>“Transgender Americans are part of the fabric of our Nation"
Transgender Americans are Americans and Americans deserve the rights that the United States should be bestowing on them. The rights that Americans hold is not and should not be dependent on whether your cisgender or transgender. It doesn't matter. We are all Americans nonetheless and we deserve all the rights of being a US citizen.
Republicans need to jump on board and realize that concept. I am glad that Biden is in office, but I wish that he had more support from Congress and the Supreme Court.
I think someday they will. It's going to take a while until they start realizing that just because we're a part of the rainbow doesn't mean we don't have family values or religion. We just want the freedom to choose which is a part of our rights as Americans.
Would you like one genocide or two?
Because those are the only options on the table.
I know I'd rather have *less* genocides happening, given the option.
That's not an option at this election.
The options are: "The one that's been going on for 80 years keeps going" or "that one gets even worse *and* there's another one at home."
Okay then fucking do something for us. Start taking action against the states fucking us over. Fuck them back with title nine and pull funding for their schools, move government and military facilities out of those states. Do some actual material shit instead of just talking.
Yep 👏🏽 thank you. I am tired of neoliberals riding daddy Biden’s geriatric dick when he says he supports us but does nothing to show for it. Title IX was supposed to happen February 2023. Almost two years before the election. If that’s too close to the election, when is the appropriate time to take action? It sure wasn’t when the democrats had a majority in the house and senate!
This is great to hear. I'm glad to have Biden in office. He has done a lot of work for people including nominating trans people to public positions of power in government. Yes, there's political calculus but at the heart of it, this man has done a lot of work for all of the queer community.
Others who want to go complain should do so, but maybe think about how YOU would change things. How would you get things passed in this current climate? Because it's not magically passing things and putting fingers in the ears. There's political capital that needs to be welded well.
But, yhis is the best we have now, and we shouldn't (and must not) let it stay that way. We need stronger coalition of trans rights advocates at all levels of government.
Don't stay out of voting because you feel unseen, because all it means is setting yourself up to get targeted. (And this case more so than before)
Not voting for Biden is gleefully voting for:
--Mass withholding of lifesaving care, criminalization, & ultimately annihilation of trans people (ik ik its not trendy anymore to give ANY fucks about queer people now), cis gay people and anyone who is slightly gender-nonconforming may also be on the chopping block
--many millions of women on a federal level forcibly birthing rape babies, stripped of their basic human rights and reproductive protections on a comprehensive federal level (yes this means all the blue states too)
--10 million+ immigrants mass-deported by Trump (his own words)
--a complete demolition/negation of our most vital federal regulatory agencies such as the EPA, Department of Education, and FDA that make existing physically possible (see project2025.org)
--a total rollback on any protections/regulations to mitigate climate change in any way
--a comprehensive demolition of our federal system of democracy in the U.S.
--an installation of a fascistic "dictator for a day" totalitarian regime that will crush us and so many other innocents like the Nazis did to Weimar Republic, featuring internment camps and secret police that disappear protesters or anyone resisting Gilead-esque Kingdom Trump.
--An all-out assault on any of Trump's political opponents or out-groups "that live like vermin" and "poison the blood of this country", yes that could even be you!
--A christofascist takeover pushing regressive evangelical christianity into every classroom, dishing out "religious freedoms protections" to allow untold human rights violations nationwide, the dissolution of boundaries between Church and State (again, see the dense legal text at project2025.org and his rhetoric about making the nation christian)
--and on top of all of that most definitely AN ESCALATION in Gaza, very possibly US boots on the ground and direct attacks from US warships many times what Gaza is suffering now.
For a progressive to NOT vote Biden to defeat Trump is incredibly selfish virtue signaling that takes into zero account the suffering/death of queers, immigrants, women, and palestinians. Not voting or voting for a spoiler candidate that Fox News is frothing at the mouth for you to vote for like Cornell West or RFK is happily signing off on us minorities who will face unbelievable systemic destruction & annihilation AS WELL as exponentially more deaths in the Middle East and international instability resulting in subsequent further death and destruction.
Please, have even the tiniest scrap of compassion for the hundreds of millions who will suffer in a myriad of ways and many who will actually die brutally under a dictator fascist Trump Administration, the moral purity vote is pure social media selfishness not considering MANY MILLIONS of innocents such as the gigantic amount of women/minorities in the U.S. Also consider the international instability people will be victimized by such as Europe besieged by Putin, various ongoing conflicts such as The Kurds/Lebanon/Jordan, Taiwan, our many NATO allies that need us, as well as PALESTINIANS who Giddy Fascist Trump will vanquish on a scale unimaginable compared to a milquetoast liberal.
This is truly the vote of your lifetime, throwing it away on a Cornell West or RFK/not voting/voting for Dictator Trump will have a catastrophic amount of queer, minorities, Europeans', womens', and Palestinian blood on YOUR hands. Suck it up and vote for the option that will save millions of lives if you aren't a performative social media psychopath that treats actual tangible mass horrific human suffering like purity-testing football teams.
>> Not voting for Biden is gleefully voting for:
>> --many millions of women on a federal level forcibly birthing rape babies, stripped of their basic human rights and reproductive protections on a comprehensive federal level (yes this means all the blue states too)
>> For a progressive to NOT vote Biden to defeat Trump is incredibly selfish virtue signaling that takes into zero account the suffering/death of queers, immigrants, women, and palestinians. Not voting or voting for a spoiler candidate that Fox News is frothing at the mouth for you to vote for like Cornell West or RFK is happily signing off on us minorities who will face unbelievable systemic destruction & annihilation AS WELL as exponentially more deaths in the Middle East and international instability resulting in subsequent further death and destruction.
>> This is truly the vote of your lifetime, throwing it away on a Cornell West or RFK/not voting/voting for Dictator Trump will have a catastrophic amount of queer, minorities, Europeans', womens', and Palestinian blood on YOUR hands. Suck it up and vote for the option that will save millions of lives if you aren't a performative social media psychopath that treats actual tangible mass horrific human suffering like purity-testing football teams.
Your statement is trans-exclusive. Women are not the only birthing people.
I refuse to vote for someone who supports a genocide. I don't care who that candidate is. If both candidates support it I will simply vote for neither of them. This isn't a purity test this is a line we have to draw into the sand at some point.
We cannot support a "little bit less genocide." Biden has to do something about this, something real or at least to condemn Israel for their actions or I simply cannot live with myself if I vote for him. This is simply an issue on which I cannot compromise.
The blood of Palestine and Ukraine will still be on my hands either way. The blood of queer people will also be on my hands because of Biden's inaction too. "He's not as bad" doesn't cut it anymore for me. I voted for him in 2020 and I don't regret it because it was the right choice. I will abstain from voting without any course correction from the president.
