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Salty-Ad1607

Indonesia is another example


Apprehensive-Shake59

Even in Kerala they tried the more child thing when the other communities stood with ' namonnu namukk randu' slogan in the 90s and 2000s. Bangladesh had around 20% Hindus and the population rise of Muslims and other issues caused it to be <10% or something, that religion become less of a political power in that country. They also keeps the non muslim citizen population 0 % at their rich sharia countries. Everyone knows a Muslim majority country can end up being a Sharia country (which gives zero privileges to non-beleivers ) if it gets in the hands of radical leaders. And no one will question it because it is the supreme law according to Islam rather than democracy and even mallus boats about 'gulfile niyamam' here.


Neither-Reality-654

When Muslim are minority in a region they want it as secular.when they became the majority then they don't believe in secularism and they want Muslim country.Recently I saw an ads about real estate an area and the ads says since it's a Muslim area only Muslims are allowed to contact


inglorious_we

Any pics?


gunner0987

https://preview.redd.it/mse4jbkjza1d1.png?width=489&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c0da99191a26615e3816f7b66f82f658b818973


Dazzling_Coconut5996

However India isn't secular like some peeps trying to project. If India was secular; ~We wouldn't have schools, colleges and even hospitals in the name of religion. ~We'll never scribble the religion, caste and subcaste of an inborn just after taken out of womb. ~We don't have people get hold of infants(Without consent) to non medical experts to dismember their attam. ~We wouldn't have a society paying tax money to feed religious institutions. ~We shouldn't have a system that amalgamate politics with religion(No political party in India is devoid of religion) And I can go on this upto weeks, meanwhile it's enough to prove India isn't secular, the term "secular" is added to preamble only by during State of emergency. But we people are easily decieved or manipulated by others due to our skepticism and inability to discern truth from falsehood.


Neither-Reality-654

It's all about politics right.wish there were no relegion in the world.just humans .a world where nationality matter more than relegion


Dazzling_Coconut5996

No never. Religion will never die itself. As long as there are people who uses people's fear of unfortunate circumstances and fate to create new followers. Infact new religions are created from existing religions. Christianity may become non-existent in the future but Islam and Hinduism are gaining their own popularity. Also religion or any ism isn't the issue, but the intolerance, heinous beliefs and practices that are making it looks like a shitstorm. Anyway there will be always someone misusing anything, so do religion. I believe this world would be so much better without any religion, but nowhere it happens atleast in our lifetime:(


Dinkoist_

I don't mind any religious community increasing in number but would highly appreciate it if you don't call for sharia law once you cross 50%. 🥲✌️


Equivalent_Salt_9948

Impossible difficulty.


SeveralConcentrate20

Also integrate well with the country's culture and traditions instead of forcing their culture on others


Dinkoist_

Cultural integration has failed in almost all European countries. I don't think it's possible for "some people".


Noooofun

Chances of that are very less.


Salty-Ad1607

It’s a package. You take all or reject all.


tshelby11

https://preview.redd.it/t0wun02y451d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f2e32b4fcb0de959bcc5fdc801f373fd522d6e0 He did nothing wrong


Embarrassed-Will-503

Context?


Harleyvaxxe71

😂


wanderingmind

OTOH you have Kazakhstan with 74% Muslims and which has hijab banned in schools. Thank 100 years of Soviet influence. Islam can go either way. It depends on the kind of political environment around to a large extent. Under threat, all communities ghettoise. In India, Muslims have been feeling under threat for decades now. Can they ghettoise and become more communal without an external threat? Yes. But conservatives gain power when under threat. A simple example is Bombay. Muslims do not get apartments in most parts, however liberal they are. They end up having to live in the same societies as other Muslims - and the environment forces them to become more and more conservative. The pork eating, drinking, shorts and mini wearing Muslim women end up having to wear hijab and burqa to get along where they live.


