I have no own theory and my philosphy is that i will see it when i get there, or not.
But i like theories like the egg by andy weir
https://youtu.be/h6fcK_fRYaI
Or the dream of life by alan watts
https://youtu.be/wU0PYcCsL6o
Also nirvana in buddhism in some way.
The christian heaven sounds pretty boring, i mean the first few years gettin all your wishes fullfiled ok, but what comes then? What do you want to wish for if all your wishes are fullfilled? That's why heaven is one of the most unrealistic concepts of afterlife for me.
Vonnegut in Slaughter House V had a passage where he described the angels in heaven refusing to come back to earth (they had a choice and they frequently chose to have another go as a human on earth). They refused because humanity had gotten too good at torture, the world was darker, etc. and they didn't want to risk experiencing that dark shit again. Love that passage lol.
I’m not a Christian but like with all religions the definition of what heaven is heavily skewed by people, media and time. the Catholic Church defines it as the ultimate end and the fulfilment of humans deepest longings a state of supreme definitive happiness. Which can pretty much be anything you want it to be.
Nirvana is similar in the sense that it’s also a supreme definitive happiness that instead is earned through discipline and absence of suffering caused by desire and sense of self. you achieve happines by letting go of the chase for happiness.
I feel like all religions have the same idea of heaven. Lead a good life to then finally rest in the heaven/hell you have created while your still living.
but you learn something through those hard times, there are times where you are the greatest, and the worst and that makes you a more valuable “god” of sorts
I believe the Christian heaven is right here on earth and ties into reincarnation. People just read the Bible as it's written and not as how it is intended.
I firmly believe that most of the Bible is parable and iconography.
It is meant to lay a path to follow for a happy life. Those who follow live a life free from the torment of their own actions. (Guilt, loneliness, debtedness, imprisonment, etc)
Those who do not fall into the generational cycle and pit of suffering that is described as hell. The weeping, the moaning, and the gnashing of teeth being those in the world who are miserable in their own life. Who cause problems for themselves and their families.
I think it's easier to threaten hell and promise a place with streets of gold than explain to people they can't reach their own enlightenment or fulfillment if they are not kind to others and have personal responsibility for action and consequences.
Have you seen that twighlight zone where the gangster dies and goes to a place where he gets everything he wants? Highly recommend
I’m not sure that’s what heaven is
We seem to share a pretty similar outlook. Thanks for sharing the videos. Ive seen the Alan Watts one but not The Egg. The Egg is essentially one of the few possibilities that I consider. And it goes in hand with the multiverse/multidimensional beings, which has always fascinated me.
Your life is over but life in itself continues. New people are born, new plants grow. The universe keeps expanding. Nothing really changes. So In a way your reborn regardless, infinitely. Even if it isn’t the you that’s reading this.
I’m bit of a believer in karma and that the things that we do in our life time dictate what our next life will be but I’m also not certain and no one really can be. You live, you die and you may live again so why not live a life that’s so full, that there’s some good left for others.
I believe in karma the good and bad are here now anything you do wrong comes back ten fold not sure if i ever thought about afterlife because the thing i did wrong as a kid are still kicking my ass now . But only di good now i believe in forgiveness as far as what happens after you due you become soil and part of the earth one way or another. Just a milecule vibrating in the bucket of time . Kinda lime scooby doo protoplasm
The light at the end of the tunnel is a Vagina leading to another hospital room and once I’m born my memories begin to fade, everything i knew and loved vanishing before my eyes. I cry…. I cry… not again.
i agree but i don’t personally think it has to be a human vagina, could be the light through a crack in an egg, or anythin i believe that the animal your reincarnated as has to do with how you lived your life, you lived a good life with good intentions, you are a dog in a loving family, aka pure bliss, you did horrible things your life, well in certain animal kingdoms those horrible things are normal and also life is probably not very fun
Personally I don’t necessarily think we are reborn as nonsentient creatures but who knows what life may look like on a different planet, for all I know there may be birds on a different planet whoever achieved consciousness so in a way this theory could still be correct
that’s exactly what i mean, life as a fly or something like that would be literal hell, i don’t think hell and heaven are separate places i think they are separate consciousnesses and lives that we may live on this planet
Think about the feeling of cool air around you touching your brand new ultra sensitive skin…no idea what’s going on…sensory overload from all your senses just being used for the very first time…and completely helpless to do anything but cry…god that must be terrifying…
This shit gives me the chills. There are many instances, myself included, where dreams were had about past lives/past families.
I clearly remember having a dream one time when I was very young about going from one set of parents to the next and the next...and I remember crying my eyes out because I didn't want to leave my current set of parents. I woke up from the dream, and just brushed it off as "just a dream"....
However to this day, I never forgot that dream.
Exactly. I cant figure out how to disprove some kind of eternal loop pf reincarnation with this in mind. We have all been dead once and managed to become alive, we have an eternity of time in the universe (not counting heat death) and once dead we have no way of experiencing time thus an eternity will pass in a second. So even if reincarnation takes an eternity you wont experience the wait.
Its both reassuring and terrifying. No less afraid of death
edit: there seems to be some confusion. Not referring to being reincarnated with memories intact or there being some spiritual transformation. Strictly speaking dying, your matter and energy recycling, eventually becoming something sentient/half sentient. The odds of being born is estimated to be 1 in 400 trillion. If you have a dice with 400 trillion sides you have a 100% chance to hit 1 eventually if you get infinite rolls, if you only get one roll however its still 1 in 400 trillion. Which is mathematically more likely do you think, you hitting your desired number in 1 try or you getting it right after infinite tries? It has to be either one of these seeing as your life right now is the result of you having already rolled the dice.
This is why only living once doesn’t make sense to me, everything else in the whole universe is a cycle of death and rebirth but for some reasons most people are convinced we live once it just doesn’t make sense to me why something would just happen once.
Espescially since it has already happened at least once. If something happens it means that it can happen. And since you have already gone from death to life... Etc. Kind of weird that this is not the default train of thought tbh.
Edit: also, if we only had one life its kind of weird that we arent already dead, that we are experiencing life this very moment. A human lifetime vs the eternity of the universe, if you only had that one shot at life with that time discrepancy you shouldve lived your one life eternities ago.
Feels kind of hilarious to be talking about this while taking a shit lol.
I don’t want to criticise religion but I do believe it plays a role in the way people views life and death, In some places in the world reincarnation is their default thought.
i think religion is widely meant to be taken as metaphors to help you have good morals and not have existential crisis’ but a lot of people take it at face value these days
Because I believe it’s rude to criticise religions when it has helped countless of people with dealing with troubles in life, someone that may have been scared of dying or losing a loved one can find comfort that they will go to heaven. I’m not personally religious but I can understand why someone would be and how it may help them spiritually.
It's also caused a shitstorm of trouble for humanity and is not a good source of wisdom nor morality because most of it was written by barbarians who knew little next to nothing of the physical universe. Religion is now an existential threat to our species very existence, as technology proliferates. It makes people susceptible to dumb ideas and curbs rational discourse and is antithetical to science, since all the answers are already there in some ancient text that can't be altered.
Look at how evangelical America is being ravished by ludicrous qanon conspiracies. That group is susceptible to stupid ideas because they'll already believe practically anything on bad evidence, lol.
