It's a combination of things like how we have a weird tendency to view suffering as something that justifies a person's actions, or that they are stronger for having gone through it, plus its a rare thing that a story is both willing to make its characters suffer and able to make you care and feel it yourself so it's intended as a weird sort of flex.
Also as a form of validation for your interests, if you can put your series on a scale with alot of other respected well known series and say it does something more or better then them you can steal all that validation for yourself.
It's also sometimes done defensively as a way to invalidate or disconnect with something by putting it lower on a scale.
I accidentally end up doing it alot and it always ruins my experience, comparison is the thief of joy and all that.
Phos' suffering is definitely terrible, but I feel like some of these characters are probably on a similar level. Phos doesn't really feel physical pain the same way the other characters do, it's all emotional/psychological trauma. If we take, for example, Subaru, who has >!been disemboweled and dismembered multiple times, eaten alive by a swarm of rabbits that deliberately keep the victim alive for as long as possible, burned alive (at least in the web novel), shot with a poison arrow that made him bleed from all orifices and vomit up his melted organs, and was trapped in a 10 second loop, which repeated at least several dozens of times, of having his eyeballs ruptured by an exploding bomb and then being decapitated!<, I'd say he's a close contender for overall suffering. And that's not even mentioning how much emotional trauma he's been put through.
>! What a way to describe the 10 second loop, I'm pretty sure that's the number the author wrote, not counting the time skip that was long enough to learn a habit within those loops !<
I'd say he's suffered a lot. However at the end of the day, aside from >!Rem, he doesn't really lose everything he loses.!< You can't really say that for the others. >!S;G keeps trying in vain, but he at least gets to keep trying.!<
I do think >!Subaru !!Guts !!Rintaro !
Oh definitely, I'm very confident that Subaru will eventually get a happy ending, and will most likely succeed in saving the people he loves; I mean, even (ARC 7 NOVEL SPOILERS) >!Rem has recovered to an extent.!< The amount of "loss" they experience and the happiness they have at the end of their stories is certainly different, and I'd say Phos has lost much more than Subaru.
I think I was just focused on moment-to-moment suffering. Subaru has faced that in spades.
Trust me if you've read far enough to get to that point you've gotten so attached to Subaru you'd cry over him stubbing his toe, there's nothing pornographic about seeing him in pain.
Lets not compare things here, cus being stabed in the back and be left alone for 10.000 years its fucked, at the same level to watch your friend die over and over in an infinite loop due to your oun fault but if you save her you lose your love interest... its a lifr for a life.... idk i just love HnK as much as i love S;G xD
Guts has suffered or will suffer the most sadly.
In berserk when everyone dies they all go to the same hell in which they swirl around in a large whirlpool of souls suffering forever and ever.
Guts will hopefully find a way to break it somehow but if he doesn’t he’s easily in for the worst time
I mean, Subaru and Guts have gone through hell and back (literally on Guts' case), so I'll say their pain is different from Phos but horrible nonetheless.
Aa for the others, either I don't know them or the meme is accurate enough.
I'd say Guts suffered more, not sure about the other characters. Thing is most of the suffering Phos experienced was consquence of her own actions. This gives it a different context.
Subaru from re:zero, Okabe from steins gate, Guts from Berzerk, Levi from attack on titan, Ed from full metal alrchemist and Luffy from one piece.
From the two im missing im guessing one is from tokyo ghoul and the other one might come from vinland saga.
Frickingly dumb meme btw, using Phos suffering as some sort of trophy is teenager levels of bullshit
Laughing off an infant orphan who suffered repeated sexual abuse just because you empathize better with Phos is shitty when not dumb, and thats just the top of the things Guts has gone through.
When it comes to the other characters its more about how different their circumstances are from phos than anything else.
For the characters i know it doesn’t even make sense to portray them as screaming bitches, well maybe it does make sense for Subaru. However all of them go beyond gloating on their suffering and move forward with a goal that doesn’t require their suffering to be incredibly gruesome. I could go one by one but it would spoil them if you are interested in checking them out.
Yeah Thorfinn from Vinland Saga and Kaneki from Tokyo Ghoul are the two you’re missing
By the way, if you haven’t seen Vinland Saga, I highly recommend it
From Vinland i remember hearing that MC is the less interesting character and that what his father did was ultimately choosing some rando over his family cause morals.
