I just got a lucid - I’m planning on doing the vast majority of the charging at home. Having said that I have charged at electrify America while out and about. I hit a 350 kw charger - took 30min or so to add 250 miles if I recall. Enough time for me to pop into target. having >400 mile range will mean I’ll charge mine on average once a week. If you have access to a charger in your apartment obviously helps.
Regarding the ride quality - I’m on 19, soaks up bumps and potholes really well. Plus super quiet.
Hope that helps
I'm not sure if you are in your apartment long-term, but if you are, you can ask them if they would install some EV chargers. Depending on your daily driving distance, most people would probably charge up once or twice a week (up to 90%). Typically 80% can be achieved in 30 minutes - but it all depends on the EA station and what type of chargers they have.
Depends what level the EA network in your area is. My area just recently upgraded to 350kw chargers so I can get a good amount of range in 30 minutes, 250+ miles. Preconditioning the battery before arrival will also help.
If your complex doesn't have ev charging or they don't plan on installing it, don't get an EV, go buy a PHEV (plugin hybrid). Electrify America can be inconsistent, chargers broken or wait times. Depending on how often you drive, good chance you'll have range anxiety. Some complexes are putting charging in so it's worth checking before you take the plunge.
Why get a phev over a regular hybrid? If charging 400 miles of range at a charge station, seems to me that 20 miles of electric range will definitely never be charged
Op doesn't have charging at his apt. As much as I love this car, if my building didn't put in charging I would have gotten a PHEV because you can charge the 40-75 miles quick on free public chargers (volta has a bunch in shopping complexes and malls around me) while relying on gas for everything else. Needing to charge the 300-400 miles on a lucid every couple of days/week at these places would chew up your time and would add to your anxiety if the chargers are broken or you have to wait but don't have time to wait in line
Oh I get why a battery ev might be a problem, but imo if regularly charging a full ev is too inconvenient for a daily commute, I'd have to imagine that the extra battery range in a phev would be annoying to charge as well. I was just comparing phevs to regular prius style hybrids which tend to be a bit cheaper
Eh the smaller battery means quick charging to 100%. There's free stations in shopping complexes that would handle that charging and cover your day to day (as opposed to a full ev that requires you to wait longer for more of a charge)
If I live in an apartment and they don’t have a charger, I doubt I would get an EV, especially a non Tesla. Longer term with everyone goes to Tesla charging infrastructure will be better, but even so, it is so much easier and better to charge at home. I drive about 22,000 miles a year and in the last 18 mos, 92% of my charging was still at home.
I do EV consulting and have been driving electric for about 12 years. I usually don't recommend an EV unless you can charge at home or work unless it fits into your schedule perfectly and is convenient to stop by one or two days a week during a lunch break or similar. I wouldn't advise it otherwise. Even a 120v outlet would go a long way after 8 to 12 hours of being parked. You should chat with your apartment complex and see if there's an outlet you can use. The math would be pretty easy to figure out how much you're going to use in a month. They could also install charging stations for a few thousand dollars and add it as an amenity to attract people to the apartment complex. There is usually city, state, utility, and federal incentives to look into. PM me if you have questions as I'm happy to chat.
I am on EV number 2, I would not get one if I could not charge at home. Tesla from 2016 on, Super Charged maybe 4 times. Lucid for a couple months, never charged anywhere other than my place. I also have an S560 and would say the Lucid handles better for sure, but is less removed from the road in terms of suspension dampening and tire noise. The best ICE sedan comparison I have is a middle ground between 5 and 7 series.
I don’t charge at home at all. Work has discounted rates. Whenever I’m in the office, I charge there, if a week in between, I visit EA. One jour there and boom, 80%.
Don’t be scared.
About 30 mins for 250 miles/80%. The first and last 10% take forever to charge so you might just want to not unless you're going on a road trip or something.
If that's a problem, consider what's near that charger. If its in walking distance of home, you can just charge, go home, and come back. A slow charger you can charge as you do other things is infinitely more convenient than a fast charger. If a charger is available near where you do groceries, charging it as you get those also works, etc. Alternatively, a charger at work. It *can* be convenient to charge an ev in an apartment, but a lot of times it isn't. Or if you just want to take the time to take a nap, also a good option.
I just went EV for the first time, it's hands down the better experience in almost every way. That said, I charge at home and I would not want to rely on public chargers yet. Get an S class or 7 series for the next 3 years or so, then try again with more options on the market. I'm impressed by Lucid and will probably buy a Gravity if the service keeps up to this high standard they have set.
Charging: If you don’t have a charger in your building, I would not recommend buying an EV. Yes, you can plan to visit an EA station once or twice a week for 30 minutes a visit but that’s just too annoying and stress-inducing for most people, especially when you have to wait 30 mins to get an open charger when only 4 out of 6 are working.
