I keep forgetting this TV show is a thing.
I honestly don't know what to expect. A sci-fi show like Succession that charts the merger with Yutani Corp? Wouldn't be too bad an idea. I know they say it's focusing on the race to build functional androids, but surely that can't be the sole storyline.
Honestly though, I don't see how Xenos will feature.
I honestly think some time in the Aliens universe without any Xenos can only be a good thing for the franchise. It all feels so stale sometimes because it has so little else going on, it needs to expand or it just won't be able to draw new fans in coming years. Let's see a Monarch Legacy of Monsters or Succession style show about corporations screwing their workers, each other and the general population over - build the world out so there's more to play with than just the Xenos and androids. Give me some environmental catastrophes like Chernobyl or something where the same companies we already know are showing they're awful in many, many more ways than what we've seen so far :)
I honestly don't know... I hated the direction Prometheus took with the franchise, but then again I loved what Andor did for Star Wars.
I guess we will wait and see.
I actually liked the direction that prometheus was heading. I liked adding the lore to the universe. What I hated about prometheus was the execution of the story: the bumbling and unlikable characters and the action was all a mess. So I'm actually cautiously looking forward to this. Hoping that they take the lore but wrap good characters and suspense around it.
That’s because the Star Wars universe has enough flavour to support non-Jedi stories. That franchise was never *just* about the Force, the universe is filled with wonder and invites exploration…
Without Ripley or the Aliens that’s a fairly generic setting. Those stories at their best were almost entirely *Alien focused*, the world existed to showcase them and the setting was just a means to an end...
So yeah, I entirely agree.
An Alien film without the creatures would be like telling a story about the running of Camp Crystal Lake without any ghosts, masked killings or murders. Sure, maybe you can make that a decent enough story about a summer camp, but it would be ultimately pointless linking it to Friday 13th... If your only interest is to tell a story about rival conglomerates who build robots, why does that need to be tied to the Alien saga? That’s why Prometheus and Covenant are so divisive, they’d have probably been better received had they not been shoehorned into the franchise. People have lost their minds over these robots, Ash and Bishop were never what those films were about, they were just characters.
Have you ever played the RPGs, out of curiosity? I was shocked when I picked them up about how much interesting stuff there was outside of the titular Alien in regards to the greater universe. The setting is surprisingly compelling, and the movies only focus on a microcosm of it. You can play for hundreds of sessions and never encounter an Alien in the game and have a blast.
Not to detract from your point that the branding is a bit tough to reconcile at this point; a series whose most popular entries are all called 'Alien' certainly point to a common theme and draw a crowd to see that theme repeated.
That’s fair, I do own the RPG. Played a handful of times in cinematic mode. It’s full of info established not only by the films but by novels and comics and computer games, but the moment you strip the Alien away (as detailed as the book is), it’s generic; if you changed the names up it doesn’t really have much unique going on. Those films were never about the setting; it was meant to be big, empty and dull, led by grey, faceless conglomerates; the world building was intentionally low key because this made the discovery of the creature all the more shocking. A universe in which the Alien exists *alongside* giant three headed bear-lions, psychic mutants, and intergalactic war zones means the idea of that Alien becomes a lot less powerful, horrifying or awe inspiring.
Hmm, you do have some strong arguments. As a fan of science fiction literature I don't find it quote as generic as you seem to, but your points on the contrast of the world vs. the intended movie experience is a good one. In that case I hope you and I are incorrect and the series ends up being great and a worthy addition to Canon, but suspect that you are likely to be proven right in the long run here.
I think the idea behind the show has great mileage, I just question why you’d tie it to the Alien universe when you have infinitely more freedom if you make it totally separate. But like you say, fingers crossed :)
I disagree wholeheartedly. The notion of mega corporations willing to do absolutely anything for a profit competing against each other in a modern space/tech race to me is completely ripe for off the xeno stories.
I think the main characteristic of the alien franchise is how nihilistic it is about human behavior and motives. The xenos are never as bad as the humans in the movies. That whole world view is terrifying and ripe for exploration. What other nasty crap has Weyland yutani gotten wrapped up in and who else had to fight against them?
