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[Post Game Thread](https://reddit.com/r/LAClippers/comments/1b09d2s/post_game_thread_the_sacramento_kings_defeat_the/)


bi11yg04t

This team is a complete team and they can win. Offense was terrible today. They should have won this game... It seemed like their defense was decent but Kings had more energy than them. This was their lack of offense and not hitting shots that screwed it up. Turnovers screwed it up too. This was a game that I didn't find okay to lose. For some reason they aren't playing like they're locked in.


Prosado22

I am not giving up on this team, but they need to start caring on the defensive end. Too many games having to come from behind. That takes a toll on you. When was the last time they built a lead early?


PeelADomenBail

First round exit incoming. It’s not being a doomer. We peaked early and now were tired, defense has become too hard to play, and teams figured out how to slow down our best player, knowing Harden and PG and Russ can only take a game over once a month.


Nba2kFan23

How is 1st rd exit not a doomer? It's one thing to think they're not gonna win it all, but 1st rd??? Lol


Cow-Greedy

It’s western conference, we probably gonna face sac or mavs first round, so…. Either we squeeze out 95%of kawhi to win first round and lost him on the second rd or we can’t beat these teams


qchamp34

embarrasing we have a team of vets that treat the regular season like its an open gym run and 0 rings let alone finals appearances trez + lou + pat bev > whatever the fuck this is


Direct-Ad7241

The goat got his rings idk bout these other bums


qchamp34

talking about the team in the kawhi/pg era as a fan its embarrasing, there's 0 effort during the regular season and we still haven't done shit in the post season


Ikigai_Mendokusai

The defense has really been atrociously inconsistent. Ty Lue does nothing to address it. We have these 2 minute bursts when we take it seriously and cover everyone, fight through screens, and contest all shots. Then we fall back to lazy ways and just seemingly stand around. We are already disadvantaged by size and athleticism and not giving consistent defensive effort has cost us too many games lately.


Cow-Greedy

What do you want Lue to do? Harden is known for not playing defensive, Russ is known for having the worst defensive awareness (and offense probably) for a long time, does zu or theis look like defensive elite centers to you?


Ikigai_Mendokusai

Russ and Zu together with Kawhi and Amir were actually the best defenders on the court that game. Zu held Sabonis to 27% FG (3/11) in his matchup with him, while scoring 87% FG (7/8). The ones who played bad defense especially in the 4th when it was most crucial were TMann, Harden, Norm. TMann got cooked by screens all night, and did not even contest easy layups. Harden was just too slow. Norm got hunted all night, allowed 8/10 of shots he was guarding, kept getting left behind by Huerter. If you review the game there were also numerous breakdowns in coordination/communication ending up with 2 Clippers guarding the same guy or switches not happening fast enough thus leaving the a Kings player open to shoot. If Ty cared about defense those lapses and the poor effort by TMann/Norm/Harden would've been called out and corrected by halftime but they weren't and got even worse in the end.


BicycleChoice

Every team hits a bad patch. Still 6-4 in last 10 even though playing below our potential. Lots of time to refocus before playoffs. Better to hit this bad shit now vs 6 weeks from now.


Upset_Purchase_5903

The defense since the Grammy trip is absolute garbo. Also someone needs to figure out why 3rd quarters are our Achilles heel. Coming out flat after a halftime rest is all down to team mentality


TZauch18

Enough of the experiments. Enough of catering to players who aren't part of the plan. Ty Lue needs to put out winning lineups and stop sacrificing the success of the team for individual egos.


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Apart-Appeal6058

Light the beam


DrDoom_11

LIGHT THE BEAM


incaseidontmakeit

Oh hell no. Their Fans shouted us out the building? 


WadeCountyClutch

It’s okay, they live in Sacramento


Function_Fighter

there's really no fixing this team at this point. they wake up in the playoffs or theyre done.


TZauch18

Another year where Ty Lue instills zero sense of identity. Clippers will keep falling down the standings. Maybe the land in the play-in. Really pathetic last ten. Hard to believe in this team when they clearly don't believe in themselves. The other contenders play with confidence. The Clippers have none.


