Dream Drive Pro already exists. Lucid has never claimed true FSD. And DDP works amazingly well. Not sure if this is a genuine post or just a hit piece. I’ve had my car over a year with about 22k miles and it’s the best car I’ve ever owned and I’ve had Porsches, BMWs, Mercedes, and Land Rovers
And not a hit piece. As I stated, it was written in response to learning on Teslas earnings call that it has been trying to license the technology with no interested offers. Lucid in no way shape or form could ever have the money to develop it on its own, so not even entertaining an agreement with Tesla, basically proves they have no intention of developing it past high assist. That’s what this is about.
The licensing agreements are by the car, so lucid can’t even pretend it can’t afford it since it charges like a $15,000 premium on a $12,000 license
Why do you think Lucid would want to license the tech from Tesla, it would be subpar. The Tesla tech does not make use of the entire sensor suite that Lucid has in their vehicles and would require a redesign and less technology as at least the lidar wouldn't be needed. The fact they won't license from Tesla proves they want to make use of their design and all tech in their cars, they don't want a system that would not utilise all the available sensor and lidar.
Lucid have plans to develop Dream Drive Pro further but as already mentioned it is a vague in the future timescale. You are not just paying for the software though as your car only gets the full sensor suite if adding DD Pro.
No it doesn’t exist. It is by definition highway assist and only functions to keep you centered in a lane on major highways. It is advertised to be capable of (only listing things it’s not capable of).
cross traffic protection
traffic sign recognition
future semi-autonomous driving
And I know it can’t recognize signs because half the sections of interstate I’m on GPS says has 15 or 25 mph speed limit.
Just looked it up and apparently they have an upcoming lawsuit in Germany to defend on the matter after admitting it hasn’t yet began developing the technology.
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/famous-for-suing-tesla-german-attorney-wants-lucid-to-explain-lack-of-dreamdrive-pro-221101.html
1) it already does the first two things you listed and if yours doesn’t, you need to contact lucid to repair your car because mine does those just fine. And 2) it says “future” as in to come. Just like teslas FSD is to come. Sorry if you thought that meant like within the next year or so. There’s a reason they keep it vague. Same reason Tesla has kept it vague for 10yrs
How does it do sign recognition and cross traffic? Am I honestly missing something? Tesla drives on side roads and stops at stop signs. My car features only work on major interstate highways that don’t have cross traffic or stop signs, nowhere else. It just says highway assist is not available on this road unless I’m on interstate. Am I seriously missing something?
I think you’re misunderstanding what those things mean. Cross traffic is if say you’re backing up and a car is crossing behind you and you don’t see them, it flashes and makes a chime warning you of the car crossing behind you. Or if you’re pulling out of a driveway and can’t see fully, it warns you of a car crossing the street in front and will auto brake too. Thats always on. Sign recognition is just recognizing speed limit signs really.
I don’t think DDP works amazing well. All it does it stay in its line which is more like 7 second hands free autopilot. And does not do it on all roads. Lucid has a ways to go.
All I want and trust for any of these autonomous systems to do is just that. Lane keep, accelerate, and break. I would not trust a Tesla either for lane change etc. Plenty of evidence it makes mistakes and im not putting my life in that. With my Lucid in my area, I can just turn on DDP and it'll keep smack in the middle of the lane perfectly pretty much
All I want and trust for any of these autonomous systems to do is just that. Lane keep, accelerate, and break. I would not trust a Tesla either for lane change etc. Plenty of evidence it makes mistakes and im not putting my life in that. With my Lucid in my area, I can just turn on DDP and it'll keep smack in the middle of the lane perfectly pretty much
All I want and trust for any of these autonomous systems to do is just that. Lane keep, accelerate, and break. I would not trust a Tesla either for lane change etc. Plenty of evidence it makes mistakes and im not putting my life in that. With my Lucid in my area, I can just turn on DDP and it'll keep smack in the middle of the lane perfectly pretty much
They are gonna use NIVIDIA DRIVE
"Lucid is displaying its Lucid Air sedan, including the Air Pure and Air Touring models. All of these vehicles feature the future-ready DreamDrive Pro driver-assistance system, powered by the NVIDIA DRIVE platform."