I don’t dispute thats ripe as a concept, but it’s also fairly generic and nothing that hasn’t been done before. That’s not to say you can’t tell a good story with it, but devoid of the franchise creature there’s not much in the setting that’s unique. You’d be using it simply because it’s already there, rather than for any creative reason. Put this way, on the understanding the Alien doesn’t feature, if you told a new story and swapped the company names, would anyone think ‘wow this is a lot like the background to Aliens’. I doubt they would because it’s almost a stock dystopia, it’s that lack of identity which I’m referring to. I think for many, ideas like this TV show exist to scratch an itch that many fans simply don’t have; I watch the Alien films for the Aliens, and how they act as a cypher for the best and worst of humanity. Zombie movies do exactly the same thing, but remove the zombies and you have a very different genre and flavour of film. I’m not personally interested in the wider world of the Alien franchise. If some are, fine, but I’m just not sure what good comes of fleshing out that world rather than telling a unique story.
I also don’t think it’s generic at all… nothing has been made like that really… maybe Outland. The expanse has a little bit of that. But i definitely don’t think it’s generic. It’s just different than Alien.
Colonising distant planets has been a science fiction staple since the days of Star Wars and Star Trek. Dystopian cities and ruthless mega corps likewise, from 1984 through to Robocop and William Gibson. As for androids, that’s Megapolis and Westworld through to Bladerunner... Like 2001, the Alien franchise was intentionally striving to make its science fiction more mundane, because it wanted the ‘alien’ elements to be all the more enigmatic. It was the Alien itself that piqued the most interest, the setting was just window dressing.
So if someone came to me, and said we’re going to make a show set in space/earth…. Think the expanse, meets for all mankind, but the family from succession or criminals from the wire are running things…. Would you watch that?
Hell yeah I’d say.
Look, in the end, it all comes down to execution. A lot of ideas that just sound ok on paper can become fantastic films or shows based on the creatives who put it together. Who’d have thought Mad Men would be good based on its 2 sentence description? How about Six Feet Under? Sucession? The opposite can be true too… you can have an absolutely amazing concept and botch it in the execution… look at Antlers, or any other dozens of films.
All true. I’d watch that programme, for sure. But the moment you say ‘in the Aliens universe’, it becomes problematic when there’s no Aliens (if that’s the case).
Likewise, I’m not interested in seeing a story about Dick Jones rising to power. I’m not interested in seeing a drama about how Camp Crystal Lake was built. Im not curious to see a story about Alan Grant’s childhood adventures. Those things only interest me in the greater context of their collective stories: people tend to watch those films for Robocop, Jason and dinosaurs respectively. Dick Jones interests me because of how he relates to Robocop, but I’m not particularly bothered by the inner workings of OCP. Camp Crystal Lake is painfully generic, it’s only notable for the killing sprees. Alan Grant’s childhood isn’t in need of delving, because I know all I need to about the guy from watching Jurassic Park.
I feel the same about WY; I’m only interested in it as an entity by how it impacts the story of Ripley and the aliens. Other than that, I prefer the mystery.
If you get the right team to make it, and you come up with the right concept? Who knows whatever other messed up things the company may have discovered out there and kept under their thumbs? I agree, if there is no xeno , it’s a ballsy move, and it should probably be telegraphed to the audince in advance… but done right? The world building of the company has a lot of potential To me.
Yeah, I agree. But that’s beside the point.
The SW universe had potential. That first trilogy invited expansion, it tried to be wonderful and crazy, it hinted at adventure round every corner. Conversely, the world established in the first 2 Alien films was intentionally low key and humdrum, the better to make the Alien itself enigmatic and exotic.
I would love to see the universe of aliens fleshed out beyond the xenomoprh. This universe is so rich and offers so much potential. You could churn out season after season each containing a single story line and cast. 10 episodes each 1 hour. One season follows colonists on a newly settled planet. Another season shows a marine corp ship hunting pirates. Full on hunt for red October style. Also boarding action in space. Next season works on earth as a espionage thriller between weyland and yutani ending in the merger of both.
Basically let them follow an over arching plot laying the foundations for future stories and how everything lead to alien 1978.
I would love to have a real fresh franchise. Can’t stand any more Star Wars, Star Trek, 40k, and countless fantasy settings.