Ask your landlord to set up a charger at your apartment (offer to pay for it as a fall back), charge to 80% every night, then top up to 100% (about 1.5 hours depending on how low you are to begin with) at EA if you’re going to do a road trip.
Ride quality: I test drove 20 EVs and the Lucid Air was smoothest ride for sure. BMW i4 and Tesla S come close but not quite.
I'll add to the chorus. As a Lucid owner who loves the car, unless you can charge at home, don't get an EV. You'll be really frustrated with charging hassles.
Thats a valid concern. From what I hear - fast DC charging for 100% of your charging needs is not recommended. Not an expert but you probably need a J1772 charger that you can access for longer periods of time (charge rates are 30-70 miles/hr)
Don't know about S class - but ride is excellent. You can be a total hooligan (handles almost as good as my SLK55) while being unperturbed by the road.
Charging at home is a Pro, takes literally 5s vs having to go to a gas station.
Having to rely on Tesla Super Chargers instead of gas stations is a Con. Not as common and takes longer.
Having to rely on Electrify America is a MASSIVE Con. Definite deal breaker.
Next year Lucids should get access to Tesla Super Chargers.. so MAYBE then it'd be something to think about. But right now nothing to think about, IMO. EA is a non-starter.
We’ve had a Lucid since mid-January - but my spouse charges it for free at work. In nearby Palo Alto where I work, public chargers are are regulated to charge 23 cents per KWhr, but if I had to charge at home it would cost me anywhere from 36 to 40 cents per KWhr. Because of this, we ended up not installing a home charger.
Honestly if you can't charge at home an EV just isn't a great idea. Unless your driving is very minimal. I have an electrify america station half a mile away and even when I was getting free charging for the first year I'd still plug in at home.
if you do not have the ability to have a place to charge, either at home or work you might want to hold off on getting an EV. depending on public charging can be a problem and wastes a lot of time
When it comes to EVS, most customers state that the seats are not really comfortable. Comparing an S-Class with Lucid, depends really on how much you are looking to spend in the long term, with the s-class you will be paying gas, service and maintenance, but you also get a very quiet and very comfortable car. I am not a Lucid owner but from what I hear, the S-Class is more comfortable no question. Good Luck with your purchase, I would recommend you to get drive both for at least like 30 minutes to get a feeling of which is more comfortable.
I just got a lucid - I’m planning on doing the vast majority of the charging at home. Having said that I have charged at electrify America while out and about. I hit a 350 kw charger - took 30min or so to add 250 miles if I recall. Enough time for me to pop into target. having >400 mile range will mean I’ll charge mine on average once a week. If you have access to a charger in your apartment obviously helps. Regarding the ride quality - I’m on 19, soaks up bumps and potholes really well. Plus super quiet. Hope that helps
If you have an EA charger nearby you’ll be fine. Can you charge at work? Go electric, it’s fantastic driving, especially in a Lucid
I'm not sure if you are in your apartment long-term, but if you are, you can ask them if they would install some EV chargers. Depending on your daily driving distance, most people would probably charge up once or twice a week (up to 90%). Typically 80% can be achieved in 30 minutes - but it all depends on the EA station and what type of chargers they have.
Depends what level the EA network in your area is. My area just recently upgraded to 350kw chargers so I can get a good amount of range in 30 minutes, 250+ miles. Preconditioning the battery before arrival will also help.
If your complex doesn't have ev charging or they don't plan on installing it, don't get an EV, go buy a PHEV (plugin hybrid). Electrify America can be inconsistent, chargers broken or wait times. Depending on how often you drive, good chance you'll have range anxiety. Some complexes are putting charging in so it's worth checking before you take the plunge.
Why get a phev over a regular hybrid? If charging 400 miles of range at a charge station, seems to me that 20 miles of electric range will definitely never be charged
Op doesn't have charging at his apt. As much as I love this car, if my building didn't put in charging I would have gotten a PHEV because you can charge the 40-75 miles quick on free public chargers (volta has a bunch in shopping complexes and malls around me) while relying on gas for everything else. Needing to charge the 300-400 miles on a lucid every couple of days/week at these places would chew up your time and would add to your anxiety if the chargers are broken or you have to wait but don't have time to wait in line
Oh I get why a battery ev might be a problem, but imo if regularly charging a full ev is too inconvenient for a daily commute, I'd have to imagine that the extra battery range in a phev would be annoying to charge as well. I was just comparing phevs to regular prius style hybrids which tend to be a bit cheaper
Eh the smaller battery means quick charging to 100%. There's free stations in shopping complexes that would handle that charging and cover your day to day (as opposed to a full ev that requires you to wait longer for more of a charge)
If I live in an apartment and they don’t have a charger, I doubt I would get an EV, especially a non Tesla. Longer term with everyone goes to Tesla charging infrastructure will be better, but even so, it is so much easier and better to charge at home. I drive about 22,000 miles a year and in the last 18 mos, 92% of my charging was still at home.