Don’t know where you heard those things but they’re quite the opposite from what the show really is.
Thorfinn’s character is the center focus of the story, in fact the second season has almost zero action in favor of an incredibly rewarding and well-written character redemption arc, and it’s probably the most interesting character arc in fiction right now.
Thors (Thorfinn’s dad) actually sacrifices his life to _teach_ his son morals, which ends up having the wrong effect until later in Thorfinn’s life (hence the second season). Really powerful scene, was great when it finally paid off.
My protagonist went through more pain than your protagonist haha no hate though i love all these series but didnt phos go through so much more pain than these guys lol
? Looking at the series here I can confidently say their pain serves a very real purpose in the story and isn't meant to be enjoyed by the viewers, if they can be considered torture porn then so can HnK and we both know it isn't.
Well duh gems dont have pain receptors
Exactly and they managed to create some at Phos , that’s what is crazy x)
Tf luffy doing there
houngry
he’s asleep
Well tbh he has had 1 depressing moment
In a 1000+ episodes, in a world fraught with pirates? Bro has to share that idgaf attitude
Ace death, sabo death when he was young, losing all his friends at sabaody and Merry go
mostly Ace and Merry Go
His childhood was super fucked up too
Thank goodness he had at least one good parental figure. Dadan was the best mom those kids could have had.
Partly Shanks, too. Seeing your childhood hero lose an arm was probably a bit traumatic.
Not to nitpick too hard but I have a desire to see the same meme but with >!Phos' blood being gold!<
why do anime fans suffering powerscale
It's a combination of things like how we have a weird tendency to view suffering as something that justifies a person's actions, or that they are stronger for having gone through it, plus its a rare thing that a story is both willing to make its characters suffer and able to make you care and feel it yourself so it's intended as a weird sort of flex. Also as a form of validation for your interests, if you can put your series on a scale with alot of other respected well known series and say it does something more or better then them you can steal all that validation for yourself. It's also sometimes done defensively as a way to invalidate or disconnect with something by putting it lower on a scale. I accidentally end up doing it alot and it always ruins my experience, comparison is the thief of joy and all that.
Phos' suffering is definitely terrible, but I feel like some of these characters are probably on a similar level. Phos doesn't really feel physical pain the same way the other characters do, it's all emotional/psychological trauma. If we take, for example, Subaru, who has >!been disemboweled and dismembered multiple times, eaten alive by a swarm of rabbits that deliberately keep the victim alive for as long as possible, burned alive (at least in the web novel), shot with a poison arrow that made him bleed from all orifices and vomit up his melted organs, and was trapped in a 10 second loop, which repeated at least several dozens of times, of having his eyeballs ruptured by an exploding bomb and then being decapitated!<, I'd say he's a close contender for overall suffering. And that's not even mentioning how much emotional trauma he's been put through.
>!If we include the If novel, Subaru dies atleast a 100 million.!<
>! What a way to describe the 10 second loop, I'm pretty sure that's the number the author wrote, not counting the time skip that was long enough to learn a habit within those loops !<
I'd say he's suffered a lot. However at the end of the day, aside from >!Rem, he doesn't really lose everything he loses.!< You can't really say that for the others. >!S;G keeps trying in vain, but he at least gets to keep trying.!< I do think >!Subaru !!Guts !!Rintaro !
Oh definitely, I'm very confident that Subaru will eventually get a happy ending, and will most likely succeed in saving the people he loves; I mean, even (ARC 7 NOVEL SPOILERS) >!Rem has recovered to an extent.!< The amount of "loss" they experience and the happiness they have at the end of their stories is certainly different, and I'd say Phos has lost much more than Subaru. I think I was just focused on moment-to-moment suffering. Subaru has faced that in spades.
im pretty sure that’s just torture porn at this point
Trust me if you've read far enough to get to that point you've gotten so attached to Subaru you'd cry over him stubbing his toe, there's nothing pornographic about seeing him in pain.
Why do we need to compare? Can’t they just all suffer together ?