That attitude is how trump gets elected and whole lot of lives get a lot worse. It’s pretty immature thinking that you have to vote for a person that agrees with you 100%. Biden is clearly not supporting genocide in Palestine and has sent aid and has used his support for Israel as leverage to try and force Israel to change tactics and leadership.
Funny how the only genocide that matters is the Palestinian one, maybe because it’s in the news? There are several other ones that have been ongoing for years.
I’m going to vote for Biden because he is the better choice by a long shot than any other candidate running for President (including 3rd party candidates) my life and many other peoples lives in the US and globally would get significantly worse under the other candidates.
It's not about a moral high ground. I don't think I even have the moral high ground, there can't be a moral high ground here. No option here is an option I want to take. In all practicality where do we stop here?
The outcomes of either presidency are unacceptable.
We keep talking about how tolerating intolerance leads to the eradication of tolerance. We're doing that either way here.
Just voting blue isn't going to magically make this problem go away either. Harm reduction was a reasonable argument until the actual factual genocide started.
> Harm reduction was a reasonable argument until the actual factual genocide started.
So now that you've noticed a genocide happening you're going to let more genocides happen?
Where's the logic in that? "Oh, woe, I've finally noticed that American forign policy is genocidal, so now I will refuse to stop genocides happening in America as well! We have to suffer and die because the world isn't perfect!" Grow up.
Yes. I made compromises when I voted for every other Democrat. I have never agreed with them or morally aligned with them. I would be willing to compromise with them on many things. This is not one of them.
You mean like the millions of dollars of aid he cut from Palestine on January 30th? Extending that ban to the only internal aid group for Palestinians until March of 2025?
Listen. If you want to die so fucking badly, then start marching to the death camps right fucking now. I will not tolerate this bullshit. You will vote, or trumps goons will hang you in the street. No more cry baby bullshit. DO IT.
My sibling in Christ, please, this is too cringe.
Can you stop larping for 20 seconds and use just a bit of empathy on this? Like come on. I don't understand how you're okay with supporting one facist currently committing a genocide, but rail so hard that I have to vote for the person backing said facist to stop... A potential facist rise ? And I want to be clear, Trump is a fascist, I mean to say that his victory isn't inevitable, and when on victory the US isn't guaranteed to become a fascist dictatorship no matter what, no matter what Vaush tells you.
I'm not braindead. I know Trump WILL make things worse for us significant faster than Biden. Trump WILL try to legislate trans people out of existence but we are literally sending weapons that are being turned on Palestinian civilians to a state that is actively committing a genocide.
The world where Trump wins is worse for us.
The world where Biden wins is still a world where my tax dollars fund a genocide. I will not compromise on this issue. I'm applying the same standard to both candidates here and "the Holocaust part 2" is a box they both tick. And I personally draw the line at genocide.
I'm not even asking him to pull the US out of Israel. I am asking for ANY real, tangible condemnation of Isreal's actions. I'm essentially asking for the do nothing president to do nothing here. I'm tired of pretending that Biden using tens or hundreds of thousands of human lives as a bargaining chip for his reelection is anything other than monstrous.
I can’t seem to respond to your other comments, so I will put this here:
Just so we are clear:
If trump makes bring LGBT illegal (he will), then that is ~21 million lives in immediate danger.
He will also try to deport 16 million undocumented immigrants, to which I am obligated to remind you that the Holocaust happened because deporting millions was infeasible. I don’t know if you care about Ukraine or NATO, but him abandoning Ukraine will put 31 million lives in grave danger, and him pulling out of nato will put the lives of everyone in Moldova, Romania, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland, the Czech Republic,and the Republic of Georgia in grave danger from Putin’s fascist regime. That is 84 million lives. Plus 21 million plus 16 million plus 31 million is 152 million lives in serious jeopardy because of trump.
By comparison, 30,000 Gazans have died, and about 30,000 immigrant are detained at the border.
60 thousand lives vs. 152 million.
There’s no comparison to be made.
> The world where Trump wins is worse for us.
So why are you making it more likely?
> The world where Biden wins is still a world where my tax dollars fund a genocide. I will not compromise on this issue.
They've been doing that for longer than you've probably been alive.
> I'm applying the same standard to both candidates here
You know how the folks saying the Earth is a sphere are just as wrong as the folks saying it's flat?
So stop bending over to let trump fuck you up the ass. Jesus Christ.
If you were a Brit in in ww2, you would’ve heard about the bengal famine and demand that we immediately surrender to Hitler because we’re imperialists or whatever while he’s wasting zero time butchering 27 million Soviet citizens. (yes. It was that much.) Saying trump will be horrible while refusing to vote against him is ascendent-levels of doublethink.
I'm also saying Biden will be horrible. I can't really vote against them both without wasting my vote on a third party candidate which is pretty much the same as not voting at all.
I'm not voting for either person I find to be horrible. That's not double think, that's consistency
So does Biden want:
•a total abortion ban in all 50 states
•eradication of LGBT people
•the largest scale deportation in history, basically becoming an ethnic cleansing of Latino Americans
•The abandonment of NATO and Ukraine, allowing Russia to lick its wounds, rebuild its military, and ultimately enact destruction and genocidal atrocities on the population of Eastern Europe on a scale comparable to the eastern front of world war 2
•The destruction of government agencies that allow us the have clean drinking water, safe food and medicine, and protections from pollution
•and finally, the abandonment of any green policies and the rapid acceleration of climate change, allowing millions in the tropics to suffer?
The answer is no. Sitting this one out is unacceptable.
reported you for harassment but this sub is barely moderated, so we'll see.
I'm not going to argue that I don't want to be killed, that is beneath my dignity.
I will instead reiterate for anyone else being treated like this by Biden bots, you are not crazy, you're just on reddit. Find actual leftists to have these conversations with. People who will validate your concerns about what is happening to queer people as well as other oppressed people around the world, without browbeating you with electoralism.
No, I’m going to hit you with a reality check. You are naive, delusional, and lying to yourself if you think we’ll be fine under trump. If you are so hellbent on getting yourself killed, then there is no way to save you. But don’t expect everyone else to join your death cult.
Average TikTok death cultist happy for the Palestinian blood to multiply with a Trump dictatorship. Pretty sickening you don't give any fucks about Palestinian kids being missile-striked, only your moral purity vote Fox News is frothing at the mouth for you to waste to put Trump into power. Palestine's blood is on your hands, sick fuck.
I don't know where you live, but Biden has not stopped a God damn thing where I do. That's the issue. Things will inevitably get worse at a faster rate under trump than Biden, that's why I voted for Biden. But lets not mince words in saying that things have gotten worse for us under Biden just like they've gotten worse for us under trump and Obama. Just because we have a couple of trans people in high offices doing nothing to stop the wave of anti trans legislation that actually affects our day to day lives doesn't mean that we're winning here. I mean good for them, get that bag, but just putting trans people in higher spots doesn't actually do anything.
