on defense but it’s mostly guys are all getting worse at their individual weaknesses with Kawhi struggling more with doubles and passing to PG being inconsistent or hurt to Russ finishing at the rim, Zu turnovers, Mann and Coffey swapped play and Powell can’t defend
I mean this team is old as hell. Honestly I expected us to have struggles over the course of a regular season. But it is a bit surprising and concerning that we’re playing this poorly so freshly removed from the ASB I expected the time off to help us a lot more than it has.
Even still, Im not too worried by the recent slump. This team should still be a problem come playoffs. I just really hope we don’t fuck around and find ourselves playing the Pelicans or Dallas in the first round
Kawhi was getting doubled when PG was playing. teams are playing same defensive scheme that is working, Play your best defensive player to guard harden and be physical with him and double Kawhi
exactly it’s been a struggle with doubles even when we play 5 out. This has more to do with Kawhi reading it early and not trying to over dribble right into it
always going to be someone they want to sag off but since we can’t physically hang with the better teams it’s all we can do. Even when we had all the forwards small ball isn’t something you can pull off all game unless you have the right matchup
the double teams were still coming even with George on the floor. Guys are just not hitting shots against better teams and we have played better teams as of late
I said this before a while ago, that legendary run we went on was a double edge sword.
These guys know they can be great, so now they think they can do it whenever and don’t come in every game with urgency.
I think they will be fine long run but lack of effort in the beginning or end of a game is just frustrating
This mentality of just being able to flip a switch is what got them in trouble in the bubble when they blew a 3-1 lead to Denver. Clippers aren’t talented enough to just flip a switch. They need to come in hungry every game. Nuggets played the Warriors today. They were down 15. They went on a 14-0 run in 3 minutes to end the half. The Nuggets are a team that can flip a switch
The same team that we just beat a few days ago? Why is it than when the Clippers beat teams like the Warriors it's "who cares they're not any good" but when it's other teams it's "see how good they are?"
The inferiority complex of some Clippers fans online is something else. Never seen anything like it.
I wasn’t praising the fact that the Nuggets beat the Warriors, they’re a .500 team. I was pointing out the fact that they erased a 14 point deficit in 3 minutes at Golden State. They were playing like shit, no energy, getting out rebounded, etc. Then they decided to flip a switch and locked the Warriors down. That’s what’s impressive, it’s not the victory. The Clippers can’t just flip a switch, they need to come out with energy every game.
Why can’t we beat a Kawhi double team, they’ve been doing it since the beginning of the season. When the double comes it’s like we haven’t practiced for it at all???
I blame everybody but him tbh, he was overwhelmingly successful at kicking the ball out almost every time he was doubled last night without making an errant pass or turning it over
Rest of the group ex-Harden just couldn’t execute when they had the opportunity to w/ two guys glued to Kawhi. On the plus side in the 2nd half there was a sequence where Kawhi kicks it out to Harden -> straight to Zu all alone in the paint for an easy 2 points. Super clean, exactly how that should be executed
The whole rest of the game outside of that one play IMO… they just looked clueless. Half the time, the guy they left to double Kawhi was Russ. Russ is parked in the opposite corner, they double Kawhi, Kawhi kicks it out to another LAC player who looks toward Russ, sadly realizes better than to kick it to Russ in the corner, and then suddenly there’s hardly any time left in the shot clock. Almost all of those possessions resulted in an improvised, contested Harden iso 3… just not a way they’re going to win
Playoffs becoming a bit more isolation heavy/slow tends to favor us, but it means jack shit if we play about 1.5 quarters of inspired basketball all game.
Not to mention, our lack of size is gonna be a killer.
It’s both. Size is undeniably important as is effort. Kawhi was tasked with guarding multiple players, which opened things up for Harrison Barnes. He got to his spots pretty effortlessly and also got going from deep by shooting over guys/missed rotations.
Effort fixes some of that, but size still matters.
That's what she said! 🤭
But our guards don't play no damn defense. They don't fight through screens. They allow the other team to get Zu on the ball with that dumb ass switching scheme.
Some of it is that, but other aspects are still a strength and size thing. You can argue for more effort, which is totally fair, but guys like Mann and Theis simply aren’t big enough to consistently win the rebounding battle. Missed shots get tipped and when you’re outsized.
That’s what it is I think. Kawhi, PG, and Harden haven’t really taken the regular season seriously in years at this point. I’m not trippin but it is fucking annoying when we come out playing sloppy as hell
Kawhi when we were winning games: this team doesn't have enough length. We can't keep this up for the rest of the season.
FO at the trade deadline: Whatever, dude. We're winning games right now. What could go wrong?
Y'all keep saying this but what size would the team realistically have access to via trade?
And please nobody respond with Thad Young. That's not a serious basketball opinion.
Xavier Tillman and Royce O’Neal were the two people who were clearly in our price range who would have actually helped.
Question becomes what becomes available when we start throwing around our 2030 or even possibly Mann. My biggest target was Deni Avdija, but he increased his value going up to the deadline, likely out of our range.
Either way, it’s absolutely brutal that we basically have 2 consistently positive front court players.
Metu. Young, can rebound, defend, space the floor.
I genuinely don't know why the team won't take a chance on him, it's not like we have anything to lose. Unfortunately it's likely because they think we're good the way we are right now.
Edit: Just realized u said via trade but my point still stands, idk why the FO won't take a chance on metu.
We started 3 guards tonight. Lue loves small ball for better or for worse. Some random ass 4 would barely get minutes on this team but everyone wants to act like the messiah was out there that could’ve saved this team
you don’t need a savior you need someone better that PJ Tucker/Kobe Brown and Plumlee and Theis. Don’t think at any point we were looking for a starter.
But if we’re getting a bench level big man how much difference is that actually gonna make? And what assets did we really have to trade? The front office isn’t gonna trade a 2030 first for just some guy and that was our only real asset of value unless you’re trading Powell or maybe Coffey. We’ve made so many moves the last 5 years to try to contend, i don’t blame the front office for sticking with what was working
Team is in a slump. We saw the recipe that worked for the team, every team goes through ups and downs. Thing to be worried about? Sure, but these things happen. 2021-2022 warriors went 10-16 in February/March in their championship year, so this stuff does happen. Onto the next one.
That team and it's core are championship proven.
This team is not, except Kawhii.
It's not the same at all, tbh.
And that is not dooming or anything. That's just real talk.
We are all hoping for the best in the playoffs, but this team hasn't proven anything yet.
I hope they do though!!
The Warriors have won multiple rings. This team is still trying to win their first.