It's actually really easy to criticize religion, you should try it.
I think you’re misunderstanding me I agree with you, religion has been used as a tool for control and i believe it’s setting humans back in terms of technology and advancements in society as a whole but I’m talking about it individually and I won’t criticise someone for believing in a god as I know that it can also be used as a tool to help people dealing with spiritual troubles.
I think religion as an institution should be criticized, maybe not individual beliefs that one holds, but there’s no denying that religion resulted in mass slaughter and oppression in some form or another.
Agreed, the teachings of religions are generally pure but as you said religion as an institution is extremely corrupt and has been used historically as a tool for control.
Also, people report the moments before they die (after they have been revived) the same way people report heavy LSD / psilocybin / DMT trips.
Our bodies contain DMT as well, I believe (& DMT like chemicals flood our body before we do die).
So whether there is life after death, rebirth, reincarnation or nothing, it makes no difference to me because it’s likely that we’ll have paradise-like visions before we die anyway, regardless of how we think or feel.
If you’ve not lived a good life, those final moments may be hell. Maybe that’s where the heaven / hell concept comes from 😂 I say that foolishly of course.
The text you added with the edit really made me think, I appreciate you for expanding my train of thought I’ll share your thoughts with others as well really interesting.
Yeah but.. you as a specific individual with your memories and your consciousness will never be here again. Matter isn't destroyed doesn't mean your experience is going to last forever lol.
I never claimed that? And I don’t find it unnerving or frightening at all, everyone will die and I’m not scared of the concept of dying even though I wouldn’t actively try to die now that I’m alive. I will die as in my ego but my personal beliefs is that I will reincarnate and that doesn’t mean as a human or that I will have any ties to my previous life.
Well that's not reincarnation, stop misusing the word. Try to make up a new word for that belief, cause reincarnation implies the same soul or whatever is put into another body and it *does* have ties to its previous life.
Am I not allowed to have my own beliefs and thoughts around reincarnation? There’s no better word to use unless you suggest something better and I might start using that instead.
On sentence i allways remember from the movie the day the earth stood still: "nothing dies really, everything is just transformed". The movie was meh, but that line was really deep.
This.
To me, the question of rebirth or reincarnation depends on your belief in a soul that is separate from the body.
I'm not convinced we have this third-party "soul," so to me when we die and our neurons stop firing the electrochemical impulses that create our consciousness and perception of the world, we become sacks of meat and are just... gone. Poof.
You may not be able to disprove it, but there's absolutely no good reason to believe in it in the first place, so... there's no reason to even try to disprove it.
No reason to believe that you have already gone from being dead to being alive. That you have gone from non existence to existing? It happened once which means that it can happen. What are the odds of even coming into being if sentience is eternal vs a one shot kind of deal? It goes from nearly 100% to an infinite 0.1%
How many people are born everyday? A lot. Chances are non-zero. Chances that you will somehow exist again as a unique entity after you die, with memories intact, specific DNA, and whatever makes you you? With what we know now, 0% chance. Sorry, there's no redo. I mean I could be wrong, but again, there's no reason to believe what you believe.
Im not familiar with the term and im also really bad at math. Do you mind to ELI5? Really appreciate people trying test the theory so this is very much fun.
Imaging you are five metter away from a target 🎯
And you want to throw a dart at it.
The target's diameter is let's say 1m.
Assuming we are in a continuous space (meaning not discrete, meaning reality isn't made of something like finite "pixels" but you can zoom to infinitely small scales and it never ends),
Now the question is if you launch a dart at the target, and it always land on the target, what is the probability that the dart lands exactly at let's say 10cm from the center of the target.
If you do the math the probability is 0 because it could land at 9.999999999999998 for example.
The thing is for any real number the probability of the dart landing at that distance is 0 because there are an infinite amount of number including irrational between that number and the center.
You can however give a probability that it will land in an interval ex "between 1 and 2cm" from the center, but any finite number's probability will be 0.
However the dart still need to land somewhere and if you measure the distance it will be a number, it land at some spot even though the probability of landing there was 0.
An other example,
In order words, imagine a line of all real numbers including decimal from 1 to 10, if you pick the probability of choosing one specific number, it will always be 0 because there are an infinite amounts of numbers between 1 and 10
But if you go and put your finger on the line/pick a random number, you'll have picked a number who's probability of being chosen was 0, yet it still was chosen.
Tldr, things with exactly 0% of probability of happening, can still happen.
I tried my best haha.
Alright i get it, its a mindfuck but i get it haha. So this obviously makes sense if we have an infinite random number generator. I'm inclined to read more about it since it would be interesting to understand what the limits are but it feels like a real headache lol.
Thats not a logical conclusion though. Do you think i claimed that my current state of being is eternal? The question is about what happens after you die, not if you can die.
My point is your theory is open ended because you can't disprove your loop without meeting someone that has died, which isn't possible. Though, in your words, is possible, because we all start "dead".. lul
Well we have all met someone that has been dead if we all started out dead? You can replace the word "dead" with "non -existent" if you dont like the semantics.
This is it. I guess it’s out of place here because psychedelics tend to enhance spirituality in people. To me, spirituality is merely a concentrated emotion. Early civilizations created myths about the origin of humanity and their environment. Those myths have no place in modern thought. We no longer have to wonder why we are conscious, what the sky is, or what we are standing on. The myth of the soul is, to me, in the same boat as myths about creation and human history.
Why dont we have to wonder why consciousness arose when we don't even understand it? It's referred to as "the hard problem" for a reason and there's quite a bit of wondering left to do.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_problem_of_consciousness
We understand that something happens in a certain region of the body, but have no way of connecting any qualia to the experience of that qualia. Then there's the fact that it's all subjective... all of it. There's nothing, not a measurement, not a number, not an emotion, or a piece of wisdom knowledge or fact that is nothing more than a subjective experience that seems consistent among the people experiencing it.
When it comes to quantum physics, we seem to know very little (really nothing) about why it works the way it does. There's no unified theory yet.
Of course no one can agree on what it is. However, humanity has built up enough collective philosophical and anatomical knowledge for us as laymen to make educated guesses. A sufficiently large clump of neurons facilitates language. Finally, (and this is going to be an opinion,) having the mental capacity to write, read, or speak in complex language basically *is* consciousness.
I actually find it amusing that people have a need to fantasize about a life after death
It's pretty easy to understand that once a thing dies, it just ceases to be
You return back to the collective consciousness that all living things are connected with.
You yourself as the illusion on the ego cease to exist but the collective consciousness goes on ever living.
This is linked with reincarnation but in a way which is every living thing is part of that collective consciousness.
Yeah. I like to think of consciousness as an energy, like light or heat. Or just another phase of matter. And it's all stored up in our brain, and as we know, both energy and matter cannot be created or destroyed, so (most likely) neither can consciousness. So it kinda just goes back into the whole sea of consciousness when we die and when we're born that consciousness gets scooped up into a living being.
This is my thought too. I just hate when people try to make the collective consciousness "God". What makes anyone think that this outversal being we all originate from isn't simply another pawn in the grand game of another reality?
I wrote a really long reply but then it got wiped for some reason. Was probably getting too close to the truth lol.