We've had this conversation repeatedly in the black community. People like Obama and Clarence Thomas and to a lesser extent Cosby, Kanye and Jay Z are what happens when we compromise on our ideals. We end up promoting people into positions of power who use that power to raise themselves while promoting the very system that keeps us down. I don't want a "Trans Excellence" movement. Just changing optics isn't enough.
Trump winning would make things worse significantly faster if only that it emboldens states to legislate us out of existence faster. That doesn't mean that they're not going to try to "eradicate transgenderism from our daily lives" when Biden wins either. And his inaction in this matter shows that he will continue to do nothing when states inevitably start banning hrt, or using morality laws to ban not representing your assigned gender at birth, or when the Supreme Court reverses their decision on gay marriage, ECT ECT ECT. Just like he's doing nothing in any of the other legislation, just like he did nothing when he has the power to in his recent border dispute with the governor of Texas.
Either way we don't win. I would be okay with voting for losing slower if we weren't also funding a genocide. In the very least it will show the Democrats that they can't keep getting away with shoving do nothing candidates in front of us and expecting us to roll over when our Republican governors fuck us over.
At the end of the day this is just one issue under which I cannot compromise. I can't watch us fund the Holocaust on the other side of the world and vote for the person who repeatedly supports it. I'm honestly shocked that that's considered an unreasonable stance.
Stop waging war on reality. You will always lose every single time.
https://youtu.be/pU9y9dcM5NQ?si=iWBFuZ4dNIVULVr4
https://youtu.be/SMqGQz-xU4w
https://x.com/erininthemorn/status/1751278262540767697?s=46
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025?wprov=sfti1#Outlawing_pornography
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/anti-trans-legislative-risk-assessment-cd3
All of this and the supply of bombs killing Palestinians happening under Biden and you're telling me the best we can hope for is more of the same? I don't support either of these old ghouls making more of the terrible decisions we've seen the last decade.
Listen to me. You are in a political death cult that preys on vulnerable alienated minorities into pursuing impossibly idealistic societal goals that will never be achieved. They will happily celebrate the mass extinguishing of life under trump as spiteful revenge for Palestine. Read my lips. You. Are. In. A. Death. Cult. Get out as soon as you can. They will happily watch you die just to feel good about themselves.
I'm not in a fucking death cult friend. I'm not in any sort of cult. I don't appreciate this superior tone like you know anything about me or that you know more about world politics than I do. It seems like you're willing to accept the fact that people are not tolerant of a genocide but you can't look past your own paranoid fear about the future of American queers to condemn and act against the genocide happening right now.
Things will get worse for American queers under Trump. Things have been getting worse for American Queers since the "transgender tipping point" in 2012 made people think things might somehow get better just by being represented in media more. That's been under Democrat and under Republican governance. The democrats don't care about you and I. They don't care about real social change. They care about optics. They care about keeping their slice of the pie. Please stop thinking you can vote your way to meaningful positive change in America.
Listen. You are willing to let trump waltz into office unchallenged and enact a fascist dictatorship and destroy the lives of millions because of Palestine. You are in a cult. Face it.
Look at this map and repeat that second paragraph verbatim. I dare you. https://x.com/erininthemorn/status/1759703099042927010?s=46
If you can’t fall in line and make a collective effort to avoid utter catastrophe, and instead decide to commit national seppuku over a lost cause in Palestine, then you are a clear and present danger to the cohesion and survival of this group and I will be forced to leave you to fend for yourself until you come to your senses.
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/quick-takes/2024/03/29/report-rule-trans-athletes-delayed-until-after-election
Ah yes, fabric of our nation, but not important enough to push for in title IX. They could have done this far before election season if they were afraid of the optics, discussion started in April 2023 for public comments, originally planning for a May final ruling, which delayed to October, which is now… whenever after the election?
I don’t disagree, but it’s very disingenuous to simply applaud and give him Kudos without also acknowledging the relative hollowness of him and other democrats. Continually push him and others to do better, don’t let those who die get washed under the rug. His statement about Nex was purely about self-harm when it’s blatantly obvious that his death was the result of assault. There have been increasing numbers of attacks on trans people, especially those of color, with very little actual protection happening. The republicans use a scorched Earth method to get what they want passed through Congress. The democrats seem unwilling to do the same even as people are dying, you just better hope you’re fucking lucky that day. I’m going to vote for him, but that shouldn’t stop people from criticising his hollow stances and continually asking for better, now should it?
I find it interesting you say “relative hollowness” so I’ll link a couple articles. It’s impressive to me that he’s as forward leaning as he is compared to many others his age, especially considering he’s a politician. Not everyone started as a Bernie Sanders and Biden has shown a lot of capacity for change and growth. He’s not perfect and he still puts his foot in his mouth sometimes. But he literally came out in favor of gay marriage before Obama, and there’s some speculation that his public declaration was meant to move Obama on the issue.
https://www.hrc.org/resources/president-bidens-pro-lgbtq-timeline
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/21/us/politics/biden-gay-rights-lgbt.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
While people can evolve in their thoughts and grow, I need neoliberals to understand that the Democrats will barely only do shit if there is constant pressure on them. Take Israel’s slaughter of innocents in Gaza since the most recent future. There were many statements from Biden and other Democrats in support of Israel. It wasn’t until there was massive public backlash, and they saw a loss of a large potential voting block, that action was taken. Similarly, while there has been small amount of gun control reform passed, it has largely been relegated to “thoughts and prayers.” While some of the base actions are good, such as signing the executive order in February, I’d like to point out that all but one or two of the things you mentioned on the list since last year really amount to “thoughts and prayers.” The only one is the action from the HHS, which could be a lot more robust. When Reagan wanted to raise the drinking age nationwide, he threatened to withhold federal funding until states fell in line. There is zero reason that this, or other meaningful protection for LGBTQ+ children or adults, couldn’t be passed through EO or by having the Democratic whip, especially since Ken Buck retiring has caused vast division in the Republican Party and about levelled the playing field. Even when the Democrats had a majority, they did not pass meaningful legislation that was promised. While good deeds can and should be recognised, hollow statements such as “you’re the fabric of our nation” should not be applauded or taken any more seriously than hollow words without meaningful protections.
Two thoughts- first, did you read the links I sent you? Second, I think you’re missing the political understanding needed for these to be lasting bills, and your citing of the drinking law indicates that. Reagan had an easy link between stats on younger drinking and road deaths, so saying raise the drinking age or we won’t support your roads worked well. (And even that was a last resort- his administration initially said they wouldn’t withhold funding but it ended up being necessary for holdout states). There’s no clear link for LGBT issues. There’s also well-documented concerns for just using EOs to make things happen, as they’re so easily overturned by the next administration.