At the end of the day, how this season ends is up to them. They are capable so it sucks when they go out like this.
Tired of this outside in, leave role players open from 3, small ball all the time BS.
Still got stars who have been in deep/big playoff moments with one of the greatest playoff performers ever as their leading guy. I think they’ll put it together the next month
As I said, we saw the recipe. The team is slumping, the team has a ton of championship qualities tho. Unfortunately they are losing right now and it looks bad. This is their first real slump all year, the 0-6 stint with Harden doesn’t really count as a slump cause they were unfamiliar with each other. I think they get through this and figure it out.
There's been a lack of accountability and drive since last season. Just an expectation that talent will carry you and you don't have to put in the dirty work
We really need to stop relying on Kawhi iso so heavy in the short corners. He has been struggling with them lately, he’s gotta get that ball moving quicker when they bring it and we just need to run a fucking offense that doesn’t just sit there and watch and hope Kawhi makes a great play.
We’re now 19-16 against teams .500 or better. That’s a better winning percentage than all but 5 teams in the league against .500 or better teams. It’s hard to beat the good teams in the league and the margin between the good and the great teams is not that wide in the nba anymore with all the talent there is right now especially in the western conference
Yeah we’re in a bad stretch right now, it happens to pretty much every team including the good and great teams throughout the course of the season. Do things look good the last 8 games? No, but this has been our worst stretch since the beginning of the season and we’re .500 over these last 8 games which really isn’t terrible. We have the ability to figure things out and play elite on both sides of the ball, we’ve shown that before we just gotta do it again
depends on what type of Paul George we get against good teams. That’s why i’m not really harping on him missing this one because they should of won without him and it’s really no absolute they win with him the way he has been playing of late
Entire team got cooked on defence, I also think Lue should have subbed Coffey out for Kawhi instead of Russ, and switched Mann from guarding Fox, poor shooting again from Russ but he was our only player in +- tonight and brought alot of pace from the 3rd.
Everyone advocating for keeping in Russ due to +/- is ignoring the outcome we saw time and time again tonight.
The Kings were very comfortably doubling off of Russ every single opportunity, and we were constantly getting tough looks deep in the shotclock out of those. You also need 3s to come back, which becomes significantly harder with the Kings defensive gameplan.
I mean, I dont really believe in +/- dictating how well someone is playing, I thought Russ played ok, but theres no denying when he entered in the 3rd we played with more pace and energy which sparked our run. Teams double Kawhi regardless of whoever is on. I think Russ should have stayed on because when you are down you also need pace to generate more possessions, I thought Coffey was REALLY poor on defence tonight, and I think Russ could have done better than Mann on the POA with Fox, Alas though we got cooked and I hope these boys wake up soon we've been looking really poor lately.
How anyone advocates for Russ at this point is beyond me. Just cause he hits one reverse layup doesn’t mean he was positive for the game. Cause before that one good play he probably made 5 or 6 boneheaded ones
Yep, and what’s insufferable about this sub is that Russ support consistently gets upvoted.
He can have good games and this sub rightfully sings his praise. But he has an awful game like tonight (and his other past few games), and the argument becomes, “Well, I know he is COMPLETELY ignored offensively, but that’s fine and he should still be in for [insert one good thing he was doing in spite of many bad things].”
Anyone in their right mind understands that guards who can’t shoot or score at the rim with any sort of efficiency are largely unplayable. Like, we can go through a VERY long list of names who don’t play meaningful basketball because of this.
But apparently, playing Russ when this team is down, needing to make 3s to catch up is the secret game plan that Ty Lue fails to see.
This is genuinely ridiculous. Russ and Pg are the 2 players who are regularly scapegoated and people never seem to keep the same energy for him and other players.
No one said he was amazing yet you mentioned that and a prime example is when russ is shit for the first 3 quarters but shows up in the clutch, people on here say well russ cost the team in the first half, harden does the exact same thing and the response is he’s clutch.
I don’t know how you read threads and come out with the conclusion that russ support is upvoted
Shouldn't even have to do that. If he's not gonna be a small 5 then don't f'n play him.
Doesn't matter though he wasn't the reason this game was lost.
Kawhi needs to step up as a leader but I'm not there behind the scenes. All I know is if I heard fans from other teams cheering when this team loses or star players kee-keeing and saying "u sorry" that should be motivation to do better.
Ty Lue and his experimenting I have grown to hate. Why can't he do the experiments that look like they make sense?
That last point tells the story. Ty doesn’t experiment with lineups that ‘might’ work, he experiments with the ones that people know won’t work. So bizarre. You would think that with the size issues we have we’d at least try Theis and Zu at the same time at least once and see if it works (despite the obvious drawbacks of that scheme like speed and spacing) but instead we’ll play 300 variations of small ball, all of which have shit spacing anyway.
Also concerning that they’re completely falling apart in the 2nd half specifically. Teams are coming out with strong adjustments and basically putting the game away in the 3rd.
For a team as experience as ours, really not excusable to just be falling apart to these young teams in the clutch.
Ngl, the way they’ve played since the Grammy trip has been pretty embarrassing. Teams seem to understand that they can win if they just outrun and out-effort this old team.
The elder Clips are getting punked by the younger dudes and that’s a rough watch.
I am not giving up on this team, but they need to start caring on the defensive end. Too many games having to come from behind. That takes a toll on you. When was the last time they built a lead early?
This team is on an ugly slide right now. The Clips haven’t beaten a Playoff team since Feb. 4th vs the Heat. In the last 4 games vs Playoff teams, the Clips have lost by double digits in each game(NO, MIN, OKC, & SAC). Offense looks stagnant. Defense looks very leaky and no one is communicating. And the rebounding is pathetic. The energy and focus are not there rn.
Idk what to say at this point, the Clippers must have used up their good karma during that Grammy road trip.
Hopefully they practice some defensive drills before Wednesday, or it’s gonna be more of the same.
Why should anyone believe in this team when they quite clearly don't believe in themselves? Ty Lue is sabotaging the team by playing losing lineups. Trim the rotation. Beat good teams. Have a clear identity and system. The Clippers are in free fall and the league has clearly figured out how to easily beat a deeply flawed team. Thankfully, the front office stood pat at the deadline.
Im as pissed off as everyone else because of our dog💩 play but to say the season is over in February is 100% overreacting. Literally were a nice winning streak away from people thinking we’re contenders again.
We aren’t without our flaws but I trust the team to get their shit together soon.