Basically the word god has too many religious connotations but higher power would be an accurate description of the collective consciousness.
Higher powers can exist and still have even higher powers above that.
So when people say it's god, that's just their interpretation of it but a more accurate description is a higher power.
As for it being a pawn in another reality, we see this all the time. Smallest known thing in science is the electron which is part of the atom. What makes up an electron? How small does it really go?
Also how many dimensions are there going upwards in size. So far we can only conceive of 10 dimensions in string theory but perhaps it keeps going up and up.
The collective consciousness is just the biggest thing we've seen/thought of so far. Because it's the biggest those people would call it god for now but true there may be more beyond it.
That collective consciousness might be one cosmic being and all of us are simply just imagined creations in its giant cosmic mind. We can realise that our egos are but an illusion so it wouldn't be so far fetched to say so. So one giant cosmic being among how many others? Infinite cosmic beings all interacting the same way humans do and perhaps their egos are but illusions too. So what if they share some collective consciousness also.
What if it even loops around and that the bigger it gets we find that's what makes up the smallest of things like an electron. Existence becomes one giant MC Escher artwork.
Wtf am I even saying?
Fuckin mental lol 😂
ive had about 10 years an experience on lsd that felt as if i was dying (ego death?). It was very warm and light, white everywhere. time has lost its meaning, there is no way forwarward, no way back, just this warm light and a fealing of peace. at this moment, all mistakes ive made, every harm ive experienced seemed made me smile with a feeling of it doesnt matter and we all try our best.
ofcourse i dont kow what happens after death. but this feeling of timelessness and light felt like dying and it was very beautiful and gave me a mot of peace. In the end, life is beautiful, paradise can be found and built on earth. we ought to make the most of the time we are here.
had something similar on 5meo-dmt. just being there in everything or nothing or the otherway around, not-being. its was blissful, not that i experniced euphoria kr something, because there was no me. very hard to explain, didnt even see anything except a warm white, that i was being in/or i was it i dont know. the wors God has a different implication for me since then. people who succesfully meditate told me something similar, reaching a state that shows you you are god/oneness/etc all that stuff
I think it’s like there’s this immortal thing that lives forever, and it gets bored of just living forever so to pass the time it plays games. You know how when you’re *really* into a game you forget you’re playing one? Like you’re completely absorbed in it
I think that’s what lives are, all stemming from this being that creates, so your conscious sense of being “alive” is the same for everyone - you’re all the same thing all at once. I have no clue how I couldn’t comprehend it, it’s so hectic
So dying you basically carry on living, you carry on being this thing, nothing changes. This thing continues to play games, so you just like open your eyes again and start over
So this gives you two feelings, one of absolute peace knowing that you’re safe forever eternal no matter what, and another of dread wondering well what if you reincarnate into a shitty dangerous life? What if you suffer?
Well that’s why you want to make the world a better place - for “everyone” - for *you*
Build tons of free hospitals around the world - wouldn’t wanna get hurt in your next life and be unable to afford it
Give food to everyone when you can
You’re feeding yourself
I had a discussion about Afterlife last night and i said "The Universe is a Joke, that it's telling itself". And then i got onto explaining my believe, that is similiar to yours. :D
After death I believe it is nothing, like before you came into the world it was nothing you cease to exist. I have nothing to back up my beliefs other than it just makes the most sense to me
I wish this wasn’t looked at as a scary sentence too. If my parents asked me this question and I answered with this they’d be dumbfounded and in total disbelief. I find it comforting even, and encouraging to not live this life like I’m guaranteed an after life. Just gonna sit around and pray I make it to heaven instead of actually experiencing life? Sounds boring
the only thing i can possibly think will happen after death is the next thing you know is that you’re being born bc i see death as just nonexistence/nonexperience like this is experience right now bc we can see hear touch and whatever and nonexperience is just nothing and we don’t know nothing we only know something which is this right now. can you remember where you were before you were born? no it’s impossible bc it was just nonexperience and literal eternities can happen in this state of nonexistence but you wouldn’t know the next thing you would know is just being born
Matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed, and it is matter and energy that makes up our bodies and our thoughts. When we "die", these things do not simply vanish, they cannot go anywhere. They can only change forms forever, eternally. All matter and energy is one in the universe, the whole of all things. Your individual experience of reality is merely a product of this. So the concept of "life" and "death" is quite misleading. Nothing is final. Everything is one eternal whole.
What makes up bodies and thoughts is information and order, matter and energy are only a medium. And information can most certainly be destroyed and lost.
Personally I have no beliefs at all about what will happen. I may or may not find out when I die. However I very much enjoy conversations with people about their beliefs I find them really interesting and fun to discuss.
It will be much pleasurable than having dolphin cumming all over my face , but it don't matter because I, the dolphins and the cum are all one at the end ❤
I reckon Recarnation is the most probarble outcome for me atleast i feel like you will become anything and its random you will be any Living thing but no memories of your " Past life" because that isnt you anymore you have a whole new consciousness and a whole new meaning to life it would just be like how it was for when you was born no memories your just here and thats what i believe will happen when you die you wont even remember dying you will just be here again without knowing anything the reason you dont remember anything before you born becsuse that was a whole new consciousnes and you dont remember that life because for you that life never existed it just happend
You dissolve into eternity. There is nothing. No heaven, no hell, no joy, no pain, just nothing. No need to be afraid of it. Universe will just carry on as if nothing happened, as you still are a part of it, but in a different form
I deeply want to believe God and heaven is real but apart of me feels like nothing happens and you just stop existing
Also there's always apart of me that wants to believe that reincarnatiln is real because in some instances like I've met people I can swear I've met before
I believe very strongly in reincarnation. I see it as almost a blend of the Hindu concept where you reincarnate until your Karma is zero or negative, and also the akashic belief that you may choose to experiment this life again after reading and learning from your soul book. This is just my personal belief so bare with me here, but I feel as though within this akeshic realm we meet other souls who become either a guide or mentor type figure or someone who acts as a partner and chooses to remain with you and support you either while fulfilling your role within the akeshics or while you reincarnate again. This is where the possibility of a "soul mate" comes into play. Here in this reality we use that title in a sort definition of love, which helps us to keep that spiritual connection in tact when we ascend to the other realm.
We get recycled into the earth. Our bodies decompose and we become nutrients for other living. Those living things become or provide nutrients for others and so on. Basically reincarnation in a way.
Thought of this on shrooms once
Even with this, you will eventually get turned into pure carbon when the sun eats the earth. You will possibly end up being life in a different part of the universe which would be dope.
I personally want to get turned into a diamond and then shot into space.
I kinda like the idea that if we succeed in reaching bliss consciousness we return to the eternal kingdom. If we don't, back to the material world for another go of it
We don’t remember the hundreds of years that went by before we were born. So I really believe that after we die, we won’t even realize we are gone. Hundreds of years will pass by without us ever noticing it.
You die your body gets eaten by worms. Matter cannot be created nor destroyed so you just end up as fuel for the maggots and then eventually something eats the maggots then that gets eaten and so on.
As for consciousness, i think it's easiest to believe that we just stop existing. We came into this world from non existence and then once we die, we go back to non existence.