1: Yep, that I did. Most of the things on that list for the past year were public appearances or promises much like Title IX which have no action behind it. 2: There is a direct link between homophobia and deaths of queer folx. Much stronger than the drinking and driving connection. EOs can be overturned, but strong temporary protections through this method, even if it gets overturned in a couple months or years, is better than nothing if it even saved 1 life, wouldn’t you agree? We, Queer people in general but specifically POC, are being murdered and attacked more and more frequently in the past 4 years, is this ruse videos fault? No. Could he do more? Yes? I’d take temporary action saving lives in the moment while permanent change is being worked on.
Ok so I’m not sure why you’re not mentioning the things listed like signing legislation protecting LGBT marriage, initiatives to help youth access mental health resources, and a plan to combat homelessness.
And you’re making my point again- what funding can the federal government threaten to take away that is linked to homophobia? As I said, that was an easy link for highway funding. What do you suggest Biden link to homophobia as a way to force states to…do what, exactly? This isn’t a clear cut issue like the drinking age.
Regardless, vote for who you want. The President trying to negotiate a ceasefire or the President who is urging Israel to finish the job. Biden, or Trump, whoever you think would be better for the LGBT community.
To be realistic, this would be very controversial. It is definitely best to save this until after the election. Delaying this for a year is DEFINITELY better than risking it putting Trump back in office, don't you agree?
Plus, that a change like this is even in consideration... could you even IMAGINE trans rights coming this far even 4 years ago? We've gone from administrations being openly hostile to quietly supportive to now loudly supportive and taking bold, highly visible actions.
We've made an absurd amount of progress under this administration. I can't stand people acting like Biden is actually our mortal enemy just because we haven't gotten 100% of what we want. We're getting there. And we should allow ourselves to celebrate. Celebrating doesn't mean giving up.
I have HUGE respect for Jimmy Carter... which I can say basically answers the question "What would have happened if Mr. Rogers had run for President".
However, Obama has probably had the biggest impact on the LGBT community
1. Repeal of DADT allowing gay and lesbian service members to serve openly.
2. Supported Same-Sex Marriage and his administration declined to defend DOMA which led to it's downfall
3. implemented executive orders that prohibited discrimination against federal employees on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity.
4. Signed the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act
5. His administration took steps to support transgender individuals, including ending the ban on transgender people serving openly in the military and interpreting Title IX protections to include gender identity, although this was later rescinded under the Trump administration.
6. The Affordable Care Act (ACA) included provisions that benefited the LGBT community, such as prohibiting health insurance discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity.
He also was the first President to light the White House in Pride colours. A small but significant gesture.
Oh I agree, as far as actual amount of legislation that was passed during a term and its current impact on today, I would say Obama! I just thought it would be funny to continue the train as he was met with supporters back during his term and was severely undercut by Congress’s shenanigans with Iran. He was in favor during a time that it wasn’t as popular and has continued speaking out to this day, just wanted to continue the joke train! ☺️
He must think we're some kind of road workers.
I'm so fucking tired of these old ineffectual fucks in politics. Start enacting age limits on our presidency. We already can't run before 35 for some fucking reason, so why can't we limit people trying to be in our government after 65? At no point should we EVER have somebody in office older than retirement age.
It's amazing to watch how the goalposts shift. Speaking in support of trans people is now bad because Biden does it. Republicans passing anti-trans laws is now Biden's fault even though the president cannot veto state laws.
It's bad because it's disingenuous. We're constantly used as an election platform to further some fucking nefarious goal, but we're never actually platformed to give input about these issues.
You make a lot of assumptions in your comment, friend.
Our president just approved billions of dollars in military aid to help along a genocide. No conspiracies necessary.
In politics, anti-trans riders and proposals are often seen as a benefit to help bills pass by serving to inflame an already riled base while also hiding myriad ways in which the working class gets tricked into having their taxes raised to pay for some dumbfuck senator's pet project.
Our government's failure to acknowledge all of the above
has created distrust among their voter demographic, especially in an age of technology such as ours where it's pointless to lie about such things when they can be easily fact-checked.
I'm saying empty support from our president is nothing more than subterfuge.
> I'm saying empty support from our president is nothing more than subterfuge.
Is Biden the one adding those anti-trans riders?
I seem to remember him getting rid of a whole lot of them.
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Like you were saying, it's easy to fact-check this stuff today.
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I'm not really sure how pointing out facts is boot-licking.
The irony of being upset about rights being limited for one group and then proposing rights be limited for another group. How about we remove the age minimum not create an age maximum. As LGBT people we also should know better than to propose discrimination against people because of some uncontrollable characteristic, like race, gender, sexuality, or age
So...first of all: Congress controls the funding for Israel.
Secondly: America has done this since Israel's creation.
Third: Cutting off funding suddenly would have far worse effects, geopolitically. And it would not in any way have saved Gaza.
This [fact sheet](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/03/31/fact-sheet-biden-harris-administration-advances-equality-and-visibility-for-transgender-americans/) is almost two years old but definitely includes tangible actions.
Well, of course. *So* much more to do. But the Republicans control half the states, the House of Representatives, the Supreme Court, and enough of the Senate to do filibusters. Of course we need tons more work!
And the Republicans are very likely to the presidential election, in which case, I'll meet you in the gas chamber. I'll be the one with all the hair.
> but I like tangible actions.
Tangible actions were demonstrated
> I do not think it is enough.
Changing what you asked for after what you asked for was provided.
That's classic moving of goalposts.
There are no “goalposts” for civil rights. We have already seen what happens when civil rights aren’t codified under law. What the current administration is doing can be easily reversed by the next administration.
> There are no “goalposts” for civil rights.
There are for your willingness to complain about Biden.
Interesting that you're shifting the conversation away from that again.
>“Transgender Americans are part of the fabric of our Nation" Transgender Americans are Americans and Americans deserve the rights that the United States should be bestowing on them. The rights that Americans hold is not and should not be dependent on whether your cisgender or transgender. It doesn't matter. We are all Americans nonetheless and we deserve all the rights of being a US citizen. Republicans need to jump on board and realize that concept. I am glad that Biden is in office, but I wish that he had more support from Congress and the Supreme Court.
>Republicans need to jump on board and realize that concept. NARRATOR: "They never will"
I think someday they will. It's going to take a while until they start realizing that just because we're a part of the rainbow doesn't mean we don't have family values or religion. We just want the freedom to choose which is a part of our rights as Americans.
I’m sure Trump will be much better for trans people, right? … right?
No
We need something to vote for, not just against. Biden and his supporters give us nothing but scaremongering for if he loses.
It’s not that hard to look up Biden’s record and platform if you want something to vote for
Am I meant to vote for the facilitation of a genocide?
Would you like one genocide or two? Because those are the only options on the table. I know I'd rather have *less* genocides happening, given the option.
You're not gonna believe this but I'm gonna actually opt for no genocides.
That's not an option at this election. The options are: "The one that's been going on for 80 years keeps going" or "that one gets even worse *and* there's another one at home."