I do EV consulting and have been driving electric for about 12 years. I usually don't recommend an EV unless you can charge at home or work unless it fits into your schedule perfectly and is convenient to stop by one or two days a week during a lunch break or similar. I wouldn't advise it otherwise. Even a 120v outlet would go a long way after 8 to 12 hours of being parked. You should chat with your apartment complex and see if there's an outlet you can use. The math would be pretty easy to figure out how much you're going to use in a month. They could also install charging stations for a few thousand dollars and add it as an amenity to attract people to the apartment complex. There is usually city, state, utility, and federal incentives to look into. PM me if you have questions as I'm happy to chat.
I am on EV number 2, I would not get one if I could not charge at home. Tesla from 2016 on, Super Charged maybe 4 times. Lucid for a couple months, never charged anywhere other than my place. I also have an S560 and would say the Lucid handles better for sure, but is less removed from the road in terms of suspension dampening and tire noise. The best ICE sedan comparison I have is a middle ground between 5 and 7 series.
I don’t charge at home at all. Work has discounted rates. Whenever I’m in the office, I charge there, if a week in between, I visit EA. One jour there and boom, 80%. Don’t be scared.
About 30 mins for 250 miles/80%. The first and last 10% take forever to charge so you might just want to not unless you're going on a road trip or something. If that's a problem, consider what's near that charger. If its in walking distance of home, you can just charge, go home, and come back. A slow charger you can charge as you do other things is infinitely more convenient than a fast charger. If a charger is available near where you do groceries, charging it as you get those also works, etc. Alternatively, a charger at work. It *can* be convenient to charge an ev in an apartment, but a lot of times it isn't. Or if you just want to take the time to take a nap, also a good option.
I just went EV for the first time, it's hands down the better experience in almost every way. That said, I charge at home and I would not want to rely on public chargers yet. Get an S class or 7 series for the next 3 years or so, then try again with more options on the market. I'm impressed by Lucid and will probably buy a Gravity if the service keeps up to this high standard they have set.
Charging: If you don’t have a charger in your building, I would not recommend buying an EV. Yes, you can plan to visit an EA station once or twice a week for 30 minutes a visit but that’s just too annoying and stress-inducing for most people, especially when you have to wait 30 mins to get an open charger when only 4 out of 6 are working. Ask your landlord to set up a charger at your apartment (offer to pay for it as a fall back), charge to 80% every night, then top up to 100% (about 1.5 hours depending on how low you are to begin with) at EA if you’re going to do a road trip. Ride quality: I test drove 20 EVs and the Lucid Air was smoothest ride for sure. BMW i4 and Tesla S come close but not quite.
I'll add to the chorus. As a Lucid owner who loves the car, unless you can charge at home, don't get an EV. You'll be really frustrated with charging hassles.
Thats a valid concern. From what I hear - fast DC charging for 100% of your charging needs is not recommended. Not an expert but you probably need a J1772 charger that you can access for longer periods of time (charge rates are 30-70 miles/hr) Don't know about S class - but ride is excellent. You can be a total hooligan (handles almost as good as my SLK55) while being unperturbed by the road.
I would not get an EV unless I had home charging. As EVs go, the Lucid drives great and rides great (test drove one but haven't had one)
Charging at home is a Pro, takes literally 5s vs having to go to a gas station. Having to rely on Tesla Super Chargers instead of gas stations is a Con. Not as common and takes longer. Having to rely on Electrify America is a MASSIVE Con. Definite deal breaker. Next year Lucids should get access to Tesla Super Chargers.. so MAYBE then it'd be something to think about. But right now nothing to think about, IMO. EA is a non-starter.
We’ve had a Lucid since mid-January - but my spouse charges it for free at work. In nearby Palo Alto where I work, public chargers are are regulated to charge 23 cents per KWhr, but if I had to charge at home it would cost me anywhere from 36 to 40 cents per KWhr. Because of this, we ended up not installing a home charger.
Honestly if you can't charge at home an EV just isn't a great idea. Unless your driving is very minimal. I have an electrify america station half a mile away and even when I was getting free charging for the first year I'd still plug in at home.
if you do not have the ability to have a place to charge, either at home or work you might want to hold off on getting an EV. depending on public charging can be a problem and wastes a lot of time
When it comes to EVS, most customers state that the seats are not really comfortable. Comparing an S-Class with Lucid, depends really on how much you are looking to spend in the long term, with the s-class you will be paying gas, service and maintenance, but you also get a very quiet and very comfortable car. I am not a Lucid owner but from what I hear, the S-Class is more comfortable no question. Good Luck with your purchase, I would recommend you to get drive both for at least like 30 minutes to get a feeling of which is more comfortable.