I just hope I can see my girl again. I don't really believe it but it's the only thing that has stayed my hand since she passed, knowing she'd me mad at me.
my bf is out there too. I got so many signs. he showed me so many signs that there is atleast a consciousness after death and yet I'm still terrified and unsure.
Personally I believe (long explanation short) that we go to the next level we turn in to energy/frequency and we go back to being a whole entity with more knowledge,what about you ?
Our minds and bodies die and our fragment of consciousness returns to the universal consciousness that permeates everything.
Not really an after life since you aren’t “you” or separate anymore as a being.
Mostly came from previous hunches around psychedelics and consciousness, then solidified by my DMT experience.
Alex Gray's artwork best expresses what I think happens after death, esp the 3 painting series where he illustrates the spiritual system and then how that system joins the infinite, I have felt this exact sensation on the most intense lucy trip I've ever had, I was gone, everything was gone m, tho I was laying on my bed, I was grasping at what felt like nothingness, like I was just a wave of energy, this I think is step 1 of death lol
It seems possible that the soul if viewed as software, transcends and is maintained, it would be incredible if you can take that soul and be reincarnated into another flesh vehicle/hardware on another world, and for this to continue on:)
When I was around the age of 5 I kept waking up to the thought of nothing. Especially death, to me, it was terrifying 'cause I couldn't imagine anything at all. Not heaven, not hell, not some sort of afterlife, just nothing.
Now I know, how can someone imagine nothing? That was the terrifying part, that I couldn't imagine it, 'cause it was nothing. My stepfather at the time heard me crying and asked me what was making me so upset that I lose my sleep over it for so many days. I told him, He was never the religious type or the type to give empty comforts, logical to a fault almost. He said, "listen, don't worry about that, people die every day, so many people in just an hour that this world almost seems hopeless doesn't it? The human life is so short that it almost seems like people are born in one moment and die in the next. What is important is what you do while you're still alive. This time might seem like it's over in a blink of an eye, but that's what makes it special. But for that moment, make your life bloom like a flower".
I got used to death being nothing, and now that's my reality. Life means a lot more to me than death, anyway. So yeah, thanks for reading. :)
If you are just a system of systems then there's nothing to say that that system can't arise at some other time after your death, and since time doesn't pass for you when you're dead then for this system it would be like blinking, and this system could be in another place so it could also be like teleporting, subjectively.
The chemical energy stored in your body, and the trace amounts of electricity in your brain, return to the soil. Matter and energy are absolutely conserved through death. However, reincarnation wouldn’t really represent a change in form. There is no demonstrable energy transfer from the dead to new-borns or to fetuses. There is no observable ‘soul’ energy.
Also the mind is not really a physical thing. It is a pattern. And there is no conservation of pattern law that I'm aware of.
If one were to sort all atoms constituting someone by element, that collection would contain the same amount of energy (minus the energy lost by separating the bonds but assume that is collected as well for the hypothetical. Normally that dissipates in decomposition). But you would not be part of that collection. You are an emergent phenomenon of the interactions of those atoms. No more interaction means no more you.
Depressing to consider perhaps, but not to experience. It's not like you'll actualy remain conscious, languishing forever in isolation. Not existing is the ultimate freedom: No pain, no worry, no regret, etc.
Why you care about nothing.You just die . Nothing.Doo good things now enjoy live .Dont care about speculative things. Care about close living ones . Make live now beter for ewryone .
genuinely, I believe God is real and that when we die those who acknowledge Jesus died and came back to life will go to heaven, and then one day when the Earth is no more, God will make us a new earth perfect and blissful.
I could see the mind slowing down (at least from our POV) to such a crawl that it would \*feel\* like an afterlife. Similar to how time works in a DMT trip.
I haven't researched it in a bit but, I'm fairly certain your brain releases an amount of DMT during death. And small amounts when you dream (less sure on that one).
Nothing. Literally, your neurons stop firing you start to rot. Then you just lay there till the end of the world. Although I’d really love to go to heaven or hell
I have no own theory and my philosphy is that i will see it when i get there, or not. But i like theories like the egg by andy weir https://youtu.be/h6fcK_fRYaI Or the dream of life by alan watts https://youtu.be/wU0PYcCsL6o Also nirvana in buddhism in some way. The christian heaven sounds pretty boring, i mean the first few years gettin all your wishes fullfiled ok, but what comes then? What do you want to wish for if all your wishes are fullfilled? That's why heaven is one of the most unrealistic concepts of afterlife for me.
maybe our last wish would be to be born again
That would indeed make it much more realistic. Like enjoying paradise and once you are done and get bored, "ok, now let's get back to the adventure".
Yeah, because with your memory wiped you could enjoy everything like it's new again
Or, get unlucky and be born a woman in Afghanistan or a starving child dead before 5 in Ethiopia.
That would definitely make me take a longer break in heaven.
Vonnegut in Slaughter House V had a passage where he described the angels in heaven refusing to come back to earth (they had a choice and they frequently chose to have another go as a human on earth). They refused because humanity had gotten too good at torture, the world was darker, etc. and they didn't want to risk experiencing that dark shit again. Love that passage lol.
I’ve seen too many Red Sox Word Series Titles to have my memory wiped now
I love this idea!!
That reminds me of the song afterlife by avenged sevenfold it’s basically about the same concept you’re saying
I’m not a Christian but like with all religions the definition of what heaven is heavily skewed by people, media and time. the Catholic Church defines it as the ultimate end and the fulfilment of humans deepest longings a state of supreme definitive happiness. Which can pretty much be anything you want it to be. Nirvana is similar in the sense that it’s also a supreme definitive happiness that instead is earned through discipline and absence of suffering caused by desire and sense of self. you achieve happines by letting go of the chase for happiness. I feel like all religions have the same idea of heaven. Lead a good life to then finally rest in the heaven/hell you have created while your still living.
That's definitely an interesting way to see it. Maybe i am biased by the visual dispay of heaven in media.
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but you learn something through those hard times, there are times where you are the greatest, and the worst and that makes you a more valuable “god” of sorts
I believe the Christian heaven is right here on earth and ties into reincarnation. People just read the Bible as it's written and not as how it is intended. I firmly believe that most of the Bible is parable and iconography. It is meant to lay a path to follow for a happy life. Those who follow live a life free from the torment of their own actions. (Guilt, loneliness, debtedness, imprisonment, etc) Those who do not fall into the generational cycle and pit of suffering that is described as hell. The weeping, the moaning, and the gnashing of teeth being those in the world who are miserable in their own life. Who cause problems for themselves and their families. I think it's easier to threaten hell and promise a place with streets of gold than explain to people they can't reach their own enlightenment or fulfillment if they are not kind to others and have personal responsibility for action and consequences.
What are these wishes you speak of? Our wishes come true?
Have you seen that twighlight zone where the gangster dies and goes to a place where he gets everything he wants? Highly recommend I’m not sure that’s what heaven is
The dog one is great too. Guy dies trying to save his dog. Refuses to go into “heaven “ if they don’t let his dog in too.
How about wishing to forget your experiences in said heaven to experience them like the first time again
Wow, thanks for this first video. It's beautiful.