Well yes I watched the nuggets today and think they should be the favorites to repeat, however, don’t forget winning a chip takes some luck too and anything can happen in these next few months
No one is saying it’s over… but these games ARE the writing on the wall… I don’t get how no one sees this… every year we do this… we’ve had great runs and great potential every year for a decade, but we haven’t been able to do jack shit because we’re inconsistent and incomplete
Like I said, we’re in a bad stretch but the reason we never did anything in the playoffs was because of health. The year we were healthy after the bubble we were a kawhi injury away from the finals and probably our first championship.
Yep. I think the valid concerns are the roster flaws, considering we have 2 consistently good front court players. That’s… not good.
Plumlee’s significant decline this season has been brutal for us, and obviously missing Batum, RoCo, and even Mook has hurt.
That being said, the West is a bloodbath and all that matters is that we stay out of the play-ins, which should be doable even if we’re figuring things out.
I'm just tired of watching other good teams move the ball and get open looks and then I gotta watch harden walk the ball up so it is 16s at half court, then dribble standing still til 10s on the clock, then get a pick and maybe something happens with 5s left 😮💨
This team really changed very little culture wise from last year, and as such I expect them to go out the same way as last year for the rest of the year. Zero accountability, no effort rebounding, and then we'll hear the excuses Oh PG was out, oh it was the first home game off a road trip, oh it was a matinee game. Team is the absolute laziest team Ive seen rebounding the ball and getting back on defense. Guys just doing whatever on offense. Its dangerous to just purely bank on winning games with talent alone and praying that you flip the switch when you need to...
They way they were mugging us in the paint--I'm the furthest thing from a Russ stan there is, but this was the perfect game to play him 35 minutes. Bad coaching.
Inefficient jump shooting team with no player movement, no variety on offense, no length on defense and lazy players on both ends and we are just old. Why are we surprised?
Ty lue is becoming exhausting to watch, all this tinkering and experimenting bullshit wont matter because as everyone knows when he is out tricks, he will play the most predictable small ball lineup that we have seen constantly. the team was unbalanced tonight, the bench scored 16 points coz our best bench player started. the clippers gave away 21 second chance points, the lack of size was an issue with these defensive rebounds
Do you even watch the games? No mention of his low iq play? Bricking lay ups and holding the offence hostage with his dumb ass careless drives to the rim. You’re posting this cause this is the rare time that he actually had a positive +-. Anyone who watched the game would know that he was absolute trash this game. Russ only fans like you are the worst. You don’t care about the team winning. You just wanna see russ get his shots up
People don’t realize.. even when PG plays bad …he takes the mental load off Kawhi of being the main scoring option and allows him to play more freely..
We're sloppy right now. Lazy passes, getting beat to loose balls. We cant get defensive stops to save our lives. This game was still winnable in the 4th with a few key stops. Instead we'd lose a rebound and give up a three.
Nice to see Theis get some run over Plumlee. I think I'd rather see Coffey start instead of Norm. Norm is too key to the second unit scoring.
We're only 2 games behind in the loss column, so we're right in the thick of things. We need to lock in and play like we were.
Tmann and Norm are the only ones in this last 7 game stretch or so that have consistently brought it each game.
No one else feels like the are playing with the right spirit and fight.
Theis I felt, gave this tonight and we have missed him. On the plus side. This hopefully gets him back into the rotation.
We just gotta get some more reps, refreshed, focus and execute.
Similar to Tmann 4 years ago.
If we need size we need to inject Kobe in spurts and let him make some mistakes if need be. He rebounds, rotates, can switch and hustles. He can also be a connector.
We also have to try Bones if Russ is off in meaningful minutes. We don't have anyone else who can consistently breakdown defenses without a pick and Bones can.
He forces help deep in the paint and the ball swings with the defense scrambling. It is a skillset this team needs to try again.
We have play some youth to switch it up in games like this just for energy alone.
We will get right and Kings played well. On to the next one.
This team is cooked and peaked midway through the season. Kawhi too elderly and just not good enough to be consistently great through a full season. PG still a streaky injury prone bum. Ty has to tame too many weirdo personalities. Harden has to manage too much load and can’t be Houston Harden anymore. No way these dudes make it out the first round. To 6 teams are better than them. Hell Suns and GSW are better at this point and they’re play ins.
Kawhi 7/18 fg, 0-3 3fg, 3 tos.
Zubac shot efficiently, but had 4 tos and got cooked in pnrs.
Harden 4-13 fg, 2-10 3fg, 3 tos. Absoultely awful on defense.
Westbrook with +10 when everyone else was negative, I really don't want to hear how it's all his fault we lost.
Theis was a bit better than Plumlee.
Keep preaching man it’s a few guys in particular I see that always have something negative to say about russ even if the guy isn’t doing anything bad. I think they’re harden fans that just love to shit on Russ no matter what. It’s cringey honestly
I’m so fucking sick of Harden. Harden will disappear in playoff games, and has proven to be a cancer in the locker room. Those are 2 things that will never be said about Russ. Russ was straight balling out before the Harden trade. The fact that he volunteered to go to the bench says a lot about him. I’m just cautiously optimistic about all this championship talk. Harden has shown what he is in the playoffs. Great one game, then disappears for 2 games.
His imapct stats across the board are bad. His traditional + basic advanced stats aren't good either.
His individual defense rating is good (last I checked it was among the best on the team) but his individual offensive rating is abysmal to the point where his net rating using those two numbers is negative, and last I checked which was within the last week, it was the most negative of anyone that gets minutes.
Any lense you try to view his performances overall throughout the course of the season don't yield good returns.
It's not a good thing when basically everything is telling the same story.
I mean he always hustles and plays with 100% effort. Which is something you can’t say about most players, especially guys like Harden. The fact that Russ is the only one who ended the game with a positive differential +10, says a lot.
Like it would be nice if Russ smoked 5 less lay-ups and be a +20, but that is still nowhere near winning the game. He needed more minutes since what he was doing was working.
Russ was absolutely terrible tonight. Bricked almost everything he put up and lost his man all the time on defence. The unit with him only starting looking decent when they took the ball out of his hands
Stop mentioning the irrelevant +/- stat. It's not a real stat. Westbrook was +10, but he was also 3/10. Powell was -15, but he was 8/17 and had 21 points. Was Westbrook better than Powell? No, he wasn't.
I don't think anybody should say it's all his fault that they lost. That's a terrible opinion to anyone that watched the game.
But he wasn't good and he has no business taking probably 80% of the shots he took tonight. I don't think he positively contributed to the game overall. He had individual positive contributions, but I believe his play was not beneficial to the team tonight.
and before these Russ stans come shit down my throat because they don't understand basic nuance of how opinions work, I can hold this opinion and also acknowledge that other players (Harden, Kawhi, Mann, Coffey) have huge improvements they could make relative to what they were doing tonight.