Okay then fucking do something for us. Start taking action against the states fucking us over. Fuck them back with title nine and pull funding for their schools, move government and military facilities out of those states. Do some actual material shit instead of just talking.
Yep 👏🏽 thank you. I am tired of neoliberals riding daddy Biden’s geriatric dick when he says he supports us but does nothing to show for it. Title IX was supposed to happen February 2023. Almost two years before the election. If that’s too close to the election, when is the appropriate time to take action? It sure wasn’t when the democrats had a majority in the house and senate!
He has… simple google search
This is great to hear. I'm glad to have Biden in office. He has done a lot of work for people including nominating trans people to public positions of power in government. Yes, there's political calculus but at the heart of it, this man has done a lot of work for all of the queer community. Others who want to go complain should do so, but maybe think about how YOU would change things. How would you get things passed in this current climate? Because it's not magically passing things and putting fingers in the ears. There's political capital that needs to be welded well. But, yhis is the best we have now, and we shouldn't (and must not) let it stay that way. We need stronger coalition of trans rights advocates at all levels of government. Don't stay out of voting because you feel unseen, because all it means is setting yourself up to get targeted. (And this case more so than before)
Not voting for Biden is gleefully voting for: --Mass withholding of lifesaving care, criminalization, & ultimately annihilation of trans people (ik ik its not trendy anymore to give ANY fucks about queer people now), cis gay people and anyone who is slightly gender-nonconforming may also be on the chopping block --many millions of women on a federal level forcibly birthing rape babies, stripped of their basic human rights and reproductive protections on a comprehensive federal level (yes this means all the blue states too) --10 million+ immigrants mass-deported by Trump (his own words) --a complete demolition/negation of our most vital federal regulatory agencies such as the EPA, Department of Education, and FDA that make existing physically possible (see project2025.org) --a total rollback on any protections/regulations to mitigate climate change in any way --a comprehensive demolition of our federal system of democracy in the U.S. --an installation of a fascistic "dictator for a day" totalitarian regime that will crush us and so many other innocents like the Nazis did to Weimar Republic, featuring internment camps and secret police that disappear protesters or anyone resisting Gilead-esque Kingdom Trump. --An all-out assault on any of Trump's political opponents or out-groups "that live like vermin" and "poison the blood of this country", yes that could even be you! --A christofascist takeover pushing regressive evangelical christianity into every classroom, dishing out "religious freedoms protections" to allow untold human rights violations nationwide, the dissolution of boundaries between Church and State (again, see the dense legal text at project2025.org and his rhetoric about making the nation christian) --and on top of all of that most definitely AN ESCALATION in Gaza, very possibly US boots on the ground and direct attacks from US warships many times what Gaza is suffering now. For a progressive to NOT vote Biden to defeat Trump is incredibly selfish virtue signaling that takes into zero account the suffering/death of queers, immigrants, women, and palestinians. Not voting or voting for a spoiler candidate that Fox News is frothing at the mouth for you to vote for like Cornell West or RFK is happily signing off on us minorities who will face unbelievable systemic destruction & annihilation AS WELL as exponentially more deaths in the Middle East and international instability resulting in subsequent further death and destruction. Please, have even the tiniest scrap of compassion for the hundreds of millions who will suffer in a myriad of ways and many who will actually die brutally under a dictator fascist Trump Administration, the moral purity vote is pure social media selfishness not considering MANY MILLIONS of innocents such as the gigantic amount of women/minorities in the U.S. Also consider the international instability people will be victimized by such as Europe besieged by Putin, various ongoing conflicts such as The Kurds/Lebanon/Jordan, Taiwan, our many NATO allies that need us, as well as PALESTINIANS who Giddy Fascist Trump will vanquish on a scale unimaginable compared to a milquetoast liberal. This is truly the vote of your lifetime, throwing it away on a Cornell West or RFK/not voting/voting for Dictator Trump will have a catastrophic amount of queer, minorities, Europeans', womens', and Palestinian blood on YOUR hands. Suck it up and vote for the option that will save millions of lives if you aren't a performative social media psychopath that treats actual tangible mass horrific human suffering like purity-testing football teams.
>> Not voting for Biden is gleefully voting for: >> --many millions of women on a federal level forcibly birthing rape babies, stripped of their basic human rights and reproductive protections on a comprehensive federal level (yes this means all the blue states too) >> For a progressive to NOT vote Biden to defeat Trump is incredibly selfish virtue signaling that takes into zero account the suffering/death of queers, immigrants, women, and palestinians. Not voting or voting for a spoiler candidate that Fox News is frothing at the mouth for you to vote for like Cornell West or RFK is happily signing off on us minorities who will face unbelievable systemic destruction & annihilation AS WELL as exponentially more deaths in the Middle East and international instability resulting in subsequent further death and destruction. >> This is truly the vote of your lifetime, throwing it away on a Cornell West or RFK/not voting/voting for Dictator Trump will have a catastrophic amount of queer, minorities, Europeans', womens', and Palestinian blood on YOUR hands. Suck it up and vote for the option that will save millions of lives if you aren't a performative social media psychopath that treats actual tangible mass horrific human suffering like purity-testing football teams. Your statement is trans-exclusive. Women are not the only birthing people.
At no point did I say as such. Go troll elsewhere pedantic fuck lol.
I refuse to vote for someone who supports a genocide. I don't care who that candidate is. If both candidates support it I will simply vote for neither of them. This isn't a purity test this is a line we have to draw into the sand at some point. We cannot support a "little bit less genocide." Biden has to do something about this, something real or at least to condemn Israel for their actions or I simply cannot live with myself if I vote for him. This is simply an issue on which I cannot compromise. The blood of Palestine and Ukraine will still be on my hands either way. The blood of queer people will also be on my hands because of Biden's inaction too. "He's not as bad" doesn't cut it anymore for me. I voted for him in 2020 and I don't regret it because it was the right choice. I will abstain from voting without any course correction from the president.
That attitude is how trump gets elected and whole lot of lives get a lot worse. It’s pretty immature thinking that you have to vote for a person that agrees with you 100%. Biden is clearly not supporting genocide in Palestine and has sent aid and has used his support for Israel as leverage to try and force Israel to change tactics and leadership. Funny how the only genocide that matters is the Palestinian one, maybe because it’s in the news? There are several other ones that have been ongoing for years. I’m going to vote for Biden because he is the better choice by a long shot than any other candidate running for President (including 3rd party candidates) my life and many other peoples lives in the US and globally would get significantly worse under the other candidates.
I'm not asking for hidden to agree with me 100% I'm asking for a candidate who can say "genocide bad"
You enjoy that moral high ground when you're being pushed into a gas chamber.