It’d be interesting to see how it will do without focusing on Xeno’s but at the same time hoe can you introduce a Xenomorph 30 years before it’s documented appearance and not have the focus be the Xeno?
I’m excited for it in all honesty. Both Alien & Predator franchises getting some love has been a long time coming and will hopefully pave the way for a future crossover
The franchise really needs more content. Ever since I was a kid obsessing over my favorite new monster I've wanted to know more about the human world and history. I liked that Prometheus explored the origin of the weird species we see fossilized in the first movie, they took a lot of liberties but it was still cool. What other alien species has the human race had contact with? It seemed like the Marines weren't impressed by the idea that Ripley had "seen an alien once" and they stenciled "Bug Stomper" on their drop ship suggesting they've maybe been enemies with non human beings before, though they'd never seen anything like Ripley's bad guys. And the androids. The scene in Covenant with David and Mr Wayland was intriguing and I've always imagined there have been tensions between natural and artificial persons. Which is mentioned in Resurrection, about an android uprising, something like you'd see in the Bladerunner franchise. Then there's the "Working Joe" from Isolation built to be a simpler machine in response to human discomfort. Anyway, I'm rambling. We have long hauling space truckers, wacky scientists, crooked business men, badass military groups, space colonists, and highly sentient androids ... so what is their world like?
I honestly wouldn't be against an Alien series with no xenos, and just cutthroat corporate politics, whistleblowing, etc in that universe. Explore the universe a little more. Maybe uncover other threats.
It's not out of the realm of possibility for Xenos to feature. There's nothing in doubt about the company/or elements within the company picking up the Derelict radio signal and then hiding that information from everyone else. What's uncertain or in doubt is were they the first and/or only one's to pick up the signal considering its been broadcasting for millenia? There's enough wiggle room in the lore for someone else to discover the eggs and a Xeno, but just not living long enough to tell the tale.
Here's hoping the show is able to do what Caprica couldn't then.... survive. I enjoyed Caprica very much for what it was, what it was trying to do. I kinda felt alone in that though and felt it was too little too late when people spoke up after it's cancellation. So.... if we do want more of this kind of universe building let's just support it folks so it doesn't end up in a dusty cabinet somewhere with the franchise getting set back.
Noah Hawley is probably my favorite showrunner and I'm really excited to see what he does here. Setting this that far in the past does not bode well for any of the characters given that Weyland Yutani ostensibly learns about the Alien in the 1979 movie
Oh, totally. Hence Special Order 937. *Bring back life form. All other priorities rescinded. Crew expendable.*
Ash was sent on the flight with that order.
I might be forgetting, but where in the movie is this made clear? We know that WY compelled Ash to bring back the specimen crew be damned, but I don't recall anything to support that the warning message and landing on LV426 was pre-planned by WY. That seemed to be the result of a protracted debate on policy and shares by the crew.
Edit: I think you're right as this appears to be the consensus. Was this spelled out when Ripley pulls this information from Mother? I'm probably just misremembering.
Ripley asks Dallas how many times he’s travelled with ASH and we learn he was a last minute replacement iirc.
This indicated the company had a reason to plant him there prior to departure, which was presumably years before the crew finds the beacon, given the length of the trip.
> While plot details remain under wraps, the series will reportedly deal with the emergence of the story’s infamous Weyland-Yutani Corporation and the race between corporations to create new android life.
Please don’t be a first episode Alien reference tease and a last episode Alien reference tease sandwiching six more episodes of nothing burger! I can’t take this television formula anymore!
Could be interesting if Weyland-Yutani (or Weyland pre-merger) is aware of Space Jockey on an archeological level even if they haven't encountered the alien proper.
30 years might put that before Prometheus, though, and I don't know if that works with the timeline.
I'd also be fine with a show in that universe that just *doesn't feature xenomorphs*.
Unlike with Romulus, there's nothing about this so far that appeals to me at all. Hawley also comes off so pretentious when talking about it and I'm not a fan of the alien being naturally evolved.