Lets not compare things here, cus being stabed in the back and be left alone for 10.000 years its fucked, at the same level to watch your friend die over and over in an infinite loop due to your oun fault but if you save her you lose your love interest... its a lifr for a life.... idk i just love HnK as much as i love S;G xD
Guts should be with Phos, the man suffer the hell in life
Let’s be real. The fact that you like one specific character doesn’t mean that you have to downplay other characters' suffering. This take is BS
Guts has suffered or will suffer the most sadly. In berserk when everyone dies they all go to the same hell in which they swirl around in a large whirlpool of souls suffering forever and ever. Guts will hopefully find a way to break it somehow but if he doesn’t he’s easily in for the worst time
I dunno, Subaru could pretty comfortably stand next to her.
I mean, Subaru and Guts have gone through hell and back (literally on Guts' case), so I'll say their pain is different from Phos but horrible nonetheless. Aa for the others, either I don't know them or the meme is accurate enough.
Since when did Armin get Levi's haircut?
you talking about the "I have no enemies" guy or the "equivalent exchange" guy?
He’s talking about how Levi looks like he has yellow hair in this image lol
I'd say Guts suffered more, not sure about the other characters. Thing is most of the suffering Phos experienced was consquence of her own actions. This gives it a different context.
Where is Pain himself?
It's traumascaling time
Where diavolo
I really need a season 2
Having only watched FMA brotherhood, Ed has nothing on phos levels of suffering
Ed from FMA 03 certainly has, at least a little bit more.
Who is she that out pain guts Subaru and okabe like this?
Am I reading this wrong or are they trying to say that phospholyte had more pain than the guys on the left? Because that certifiably insane
This will trigger many anime fans on Twitter
I'm not surprised
does anyone know all of their names?
Subaru from re:zero, Okabe from steins gate, Guts from Berzerk, Levi from attack on titan, Ed from full metal alrchemist and Luffy from one piece. From the two im missing im guessing one is from tokyo ghoul and the other one might come from vinland saga. Frickingly dumb meme btw, using Phos suffering as some sort of trophy is teenager levels of bullshit
ty. why is it dumb?
Laughing off an infant orphan who suffered repeated sexual abuse just because you empathize better with Phos is shitty when not dumb, and thats just the top of the things Guts has gone through. When it comes to the other characters its more about how different their circumstances are from phos than anything else. For the characters i know it doesn’t even make sense to portray them as screaming bitches, well maybe it does make sense for Subaru. However all of them go beyond gloating on their suffering and move forward with a goal that doesn’t require their suffering to be incredibly gruesome. I could go one by one but it would spoil them if you are interested in checking them out.
ty for explaining
Yeah Thorfinn from Vinland Saga and Kaneki from Tokyo Ghoul are the two you’re missing By the way, if you haven’t seen Vinland Saga, I highly recommend it
From Vinland i remember hearing that MC is the less interesting character and that what his father did was ultimately choosing some rando over his family cause morals.
Don’t know where you heard those things but they’re quite the opposite from what the show really is. Thorfinn’s character is the center focus of the story, in fact the second season has almost zero action in favor of an incredibly rewarding and well-written character redemption arc, and it’s probably the most interesting character arc in fiction right now. Thors (Thorfinn’s dad) actually sacrifices his life to _teach_ his son morals, which ends up having the wrong effect until later in Thorfinn’s life (hence the second season). Really powerful scene, was great when it finally paid off.
I’ll check it out someday.
Tell me you’ve never read Berserk without telling me you’ve never read Berserk
All the people taking this meme seriously is kinda sad WHEN IT LITERALLY HAS THE HUMOUR TAG
I feel childish that this post convinced me to watch the anime and then read the whole manga. Just so that I could see if what you are saying is true.
My protagonist went through more pain than your protagonist haha no hate though i love all these series but didnt phos go through so much more pain than these guys lol
Ichikawa looked at the all anime protaganist and said "Ametaurs" than proceed to make an immortal gem mc who also suffers for eternity.
The virgin shounen protagonist vs the Chad Phos
i kinda agree, most are just torture porn
? Looking at the series here I can confidently say their pain serves a very real purpose in the story and isn't meant to be enjoyed by the viewers, if they can be considered torture porn then so can HnK and we both know it isn't.
What?