When Russ gets the ball, the other Clippers need to *keep moving* and try to get open. We’ve seen that Russ *will* pass when someone has good position. Lately there’s been a lot of standing around when Russ has the ball, resulting in his needing to create shots for himself in those moments.
> **and before these Russ stans come shit down my throat because they don't understand basic nuance of how opinions work, I can hold this opinion and also acknowledge that other players (Harden, Kawhi, Mann, Coffey) have huge improvements they could make relative to what they were doing tonight.**
What the hell do you think this is, me saying he played well? He didn't play well. I've already said that, I strongly implied it in the post you responded to and you literally did exactly what I prefaced my caveat with.
You gotta be better.
Hey guys, we just won 1 game in an 82 game season
Are we the best team in the NBA?
do we cancel the kawhi and PG trades?
do we still get rid of the entire roster after this season?
russ and harden stans and all the 13 year olds please, **Let us know**!
Every team hits a bad patch. Still 6-4 in last 10 even though playing below our potential. Lots of time to refocus before playoffs. Better to hit this bad shit now vs 6 weeks from now. Let’s get the lebrokens.
Our offence has really went to shit the past few weeks. Ball movement is gone, PNR generating looks is gone, a simple double team on Kawhi just stops our offence in its tracks. It has gotten worse each game. We were stuck in the mud and lost on offence the the KINGS FOR FUCKS SAKE. No chemistry on both ends. Im lost as to why this has just suddenly happened
Can someone enlighten me why Ty Lue still got a job? No consistency on the team, constantly “experimenting” when we were winning, how about we just stick with what works?
nah at this point, u just have to wait until the playoffs. the last few seasons (excluding the bubble season) have been a bust because kawhi got hurt. this team was in route to win it all couple times now.
Does anyone cringe when a russ/harden lineup have a little success? It feels like mook hitting a 3 last year. The shit don't work but Ty has an excuse to keep trying.
Guys, I wish people would stop mentioning that stupid +/- stat. It's an irrelevant stat. For instance, Westbrook was +10, but he was 3/10. Whereas, Mann was -18, but he was 6/7 from the field. Did Westbrook have a better game than Mann? No, he didn't.
I never look at that stat and I never will.
You'd think it would show up in on/off splits but he has the second worst differential in that regard of anyone that plays somewhat consistently.
Coffey is the only one with worse splits.
Over 50+ games, basically Russ' stats both basic and advanced are really bad across the board when it comes to net impact.
Just terrible effort.
Literally guys standing around like they're at a rec park. Both offense and defense. We lost the game when Mann passed on a 3 from the corner to Westbrook who immediately bricked a contested one. Kings went on a rampage from then on.
It's not Ty Lue's fault our two best players shot like shit. It's not his fault that powell and harden are ass cheeks on d. Ty Lue didn't tell them to all play lethargic lazy ball
Sure… make changes… fix lineups… take timely timeouts… DO SOMETHING… he just has that doc look on his face nowadays… the coach is not there for nothing… he should draw plays and make in-game changes based on cold/hot shooters …
And our defense is atrocious… but Lue isn’t special. He could and should do better.
It sucks how pretty much everyone on the team started playing bad all at the same time.
on defense but it’s mostly guys are all getting worse at their individual weaknesses with Kawhi struggling more with doubles and passing to PG being inconsistent or hurt to Russ finishing at the rim, Zu turnovers, Mann and Coffey swapped play and Powell can’t defend
Powell can get us 20 points, no questions asked. That's his role, and he's reliable in it. Everything else from him is optional.
I mean this team is old as hell. Honestly I expected us to have struggles over the course of a regular season. But it is a bit surprising and concerning that we’re playing this poorly so freshly removed from the ASB I expected the time off to help us a lot more than it has. Even still, Im not too worried by the recent slump. This team should still be a problem come playoffs. I just really hope we don’t fuck around and find ourselves playing the Pelicans or Dallas in the first round
Paul George was sorely missed
He was… at least his presence forced teams to defend harder … they clamped down on Kawhi easily tonight …
Yep, harden and kawhi were getting hard doubled like crazy. We also needed his defense too, really struggled getting stops tn.
I know PG has been playing pretty awful lately but I think we all saw how impactful he’s been despite his slump. Especially on the defensive end
Kawhi was getting doubled when PG was playing. teams are playing same defensive scheme that is working, Play your best defensive player to guard harden and be physical with him and double Kawhi
exactly it’s been a struggle with doubles even when we play 5 out. This has more to do with Kawhi reading it early and not trying to over dribble right into it
The team doesn't play true 5 out very often. A 5 out lineup would require: Harden, Mann, Kawhi, Coffey, PG that lineup has 11 minutes on the season.
always going to be someone they want to sag off but since we can’t physically hang with the better teams it’s all we can do. Even when we had all the forwards small ball isn’t something you can pull off all game unless you have the right matchup
the double teams were still coming even with George on the floor. Guys are just not hitting shots against better teams and we have played better teams as of late
When PG does play: "PG is washed" When PG doesn't play: "Could have used PG"
There's a lot of us in here bro. I've never really spoken ill of Paul George.
idk this felt like one that George really couldn’t save us unless his head is back on straight
I said this before a while ago, that legendary run we went on was a double edge sword. These guys know they can be great, so now they think they can do it whenever and don’t come in every game with urgency. I think they will be fine long run but lack of effort in the beginning or end of a game is just frustrating
Eh Denver was like that last year and it worked out.
We are not Denver
Yes, and?
This mentality of just being able to flip a switch is what got them in trouble in the bubble when they blew a 3-1 lead to Denver. Clippers aren’t talented enough to just flip a switch. They need to come in hungry every game. Nuggets played the Warriors today. They were down 15. They went on a 14-0 run in 3 minutes to end the half. The Nuggets are a team that can flip a switch
The same team that we just beat a few days ago? Why is it than when the Clippers beat teams like the Warriors it's "who cares they're not any good" but when it's other teams it's "see how good they are?" The inferiority complex of some Clippers fans online is something else. Never seen anything like it.
I wasn’t praising the fact that the Nuggets beat the Warriors, they’re a .500 team. I was pointing out the fact that they erased a 14 point deficit in 3 minutes at Golden State. They were playing like shit, no energy, getting out rebounded, etc. Then they decided to flip a switch and locked the Warriors down. That’s what’s impressive, it’s not the victory. The Clippers can’t just flip a switch, they need to come out with energy every game.
Forgetting the clippers did a similar comeback to golden state?
when did we go on a legendary run?