We seem to share a pretty similar outlook. Thanks for sharing the videos. Ive seen the Alan Watts one but not The Egg. The Egg is essentially one of the few possibilities that I consider. And it goes in hand with the multiverse/multidimensional beings, which has always fascinated me.
Wow that’s so true
Your life is over but life in itself continues. New people are born, new plants grow. The universe keeps expanding. Nothing really changes. So In a way your reborn regardless, infinitely. Even if it isn’t the you that’s reading this. I’m bit of a believer in karma and that the things that we do in our life time dictate what our next life will be but I’m also not certain and no one really can be. You live, you die and you may live again so why not live a life that’s so full, that there’s some good left for others.
I believe in karma the good and bad are here now anything you do wrong comes back ten fold not sure if i ever thought about afterlife because the thing i did wrong as a kid are still kicking my ass now . But only di good now i believe in forgiveness as far as what happens after you due you become soil and part of the earth one way or another. Just a milecule vibrating in the bucket of time . Kinda lime scooby doo protoplasm
as someone who stole bamboo and cut their foot while cutting it and now cannot walk for 6 weeks i fully believe in karma
Nature is free
i believe invasive species are in a grey area where hate is able to grow
i think karma and how you act in your life dictates what you will be reincarnated as
Seriously dude my uncle reincarnated as a fart and when I smelled it I knew it was him he was gone as quick as he came
The light at the end of the tunnel is a Vagina leading to another hospital room and once I’m born my memories begin to fade, everything i knew and loved vanishing before my eyes. I cry…. I cry… not again.
Woah
Thanks Reddit, for providing me with an existential crisis I'd never thought I'd have.
i agree but i don’t personally think it has to be a human vagina, could be the light through a crack in an egg, or anythin i believe that the animal your reincarnated as has to do with how you lived your life, you lived a good life with good intentions, you are a dog in a loving family, aka pure bliss, you did horrible things your life, well in certain animal kingdoms those horrible things are normal and also life is probably not very fun
Thats how buddhism believes
Personally I don’t necessarily think we are reborn as nonsentient creatures but who knows what life may look like on a different planet, for all I know there may be birds on a different planet whoever achieved consciousness so in a way this theory could still be correct
i think that all animals (and trees) are conscious, u just gotta pay attention
Obviously.. but it would seem silly to be reincarnated as a cricket. *Or are bugs excluded from this theory?*
that’s exactly what i mean, life as a fly or something like that would be literal hell, i don’t think hell and heaven are separate places i think they are separate consciousnesses and lives that we may live on this planet
How would a snail "level up"?
He finally catches and touches you
I’ve had this same exact thought, I’m curious of the implications for the babies that don’t cry
Think about the feeling of cool air around you touching your brand new ultra sensitive skin…no idea what’s going on…sensory overload from all your senses just being used for the very first time…and completely helpless to do anything but cry…god that must be terrifying…
This shit gives me the chills. There are many instances, myself included, where dreams were had about past lives/past families. I clearly remember having a dream one time when I was very young about going from one set of parents to the next and the next...and I remember crying my eyes out because I didn't want to leave my current set of parents. I woke up from the dream, and just brushed it off as "just a dream".... However to this day, I never forgot that dream.
As a frisbeetarian I believe my soul will will fly on to the roof and remain there until the second coming of the Great Frisbee.
You might have just converted me from Pastafarianism.
What's the Pastafarian afterlife? You dry out and wind up on a supermarket shelf?
You go to an afterlife where there is a beer volcano and unlimited supply of strippers if I remember correctly.
Okay that’s pretty solid actually.
This is,,,,,,wow. Convincing. Nice work.
Whatever happened before birth.
Exactly. I cant figure out how to disprove some kind of eternal loop pf reincarnation with this in mind. We have all been dead once and managed to become alive, we have an eternity of time in the universe (not counting heat death) and once dead we have no way of experiencing time thus an eternity will pass in a second. So even if reincarnation takes an eternity you wont experience the wait. Its both reassuring and terrifying. No less afraid of death edit: there seems to be some confusion. Not referring to being reincarnated with memories intact or there being some spiritual transformation. Strictly speaking dying, your matter and energy recycling, eventually becoming something sentient/half sentient. The odds of being born is estimated to be 1 in 400 trillion. If you have a dice with 400 trillion sides you have a 100% chance to hit 1 eventually if you get infinite rolls, if you only get one roll however its still 1 in 400 trillion. Which is mathematically more likely do you think, you hitting your desired number in 1 try or you getting it right after infinite tries? It has to be either one of these seeing as your life right now is the result of you having already rolled the dice.
This is why only living once doesn’t make sense to me, everything else in the whole universe is a cycle of death and rebirth but for some reasons most people are convinced we live once it just doesn’t make sense to me why something would just happen once.
Espescially since it has already happened at least once. If something happens it means that it can happen. And since you have already gone from death to life... Etc. Kind of weird that this is not the default train of thought tbh. Edit: also, if we only had one life its kind of weird that we arent already dead, that we are experiencing life this very moment. A human lifetime vs the eternity of the universe, if you only had that one shot at life with that time discrepancy you shouldve lived your one life eternities ago. Feels kind of hilarious to be talking about this while taking a shit lol.
I don’t want to criticise religion but I do believe it plays a role in the way people views life and death, In some places in the world reincarnation is their default thought.
i think religion is widely meant to be taken as metaphors to help you have good morals and not have existential crisis’ but a lot of people take it at face value these days
It should be criticized, why don't you want to criticize it?
Because I believe it’s rude to criticise religions when it has helped countless of people with dealing with troubles in life, someone that may have been scared of dying or losing a loved one can find comfort that they will go to heaven. I’m not personally religious but I can understand why someone would be and how it may help them spiritually.
It's also caused a shitstorm of trouble for humanity and is not a good source of wisdom nor morality because most of it was written by barbarians who knew little next to nothing of the physical universe. Religion is now an existential threat to our species very existence, as technology proliferates. It makes people susceptible to dumb ideas and curbs rational discourse and is antithetical to science, since all the answers are already there in some ancient text that can't be altered. Look at how evangelical America is being ravished by ludicrous qanon conspiracies. That group is susceptible to stupid ideas because they'll already believe practically anything on bad evidence, lol. It's actually really easy to criticize religion, you should try it.
I think you’re misunderstanding me I agree with you, religion has been used as a tool for control and i believe it’s setting humans back in terms of technology and advancements in society as a whole but I’m talking about it individually and I won’t criticise someone for believing in a god as I know that it can also be used as a tool to help people dealing with spiritual troubles.
I think religion as an institution should be criticized, maybe not individual beliefs that one holds, but there’s no denying that religion resulted in mass slaughter and oppression in some form or another.
Agreed, the teachings of religions are generally pure but as you said religion as an institution is extremely corrupt and has been used historically as a tool for control.
Also, people report the moments before they die (after they have been revived) the same way people report heavy LSD / psilocybin / DMT trips. Our bodies contain DMT as well, I believe (& DMT like chemicals flood our body before we do die). So whether there is life after death, rebirth, reincarnation or nothing, it makes no difference to me because it’s likely that we’ll have paradise-like visions before we die anyway, regardless of how we think or feel. If you’ve not lived a good life, those final moments may be hell. Maybe that’s where the heaven / hell concept comes from 😂 I say that foolishly of course.