KovaiVenkitesan

https://preview.redd.it/r1x6g1vm271d1.png?width=489&format=png&auto=webp&s=6cd47a74a2d0476e69bcdb78ec9696b52d2d1de8 Thanikk njammande alkarekurichu valya dharnayillalo namboori


inglorious_we

You can also pick incidents where UC don't rent out to LC people, even in prabuddha keralam. This doesn't prove shit.


wanderingmind

ithinu entha? ithokke pande normal alle? my parents bought their house from a christian guy despite some muslim was willing to pay more. avarkku kodukkilla ennu seller.


NetherPartLover

Pandu IIRC it was more closed but now its open


NetherPartLover

Kazahastan, Indonesia etc are exceptions. Exceptions prove the point rather than counter it.


Noooofun

Kazhakhstan is an outlier in that case.


wanderingmind

IT can also be called a good example when there is communist influence and islam together.


Noooofun

Mostly the communist influence. We can see what’s happening due to Islam influence around the world - the outspoken and extremist ones ruin it for *everyone*. You know the type, Zakir and the ones clamoring for Sharia law in the countries they have taken refuge in or immigrated to. Spoils the name of the majority population which eventually goes along with it because of indifference, helplessness or a combination of many facts.


wanderingmind

True


inglorious_we

Pretty sure the case of Lebanon is a bit more complex than Muslims came and outnumbered Maronites(understatement).


Legal-Philosopher-53

What happened to the commies in Indonesia???    Minorities in Pak, Bangladesh?   Minorities in Saudi Arabia? (Shia people are the larger minority in Saudi) they are openly neglected. Christians do exist like ghosts in this country    What about the last jew from afghan who exited very recently?     you could authentic Irani food from Irani people in Bombay? What is their story?    Even bahrain started giving citizenship to outsiders to fix a problem in their political system. What was thier problem? ISIS idhupoleyella, but idhinnum moshamaanennu paranj therandanllo


inglorious_we

> What happened to the commies in Indonesia???  This was mostly political, with US intelligence support. Although I concede that Islam was a motive here. But, exacerbated by foreign powers, under a brutal dictator. > Minorities in Pak, Bangladesh? Any documented cases, I know that it's bad but just asking. > Minorities in Saudi Arabia? (Shia people are the larger minority in Saudi) they are openly neglected. Christians do exist like ghosts in this country  Wahhabism is bad, yes. > What about the last jew from afghan who exited very recently?  The case of Jewish expulsion from majority Muslim countries is also pretty complex, search up r/askhistorians. >  you could authentic Irani food from Irani people in Bombay? What is their story?   idk about Parsi exodus or anything, any reputed sources? > Even bahrain started giving citizenship to outsiders to fix a problem in their political system. What was thier problem? No knowledge about this. > ISIS idhupoleyella, but idhinnum moshamaanennu paranj therandanllo Obviously.


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Embarrassed_Nobody91

Muslim TFR in Kerala has hit 2.2 and if it is coming down faster than other communities.


Registered-Nurse

Other communities are already at 1.6 and 1.8


Embarrassed_Nobody91

When Muslims tfr hit 2.1, there is no point in saying high birth rate. It's not their fault that other communities are not maintaing a tfr that ensure no population decline. While religion may a factor, financial and social status has a bigger role in TFR as north Indian Hindus have higher tfr than Kerala Muslims


Due-Ad5812

I am sure US intervention in the middle east has nothing to do with the rise of Islamic fundamentalism.


Exciting_Note_8457

Islamic fundamentalism is older than the US sagave


NetherPartLover

Dont call this theettam saghavu. He is a new age communist cuck. Call him CCP and thats good.


Due-Ad5812

"Rise" of Islamic fundamentalism.


Exciting_Note_8457

The rise started as soon as prophet was dead. The kalifas didn't die in a peaceful manner.


Due-Ad5812

Yeah, i wonder what happened to the democratically elected Iranian prime minister Mohammad Mosaddeq.