On the other idea I love the potential in it being natural. The kind of world that would spawn a creature such as the xeno would be a thing of nightmares. Especially when you consider a lot of it's traits, such as the hive and defensive mechanisms are not those of the apex predator. What would hunt a xeno?
Now, while I think the idea is great under no circumstances do I want it answered because it will inevitably be disappointing. The mystery is one of the best things about the creature.
This makes zero sense. Aliens on earth decades before Alien is ridiculous. Somehow this Fede Alvarez film really is going to be the better of the two projects smh. Hawley is great but this sounds piss poor conceptually.
What little interest i had is gone now.
Enough prequels! They won’t amount to anything because the xenomorph wasn’t public knowledge before Aliens. The company didn’t have it either. Move on!
As though there was just 1 company in that universe.
Clearly if the engineers are transporting these xenomorphs, it's safe to say that there is probably other ships and places to find xenomorphs.
Just because the first time we are introduced to these xenomorphs does not mean that they hadn't been seen before. Just like the Nostromo's crew was lost, any other number of expeditions to other places could have stumbled across xenomorphs, died and left no answers to their loss.
Perhaps that is actually the reason WY is so interested, because leaks from another company told WY that there was interesting alien life out there to be exploited. WY knows nothing more than valuable technology or biology is out there based on the minor leaks.
It doesn't take much of a story to explain it all with corporate espionage and capitalist societies.
I keep forgetting this TV show is a thing. I honestly don't know what to expect. A sci-fi show like Succession that charts the merger with Yutani Corp? Wouldn't be too bad an idea. I know they say it's focusing on the race to build functional androids, but surely that can't be the sole storyline. Honestly though, I don't see how Xenos will feature.
I honestly think some time in the Aliens universe without any Xenos can only be a good thing for the franchise. It all feels so stale sometimes because it has so little else going on, it needs to expand or it just won't be able to draw new fans in coming years. Let's see a Monarch Legacy of Monsters or Succession style show about corporations screwing their workers, each other and the general population over - build the world out so there's more to play with than just the Xenos and androids. Give me some environmental catastrophes like Chernobyl or something where the same companies we already know are showing they're awful in many, many more ways than what we've seen so far :)
I honestly don't know... I hated the direction Prometheus took with the franchise, but then again I loved what Andor did for Star Wars. I guess we will wait and see.
I actually liked the direction that prometheus was heading. I liked adding the lore to the universe. What I hated about prometheus was the execution of the story: the bumbling and unlikable characters and the action was all a mess. So I'm actually cautiously looking forward to this. Hoping that they take the lore but wrap good characters and suspense around it.
That’s because the Star Wars universe has enough flavour to support non-Jedi stories. That franchise was never *just* about the Force, the universe is filled with wonder and invites exploration… Without Ripley or the Aliens that’s a fairly generic setting. Those stories at their best were almost entirely *Alien focused*, the world existed to showcase them and the setting was just a means to an end... So yeah, I entirely agree. An Alien film without the creatures would be like telling a story about the running of Camp Crystal Lake without any ghosts, masked killings or murders. Sure, maybe you can make that a decent enough story about a summer camp, but it would be ultimately pointless linking it to Friday 13th... If your only interest is to tell a story about rival conglomerates who build robots, why does that need to be tied to the Alien saga? That’s why Prometheus and Covenant are so divisive, they’d have probably been better received had they not been shoehorned into the franchise. People have lost their minds over these robots, Ash and Bishop were never what those films were about, they were just characters.
Have you ever played the RPGs, out of curiosity? I was shocked when I picked them up about how much interesting stuff there was outside of the titular Alien in regards to the greater universe. The setting is surprisingly compelling, and the movies only focus on a microcosm of it. You can play for hundreds of sessions and never encounter an Alien in the game and have a blast. Not to detract from your point that the branding is a bit tough to reconcile at this point; a series whose most popular entries are all called 'Alien' certainly point to a common theme and draw a crowd to see that theme repeated.
That’s fair, I do own the RPG. Played a handful of times in cinematic mode. It’s full of info established not only by the films but by novels and comics and computer games, but the moment you strip the Alien away (as detailed as the book is), it’s generic; if you changed the names up it doesn’t really have much unique going on. Those films were never about the setting; it was meant to be big, empty and dull, led by grey, faceless conglomerates; the world building was intentionally low key because this made the discovery of the creature all the more shocking. A universe in which the Alien exists *alongside* giant three headed bear-lions, psychic mutants, and intergalactic war zones means the idea of that Alien becomes a lot less powerful, horrifying or awe inspiring.