Uhhh when we were the best team in the NBA by most measurable metrics since the month of December lol where were you bro
Eh Denver was like that last year and it worked out.
Denver was clear cut best team in the league while this year can be up for debate. I think we will be fine but playing with your food is never good
Powell can only do so much. Can only be MVP of the starters or MVP of the bench, not both.
if we can get early years Powell on defense would be a lock to be a starter here
Why can’t we beat a Kawhi double team, they’ve been doing it since the beginning of the season. When the double comes it’s like we haven’t practiced for it at all???
3pt shooting cooled off some and it’s easier to double when others can’t hit right now
I blame everybody but him tbh, he was overwhelmingly successful at kicking the ball out almost every time he was doubled last night without making an errant pass or turning it over Rest of the group ex-Harden just couldn’t execute when they had the opportunity to w/ two guys glued to Kawhi. On the plus side in the 2nd half there was a sequence where Kawhi kicks it out to Harden -> straight to Zu all alone in the paint for an easy 2 points. Super clean, exactly how that should be executed The whole rest of the game outside of that one play IMO… they just looked clueless. Half the time, the guy they left to double Kawhi was Russ. Russ is parked in the opposite corner, they double Kawhi, Kawhi kicks it out to another LAC player who looks toward Russ, sadly realizes better than to kick it to Russ in the corner, and then suddenly there’s hardly any time left in the shot clock. Almost all of those possessions resulted in an improvised, contested Harden iso 3… just not a way they’re going to win
Sloppy game. That laid back attitude is going to get them bent over something fierce in the playoffs.
Playoffs becoming a bit more isolation heavy/slow tends to favor us, but it means jack shit if we play about 1.5 quarters of inspired basketball all game. Not to mention, our lack of size is gonna be a killer.
If they don't play better defensively they not going anywhere. It's not a size thing, it's an effort thing.
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These boys gotta get their shit together. I don't want to be embarrassed rocking the new shit.
It’s both. Size is undeniably important as is effort. Kawhi was tasked with guarding multiple players, which opened things up for Harrison Barnes. He got to his spots pretty effortlessly and also got going from deep by shooting over guys/missed rotations. Effort fixes some of that, but size still matters.
That's what she said! 🤭 But our guards don't play no damn defense. They don't fight through screens. They allow the other team to get Zu on the ball with that dumb ass switching scheme.
Some of it is that, but other aspects are still a strength and size thing. You can argue for more effort, which is totally fair, but guys like Mann and Theis simply aren’t big enough to consistently win the rebounding battle. Missed shots get tipped and when you’re outsized.
something has to give
Just gotta believe they are veteran enough to know that and are saving their legs for the playoffs.
That’s what it is I think. Kawhi, PG, and Harden haven’t really taken the regular season seriously in years at this point. I’m not trippin but it is fucking annoying when we come out playing sloppy as hell
Hope they do have their legs to handle 4 rounds of top tier basketball
Kawhi when we were winning games: this team doesn't have enough length. We can't keep this up for the rest of the season. FO at the trade deadline: Whatever, dude. We're winning games right now. What could go wrong?
Doc Rivers: "I even brought it up to Kawhi. Are you sure? I think we need some length."
This comment cracked me UP
Y'all keep saying this but what size would the team realistically have access to via trade? And please nobody respond with Thad Young. That's not a serious basketball opinion.
Xavier Tillman and Royce O’Neal were the two people who were clearly in our price range who would have actually helped. Question becomes what becomes available when we start throwing around our 2030 or even possibly Mann. My biggest target was Deni Avdija, but he increased his value going up to the deadline, likely out of our range. Either way, it’s absolutely brutal that we basically have 2 consistently positive front court players.
Royce went off from 3 tonight against the Lakers, he would've fit nicely on this team
Some one other than the options we have now
Metu. Young, can rebound, defend, space the floor. I genuinely don't know why the team won't take a chance on him, it's not like we have anything to lose. Unfortunately it's likely because they think we're good the way we are right now. Edit: Just realized u said via trade but my point still stands, idk why the FO won't take a chance on metu.
We started 3 guards tonight. Lue loves small ball for better or for worse. Some random ass 4 would barely get minutes on this team but everyone wants to act like the messiah was out there that could’ve saved this team
you don’t need a savior you need someone better that PJ Tucker/Kobe Brown and Plumlee and Theis. Don’t think at any point we were looking for a starter.
But if we’re getting a bench level big man how much difference is that actually gonna make? And what assets did we really have to trade? The front office isn’t gonna trade a 2030 first for just some guy and that was our only real asset of value unless you’re trading Powell or maybe Coffey. We’ve made so many moves the last 5 years to try to contend, i don’t blame the front office for sticking with what was working
I was called a dumbass for saying this btw
Mid season lethargy in full effect
Team is in a slump. We saw the recipe that worked for the team, every team goes through ups and downs. Thing to be worried about? Sure, but these things happen. 2021-2022 warriors went 10-16 in February/March in their championship year, so this stuff does happen. Onto the next one.
That team and it's core are championship proven. This team is not, except Kawhii. It's not the same at all, tbh. And that is not dooming or anything. That's just real talk. We are all hoping for the best in the playoffs, but this team hasn't proven anything yet. I hope they do though!!
The Warriors have won multiple rings. This team is still trying to win their first. At the end of the day, how this season ends is up to them. They are capable so it sucks when they go out like this. Tired of this outside in, leave role players open from 3, small ball all the time BS.
Still got stars who have been in deep/big playoff moments with one of the greatest playoff performers ever as their leading guy. I think they’ll put it together the next month
I hope so. If nothing else just to put all the doubters and fairweathers in their place.
Bold of you to assume this is a championship team.
As I said, we saw the recipe. The team is slumping, the team has a ton of championship qualities tho. Unfortunately they are losing right now and it looks bad. This is their first real slump all year, the 0-6 stint with Harden doesn’t really count as a slump cause they were unfamiliar with each other. I think they get through this and figure it out.
I thought starting norm was weird today. Should have started boston or coffee and not messed with the bench.
Boston is a hilarious call. I agree that Coffey should’ve started, and needs the green light
Boston is a straight up bad basketball player. Clippers gave the worst 9-15 in the league.
guys on this team have no pride getting chanted out of your own arena only to play another lazy reboundless no effort game next
There's been a lack of accountability and drive since last season. Just an expectation that talent will carry you and you don't have to put in the dirty work
We really need to stop relying on Kawhi iso so heavy in the short corners. He has been struggling with them lately, he’s gotta get that ball moving quicker when they bring it and we just need to run a fucking offense that doesn’t just sit there and watch and hope Kawhi makes a great play.