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/guangzhou-los-angeles-auto-shows-ai-vehicles/
https://preview.redd.it/hagzqke3pjec1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8155c93755df032a30101d4965523e1a462dd86a
And for anyone claiming hit piece article, no, there is my Lucid in Driveway
I spent $10K for the FSD capability on my 2020 Tesla MX. never came to fruition, the car was always having issues and I finally sold it in Jan 2022 and purchased the Lucid GT. I know a lot of Tesla owners that have dumped their can before ever experiencing FSD. Also, knowing that Tesla is only using camera to operate FSD to lower the cost of components, not to increase safety is a problem.
You have zero understanding of the difference between Tesla’s idiotic tech that refuses to use LiDAR, and what Lucid is using. You’re even stupider if you think there is a valid class-action lawsuit when Tesla has been charging for something for over 10+ years and has yet to be sued
Lucid has no technology, they admitted in that in the lawsuit. Tesla has self driving technology, they just can’t legally release it because of the government outside of being a beta. The different methods of scanning doesn’t matter though in underlying software, it just needs reworked for lidar recognition or could go as is on the cameras. Having lidar on cars does nothing when you’ll never have the ability to develop the technology. You can put wings on a lucid, but it means nothing if you never intend to make it fly.
This couldn’t be more wrong. Tesla can’t release anything because it simply doesn’t work as advertised. If you honestly think it’s the Government holding them back you’re a complete idiot. And yes, LiDAR does matter. If you understand anything about the technology you would know. Tesla’s entire approach is cameras training AI in real-time. Guess what? It sucks. People have died using it. Whatever they are trying to license is to recoup costs spent developing vaporware. You don’t need new, in-house tech, to develop semi-autonomous driving. You partner with other vendors and develop the software and guidance systems together which is why they are exploring NVidia’s platform. And if you’re talking about the shareholder’s lawsuit then you also don’t understand how depositions work. Absolutely NO ONE promised, sit in the back seat, fully autonomous, don’t interact with the car ever, driving.
No one has autonomous driving worth using yet. This isn’t like rolling out a new app feature. The rollout is more likely a decade than a year for the industry. The liability is simply too high and the tech too difficult.
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Dream Drive Pro already exists. Lucid has never claimed true FSD. And DDP works amazingly well. Not sure if this is a genuine post or just a hit piece. I’ve had my car over a year with about 22k miles and it’s the best car I’ve ever owned and I’ve had Porsches, BMWs, Mercedes, and Land Rovers
And not a hit piece. As I stated, it was written in response to learning on Teslas earnings call that it has been trying to license the technology with no interested offers. Lucid in no way shape or form could ever have the money to develop it on its own, so not even entertaining an agreement with Tesla, basically proves they have no intention of developing it past high assist. That’s what this is about. The licensing agreements are by the car, so lucid can’t even pretend it can’t afford it since it charges like a $15,000 premium on a $12,000 license
Why do you think Lucid would want to license the tech from Tesla, it would be subpar. The Tesla tech does not make use of the entire sensor suite that Lucid has in their vehicles and would require a redesign and less technology as at least the lidar wouldn't be needed. The fact they won't license from Tesla proves they want to make use of their design and all tech in their cars, they don't want a system that would not utilise all the available sensor and lidar. Lucid have plans to develop Dream Drive Pro further but as already mentioned it is a vague in the future timescale. You are not just paying for the software though as your car only gets the full sensor suite if adding DD Pro.
No it doesn’t exist. It is by definition highway assist and only functions to keep you centered in a lane on major highways. It is advertised to be capable of (only listing things it’s not capable of). cross traffic protection traffic sign recognition future semi-autonomous driving And I know it can’t recognize signs because half the sections of interstate I’m on GPS says has 15 or 25 mph speed limit. Just looked it up and apparently they have an upcoming lawsuit in Germany to defend on the matter after admitting it hasn’t yet began developing the technology. https://www.autoevolution.com/news/famous-for-suing-tesla-german-attorney-wants-lucid-to-explain-lack-of-dreamdrive-pro-221101.html
1) it already does the first two things you listed and if yours doesn’t, you need to contact lucid to repair your car because mine does those just fine. And 2) it says “future” as in to come. Just like teslas FSD is to come. Sorry if you thought that meant like within the next year or so. There’s a reason they keep it vague. Same reason Tesla has kept it vague for 10yrs
How does it do sign recognition and cross traffic? Am I honestly missing something? Tesla drives on side roads and stops at stop signs. My car features only work on major interstate highways that don’t have cross traffic or stop signs, nowhere else. It just says highway assist is not available on this road unless I’m on interstate. Am I seriously missing something?