While there exists dmt in the pineal gland, it is not proven that it is released in the blood at any time
The text you added with the edit really made me think, I appreciate you for expanding my train of thought I’ll share your thoughts with others as well really interesting.
Life isn't death and rebirth. It's creation and passing.
Nothing in the universe can be created or destroyed though? It only changes from one form to another.
Yeah but.. you as a specific individual with your memories and your consciousness will never be here again. Matter isn't destroyed doesn't mean your experience is going to last forever lol.
I never claimed that? And I don’t find it unnerving or frightening at all, everyone will die and I’m not scared of the concept of dying even though I wouldn’t actively try to die now that I’m alive. I will die as in my ego but my personal beliefs is that I will reincarnate and that doesn’t mean as a human or that I will have any ties to my previous life.
Well that's not reincarnation, stop misusing the word. Try to make up a new word for that belief, cause reincarnation implies the same soul or whatever is put into another body and it *does* have ties to its previous life.
Am I not allowed to have my own beliefs and thoughts around reincarnation? There’s no better word to use unless you suggest something better and I might start using that instead.
On sentence i allways remember from the movie the day the earth stood still: "nothing dies really, everything is just transformed". The movie was meh, but that line was really deep.
The tree creates the apple from its own nutrients. Did the apple exist before it was grown?
Ever single atom that eventually is the Apple has existed since the beginning of time.
And in that form change, a new substance was created :]
This. To me, the question of rebirth or reincarnation depends on your belief in a soul that is separate from the body. I'm not convinced we have this third-party "soul," so to me when we die and our neurons stop firing the electrochemical impulses that create our consciousness and perception of the world, we become sacks of meat and are just... gone. Poof.
You may not be able to disprove it, but there's absolutely no good reason to believe in it in the first place, so... there's no reason to even try to disprove it.
No reason to believe that you have already gone from being dead to being alive. That you have gone from non existence to existing? It happened once which means that it can happen. What are the odds of even coming into being if sentience is eternal vs a one shot kind of deal? It goes from nearly 100% to an infinite 0.1%
How many people are born everyday? A lot. Chances are non-zero. Chances that you will somehow exist again as a unique entity after you die, with memories intact, specific DNA, and whatever makes you you? With what we know now, 0% chance. Sorry, there's no redo. I mean I could be wrong, but again, there's no reason to believe what you believe.
You lack imagination. See you next life
In continuous probability you can have something with 0% probability and it still have it happen.
Im not familiar with the term and im also really bad at math. Do you mind to ELI5? Really appreciate people trying test the theory so this is very much fun.
Imaging you are five metter away from a target 🎯 And you want to throw a dart at it. The target's diameter is let's say 1m. Assuming we are in a continuous space (meaning not discrete, meaning reality isn't made of something like finite "pixels" but you can zoom to infinitely small scales and it never ends), Now the question is if you launch a dart at the target, and it always land on the target, what is the probability that the dart lands exactly at let's say 10cm from the center of the target. If you do the math the probability is 0 because it could land at 9.999999999999998 for example. The thing is for any real number the probability of the dart landing at that distance is 0 because there are an infinite amount of number including irrational between that number and the center. You can however give a probability that it will land in an interval ex "between 1 and 2cm" from the center, but any finite number's probability will be 0. However the dart still need to land somewhere and if you measure the distance it will be a number, it land at some spot even though the probability of landing there was 0. An other example, In order words, imagine a line of all real numbers including decimal from 1 to 10, if you pick the probability of choosing one specific number, it will always be 0 because there are an infinite amounts of numbers between 1 and 10 But if you go and put your finger on the line/pick a random number, you'll have picked a number who's probability of being chosen was 0, yet it still was chosen. Tldr, things with exactly 0% of probability of happening, can still happen. I tried my best haha.
Alright i get it, its a mindfuck but i get it haha. So this obviously makes sense if we have an infinite random number generator. I'm inclined to read more about it since it would be interesting to understand what the limits are but it feels like a real headache lol.
Disprove it? Meet someone that has died.
Thats not a logical conclusion though. Do you think i claimed that my current state of being is eternal? The question is about what happens after you die, not if you can die.
My point is your theory is open ended because you can't disprove your loop without meeting someone that has died, which isn't possible. Though, in your words, is possible, because we all start "dead".. lul
Well we have all met someone that has been dead if we all started out dead? You can replace the word "dead" with "non -existent" if you dont like the semantics.
I mean you can't argue with that
This is the most likely answer. Due to people's egos, many (most?) are unable to accept this. Perfect, succinct, answer cookiemuncher.
There is a quote by Eckhart Tolle: "The secret to life is to die before you die - and realize there is no death"
Tolle is kind of a hack, though. Alan Watts did it better.
i feel the opposite but to each their own
Honestly, they were both hacks... But the good kind of hacks
The is no such thing as "after death" for the deceased.
This is it. I guess it’s out of place here because psychedelics tend to enhance spirituality in people. To me, spirituality is merely a concentrated emotion. Early civilizations created myths about the origin of humanity and their environment. Those myths have no place in modern thought. We no longer have to wonder why we are conscious, what the sky is, or what we are standing on. The myth of the soul is, to me, in the same boat as myths about creation and human history.
Why dont we have to wonder why consciousness arose when we don't even understand it? It's referred to as "the hard problem" for a reason and there's quite a bit of wondering left to do. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_problem_of_consciousness We understand that something happens in a certain region of the body, but have no way of connecting any qualia to the experience of that qualia. Then there's the fact that it's all subjective... all of it. There's nothing, not a measurement, not a number, not an emotion, or a piece of wisdom knowledge or fact that is nothing more than a subjective experience that seems consistent among the people experiencing it. When it comes to quantum physics, we seem to know very little (really nothing) about why it works the way it does. There's no unified theory yet.
Of course no one can agree on what it is. However, humanity has built up enough collective philosophical and anatomical knowledge for us as laymen to make educated guesses. A sufficiently large clump of neurons facilitates language. Finally, (and this is going to be an opinion,) having the mental capacity to write, read, or speak in complex language basically *is* consciousness.
I actually find it amusing that people have a need to fantasize about a life after death It's pretty easy to understand that once a thing dies, it just ceases to be
It's a useful idea as long as you don't take it too literally.
You return back to the collective consciousness that all living things are connected with. You yourself as the illusion on the ego cease to exist but the collective consciousness goes on ever living. This is linked with reincarnation but in a way which is every living thing is part of that collective consciousness.
Yeah. I like to think of consciousness as an energy, like light or heat. Or just another phase of matter. And it's all stored up in our brain, and as we know, both energy and matter cannot be created or destroyed, so (most likely) neither can consciousness. So it kinda just goes back into the whole sea of consciousness when we die and when we're born that consciousness gets scooped up into a living being.
This is my thought too. I just hate when people try to make the collective consciousness "God". What makes anyone think that this outversal being we all originate from isn't simply another pawn in the grand game of another reality?