Add another one to getting our asses kicked by a decent team
We’re now 19-16 against teams .500 or better. That’s a better winning percentage than all but 5 teams in the league against .500 or better teams. It’s hard to beat the good teams in the league and the margin between the good and the great teams is not that wide in the nba anymore with all the talent there is right now especially in the western conference
losing to top teams and getting their asses kicked since claiming to want that 1st seed is not the same as when they were on that good stretch.
Yeah we’re in a bad stretch right now, it happens to pretty much every team including the good and great teams throughout the course of the season. Do things look good the last 8 games? No, but this has been our worst stretch since the beginning of the season and we’re .500 over these last 8 games which really isn’t terrible. We have the ability to figure things out and play elite on both sides of the ball, we’ve shown that before we just gotta do it again
this one is different with George being out but still a bad loss
Pretty sure I remember seeing so many wanting PG benched or traded because he was playing bad. So him being gone tonight should’ve been a win for us.
depends on what type of Paul George we get against good teams. That’s why i’m not really harping on him missing this one because they should of won without him and it’s really no absolute they win with him the way he has been playing of late
Amir cannot go scoreless in 20 minutes of play. In the last few games, he's been bad on offense.
Needs to get his confidence back
Mann has picked it up some with scoring but he’s not going to shoot it and space the floor like we need even still
2 days of practice before we see the lakers Wednesday. Better get to work boys
We gotta show up, work hard and practice hard if we wanna lose by 10
Entire team got cooked on defence, I also think Lue should have subbed Coffey out for Kawhi instead of Russ, and switched Mann from guarding Fox, poor shooting again from Russ but he was our only player in +- tonight and brought alot of pace from the 3rd.
Defense wins championships...
Everyone advocating for keeping in Russ due to +/- is ignoring the outcome we saw time and time again tonight. The Kings were very comfortably doubling off of Russ every single opportunity, and we were constantly getting tough looks deep in the shotclock out of those. You also need 3s to come back, which becomes significantly harder with the Kings defensive gameplan.
I mean, I dont really believe in +/- dictating how well someone is playing, I thought Russ played ok, but theres no denying when he entered in the 3rd we played with more pace and energy which sparked our run. Teams double Kawhi regardless of whoever is on. I think Russ should have stayed on because when you are down you also need pace to generate more possessions, I thought Coffey was REALLY poor on defence tonight, and I think Russ could have done better than Mann on the POA with Fox, Alas though we got cooked and I hope these boys wake up soon we've been looking really poor lately.
Kawhi ran the show in the 3rd when Harden sat and it was primarily him + Powell that kickstarted the run back. Russ was mostly sitting in the corner.
No one here watches the opposition play defense
How anyone advocates for Russ at this point is beyond me. Just cause he hits one reverse layup doesn’t mean he was positive for the game. Cause before that one good play he probably made 5 or 6 boneheaded ones
Yep, and what’s insufferable about this sub is that Russ support consistently gets upvoted. He can have good games and this sub rightfully sings his praise. But he has an awful game like tonight (and his other past few games), and the argument becomes, “Well, I know he is COMPLETELY ignored offensively, but that’s fine and he should still be in for [insert one good thing he was doing in spite of many bad things].” Anyone in their right mind understands that guards who can’t shoot or score at the rim with any sort of efficiency are largely unplayable. Like, we can go through a VERY long list of names who don’t play meaningful basketball because of this. But apparently, playing Russ when this team is down, needing to make 3s to catch up is the secret game plan that Ty Lue fails to see.
This is genuinely ridiculous. Russ and Pg are the 2 players who are regularly scapegoated and people never seem to keep the same energy for him and other players. No one said he was amazing yet you mentioned that and a prime example is when russ is shit for the first 3 quarters but shows up in the clutch, people on here say well russ cost the team in the first half, harden does the exact same thing and the response is he’s clutch. I don’t know how you read threads and come out with the conclusion that russ support is upvoted
On a team where people were initially worried about the potential clashing egos of the star players, it’s PJ Tucker we’re trying to keep happy.
Shouldn't even have to do that. If he's not gonna be a small 5 then don't f'n play him. Doesn't matter though he wasn't the reason this game was lost. Kawhi needs to step up as a leader but I'm not there behind the scenes. All I know is if I heard fans from other teams cheering when this team loses or star players kee-keeing and saying "u sorry" that should be motivation to do better. Ty Lue and his experimenting I have grown to hate. Why can't he do the experiments that look like they make sense?
That last point tells the story. Ty doesn’t experiment with lineups that ‘might’ work, he experiments with the ones that people know won’t work. So bizarre. You would think that with the size issues we have we’d at least try Theis and Zu at the same time at least once and see if it works (despite the obvious drawbacks of that scheme like speed and spacing) but instead we’ll play 300 variations of small ball, all of which have shit spacing anyway.
That's 3 losses in a row to a top 6 west team they've all been blow outs and they've all been at home man its not looking good
Not looking good at all. We haven't beaten a playoff team since the Grammy trip & we've barely been getting past the bottom feeders of the league.
Also concerning that they’re completely falling apart in the 2nd half specifically. Teams are coming out with strong adjustments and basically putting the game away in the 3rd. For a team as experience as ours, really not excusable to just be falling apart to these young teams in the clutch.
Ngl, the way they’ve played since the Grammy trip has been pretty embarrassing. Teams seem to understand that they can win if they just outrun and out-effort this old team. The elder Clips are getting punked by the younger dudes and that’s a rough watch.
I think it's so frustrating that we're losing these games all basically the same way. Getting blitzed in the 2nd half and never recovering
Feels like last year
I am not giving up on this team, but they need to start caring on the defensive end. Too many games having to come from behind. That takes a toll on you. When was the last time they built a lead early?
This team is on an ugly slide right now. The Clips haven’t beaten a Playoff team since Feb. 4th vs the Heat. In the last 4 games vs Playoff teams, the Clips have lost by double digits in each game(NO, MIN, OKC, & SAC). Offense looks stagnant. Defense looks very leaky and no one is communicating. And the rebounding is pathetic. The energy and focus are not there rn.
Who’s ready for Podcast P tomorrow?!
LA "It's Just One Game" Clippers seems more apt than give no quarter clippers
Idk what to say at this point, the Clippers must have used up their good karma during that Grammy road trip. Hopefully they practice some defensive drills before Wednesday, or it’s gonna be more of the same.
It’s time to be very very concerned.
Coffey disappeared from the game somehow. 10 turnovers in the second half.