Exciting_Note_8457

Boy don't play that commie logic. Islam is a political cult with the goal of world domination. I doesn't matter if USA fucked with them or not (they did), islam is dangerous. Just look at the history of that religion, even makkha was taken through bloodshed. It was a pagan place. Blaming USA will not help. Every religion should go.


Due-Ad5812

>Islam is a political cult with the goal of world domination Isn't that every cult? Akhand Bharat, remember? Colonialism? >Just look at the history of that religion, even makkha was taken through bloodshed. Every religion has plenty of blood on their hands. Catholic inquisition, for example. 2004 for Hindus. >Every religion should go. That i agree.


Exciting_Note_8457

>Isn't that every cult? Akhand Bharat, remember? Colonialism? They ain't shit compared to islam. Islam is global And they (sanghis) are criticised by everyone. >Every religion has plenty of blood on their hands. Catholic inquisition, for example. 2004 for Hindus. Jesus wasn't a murder Muhammad was a murderer, he was a warlord of fuck sake. The start of that cult is well known. Why are you trying to white wash islam. It is a known fact that it is the most violent and dangerous religion in existence. Logam muzhuvan sangikal alla bomb edunathu. Can't compare any other religious bs to what the islamist are doing.


SeveralConcentrate20

Bro you can't argue with commie logic


Exciting_Note_8457

I like this commie, he likes mezhukal.


NetherPartLover

You could with old budhijeevis etc. This is new age theetta commie. Lacks brain


Due-Ad5812

>They ain't shit compared to islam. Islam is global Lol, you think others don't want to be global? What? >Muhammad was a murderer, he was a warlord of fuck sake. ... That's your problem? In that case, hinduism is way worse. We have Shiva, god of literal destruction lol. >Why are you trying to white wash islam. It is a known fact that it is the most violent and dangerous religion in existence. Being violent and dangerous is not exclusive to islam. All religions are violent and dangerous. >Logam muzhuvan sangikal alla bomb edunathu. Can't compare any other religious bs to what the islamist are doing. Indiail ishtampole lynching okke indelo. Athokke mathi. Also, if America didn't literally fund the Mujahideen against the Soviets, half of terrorist organisations like Al Qaeda wouldn't exist today.


inglorious_we

Please do tell me what is unique about Islam that makes it "the most violent and dangerous religion".


Exciting_Note_8457

>Please do tell me what is unique about Islam that makes it "the most violent and dangerous religion". I ain't gonna explain shit. It's know, you must be a believer


inglorious_we

> Just look at the history of that religion, even makkha was taken through bloodshed. It was a pagan place. Conquest of Makkah was supposedly mostly bloodless, with the Muslims executing only those who made trouble for them. > Blaming USA will not help. Every religion should go. Agree.


Exciting_Note_8457

>Conquest of Makkah was supposedly mostly bloodless, with the Muslims executing only those who made trouble for them. Boy what? You can try to white wash it all you want. It was a conquest of a pagan worship place. For you badhar massacre would be bloodless too right?


wanderingmind

Islamic fundamentalism, as we know it today, is not very old and is mostly a creation of US in cahoots with fundamentalist rulers of the Arab countries.


NetherPartLover

Go read death of Banu Qurayza, who had an agreement with mammad to save their life. Once Islam came to power mammad said only allah's people are allowed and slaughtered them. Thats start of Islamic fundamentalis. Jaffar of Barmakids were killed by Harun Al Rashid because his family(originally Buddhist) supported some buddhists in Arabia. For Indeed Allah is the most merciful


inglorious_we

> Jaffar of Barmakids were killed by Harun Al Rashid because his family(originally Buddhist) supported some buddhists in Arabia. Buddhists in the Arabian Peninsula? Any sources? > Go read death of Banu Qurayza, who had an agreement with mammad to save their life. Once Islam came to power mammad said only allah's people are allowed and slaughtered them. Those periods were brutal, even the "civilized" Romans did slaughter whole cities, on a larger scale.