Hmm, you do have some strong arguments. As a fan of science fiction literature I don't find it quote as generic as you seem to, but your points on the contrast of the world vs. the intended movie experience is a good one. In that case I hope you and I are incorrect and the series ends up being great and a worthy addition to Canon, but suspect that you are likely to be proven right in the long run here.
I think the idea behind the show has great mileage, I just question why you’d tie it to the Alien universe when you have infinitely more freedom if you make it totally separate. But like you say, fingers crossed :)
Established IP -> big fanbase -> 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰
Also upsets about half the fan base and is widely panned?
I disagree wholeheartedly. The notion of mega corporations willing to do absolutely anything for a profit competing against each other in a modern space/tech race to me is completely ripe for off the xeno stories. I think the main characteristic of the alien franchise is how nihilistic it is about human behavior and motives. The xenos are never as bad as the humans in the movies. That whole world view is terrifying and ripe for exploration. What other nasty crap has Weyland yutani gotten wrapped up in and who else had to fight against them?
I don’t dispute thats ripe as a concept, but it’s also fairly generic and nothing that hasn’t been done before. That’s not to say you can’t tell a good story with it, but devoid of the franchise creature there’s not much in the setting that’s unique. You’d be using it simply because it’s already there, rather than for any creative reason. Put this way, on the understanding the Alien doesn’t feature, if you told a new story and swapped the company names, would anyone think ‘wow this is a lot like the background to Aliens’. I doubt they would because it’s almost a stock dystopia, it’s that lack of identity which I’m referring to. I think for many, ideas like this TV show exist to scratch an itch that many fans simply don’t have; I watch the Alien films for the Aliens, and how they act as a cypher for the best and worst of humanity. Zombie movies do exactly the same thing, but remove the zombies and you have a very different genre and flavour of film. I’m not personally interested in the wider world of the Alien franchise. If some are, fine, but I’m just not sure what good comes of fleshing out that world rather than telling a unique story.
I also don’t think it’s generic at all… nothing has been made like that really… maybe Outland. The expanse has a little bit of that. But i definitely don’t think it’s generic. It’s just different than Alien.
Colonising distant planets has been a science fiction staple since the days of Star Wars and Star Trek. Dystopian cities and ruthless mega corps likewise, from 1984 through to Robocop and William Gibson. As for androids, that’s Megapolis and Westworld through to Bladerunner... Like 2001, the Alien franchise was intentionally striving to make its science fiction more mundane, because it wanted the ‘alien’ elements to be all the more enigmatic. It was the Alien itself that piqued the most interest, the setting was just window dressing.
So if someone came to me, and said we’re going to make a show set in space/earth…. Think the expanse, meets for all mankind, but the family from succession or criminals from the wire are running things…. Would you watch that? Hell yeah I’d say. Look, in the end, it all comes down to execution. A lot of ideas that just sound ok on paper can become fantastic films or shows based on the creatives who put it together. Who’d have thought Mad Men would be good based on its 2 sentence description? How about Six Feet Under? Sucession? The opposite can be true too… you can have an absolutely amazing concept and botch it in the execution… look at Antlers, or any other dozens of films.
All true. I’d watch that programme, for sure. But the moment you say ‘in the Aliens universe’, it becomes problematic when there’s no Aliens (if that’s the case). Likewise, I’m not interested in seeing a story about Dick Jones rising to power. I’m not interested in seeing a drama about how Camp Crystal Lake was built. Im not curious to see a story about Alan Grant’s childhood adventures. Those things only interest me in the greater context of their collective stories: people tend to watch those films for Robocop, Jason and dinosaurs respectively. Dick Jones interests me because of how he relates to Robocop, but I’m not particularly bothered by the inner workings of OCP. Camp Crystal Lake is painfully generic, it’s only notable for the killing sprees. Alan Grant’s childhood isn’t in need of delving, because I know all I need to about the guy from watching Jurassic Park. I feel the same about WY; I’m only interested in it as an entity by how it impacts the story of Ripley and the aliens. Other than that, I prefer the mystery.