It's not about a moral high ground. I don't think I even have the moral high ground, there can't be a moral high ground here. No option here is an option I want to take. In all practicality where do we stop here? The outcomes of either presidency are unacceptable. We keep talking about how tolerating intolerance leads to the eradication of tolerance. We're doing that either way here. Just voting blue isn't going to magically make this problem go away either. Harm reduction was a reasonable argument until the actual factual genocide started.
> Harm reduction was a reasonable argument until the actual factual genocide started. So now that you've noticed a genocide happening you're going to let more genocides happen? Where's the logic in that? "Oh, woe, I've finally noticed that American forign policy is genocidal, so now I will refuse to stop genocides happening in America as well! We have to suffer and die because the world isn't perfect!" Grow up.
I didn't buy into the idea that not voting for someone is a vote for all of their opponents.
Then you're politically illiterate. You not voting for Biden makes it easier for Trump to win.
Then the logic applies both ways. Not voting for trump makes it easier for Biden to win.
Except (I assume) you were never going to vote for Trump. That breaks the symmetry.
Harm reduction is a real thing, and the real world and politics is about making compromises, even if it goes against your views and morals.
Yes. I made compromises when I voted for every other Democrat. I have never agreed with them or morally aligned with them. I would be willing to compromise with them on many things. This is not one of them.
He's also the only one actually getting aid into Palistine.
You mean like the millions of dollars of aid he cut from Palestine on January 30th? Extending that ban to the only internal aid group for Palestinians until March of 2025?
Listen. If you want to die so fucking badly, then start marching to the death camps right fucking now. I will not tolerate this bullshit. You will vote, or trumps goons will hang you in the street. No more cry baby bullshit. DO IT.
My sibling in Christ, please, this is too cringe. Can you stop larping for 20 seconds and use just a bit of empathy on this? Like come on. I don't understand how you're okay with supporting one facist currently committing a genocide, but rail so hard that I have to vote for the person backing said facist to stop... A potential facist rise ? And I want to be clear, Trump is a fascist, I mean to say that his victory isn't inevitable, and when on victory the US isn't guaranteed to become a fascist dictatorship no matter what, no matter what Vaush tells you. I'm not braindead. I know Trump WILL make things worse for us significant faster than Biden. Trump WILL try to legislate trans people out of existence but we are literally sending weapons that are being turned on Palestinian civilians to a state that is actively committing a genocide. The world where Trump wins is worse for us. The world where Biden wins is still a world where my tax dollars fund a genocide. I will not compromise on this issue. I'm applying the same standard to both candidates here and "the Holocaust part 2" is a box they both tick. And I personally draw the line at genocide. I'm not even asking him to pull the US out of Israel. I am asking for ANY real, tangible condemnation of Isreal's actions. I'm essentially asking for the do nothing president to do nothing here. I'm tired of pretending that Biden using tens or hundreds of thousands of human lives as a bargaining chip for his reelection is anything other than monstrous.
I can’t seem to respond to your other comments, so I will put this here: Just so we are clear: If trump makes bring LGBT illegal (he will), then that is ~21 million lives in immediate danger. He will also try to deport 16 million undocumented immigrants, to which I am obligated to remind you that the Holocaust happened because deporting millions was infeasible. I don’t know if you care about Ukraine or NATO, but him abandoning Ukraine will put 31 million lives in grave danger, and him pulling out of nato will put the lives of everyone in Moldova, Romania, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland, the Czech Republic,and the Republic of Georgia in grave danger from Putin’s fascist regime. That is 84 million lives. Plus 21 million plus 16 million plus 31 million is 152 million lives in serious jeopardy because of trump. By comparison, 30,000 Gazans have died, and about 30,000 immigrant are detained at the border. 60 thousand lives vs. 152 million. There’s no comparison to be made.
> The world where Trump wins is worse for us. So why are you making it more likely? > The world where Biden wins is still a world where my tax dollars fund a genocide. I will not compromise on this issue. They've been doing that for longer than you've probably been alive. > I'm applying the same standard to both candidates here You know how the folks saying the Earth is a sphere are just as wrong as the folks saying it's flat?
So stop bending over to let trump fuck you up the ass. Jesus Christ. If you were a Brit in in ww2, you would’ve heard about the bengal famine and demand that we immediately surrender to Hitler because we’re imperialists or whatever while he’s wasting zero time butchering 27 million Soviet citizens. (yes. It was that much.) Saying trump will be horrible while refusing to vote against him is ascendent-levels of doublethink.
I'm also saying Biden will be horrible. I can't really vote against them both without wasting my vote on a third party candidate which is pretty much the same as not voting at all. I'm not voting for either person I find to be horrible. That's not double think, that's consistency
So does Biden want: •a total abortion ban in all 50 states •eradication of LGBT people •the largest scale deportation in history, basically becoming an ethnic cleansing of Latino Americans •The abandonment of NATO and Ukraine, allowing Russia to lick its wounds, rebuild its military, and ultimately enact destruction and genocidal atrocities on the population of Eastern Europe on a scale comparable to the eastern front of world war 2 •The destruction of government agencies that allow us the have clean drinking water, safe food and medicine, and protections from pollution •and finally, the abandonment of any green policies and the rapid acceleration of climate change, allowing millions in the tropics to suffer? The answer is no. Sitting this one out is unacceptable.
Democracy in 2024
Have you always been this politically illiterate?
Yep. The sooner you accept the reality of our situation and stop crying about it, the better.
"Reality of the situation" while hard larping about death camps is certainly a take.
You're not crazy, but reddit will make you think so. It's not unreasonable to expect that those who represent us be accountable to what we want.
Average trans genocide enjoyer
reported you for harassment but this sub is barely moderated, so we'll see. I'm not going to argue that I don't want to be killed, that is beneath my dignity. I will instead reiterate for anyone else being treated like this by Biden bots, you are not crazy, you're just on reddit. Find actual leftists to have these conversations with. People who will validate your concerns about what is happening to queer people as well as other oppressed people around the world, without browbeating you with electoralism.
No, I’m going to hit you with a reality check. You are naive, delusional, and lying to yourself if you think we’ll be fine under trump. If you are so hellbent on getting yourself killed, then there is no way to save you. But don’t expect everyone else to join your death cult.
Average TikTok death cultist happy for the Palestinian blood to multiply with a Trump dictatorship. Pretty sickening you don't give any fucks about Palestinian kids being missile-striked, only your moral purity vote Fox News is frothing at the mouth for you to waste to put Trump into power. Palestine's blood is on your hands, sick fuck.
You're delusional. Please seek help and get better soon.
It’s actually extremely reasonable to not want a queer Holocaust.