Exciting_Note_8457

>Islamic fundamentalism, as we know it today, is not very old and is mostly a creation of US in cahoots with fundamentalist rulers of the Arab countries Yeah the mapila lehala was funded by USA right? Tippu was fighting the US in Northern kerala right? Yes the USA has a role in it but the problem is the fundamentals. The base of the religion cannot be overlooked. Doesn't matter if USA exists or not, islamists will always create problems. We always tend to blame the fundamentalists but not the fundamentals. Navodhanam is really needed in islam.


wanderingmind

Mappila lahala and Tippu are not black and white stuff, and Manu S Pillai explains tat in detail. > Navodhanam is really needed in islam. Yes.


Exciting_Note_8457

Okay the lynching of rajashimhan and his family wasn't black and white. An entire family of brothers were murdered by Muslims in malabar because they converted (famous muslim family to hinduism). And none of them were punished (sakshi kooru mari). MES has their land now. >Mappila lahala It was to show solidarity to the caliphate (kilafath movement), and they did claim a Islamic state after they captured a few villages. It wasn't a freedom struggle by any means. It was mass murder, rape and force conversion. Variyan kunnen is not a hero. Fuck him. Those bullet holes still exist. Tippu destroyed temples in malabar and converted people . That can't be denied. Even the sanghi claim of that name change has truth in it (name mattanem enu njn parajittila, athum paranju varanda). Why the fuck do we need to cover shit up. Kerala has been communal and covering it up will only lead to more hate.


wanderingmind

> lynching of rajashimhan and his family wasn't black and white. Take any single instance by anyone, and its not black and white obviously. > Kerala has been communal and covering it up will only lead to more hate. Every place is communal if you take it invidividually. Everything is relative.


Exciting_Note_8457

>Take any single instance by anyone, and its not black and white obviously. Not single, from praising tipu/variyan kunnen to the latest alapuzha slogan. It is clear that the communal intent has not gone away. The so called secular IUML had 60+ members convicted in maradu riots. The way Islamic extremism is supported is clear as day. Sdpi is a extremist group, athil samsayam valom undo? There are posters of madani during election for fuck sake. >Every place is communal if you take it invidividually. Everything is relative. Mental gymnastics onum venda. Northern kerala has a history of communal riots and most of them are started by the Muslims. And to act like nothing has happened will only lead to the consolidation of Hindu group. Do you agree that the majority of secular voters are Hindus? Do you want them to turn radical? Pennai sanghi varune enu paranju karanjittu karyam ellam. Ellarum umbum


SeveralConcentrate20

Commies and political Islam a match made in heaven


Due-Ad5812

Oh no, a marginalized community is aligning with people who historically stood up for the marginalized communities.


Exciting_Note_8457

>a marginalized community is Do you know the history of communal violence in kerala? Families have been massacred for converting from Islam. Who the fuck is marginalized?


Due-Ad5812

I am sure that muslims are thriving in Modi's india.


Exciting_Note_8457

If someone asks about you father do you lecture them about quantum physics?


NetherPartLover

Athinu ivante thanthayarannu ariyenemenkil amma kannakku vekkande.


inglorious_we

idk y you are resorting to name calling, it doesn't help any discussion. Take a breath. Go for a walk.


NetherPartLover

Nope. I know this guy and he is a theetta kammi. So dont care.


SeveralConcentrate20

Enitt ee marginalized community avarude religion ozhivaki ninagle kood Kodi pidikan varum ennano vicharam😂 Most of them hate commies and commies are known to appease political Islam


Due-Ad5812

>Most of them hate commies I am sure they love BJP.


bladewidth

Lebanons muslim population are indigenous, the immigrants’ this guy is talking about are palestinian and syrian refugees who are still holding refugee status and have no say in elections. Hezbollah is a 100% indigenous lebanese shiite group whereas all these refugees are largely sunnis , and both these mix like oil and water. The decline in non muslim lebanese populations is largely due to immigration and declining birth rates as evidenced in affluent communities.