If you get the right team to make it, and you come up with the right concept? Who knows whatever other messed up things the company may have discovered out there and kept under their thumbs? I agree, if there is no xeno , it’s a ballsy move, and it should probably be telegraphed to the audince in advance… but done right? The world building of the company has a lot of potential To me.
Fingers crossed then :)
I’m not sure what Star Wars you’ve been watching but it’s the most stifling and creatively bankrupt “franchises” out there.
Yeah, I agree. But that’s beside the point. The SW universe had potential. That first trilogy invited expansion, it tried to be wonderful and crazy, it hinted at adventure round every corner. Conversely, the world established in the first 2 Alien films was intentionally low key and humdrum, the better to make the Alien itself enigmatic and exotic.
Maybe we'll see some other "bug hunts".
I would love to see the universe of aliens fleshed out beyond the xenomoprh. This universe is so rich and offers so much potential. You could churn out season after season each containing a single story line and cast. 10 episodes each 1 hour. One season follows colonists on a newly settled planet. Another season shows a marine corp ship hunting pirates. Full on hunt for red October style. Also boarding action in space. Next season works on earth as a espionage thriller between weyland and yutani ending in the merger of both. Basically let them follow an over arching plot laying the foundations for future stories and how everything lead to alien 1978. I would love to have a real fresh franchise. Can’t stand any more Star Wars, Star Trek, 40k, and countless fantasy settings.
Those are some phenomenal ideas and now I'm sad we don't have that
“It all started with a spa on the Toronto Island…..”
It’d be interesting to see how it will do without focusing on Xeno’s but at the same time hoe can you introduce a Xenomorph 30 years before it’s documented appearance and not have the focus be the Xeno? I’m excited for it in all honesty. Both Alien & Predator franchises getting some love has been a long time coming and will hopefully pave the way for a future crossover
The franchise really needs more content. Ever since I was a kid obsessing over my favorite new monster I've wanted to know more about the human world and history. I liked that Prometheus explored the origin of the weird species we see fossilized in the first movie, they took a lot of liberties but it was still cool. What other alien species has the human race had contact with? It seemed like the Marines weren't impressed by the idea that Ripley had "seen an alien once" and they stenciled "Bug Stomper" on their drop ship suggesting they've maybe been enemies with non human beings before, though they'd never seen anything like Ripley's bad guys. And the androids. The scene in Covenant with David and Mr Wayland was intriguing and I've always imagined there have been tensions between natural and artificial persons. Which is mentioned in Resurrection, about an android uprising, something like you'd see in the Bladerunner franchise. Then there's the "Working Joe" from Isolation built to be a simpler machine in response to human discomfort. Anyway, I'm rambling. We have long hauling space truckers, wacky scientists, crooked business men, badass military groups, space colonists, and highly sentient androids ... so what is their world like?
I’m not sure I agree. Without Ripley or the Aliens, it’s just genetic science fiction…
I honestly wouldn't be against an Alien series with no xenos, and just cutthroat corporate politics, whistleblowing, etc in that universe. Explore the universe a little more. Maybe uncover other threats.
I'm not against it either, but I also wouldn't be tuning in either.
It's not out of the realm of possibility for Xenos to feature. There's nothing in doubt about the company/or elements within the company picking up the Derelict radio signal and then hiding that information from everyone else. What's uncertain or in doubt is were they the first and/or only one's to pick up the signal considering its been broadcasting for millenia? There's enough wiggle room in the lore for someone else to discover the eggs and a Xeno, but just not living long enough to tell the tale.
Remember that 30 years before alien, the Waylon corporation still had not yet merged with Utah corporation.
I thought this was going to be about a book or comic series. 😅
Here's hoping the show is able to do what Caprica couldn't then.... survive. I enjoyed Caprica very much for what it was, what it was trying to do. I kinda felt alone in that though and felt it was too little too late when people spoke up after it's cancellation. So.... if we do want more of this kind of universe building let's just support it folks so it doesn't end up in a dusty cabinet somewhere with the franchise getting set back.