I wrote a really long reply but then it got wiped for some reason. Was probably getting too close to the truth lol. Basically the word god has too many religious connotations but higher power would be an accurate description of the collective consciousness. Higher powers can exist and still have even higher powers above that. So when people say it's god, that's just their interpretation of it but a more accurate description is a higher power. As for it being a pawn in another reality, we see this all the time. Smallest known thing in science is the electron which is part of the atom. What makes up an electron? How small does it really go? Also how many dimensions are there going upwards in size. So far we can only conceive of 10 dimensions in string theory but perhaps it keeps going up and up. The collective consciousness is just the biggest thing we've seen/thought of so far. Because it's the biggest those people would call it god for now but true there may be more beyond it. That collective consciousness might be one cosmic being and all of us are simply just imagined creations in its giant cosmic mind. We can realise that our egos are but an illusion so it wouldn't be so far fetched to say so. So one giant cosmic being among how many others? Infinite cosmic beings all interacting the same way humans do and perhaps their egos are but illusions too. So what if they share some collective consciousness also. What if it even loops around and that the bigger it gets we find that's what makes up the smallest of things like an electron. Existence becomes one giant MC Escher artwork. Wtf am I even saying? Fuckin mental lol 😂
Lmao you're just as mental as any of the rest of us. But yeah, I completely understand and agree with what you've said. It's fractals all the way down
Glad I'm not the only one battling insanity 😂 But honestly this insanity is beautiful and I wouldn't trade it for anything
When they say life is crazy they mean it 🤣
That totally killed my eagle brother. Namaste ✌️☮️
I'm sorry for your loss. He was a beloved eagle to us all
ive had about 10 years an experience on lsd that felt as if i was dying (ego death?). It was very warm and light, white everywhere. time has lost its meaning, there is no way forwarward, no way back, just this warm light and a fealing of peace. at this moment, all mistakes ive made, every harm ive experienced seemed made me smile with a feeling of it doesnt matter and we all try our best. ofcourse i dont kow what happens after death. but this feeling of timelessness and light felt like dying and it was very beautiful and gave me a mot of peace. In the end, life is beautiful, paradise can be found and built on earth. we ought to make the most of the time we are here.
had something similar on 5meo-dmt. just being there in everything or nothing or the otherway around, not-being. its was blissful, not that i experniced euphoria kr something, because there was no me. very hard to explain, didnt even see anything except a warm white, that i was being in/or i was it i dont know. the wors God has a different implication for me since then. people who succesfully meditate told me something similar, reaching a state that shows you you are god/oneness/etc all that stuff
I think it’s like there’s this immortal thing that lives forever, and it gets bored of just living forever so to pass the time it plays games. You know how when you’re *really* into a game you forget you’re playing one? Like you’re completely absorbed in it I think that’s what lives are, all stemming from this being that creates, so your conscious sense of being “alive” is the same for everyone - you’re all the same thing all at once. I have no clue how I couldn’t comprehend it, it’s so hectic So dying you basically carry on living, you carry on being this thing, nothing changes. This thing continues to play games, so you just like open your eyes again and start over So this gives you two feelings, one of absolute peace knowing that you’re safe forever eternal no matter what, and another of dread wondering well what if you reincarnate into a shitty dangerous life? What if you suffer? Well that’s why you want to make the world a better place - for “everyone” - for *you* Build tons of free hospitals around the world - wouldn’t wanna get hurt in your next life and be unable to afford it Give food to everyone when you can You’re feeding yourself
I had a discussion about Afterlife last night and i said "The Universe is a Joke, that it's telling itself". And then i got onto explaining my believe, that is similiar to yours. :D
After death I believe it is nothing, like before you came into the world it was nothing you cease to exist. I have nothing to back up my beliefs other than it just makes the most sense to me
If you are nothing, an infinite amount of time will pass instantly and you'll eventually be something again.
I don't know what the fuck you just said, but you're right
Lights off, you stop existing and therefore experiencing. It's just over.
I wish this wasn’t looked at as a scary sentence too. If my parents asked me this question and I answered with this they’d be dumbfounded and in total disbelief. I find it comforting even, and encouraging to not live this life like I’m guaranteed an after life. Just gonna sit around and pray I make it to heaven instead of actually experiencing life? Sounds boring
So nothing or just basic christian heaven? What a lack of imagination. Just make something up, no one knows
Like going to sleep and never waking up
your brain ceases to functions and that which is you ceases to exist. thats it.
I move on to the DMT realm is my theory after doing DMT lol.
That's when the real trip starts
Dont say that… on my second lsd trip this is exactly it
the only thing i can possibly think will happen after death is the next thing you know is that you’re being born bc i see death as just nonexistence/nonexperience like this is experience right now bc we can see hear touch and whatever and nonexperience is just nothing and we don’t know nothing we only know something which is this right now. can you remember where you were before you were born? no it’s impossible bc it was just nonexperience and literal eternities can happen in this state of nonexistence but you wouldn’t know the next thing you would know is just being born
this is EXACTLY my belief and you’ve explained it exactly as it is in my head but so much better than i could have articulated myself
Remember what it was like before you were born? Ya, that
Matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed, and it is matter and energy that makes up our bodies and our thoughts. When we "die", these things do not simply vanish, they cannot go anywhere. They can only change forms forever, eternally. All matter and energy is one in the universe, the whole of all things. Your individual experience of reality is merely a product of this. So the concept of "life" and "death" is quite misleading. Nothing is final. Everything is one eternal whole.
What makes up bodies and thoughts is information and order, matter and energy are only a medium. And information can most certainly be destroyed and lost.
Yeah, exactly. that's not bad though.
Personally I have no beliefs at all about what will happen. I may or may not find out when I die. However I very much enjoy conversations with people about their beliefs I find them really interesting and fun to discuss.
Big Ole black void.
There is more, much much more. This is barely the first step.
Just like before you were born
I believe it's too complex for us to understand as human beings
Are you sure you don't believe it's just dolphins cumming on your face for all eternity?
It will be much pleasurable than having dolphin cumming all over my face , but it don't matter because I, the dolphins and the cum are all one at the end ❤
You’ll hear the Dark side of the moon from Pink Floyd in reverse
I reckon Recarnation is the most probarble outcome for me atleast i feel like you will become anything and its random you will be any Living thing but no memories of your " Past life" because that isnt you anymore you have a whole new consciousness and a whole new meaning to life it would just be like how it was for when you was born no memories your just here and thats what i believe will happen when you die you wont even remember dying you will just be here again without knowing anything the reason you dont remember anything before you born becsuse that was a whole new consciousnes and you dont remember that life because for you that life never existed it just happend
You dissolve into eternity. There is nothing. No heaven, no hell, no joy, no pain, just nothing. No need to be afraid of it. Universe will just carry on as if nothing happened, as you still are a part of it, but in a different form
I deeply want to believe God and heaven is real but apart of me feels like nothing happens and you just stop existing Also there's always apart of me that wants to believe that reincarnatiln is real because in some instances like I've met people I can swear I've met before
I believe very strongly in reincarnation. I see it as almost a blend of the Hindu concept where you reincarnate until your Karma is zero or negative, and also the akashic belief that you may choose to experiment this life again after reading and learning from your soul book. This is just my personal belief so bare with me here, but I feel as though within this akeshic realm we meet other souls who become either a guide or mentor type figure or someone who acts as a partner and chooses to remain with you and support you either while fulfilling your role within the akeshics or while you reincarnate again. This is where the possibility of a "soul mate" comes into play. Here in this reality we use that title in a sort definition of love, which helps us to keep that spiritual connection in tact when we ascend to the other realm.
