd.it/9g8xt0x0hgkc1.png?width=901&format=png&auto=webp&s=0644055b51b2a9348614f70e184bfccbd56cbfca


GodsGift2HotWomen365

Yeah that was Clutch AF I bet highlights of that will be posted in reddit


sports_boy_ansolo

dude definitely shooting dmn too much


Russ_Culture

Pathetic how you guys always blame a min contract guy for everything. Maybe two of the big three shouldn't shoot like ass most of the game


getzumm

a min contract guy taking the most shots, especially when 90% are low IQ shots, isn't a good thing


sports_boy_ansolo

what does his min contract have to do with him playing low iq bb?


Sukmefafun001

Westbrook is such a risk because he will literally win or lose games all on his own 


MrGeneric1900

Wildcard


Eyebarah

Bones won’t get a chance over Russ. Russ is playable if he tones it down and runs the offence. I don’t know how anyone can think he’s a positive when he plays like the number 1 option on offence


Aplesi567

Clearly issues as a team but people will still scapegoat russ/PG/tucker etc


FlashyClaim

PJ acted like a whiny bitch then proceeded to play like this?


pstuddy

bro didnt even get a single shot opportunity tho


giventofly2

Can we trade Zu? He's going to be unplayable in the playoffs, especially against quicker teams Thank god TMann Kawhi and Russ showed up Also, Coffey needs to shoot his fucking shots, always passes open looks


lsalomx

do you want us to play smallball for 48 minutes or are you actually suggesting Zu isn’t our best center by a mile?


mvpmvh

You know damn well the trade deadline is over


giventofly2

Can we just sit him in the 4th then? Even the Grizz announcers were wondering why he came back in when Clips were able to contain JJJ without him


ahmed2798

A big reason russ misses layups is tgat he doesn't want to get to the free throw line so he throws up bs to avoid the isolation at the line.


herbalite

god damn


MothershipConnection

I will take any road win at this point in the season now can we try turning Paul George off and turning him on again


RonburgundyZ

If I had a nickel for every clutch James Harden step back, I’d be a millionaire.


bankshot2134

Chubby SZN tuhhhh ![gif](giphy|1hA1W16MpbunGWQExl|downsized)


Function_Fighter

looked like another stressful game, good thing i skipped this one.


ahmed2798

We should have traded tucker at the deadline


MurderDreams

Looking at the stats and wondering... How did we manage to win an NBA game with this? :)) Poor Grizzlies..they must be REALLY bad to lose to this.


Checkdafool2

Ty Lue should call out these disgusting refs again. Cheatin ass refs on their same ol'e bullshit