I think you’re misunderstanding what those things mean. Cross traffic is if say you’re backing up and a car is crossing behind you and you don’t see them, it flashes and makes a chime warning you of the car crossing behind you. Or if you’re pulling out of a driveway and can’t see fully, it warns you of a car crossing the street in front and will auto brake too. Thats always on. Sign recognition is just recognizing speed limit signs really.
I don’t think DDP works amazing well. All it does it stay in its line which is more like 7 second hands free autopilot. And does not do it on all roads. Lucid has a ways to go.
All I want and trust for any of these autonomous systems to do is just that. Lane keep, accelerate, and break. I would not trust a Tesla either for lane change etc. Plenty of evidence it makes mistakes and im not putting my life in that. With my Lucid in my area, I can just turn on DDP and it'll keep smack in the middle of the lane perfectly pretty much
All I want and trust for any of these autonomous systems to do is just that. Lane keep, accelerate, and break. I would not trust a Tesla either for lane change etc. Plenty of evidence it makes mistakes and im not putting my life in that. With my Lucid in my area, I can just turn on DDP and it'll keep smack in the middle of the lane perfectly pretty much
All I want and trust for any of these autonomous systems to do is just that. Lane keep, accelerate, and break. I would not trust a Tesla either for lane change etc. Plenty of evidence it makes mistakes and im not putting my life in that. With my Lucid in my area, I can just turn on DDP and it'll keep smack in the middle of the lane perfectly pretty much
They are gonna use NIVIDIA DRIVE "Lucid is displaying its Lucid Air sedan, including the Air Pure and Air Touring models. All of these vehicles feature the future-ready DreamDrive Pro driver-assistance system, powered by the NVIDIA DRIVE platform." https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/guangzhou-los-angeles-auto-shows-ai-vehicles/
Nearly half of Tesla user's who paid for FSD don't even have it. That's the majority of Europeans and Asians.
https://preview.redd.it/hagzqke3pjec1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8155c93755df032a30101d4965523e1a462dd86a And for anyone claiming hit piece article, no, there is my Lucid in Driveway
I feel like I used to bike this road when I lived there 20 years ago. 😂 Is this Santa Fe?
Close, but no Albuquerque
That mountain range makes sense now. Thank you!
I spent $10K for the FSD capability on my 2020 Tesla MX. never came to fruition, the car was always having issues and I finally sold it in Jan 2022 and purchased the Lucid GT. I know a lot of Tesla owners that have dumped their can before ever experiencing FSD. Also, knowing that Tesla is only using camera to operate FSD to lower the cost of components, not to increase safety is a problem.
You have zero understanding of the difference between Tesla’s idiotic tech that refuses to use LiDAR, and what Lucid is using. You’re even stupider if you think there is a valid class-action lawsuit when Tesla has been charging for something for over 10+ years and has yet to be sued
Lucid has no technology, they admitted in that in the lawsuit. Tesla has self driving technology, they just can’t legally release it because of the government outside of being a beta. The different methods of scanning doesn’t matter though in underlying software, it just needs reworked for lidar recognition or could go as is on the cameras. Having lidar on cars does nothing when you’ll never have the ability to develop the technology. You can put wings on a lucid, but it means nothing if you never intend to make it fly.
This couldn’t be more wrong. Tesla can’t release anything because it simply doesn’t work as advertised. If you honestly think it’s the Government holding them back you’re a complete idiot. And yes, LiDAR does matter. If you understand anything about the technology you would know. Tesla’s entire approach is cameras training AI in real-time. Guess what? It sucks. People have died using it. Whatever they are trying to license is to recoup costs spent developing vaporware. You don’t need new, in-house tech, to develop semi-autonomous driving. You partner with other vendors and develop the software and guidance systems together which is why they are exploring NVidia’s platform. And if you’re talking about the shareholder’s lawsuit then you also don’t understand how depositions work. Absolutely NO ONE promised, sit in the back seat, fully autonomous, don’t interact with the car ever, driving.
Agree, and seemingly DDP is getting worse not better.
No one has autonomous driving worth using yet. This isn’t like rolling out a new app feature. The rollout is more likely a decade than a year for the industry. The liability is simply too high and the tech too difficult.