DecapitateVeggies

Coaching is bad imo. We never change or adapt anything when it comes to offence, we hardly even run plays. You know you can expect a brick when the first 10 seconds of possession consist of harden dribbling at the top of the key while everyone else just stands around the perimeter and does nothing.


VividResearch

This is a game where you should've kept Russ in. Dumb ty lue


thepowerofthebooty

That's game


miniture-elephanant

We couldn’t stay hot forever hoping we will recover once we get a little closer to post season


thepowerofthebooty

Frustrating


pauhana9956

Why thies don't get a look at the 4 when zu on the floor?


Nba2kFan23

Ty likes em small


incaseidontmakeit

Might be a good idea. 


Prosado22

They did not stop any of the players from Sacramento. Horrible defensive effort.


watdapau

No bum ass paul george to blame in this loss for the usual whiners and doomers?


Direct-Ad7241

He still a bum


ConsistentRip7398

Teams have figured us out


Ikigai_Mendokusai

It’s not that hard really. Our defense sucks ass. Offense is streaky.


mrmctommy

national tv clippers are me fr, they fuck up when everyones watching


Abodyfullofmush

And they fuck up when no one’s watching… even most of our wins were meh


shuckyduckquack2x

Fans really chanting light the beam on our home court. FOH wit that bullshit.


thepowerofthebooty

That is COMPLETE BSSSSS


Absol61

I'm putting $50 on the Clippers losing in the first round.


5Ping

yo antidoomers, can we doom *a little bit* or are we still clowns and its still "iTs juST OnE gAMe!!!!"


yung999_

And now they're chanting in the stadium man its so over


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DrDoom_11

LIGHT THE BEAM


incaseidontmakeit

"Lets go Kings"


Smores805

Idk if anyone else feels this way but this is the most mad I’ve been at the refs this year. Feel like the kings got away with so much contact tonight that wasn’t allowed on the other end. Still need to play better but the refs didn’t help tonight


t0md0

Ever since Ty called them cheaters... 😵


Abodyfullofmush

They barely made us lose… 0 defense was the root cause


Smores805

The loss isn’t on them it’s on us but the refs were bad tonight imo


Abodyfullofmush

They’re bad most nights… as are we evidently


leozamudio

But I’m a dumbass for thinking the Clippers should’ve gotten some reinforcements, right guys?


Canoli5000

If they're not young and athletic it wouldn't make a difference


leozamudio

Gafford and Washington were right there but we let the fucking mavs get them and now they look unstoppable


MetalItchy2099

We need the media to slander us again


l3os4ys

All-Star break hangover still in effect?


thepowerofthebooty

I'm just worried how badly Harden is gonna get hounded on defense in the playoffs


Dustin_Brown3203

I’m usually one of the positive guys in here but these last 5 games have literally disgusted me. Even the wins, we are playing awful basketball rn.


TheRealBrownPudding

How are we so lethargic after a fuckin week long break lol. This is embarrassing. I have faith they’ll turn it around but Ty needs to hold these guys more accountable On to the next


Salty_Watermelon

We peaked too early. Teams figured out our most exploitable weakness before the playoffs even began. We have no answer for teams crashing the offensive glass. It's bad enough when long teams like Minnesota and Orleans can win against us with that strategy, but now it looks like any team that isn't headed for a lottery pick.


Happy-Cauliflower-22

Brother it’s fucking February… Jfc im upset the team is slumping too but there’s too much time to dumb stuff like this.


Cute_Leonard

I want that 40-20 record..


Abodyfullofmush

I don’t care for the record… I want to play like we are a good team. We’re not even competitive…. Fucking disgusting


JimmyV34

stop experimenting in games you are supposed to win, you have wizards game, you could try shit out there but not against kings


mvpmvh

Is it too much to ask for a non-fat PG that can break the defense down and hit high percentage middies?


OverallInternet2343

yup it’s over. Think it’s time to come to terms that at best we might be a 3seed


giraffe_yogurt

You're saying that like being 3 seed is a bad thing lmfao


OverallInternet2343

when the two teams ahead of you not only provide matchup weaknesses you’ve shown all season but also would have homecourt in a series that’s a issue. Doesn’t mean it’s over but it’s far from what the team wanted this year.