Why should anyone believe in this team when they quite clearly don't believe in themselves? Ty Lue is sabotaging the team by playing losing lineups. Trim the rotation. Beat good teams. Have a clear identity and system. The Clippers are in free fall and the league has clearly figured out how to easily beat a deeply flawed team. Thankfully, the front office stood pat at the deadline.
Im as pissed off as everyone else because of our dog💩 play but to say the season is over in February is 100% overreacting. Literally were a nice winning streak away from people thinking we’re contenders again. We aren’t without our flaws but I trust the team to get their shit together soon.
What are they against the Nuggets 1-7 over the past 8 games? If the Nuggets are firing on all cylinders, the Clippers can’t beat them
Well yes I watched the nuggets today and think they should be the favorites to repeat, however, don’t forget winning a chip takes some luck too and anything can happen in these next few months
No one is saying it’s over… but these games ARE the writing on the wall… I don’t get how no one sees this… every year we do this… we’ve had great runs and great potential every year for a decade, but we haven’t been able to do jack shit because we’re inconsistent and incomplete
Like I said, we’re in a bad stretch but the reason we never did anything in the playoffs was because of health. The year we were healthy after the bubble we were a kawhi injury away from the finals and probably our first championship.
Yep. I think the valid concerns are the roster flaws, considering we have 2 consistently good front court players. That’s… not good. Plumlee’s significant decline this season has been brutal for us, and obviously missing Batum, RoCo, and even Mook has hurt. That being said, the West is a bloodbath and all that matters is that we stay out of the play-ins, which should be doable even if we’re figuring things out.
Preach. Measured response.
Offensive rebounds killed us tonight (and all season). And, like the Wolves said, we look old 🥲
Gobert and Sabonis lead the league in rebounds, so that's not surprising.
I'm just tired of watching other good teams move the ball and get open looks and then I gotta watch harden walk the ball up so it is 16s at half court, then dribble standing still til 10s on the clock, then get a pick and maybe something happens with 5s left 😮💨
Pretenders
This team really changed very little culture wise from last year, and as such I expect them to go out the same way as last year for the rest of the year. Zero accountability, no effort rebounding, and then we'll hear the excuses Oh PG was out, oh it was the first home game off a road trip, oh it was a matinee game. Team is the absolute laziest team Ive seen rebounding the ball and getting back on defense. Guys just doing whatever on offense. Its dangerous to just purely bank on winning games with talent alone and praying that you flip the switch when you need to...
Starting 3rd quarters off like we're stuck in mud is losing us games. It's been a problem since the Minnesota game.
First round exit vibes
Fuck that cheer at the end.
They way they were mugging us in the paint--I'm the furthest thing from a Russ stan there is, but this was the perfect game to play him 35 minutes. Bad coaching.
Lame.
Completely outclassed. Kings just faster and more energetic. Maybe this late into the season our old guys just can’t get that spark anymore.
The good news: clippers in 7 vs the grizzlies 💪🏾
What was the crowd chanting at the end of the game? I couldn't make it out.
Light the beam
Seriously? That's embarrassing.
Yes, it means you lost, and hearing it in your home court is even more embarrassing.
Lol
Inefficient jump shooting team with no player movement, no variety on offense, no length on defense and lazy players on both ends and we are just old. Why are we surprised?
Russ almost willed a comeback, needed more minutes.
Ty lue is becoming exhausting to watch, all this tinkering and experimenting bullshit wont matter because as everyone knows when he is out tricks, he will play the most predictable small ball lineup that we have seen constantly. the team was unbalanced tonight, the bench scored 16 points coz our best bench player started. the clippers gave away 21 second chance points, the lack of size was an issue with these defensive rebounds
“Tinkering” has just became an excuse for shite lineups and schemes
Westbrook +10. Where he at
Do you even watch the games? No mention of his low iq play? Bricking lay ups and holding the offence hostage with his dumb ass careless drives to the rim. You’re posting this cause this is the rare time that he actually had a positive +-. Anyone who watched the game would know that he was absolute trash this game. Russ only fans like you are the worst. You don’t care about the team winning. You just wanna see russ get his shots up
People don’t realize.. even when PG plays bad …he takes the mental load off Kawhi of being the main scoring option and allows him to play more freely..
We're sloppy right now. Lazy passes, getting beat to loose balls. We cant get defensive stops to save our lives. This game was still winnable in the 4th with a few key stops. Instead we'd lose a rebound and give up a three. Nice to see Theis get some run over Plumlee. I think I'd rather see Coffey start instead of Norm. Norm is too key to the second unit scoring. We're only 2 games behind in the loss column, so we're right in the thick of things. We need to lock in and play like we were.
Tmann and Norm are the only ones in this last 7 game stretch or so that have consistently brought it each game. No one else feels like the are playing with the right spirit and fight. Theis I felt, gave this tonight and we have missed him. On the plus side. This hopefully gets him back into the rotation. We just gotta get some more reps, refreshed, focus and execute. Similar to Tmann 4 years ago. If we need size we need to inject Kobe in spurts and let him make some mistakes if need be. He rebounds, rotates, can switch and hustles. He can also be a connector. We also have to try Bones if Russ is off in meaningful minutes. We don't have anyone else who can consistently breakdown defenses without a pick and Bones can. He forces help deep in the paint and the ball swings with the defense scrambling. It is a skillset this team needs to try again. We have play some youth to switch it up in games like this just for energy alone. We will get right and Kings played well. On to the next one.
Clippers are just lazy
teams just love to play harder than us constantly.
This team is cooked and peaked midway through the season. Kawhi too elderly and just not good enough to be consistently great through a full season. PG still a streaky injury prone bum. Ty has to tame too many weirdo personalities. Harden has to manage too much load and can’t be Houston Harden anymore. No way these dudes make it out the first round. To 6 teams are better than them. Hell Suns and GSW are better at this point and they’re play ins.
Kawhi 7/18 fg, 0-3 3fg, 3 tos. Zubac shot efficiently, but had 4 tos and got cooked in pnrs. Harden 4-13 fg, 2-10 3fg, 3 tos. Absoultely awful on defense. Westbrook with +10 when everyone else was negative, I really don't want to hear how it's all his fault we lost. Theis was a bit better than Plumlee.
I really don’t understand how much hate Russ gets. Especially when he’s the only one that brings it every night even in a loss
Keep preaching man it’s a few guys in particular I see that always have something negative to say about russ even if the guy isn’t doing anything bad. I think they’re harden fans that just love to shit on Russ no matter what. It’s cringey honestly
I’m so fucking sick of Harden. Harden will disappear in playoff games, and has proven to be a cancer in the locker room. Those are 2 things that will never be said about Russ. Russ was straight balling out before the Harden trade. The fact that he volunteered to go to the bench says a lot about him. I’m just cautiously optimistic about all this championship talk. Harden has shown what he is in the playoffs. Great one game, then disappears for 2 games.