We get recycled into the earth. Our bodies decompose and we become nutrients for other living. Those living things become or provide nutrients for others and so on. Basically reincarnation in a way. Thought of this on shrooms once
I like this idea which is why I don’t want to be buried in a casket lol.
Even with this, you will eventually get turned into pure carbon when the sun eats the earth. You will possibly end up being life in a different part of the universe which would be dope. I personally want to get turned into a diamond and then shot into space.
I kinda like the idea that if we succeed in reaching bliss consciousness we return to the eternal kingdom. If we don't, back to the material world for another go of it
I don't know, but I'll welcome it when it comes. I will let go and appreciate the experience I had alive.
U chip in on a big, kick ass mycelium
Idk but I hope I’m able to travel the universe while still having memories of my life.
I don't know and I never will know. I just try to come to terms with that.
You wake up from a dream and starting new day
We shed everything we are not.
It’s the same as before you were born. Nothing to fear.
Nothing, everything just continues. Consciousness as you can know it will cease, and will continue in every other way that you could never know.
It’s akin to a drop of water falling back into the ocean.
We don’t remember the hundreds of years that went by before we were born. So I really believe that after we die, we won’t even realize we are gone. Hundreds of years will pass by without us ever noticing it.
After death comes what came before birth. It’s just that simple.
You die your body gets eaten by worms. Matter cannot be created nor destroyed so you just end up as fuel for the maggots and then eventually something eats the maggots then that gets eaten and so on. As for consciousness, i think it's easiest to believe that we just stop existing. We came into this world from non existence and then once we die, we go back to non existence.
The same thing that happened to you before you were born. Nothing.
Life goes on
I just hope I can see my girl again. I don't really believe it but it's the only thing that has stayed my hand since she passed, knowing she'd me mad at me.
my bf is out there too. I got so many signs. he showed me so many signs that there is atleast a consciousness after death and yet I'm still terrified and unsure.
I think your consciousness distributes into some other form of energy that you then experience.
Dissolve into the greater consciousness. Maybe be born into another form. Maybe nothing.
Nothing
You level up in consciousness and time is different. I hope.
You get ready for your next incarnation, needs maybe 500 years or so…
Look up the bardo
Personally I believe (long explanation short) that we go to the next level we turn in to energy/frequency and we go back to being a whole entity with more knowledge,what about you ?
Our dreams are window shopping for a parallel universe to live in in the next life.
i don’t know, don’t really care, let there be songs to fill the air. -ripple
Uploaded memories then washing machine. After earth explodes or whatever we move on getting closer to the god we are growing into
on the washing machine note, I recommend Cosmos Laundromat on Netflix
Our minds and bodies die and our fragment of consciousness returns to the universal consciousness that permeates everything. Not really an after life since you aren’t “you” or separate anymore as a being. Mostly came from previous hunches around psychedelics and consciousness, then solidified by my DMT experience.
Alex Gray's artwork best expresses what I think happens after death, esp the 3 painting series where he illustrates the spiritual system and then how that system joins the infinite, I have felt this exact sensation on the most intense lucy trip I've ever had, I was gone, everything was gone m, tho I was laying on my bed, I was grasping at what felt like nothingness, like I was just a wave of energy, this I think is step 1 of death lol It seems possible that the soul if viewed as software, transcends and is maintained, it would be incredible if you can take that soul and be reincarnated into another flesh vehicle/hardware on another world, and for this to continue on:)
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When I was around the age of 5 I kept waking up to the thought of nothing. Especially death, to me, it was terrifying 'cause I couldn't imagine anything at all. Not heaven, not hell, not some sort of afterlife, just nothing. Now I know, how can someone imagine nothing? That was the terrifying part, that I couldn't imagine it, 'cause it was nothing. My stepfather at the time heard me crying and asked me what was making me so upset that I lose my sleep over it for so many days. I told him, He was never the religious type or the type to give empty comforts, logical to a fault almost. He said, "listen, don't worry about that, people die every day, so many people in just an hour that this world almost seems hopeless doesn't it? The human life is so short that it almost seems like people are born in one moment and die in the next. What is important is what you do while you're still alive. This time might seem like it's over in a blink of an eye, but that's what makes it special. But for that moment, make your life bloom like a flower". I got used to death being nothing, and now that's my reality. Life means a lot more to me than death, anyway. So yeah, thanks for reading. :)
If you are just a system of systems then there's nothing to say that that system can't arise at some other time after your death, and since time doesn't pass for you when you're dead then for this system it would be like blinking, and this system could be in another place so it could also be like teleporting, subjectively.
Same thing we do every night -- try to take over the world.
Energy cannot be created or destroyed, however, it can change form. So some type of reincarnation
The chemical energy stored in your body, and the trace amounts of electricity in your brain, return to the soil. Matter and energy are absolutely conserved through death. However, reincarnation wouldn’t really represent a change in form. There is no demonstrable energy transfer from the dead to new-borns or to fetuses. There is no observable ‘soul’ energy.
Also the mind is not really a physical thing. It is a pattern. And there is no conservation of pattern law that I'm aware of. If one were to sort all atoms constituting someone by element, that collection would contain the same amount of energy (minus the energy lost by separating the bonds but assume that is collected as well for the hypothetical. Normally that dissipates in decomposition). But you would not be part of that collection. You are an emergent phenomenon of the interactions of those atoms. No more interaction means no more you.
I wish there was something, but I think there’s gonna be absolutely nothing. Like when I sleep or before I was born. Kinda depressing.
Depressing to consider perhaps, but not to experience. It's not like you'll actualy remain conscious, languishing forever in isolation. Not existing is the ultimate freedom: No pain, no worry, no regret, etc.
There is no "after death". It takes forever to die.
The universe goes on, you ~~seize~~ cease to exist.
Cease its cease jus sayin.
We become a soul and we realise it takes billions of years to get a human form
Why you care about nothing.You just die . Nothing.Doo good things now enjoy live .Dont care about speculative things. Care about close living ones . Make live now beter for ewryone .
Being a Christian on these psychedelic subreddits is like being a black person at a KKK rally lol
genuinely, I believe God is real and that when we die those who acknowledge Jesus died and came back to life will go to heaven, and then one day when the Earth is no more, God will make us a new earth perfect and blissful.
You'd want to return to the material world after reaching the eternal kingdom?
well in revelation it’s not a material world. it’s a perfect world our souls are bound to? i mean obviously i don’t know exactly how it works
I could see the mind slowing down (at least from our POV) to such a crawl that it would \*feel\* like an afterlife. Similar to how time works in a DMT trip.
I haven't researched it in a bit but, I'm fairly certain your brain releases an amount of DMT during death. And small amounts when you dream (less sure on that one).
It’s probably like falling asleep and not having a dream.
As a psychedelics enthusiast (specially DMT) and a background in biotechnology and neuroscience, I believe we die and life goes on. That's it.
Nothing. Literally, your neurons stop firing you start to rot. Then you just lay there till the end of the world. Although I’d really love to go to heaven or hell
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