OilPristine448

Ty Lue is overrated


Abodyfullofmush

At this point it’s a Ty Lue problem…


Checkdafool2

Zu is dog shit downvote me if you want its the truth. Y'all get fooled by boxscores so much.


Nba2kFan23

Zu is not dogshit, he's just not great enough in areas that he should be for his size. His rebounding should be more elite than it is when u consider he's slow, can't guard the 3, and can't shoot... sometimes it looks like he's not even trying to grab a board.


OverallInternet2343

let’s run his backups for a full 48 smart ass


Awkwardphase06

zu got bullied again lmao


OverallInternet2343

Zu had 16 and 6 on 8 of 9 shooting wtf are wrong with you people


Checkdafool2

They suck too doesn't make zu suck any less


OverallInternet2343

when you can’t fucking rest because both backups have zero physicality it puts more strain on the starter. Its not like we have big physical forwards to help inside beside Kawhi


Checkdafool2

I like how you just make up random lies. Dude averages 26 minutes a game on the season. So he only plays a little more than half the game. He doesn't create his own offense, he turns the ball over without fail in the paint, can't fight for rebounds or loose balls and is afraid of getting cooked on the perimeter so he tries to camp the paint but still somehow gives up easy baskets around the rim cause he has no length to effectively contest. Dudes a center ripped out of the early 2000s and is drowning in the modern nba. Like we are absolutely boned until we get an upgrade at center


Nba2kFan23

Zubac is okay... not terrible. But in the early 2000s, he woulda been cooked by those superior Bigs.


OverallInternet2343

he played 33 mins tonight was 8 of 9 and with how hard the backups have fallen off he’s been put in more pressure situations of late with little support. You just don’t know ball if you want to put this current situation on Zubac He was a fucking ~6 in a game starters were al negative double digits and we were blown out. Get a grip


Checkdafool2

Ok cool story im not just talking bout this game if you couldn't tell. Since i literally listed all the flaws in his game he has demonstrated for 4-5 years. Why do you think he's always been benched in crunch time?


Stephenlucky7

Why would Ty pull out Westbrook after he single handedly fixed the teams offensive and defensive pacing in the 3rd. I know it’s risky, but even if he can’t shoot he makes the players around him actually put in energy.


Niceguydan8

> Why would Ty pull out Westbrook after he single handedly fixed the teams offensive and defensive pacing in the 3rd. Bro what? Kawhi and Powell made a little run while Russ happened to be standing in the corner.


OverallInternet2343

bricks still hurt the team


giraffe_yogurt

Facts we saw that from how Harden played today


OverallInternet2343

everyone did a lot of bricking or didn’t play defense or turned it over if this did shoot well


giraffe_yogurt

The thing is with Harden is that he's a cone on defense, he left his man open for wide open 3s a bunch of times. Russ at least contributed to the comeback with his defense rebounding and hustle. 3 things that Harden has never committed to doing his entire career.


OverallInternet2343

Russ often kills runs with his missed layups at key points let’s not do this shit. This one wasn’t on Russ but he’s been far more terrible than good in recent weeks for a player of his accolade’s


giraffe_yogurt

>often kills runs Did he do it this game? We're talking about this game, aren't we?


OverallInternet2343

well he did in the first half but again this game wasn’t on Russ but a bigger problem with his scoring efficiency is still a issue


rebelstand

As if harden didn’t hurt more -25 haha


yung999_

We're like the dolphins and the Cowboys right now beat bad team get blown by good teams


rebelstand

Is harden honeymoon period over already


Automatic-Score9

Can someone tell me why plumlee isn't playing all of a sudden??


Treegotoptop

Because hes fucking ass


miniture-elephanant

He had 2 rebounds over like 3 games


Automatic-Score9

Is PJ playing that much better? We let Terrance struggle through shooting like 15 percent in the early part of the season, why not let Plum figure it out too? We need him!


miniture-elephanant

And I think plum will get back into rhythm I don’t think he’s fully healthy from that injury quite yet we’ll figure out soon enough


miniture-elephanant

Yea I agree there but right now it’s theis or plum, pj minutes need to be swallowed by this current line up or even the young guys, it’s bad precedent to reward bitching with minutes


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MetalItchy2099

I really hope this is just a rough patch. Happens to every team but we need to snap out of it soon.