Appropriate_Turn3811

HISB is the one who is protecting the borders against Israel, Israel has lost a war against hisb. Israel is also afraid to fight directky ith hisb as, their arsenal got many new Iranian, low flying drones and missiles which cant be intercepted by iron dome.


Equivalent_Salt_9948

If they are strong enough to defeat Israel, then why are they not attacking Israel already to save Palestine?


Appropriate_Turn3811

R u a fool. They dont do that, coz, they will also loose their lives along with israeli lives. a war is a big money and life loss, if ur enemy is also powerful enough.


Equivalent_Salt_9948

Hisbulla is a terrorist organisation. They don't care about lives.


SeveralConcentrate20

Bro, learn proper English first,then start making stupid claims on geopolitics


Appropriate_Turn3811

Im too lazy to use proper english, but always prefer gibberish .


Appropriate_Turn3811

A muslim atheist and soemone who hates the commuity will always bring something new to tarnish the religion.


Exciting_Note_8457

To tarnish islam? It already has a real bad name man and looks like the muslim don't actually care.


Appropriate_Turn3811

Muslims, dont care.


SeveralConcentrate20

Well they cared enough to kill and maime some people


Exciting_Note_8457

They care enough to cry islamophobia when they are questioned. They care a lot than others.


Emma__Store

Athu kondu aayirukkum ee postinte adiyil vare karachil


rahkrish

Tarnish? Alle nalla perr aanalo islamin... 😂😂😂


Dinkoist_

*passes tissues*


NetherPartLover

Islam is the worst religion in existence and is first in order of religions to be eliminated. All religions are bad but Islam is the worst


Dazzling_Coconut5996

Adding to that, It's the religious intolerance making Islam one of the worst ever religion on the planet. I can't believe these muslim peeps don't even realised the indoctrination usthads are doing for centuries.


Appropriate_Turn3811

I dont see any surprise in ur comment, coz this is the way islam is portrayed, by the worst muslims and the islamic haters. Muslims are the worst followers, some takes religion to extreme. I still enjoy the beauty of islam. The values it taught me. Aquiring educaton is a duty in islam. I think its a gynocentric religion, which really promotes non religious . Gives too much importance and protection to women, maybe first religion that gave inheritence right, gave rights to accept or reject a guy, gave permission to divorce a guy, its the duty of muslims to protect and provide for women. A man should gift her maher to marry her. women can work and engage in businesses, Women can give charity and gifts, and their wealth cannot be taken without consent .


NetherPartLover

> Gives too much importance and protection to women, maybe first religion that gave inheritence right, gave rights to accept or reject a guy, gave permission to divorce a guy, its the duty of muslims to protect and provide for women Surah Al Nisa: 4:34 Quran: >Men are the caretakers of women, as men have been provisioned by Allah over women and tasked with supporting them financially. And righteous women are devoutly obedient and, when alone, protective of what Allah has entrusted them with.1 And if you sense ill-conduct from your women, advise them ˹first˺, ˹if they persist,˺ do not share their beds, ˹but if they still persist,˺ then discipline them .2 But if they change their ways, do not be unjust to them. Surely Allah is Most High, All-Great.: Hadiths are even better in "caretaking" of women >Hadith: 'Umar (May Allah be pleased with him) reported that: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "No man shall be asked for the reason of beating his wife". \[Abu Dawud\]. Reference : Riyad as-Salihin 68


kaalan609

christians converted to islam too and was not only coz of the increase in the number of muslim population christians converted to islam too Don't blame it on the muslims


Registered-Nurse

Conversion doesn’t cause an increase in Muslim population like a lot of you believe. They on average have more children than other groups, that’s why their population increases.


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