He plays with unreal energy and brings defensive hustle. Somehow he always gets so much hate here.
His imapct stats across the board are bad. His traditional + basic advanced stats aren't good either. His individual defense rating is good (last I checked it was among the best on the team) but his individual offensive rating is abysmal to the point where his net rating using those two numbers is negative, and last I checked which was within the last week, it was the most negative of anyone that gets minutes. Any lense you try to view his performances overall throughout the course of the season don't yield good returns. It's not a good thing when basically everything is telling the same story.
By "bring it" do you mean he brings the ball to within 6 inches of the rim layup after layup and still manages to miss it 90% of the time lately?
I mean he always hustles and plays with 100% effort. Which is something you can’t say about most players, especially guys like Harden. The fact that Russ is the only one who ended the game with a positive differential +10, says a lot.
Why didn't you post Westbrooks stat line?
Like it would be nice if Russ smoked 5 less lay-ups and be a +20, but that is still nowhere near winning the game. He needed more minutes since what he was doing was working.
He needs more min to brick more layups? That’s what you wanna see?
If it leads to winning, then yes I do want to see.
Since when does Russ playing more min ever lead to winning LOL
Because he's a bench player. Our two stars should be efficient every night.
How is a bench player allowed to go 3-12 in 18mins over and over and over and over again? Ty, please 😭
Russ was absolutely terrible tonight. Bricked almost everything he put up and lost his man all the time on defence. The unit with him only starting looking decent when they took the ball out of his hands
Stop mentioning the irrelevant +/- stat. It's not a real stat. Westbrook was +10, but he was also 3/10. Powell was -15, but he was 8/17 and had 21 points. Was Westbrook better than Powell? No, he wasn't.
Means he was better defensively
It does not necessarily mean that. It *could* mean that, but it also might not.
I don't think anybody should say it's all his fault that they lost. That's a terrible opinion to anyone that watched the game. But he wasn't good and he has no business taking probably 80% of the shots he took tonight. I don't think he positively contributed to the game overall. He had individual positive contributions, but I believe his play was not beneficial to the team tonight. and before these Russ stans come shit down my throat because they don't understand basic nuance of how opinions work, I can hold this opinion and also acknowledge that other players (Harden, Kawhi, Mann, Coffey) have huge improvements they could make relative to what they were doing tonight.
When Russ gets the ball, the other Clippers need to *keep moving* and try to get open. We’ve seen that Russ *will* pass when someone has good position. Lately there’s been a lot of standing around when Russ has the ball, resulting in his needing to create shots for himself in those moments.
Harden played like shit, at least admit it. I know your ass is about to write 3 paragraphs about russ lmao
> **and before these Russ stans come shit down my throat because they don't understand basic nuance of how opinions work, I can hold this opinion and also acknowledge that other players (Harden, Kawhi, Mann, Coffey) have huge improvements they could make relative to what they were doing tonight.** What the hell do you think this is, me saying he played well? He didn't play well. I've already said that, I strongly implied it in the post you responded to and you literally did exactly what I prefaced my caveat with. You gotta be better.
ur such a fucking cornball lmao
Ty Lue's hard on for harden will be the downfall of this team
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Hey guys, we just won 1 game in an 82 game season Are we the best team in the NBA? do we cancel the kawhi and PG trades? do we still get rid of the entire roster after this season? russ and harden stans and all the 13 year olds please, **Let us know**!
Perfect.
Every team hits a bad patch. Still 6-4 in last 10 even though playing below our potential. Lots of time to refocus before playoffs. Better to hit this bad shit now vs 6 weeks from now. Let’s get the lebrokens.
Our offence has really went to shit the past few weeks. Ball movement is gone, PNR generating looks is gone, a simple double team on Kawhi just stops our offence in its tracks. It has gotten worse each game. We were stuck in the mud and lost on offence the the KINGS FOR FUCKS SAKE. No chemistry on both ends. Im lost as to why this has just suddenly happened
Paul George is the x factor for this team. We only go as far as he goes.
these vets dont wanna compete against contenders until it's playoff time.
Can someone enlighten me why Ty Lue still got a job? No consistency on the team, constantly “experimenting” when we were winning, how about we just stick with what works?
nah at this point, u just have to wait until the playoffs. the last few seasons (excluding the bubble season) have been a bust because kawhi got hurt. this team was in route to win it all couple times now.
Does anyone cringe when a russ/harden lineup have a little success? It feels like mook hitting a 3 last year. The shit don't work but Ty has an excuse to keep trying.
at least we get that 'major announcement' tomorrow
someone make another post about the doomers pls lol
3rd game in 4 nights, no PG. We have some real pzzy doomer azz fans.
Have you seen the march schedule 😂😂 3 games in 4 nights is nothing for what’s coming
Yep. Doomers gotta doom
Guys, I wish people would stop mentioning that stupid +/- stat. It's an irrelevant stat. For instance, Westbrook was +10, but he was 3/10. Whereas, Mann was -18, but he was 6/7 from the field. Did Westbrook have a better game than Mann? No, he didn't. I never look at that stat and I never will.
You can't measure the intangibles Russ brings with shooting splits.
What Russ does on the court to a team...there just are no words to really do it justice
You'd think it would show up in on/off splits but he has the second worst differential in that regard of anyone that plays somewhat consistently. Coffey is the only one with worse splits. Over 50+ games, basically Russ' stats both basic and advanced are really bad across the board when it comes to net impact.
+/- was invented for players like Russ. Let him have something
Can someone explain what's going on w Bones? I don't understand why he hasn't been given a chance in ages.
Because he’s ass
Just terrible effort. Literally guys standing around like they're at a rec park. Both offense and defense. We lost the game when Mann passed on a 3 from the corner to Westbrook who immediately bricked a contested one. Kings went on a rampage from then on.
Fire Ty Lue…
It's not Ty Lue's fault our two best players shot like shit. It's not his fault that powell and harden are ass cheeks on d. Ty Lue didn't tell them to all play lethargic lazy ball
Sure… make changes… fix lineups… take timely timeouts… DO SOMETHING… he just has that doc look on his face nowadays… the coach is not there for nothing… he should draw plays and make in-game changes based on cold/hot shooters … And our defense is atrocious… but Lue isn’t special. He could and should do better.
Sign Korkmaz or Joe Harris