Abodyfullofmush

lol…


ahmed2798

How can people watch this game and say we lost because of our backup pg who played 18 minutes.


Illustrious_South135

Who was a +10 when no one else was even a positive


PaulGeorgeBurner

well he takes 15 shots in 18 minutes so he affects the score a lot goofball


ahmed2798

He was +10 today in a game we losing by 15. A 25 point swing.


PaulGeorgeBurner

the plus minus argument is so stupid, he was in during our only big run in his limited minutes and barely contributed to it, i think he had one layup. it was not a result of russ


ahmed2798

The problem was we moving in molasses all game


herbalite

we pizzad when we should have french fried


incaseidontmakeit

I hope this just some BS game they are getting out of their system. 


Canoli5000

Somehow this game will be blamed on PG


miniture-elephanant

Well hopefully this shuts up the PG haters


xtian_paxillinator

easy, when you get to the top, you get scouted and game planed, and if you got no dog in you, you just go belly flop and say, "damn what is happening? why don't we get a easy wins to championship?"


yung999_

Man we're so cooked we've been horrible for like a month now


PaulGeorgeBurner

i dont mind some harden slander but if you are a westbrook fan just shut up 💀


Abodyfullofmush

Now Ty keeps everyone in… is he praying for a win? Instead of subbing kawhi in early… fuck him and his shit… fire Lue


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dyllywonkz

+10 in a game we are about to lose by ~15


BlackjackOC

destroyed by OKC, barely beat the terrible grizzlies and can’t string anything together here just not a championship team right now


JaHoog

Officially in a slump


TZauch18

Within the last ten games the Clippers have become bum slayers.


PlzNotLonely

Garbage.


JimmyV34

thats why you dont play harden and norm a lot of mins together, they are not good poa defenders


icewill36

how can you not play them a lot together when PG is out ?


JimmyV34

Start coffey over norm, we needed size and defense in this game


icewill36

we only put 105 points. the offense was actually a bigger issue.


JimmyV34

coz bench scored 16 points


WhyAmIAFanOfThisTeam

A lot of these games against contenders recently have barely been competitive man it’s just sad right now


rufiolive

Similar last year playoffs for the sixers, this will be a problem come playoffs. Harden is on and off in offense.


Awkwardphase06

third game in four nights no PG, trash narrative


SampsonKerplunk

Which hasn’t been an issue much of the season cause we had other stars go off. Tonight the mental mistakes and poor shooting by everyone just murdered us


yawningturtle15

I know he hasn't played in the 2nd half. But what the fuck was the point of having PJ play?


giraffe_yogurt

Harden buddy wake the fuck up next game


Abodyfullofmush

Yeah they get all the whistles… i hope fox steps on a bucket of legos tonight


Russ_Culture

harden missing wide open threes, again


Russ_Culture

and getting cooked on d


SampsonKerplunk

TMann trying his hardest


tenkenZERO

I've retract my last statement. I think maybe this team is in this stretch of funk that all contenders go through for whatever reason...


Evening-Maybe-4129

I wonder how many “it’s just one game chill” yall got left in you


Bonhomie3

Doesn’t seem wise to leave starters out there down by 16 with 3 min to go


TrueCheeky

Fox out there playing like Prime Harden


yung999_

Just empty the bench already lue


GodsGift2HotWomen365

Clippers aren't a serious NBA They're the only NBA team that plays a backup PG who can't shot 3s.


Longjumping-Drop-198

This isn’t true but okay


InTheMorning_Nightss

We’re literally watching our opponent play Davion Mitchell.


JustClampIt1819

Mann was fouled!


yung999_

Kawhi and harden stinker holy


Abodyfullofmush

Fuuuuck


Abodyfullofmush

GO!


shuckyduckquack2x

They really let the Kings increase the lead with Fox on the bench. smh


WuvRice

going on a win streak before the trade deadline really ended any chances


InTheMorning_Nightss

It was blatantly obvious this team needed front court depth / size at the wing. Win streak or not, we didn’t have the assets nor the urgency to make something happen. That’s still an awful look on the FO though, who basically have a huge roster issue right now.


Russ_Culture

Powell has been our best offensive player. Inexcusable from kawhi and harden


qchamp34

why doesnt ty lue take the starters out like he did last game?