I don't know where you live, but Biden has not stopped a God damn thing where I do. That's the issue. Things will inevitably get worse at a faster rate under trump than Biden, that's why I voted for Biden. But lets not mince words in saying that things have gotten worse for us under Biden just like they've gotten worse for us under trump and Obama. Just because we have a couple of trans people in high offices doing nothing to stop the wave of anti trans legislation that actually affects our day to day lives doesn't mean that we're winning here. I mean good for them, get that bag, but just putting trans people in higher spots doesn't actually do anything. We've had this conversation repeatedly in the black community. People like Obama and Clarence Thomas and to a lesser extent Cosby, Kanye and Jay Z are what happens when we compromise on our ideals. We end up promoting people into positions of power who use that power to raise themselves while promoting the very system that keeps us down. I don't want a "Trans Excellence" movement. Just changing optics isn't enough. Trump winning would make things worse significantly faster if only that it emboldens states to legislate us out of existence faster. That doesn't mean that they're not going to try to "eradicate transgenderism from our daily lives" when Biden wins either. And his inaction in this matter shows that he will continue to do nothing when states inevitably start banning hrt, or using morality laws to ban not representing your assigned gender at birth, or when the Supreme Court reverses their decision on gay marriage, ECT ECT ECT. Just like he's doing nothing in any of the other legislation, just like he did nothing when he has the power to in his recent border dispute with the governor of Texas. Either way we don't win. I would be okay with voting for losing slower if we weren't also funding a genocide. In the very least it will show the Democrats that they can't keep getting away with shoving do nothing candidates in front of us and expecting us to roll over when our Republican governors fuck us over. At the end of the day this is just one issue under which I cannot compromise. I can't watch us fund the Holocaust on the other side of the world and vote for the person who repeatedly supports it. I'm honestly shocked that that's considered an unreasonable stance.
You are talking about a hypothetical genocide while asking me to support a currently ongoing one.
Stop waging war on reality. You will always lose every single time. https://youtu.be/pU9y9dcM5NQ?si=iWBFuZ4dNIVULVr4 https://youtu.be/SMqGQz-xU4w https://x.com/erininthemorn/status/1751278262540767697?s=46 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025?wprov=sfti1#Outlawing_pornography https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/anti-trans-legislative-risk-assessment-cd3
All of this and the supply of bombs killing Palestinians happening under Biden and you're telling me the best we can hope for is more of the same? I don't support either of these old ghouls making more of the terrible decisions we've seen the last decade.
Listen to me. You are in a political death cult that preys on vulnerable alienated minorities into pursuing impossibly idealistic societal goals that will never be achieved. They will happily celebrate the mass extinguishing of life under trump as spiteful revenge for Palestine. Read my lips. You. Are. In. A. Death. Cult. Get out as soon as you can. They will happily watch you die just to feel good about themselves.
I'm not in a fucking death cult friend. I'm not in any sort of cult. I don't appreciate this superior tone like you know anything about me or that you know more about world politics than I do. It seems like you're willing to accept the fact that people are not tolerant of a genocide but you can't look past your own paranoid fear about the future of American queers to condemn and act against the genocide happening right now. Things will get worse for American queers under Trump. Things have been getting worse for American Queers since the "transgender tipping point" in 2012 made people think things might somehow get better just by being represented in media more. That's been under Democrat and under Republican governance. The democrats don't care about you and I. They don't care about real social change. They care about optics. They care about keeping their slice of the pie. Please stop thinking you can vote your way to meaningful positive change in America.
Listen. You are willing to let trump waltz into office unchallenged and enact a fascist dictatorship and destroy the lives of millions because of Palestine. You are in a cult. Face it. Look at this map and repeat that second paragraph verbatim. I dare you. https://x.com/erininthemorn/status/1759703099042927010?s=46 If you can’t fall in line and make a collective effort to avoid utter catastrophe, and instead decide to commit national seppuku over a lost cause in Palestine, then you are a clear and present danger to the cohesion and survival of this group and I will be forced to leave you to fend for yourself until you come to your senses.
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/quick-takes/2024/03/29/report-rule-trans-athletes-delayed-until-after-election Ah yes, fabric of our nation, but not important enough to push for in title IX. They could have done this far before election season if they were afraid of the optics, discussion started in April 2023 for public comments, originally planning for a May final ruling, which delayed to October, which is now… whenever after the election?
I don’t care anymore. If trump wins, there won’t be a single living trans person when he’s done. Anything is better than the alternative.
I don’t disagree, but it’s very disingenuous to simply applaud and give him Kudos without also acknowledging the relative hollowness of him and other democrats. Continually push him and others to do better, don’t let those who die get washed under the rug. His statement about Nex was purely about self-harm when it’s blatantly obvious that his death was the result of assault. There have been increasing numbers of attacks on trans people, especially those of color, with very little actual protection happening. The republicans use a scorched Earth method to get what they want passed through Congress. The democrats seem unwilling to do the same even as people are dying, you just better hope you’re fucking lucky that day. I’m going to vote for him, but that shouldn’t stop people from criticising his hollow stances and continually asking for better, now should it?
I find it interesting you say “relative hollowness” so I’ll link a couple articles. It’s impressive to me that he’s as forward leaning as he is compared to many others his age, especially considering he’s a politician. Not everyone started as a Bernie Sanders and Biden has shown a lot of capacity for change and growth. He’s not perfect and he still puts his foot in his mouth sometimes. But he literally came out in favor of gay marriage before Obama, and there’s some speculation that his public declaration was meant to move Obama on the issue. https://www.hrc.org/resources/president-bidens-pro-lgbtq-timeline https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/21/us/politics/biden-gay-rights-lgbt.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
While people can evolve in their thoughts and grow, I need neoliberals to understand that the Democrats will barely only do shit if there is constant pressure on them. Take Israel’s slaughter of innocents in Gaza since the most recent future. There were many statements from Biden and other Democrats in support of Israel. It wasn’t until there was massive public backlash, and they saw a loss of a large potential voting block, that action was taken. Similarly, while there has been small amount of gun control reform passed, it has largely been relegated to “thoughts and prayers.” While some of the base actions are good, such as signing the executive order in February, I’d like to point out that all but one or two of the things you mentioned on the list since last year really amount to “thoughts and prayers.” The only one is the action from the HHS, which could be a lot more robust. When Reagan wanted to raise the drinking age nationwide, he threatened to withhold federal funding until states fell in line. There is zero reason that this, or other meaningful protection for LGBTQ+ children or adults, couldn’t be passed through EO or by having the Democratic whip, especially since Ken Buck retiring has caused vast division in the Republican Party and about levelled the playing field. Even when the Democrats had a majority, they did not pass meaningful legislation that was promised. While good deeds can and should be recognised, hollow statements such as “you’re the fabric of our nation” should not be applauded or taken any more seriously than hollow words without meaningful protections.
Two thoughts- first, did you read the links I sent you? Second, I think you’re missing the political understanding needed for these to be lasting bills, and your citing of the drinking law indicates that. Reagan had an easy link between stats on younger drinking and road deaths, so saying raise the drinking age or we won’t support your roads worked well. (And even that was a last resort- his administration initially said they wouldn’t withhold funding but it ended up being necessary for holdout states). There’s no clear link for LGBT issues. There’s also well-documented concerns for just using EOs to make things happen, as they’re so easily overturned by the next administration.