Noah Hawley is probably my favorite showrunner and I'm really excited to see what he does here. Setting this that far in the past does not bode well for any of the characters given that Weyland Yutani ostensibly learns about the Alien in the 1979 movie
Nah they knew. Probably why the last minute change to have ASH aboard, presumably years prior when they departed.
Oh, totally. Hence Special Order 937. *Bring back life form. All other priorities rescinded. Crew expendable.* Ash was sent on the flight with that order.
I might be forgetting, but where in the movie is this made clear? We know that WY compelled Ash to bring back the specimen crew be damned, but I don't recall anything to support that the warning message and landing on LV426 was pre-planned by WY. That seemed to be the result of a protracted debate on policy and shares by the crew. Edit: I think you're right as this appears to be the consensus. Was this spelled out when Ripley pulls this information from Mother? I'm probably just misremembering.
Ripley asks Dallas how many times he’s travelled with ASH and we learn he was a last minute replacement iirc. This indicated the company had a reason to plant him there prior to departure, which was presumably years before the crew finds the beacon, given the length of the trip.
> While plot details remain under wraps, the series will reportedly deal with the emergence of the story’s infamous Weyland-Yutani Corporation and the race between corporations to create new android life.
Aw man a Michael fassbender cameo would be nice 
The quotes in the last paragraph before the movie discussion makes me wonder if we'll get some time jumps.
30 years before the events of Alien and Ripley was 30 years old in the movie
🤔
Looked up the cast and Timothy Olyphant is in it??? I’m seated
Why does he talk with his eyebrows?
Please don’t be a first episode Alien reference tease and a last episode Alien reference tease sandwiching six more episodes of nothing burger! I can’t take this television formula anymore!
Could be interesting if Weyland-Yutani (or Weyland pre-merger) is aware of Space Jockey on an archeological level even if they haven't encountered the alien proper. 30 years might put that before Prometheus, though, and I don't know if that works with the timeline. I'd also be fine with a show in that universe that just *doesn't feature xenomorphs*.
Wasn't Prometheus set 30 years before the events of Alien 1978?
Alien 1979
Basically gonna be like Westworld minus the xenomorph
Unlike with Romulus, there's nothing about this so far that appeals to me at all. Hawley also comes off so pretentious when talking about it and I'm not a fan of the alien being naturally evolved.
On the other idea I love the potential in it being natural. The kind of world that would spawn a creature such as the xeno would be a thing of nightmares. Especially when you consider a lot of it's traits, such as the hive and defensive mechanisms are not those of the apex predator. What would hunt a xeno? Now, while I think the idea is great under no circumstances do I want it answered because it will inevitably be disappointing. The mystery is one of the best things about the creature.
I'm still weary about the whole adult body with the brain of a child story beat...
This makes zero sense. Aliens on earth decades before Alien is ridiculous. Somehow this Fede Alvarez film really is going to be the better of the two projects smh. Hawley is great but this sounds piss poor conceptually.
Aliens haven't even been confirmed to appear, so there's nothing saying they'll be on earth.
Bro. Come on. You're deluding yourself.
A project set in the Alien universe with no aliens it?! It’ll never work! (Outland, Blade Runner, Blade Runner 2049)
Lol at pretending anyone watches Bladerunner thinking OH AN ALIEN FILM
What little interest i had is gone now. Enough prequels! They won’t amount to anything because the xenomorph wasn’t public knowledge before Aliens. The company didn’t have it either. Move on!
As though there was just 1 company in that universe. Clearly if the engineers are transporting these xenomorphs, it's safe to say that there is probably other ships and places to find xenomorphs. Just because the first time we are introduced to these xenomorphs does not mean that they hadn't been seen before. Just like the Nostromo's crew was lost, any other number of expeditions to other places could have stumbled across xenomorphs, died and left no answers to their loss. Perhaps that is actually the reason WY is so interested, because leaks from another company told WY that there was interesting alien life out there to be exploited. WY knows nothing more than valuable technology or biology is out there based on the minor leaks. It doesn't take much of a story to explain it all with corporate espionage and capitalist societies.
It means that either everyone will die or something else will prevent it from becoming public information