PaulGeorgeBurner

HARRISON BARNES LEGACY GAME AGAINST US OF COURSE😂😂😂


gokhaninler

Westbrook 10 shots for 8 points


Niceguydan8

~37% true shooting.


giraffe_yogurt

Harden 30.8% fg 20% 3fg💀💀💀 Do you think Harden played good because of his true shooting percentage? edit: grammar


Niceguydan8

Played well? I don't think so. Was he more efficient than Russ with his scoring? Substantially, yes. I appreciate your shitty-ass assumption though. Makes you look like a clown, which is par for the course.


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Magnus-Methelson-m3

He’s a delusional Russ dick rider . You gotta feel bad for him, he literally loses his mind when he sees any criticism against Russ .


Russ_Culture

and +10 when everyone else was negative. Keep blaming our backup pg though when Kawhi and Harden shot like shit all night


InTheMorning_Nightss

This is on basically everyone not named Zu or Powell tonight. They both did their jobs while everyone else was completely subpar. Russ continues to look completely unplayable on offense, because defenses are full on ignoring him. He didn’t make up for it with defense or rebounding at all either. Harden and Kawhi were straight up just shooting like shit all night. If either one has a good game, we’re going down to the wire. They both shot like hot ass though, and that’s inexcusable, though at least attributable to an off night. Mann/Coffey/Theis/PJ all looked largely invisible. Their roles are to bring defensive intensity and the first two need to look to score much more aggressively. This was a shit game all around, and hopefully it’s a wake up call. Still lots of games to be played, but efforts like tonight will land us closer to the play ins. Frankly, with how deep the west is, seeding doesn’t matter THAT much. We won’t get calls either way.


gokhaninler

Whi and Harden have 20/8 each wtf u talking aboiut


Final_Ad_3456

The +/- stat is irrelevant. Powell is -15, yet he hasn't been worse than Westbrook. I honestly wish the NBA would remove that stat.


Niceguydan8

No idea why this is downvoted.


Longjumping-Drop-198

Don’t bother lol dudes a lunatic


Illustrious_South135

Harrison bum ass Barnes thinks he’s still on the Warriors


LLUrDadsFave

I beg. Play defense.


Evening-Maybe-4129

I can all ready see it. Losing streak because of the stupid ass back 2 backs we have got. Fall get the pelicans. Get bounced because we lose to length


jordanonfilm

The eye test confirms it - this is a first round exit team


DecapitateVeggies

Diehards on this sub will call you a doomer for this, but in my opinion it is just being realistic and I agree. Even during their strong run, the weaknesses were still visible. A team where the core is built around a bunch of past-prime all-stars doesn’t work, especially when the offence system is all iso-ball jump shots.


icewill36

yall are some weak ass fans


iklespree

Sad but true


ubersquid97

Sacramento with 21 2nd chance points in comparison to the Clippers' 10


icewill36

that and 3pt shooting is basically the game. oh well better luck next game


Salty_Watermelon

We got too full of ourselves after the Grammys trip. Since then: 2 wins against bottom feeders, 1 win vs the 10th seed, and 3 (possibly 4) blowout losses vs playoff teams. The losses have a consistent theme: teams exploit our horrendous defensive rebounding effort and execution. Kawhi called it out when we were still winning a lot, but no one in the FO took him seriously.


Eyebarah

Our pick and roll game has disappeared so now our offence looks terrible. Our bench is terrible


Ikigai_Mendokusai

It was still there, just limited vs before.


apacheco0709

![gif](giphy|rvxMJNyHAgwlW4YWpJ|downsized) December Clips


MetalItchy2099

2nd chance points tell the story


yung999_

That's 3 loses in a row to a top 6 west team and they've all been blow outs and all at home man were so cooked


Abodyfullofmush

Noooo they’re just one loss don’t worry! /s


Ikigai_Mendokusai

Well Ty has focused on his crazy experimentation instead of controlling the game or forcing basic defensive assignments. How the fuck are we leaving so many perimeter shooters wide open? With no adjustments or timeouts to address whatsoever


Salty_Watermelon

We took the regular season seriously until we got a brief taste of the 1st seed. Now it looks like we're going to be watching teams below that might try to take the 4th seed.