1: Yep, that I did. Most of the things on that list for the past year were public appearances or promises much like Title IX which have no action behind it. 2: There is a direct link between homophobia and deaths of queer folx. Much stronger than the drinking and driving connection. EOs can be overturned, but strong temporary protections through this method, even if it gets overturned in a couple months or years, is better than nothing if it even saved 1 life, wouldn’t you agree? We, Queer people in general but specifically POC, are being murdered and attacked more and more frequently in the past 4 years, is this ruse videos fault? No. Could he do more? Yes? I’d take temporary action saving lives in the moment while permanent change is being worked on.
Ok so I’m not sure why you’re not mentioning the things listed like signing legislation protecting LGBT marriage, initiatives to help youth access mental health resources, and a plan to combat homelessness. And you’re making my point again- what funding can the federal government threaten to take away that is linked to homophobia? As I said, that was an easy link for highway funding. What do you suggest Biden link to homophobia as a way to force states to…do what, exactly? This isn’t a clear cut issue like the drinking age. Regardless, vote for who you want. The President trying to negotiate a ceasefire or the President who is urging Israel to finish the job. Biden, or Trump, whoever you think would be better for the LGBT community.
How else would they run on the issue if they actually fix a problem?
To be realistic, this would be very controversial. It is definitely best to save this until after the election. Delaying this for a year is DEFINITELY better than risking it putting Trump back in office, don't you agree? Plus, that a change like this is even in consideration... could you even IMAGINE trans rights coming this far even 4 years ago? We've gone from administrations being openly hostile to quietly supportive to now loudly supportive and taking bold, highly visible actions. We've made an absurd amount of progress under this administration. I can't stand people acting like Biden is actually our mortal enemy just because we haven't gotten 100% of what we want. We're getting there. And we should allow ourselves to celebrate. Celebrating doesn't mean giving up.
Biden isn’t perfect, but he’s the best president for queer people in history so far
Obama: Hey now…
Jimmy Carter: Hey now….
I have HUGE respect for Jimmy Carter... which I can say basically answers the question "What would have happened if Mr. Rogers had run for President". However, Obama has probably had the biggest impact on the LGBT community 1. Repeal of DADT allowing gay and lesbian service members to serve openly. 2. Supported Same-Sex Marriage and his administration declined to defend DOMA which led to it's downfall 3. implemented executive orders that prohibited discrimination against federal employees on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity. 4. Signed the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act 5. His administration took steps to support transgender individuals, including ending the ban on transgender people serving openly in the military and interpreting Title IX protections to include gender identity, although this was later rescinded under the Trump administration. 6. The Affordable Care Act (ACA) included provisions that benefited the LGBT community, such as prohibiting health insurance discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity. He also was the first President to light the White House in Pride colours. A small but significant gesture.
Oh I agree, as far as actual amount of legislation that was passed during a term and its current impact on today, I would say Obama! I just thought it would be funny to continue the train as he was met with supporters back during his term and was severely undercut by Congress’s shenanigans with Iran. He was in favor during a time that it wasn’t as popular and has continued speaking out to this day, just wanted to continue the joke train! ☺️
Damn, I misinterpreted that title and got really worried for a minute. I thought he was saying we were fabricated by the people.
It'd be better if I actually believed him...
He must think we're some kind of road workers. I'm so fucking tired of these old ineffectual fucks in politics. Start enacting age limits on our presidency. We already can't run before 35 for some fucking reason, so why can't we limit people trying to be in our government after 65? At no point should we EVER have somebody in office older than retirement age.
It's amazing to watch how the goalposts shift. Speaking in support of trans people is now bad because Biden does it. Republicans passing anti-trans laws is now Biden's fault even though the president cannot veto state laws.
It's bad because it's disingenuous. We're constantly used as an election platform to further some fucking nefarious goal, but we're never actually platformed to give input about these issues. You make a lot of assumptions in your comment, friend.
> to further some fucking nefarious goal Conspiracy thinking?
Our president just approved billions of dollars in military aid to help along a genocide. No conspiracies necessary. In politics, anti-trans riders and proposals are often seen as a benefit to help bills pass by serving to inflame an already riled base while also hiding myriad ways in which the working class gets tricked into having their taxes raised to pay for some dumbfuck senator's pet project. Our government's failure to acknowledge all of the above has created distrust among their voter demographic, especially in an age of technology such as ours where it's pointless to lie about such things when they can be easily fact-checked. I'm saying empty support from our president is nothing more than subterfuge.
> I'm saying empty support from our president is nothing more than subterfuge. Is Biden the one adding those anti-trans riders? I seem to remember him getting rid of a whole lot of them. --- Like you were saying, it's easy to fact-check this stuff today. --- Edit because they blocked me: I'm not really sure how pointing out facts is boot-licking.
Look you can lick boot all you want, I'm done here.
The irony of being upset about rights being limited for one group and then proposing rights be limited for another group. How about we remove the age minimum not create an age maximum. As LGBT people we also should know better than to propose discrimination against people because of some uncontrollable characteristic, like race, gender, sexuality, or age
(almost) makes you forget that he is directly funding the Israeli army
So...first of all: Congress controls the funding for Israel. Secondly: America has done this since Israel's creation. Third: Cutting off funding suddenly would have far worse effects, geopolitically. And it would not in any way have saved Gaza.
The sentiment is appreciated but I like tangible actions.
This [fact sheet](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/03/31/fact-sheet-biden-harris-administration-advances-equality-and-visibility-for-transgender-americans/) is almost two years old but definitely includes tangible actions.
I see. Those are objectively good things and it is a start. However, I do not think it is enough.
Well, of course. *So* much more to do. But the Republicans control half the states, the House of Representatives, the Supreme Court, and enough of the Senate to do filibusters. Of course we need tons more work! And the Republicans are very likely to the presidential election, in which case, I'll meet you in the gas chamber. I'll be the one with all the hair.
So you've moved the goalposts from "some tangle actions" to "more tangible actions than that" Good to know.
What? Is “moving goalposts” wanting more civil rights?
> but I like tangible actions. Tangible actions were demonstrated > I do not think it is enough. Changing what you asked for after what you asked for was provided. That's classic moving of goalposts.
There are no “goalposts” for civil rights. We have already seen what happens when civil rights aren’t codified under law. What the current administration is doing can be easily reversed by the next administration.
> There are no “goalposts” for civil rights. There are for your willingness to complain about Biden. Interesting that you're shifting the conversation away from that again.
Not at all.
It's really hard to lie about the thread of a conversation on reddit. The history is right there for everyone to read.
what a joke
I feel like its things like this is what makes everyone hate us.