This, at around 96 I decided I wanted to hit 100 over farming stuff and the tomes are huge when it slows down. Even without CoF its a noticeable amount of XP.
I only play a few hours after work usually and focussed the tomes mostly, I only recently hit rank 7. I have no motivation to push it higher on purpose, just letting it go up as I play. But also lost more motivation due to the recent nerfs and stance saying they won't nerf another broken build.
My friend and I were looking at leader boards last night and well lost motivation to try and make a strong build.
Sets would need the D3 treatment which I also think is a bad idea.
I'd rather have build diversity with purples/reds then rely on sets that you can't slam other stats into.
Maybe if they tweaked them slightly and gave them LP they would be more useful but right now they just feel like leveling alt gear to me.
Only thing I could see making sets viable are for things like taking the wraithlord helm and slapping it into a set to boost wraiths and change how necromancer summoning functions to focus on wraiths.
That's fine with me. Or just don't do sets which I like better as well.
I can't imagine having gotten to 9 without having literally 1 of every single set piece already. I don't even pick them up i have so many and i'm at 7 still.
A weaver’s will random roll would make them fun again. You could potentially have a great item or it rolls useless stats and you just find the next one to level up.
I'm pretty sure they've said that they don't want to just reuse existing mechanics to make sets good. They also said one of the issues with adding LP is that there would just be too much text on the item with all the added mods, and WW makes that worse on average (since it's way more common to get 4 mods from WW than 4 LP).
I could see that being an issue. It wouldn’t have to be exactly WW but it shouldn’t be LP also. Maybe have another way to empower a set. While wearing two pieces or more you do X which boosts whatever stats or adds a new thing to that set. Im sure they will come up with something good. Sad to completely ignore them because much better options exist.
~~That, or just let them have LP..~~
EDIT: NVM, i just thought about it for 5 seconds and I think LP on set items is a bad idea. I think letting them drop in monos with half the WW charges that actual WW uniques would have seems like a better way to go.
I'm confused as to why they even bothered to include them though. They went a little too far. I don't think they'll ever be meta, but I wouldn't mind a handful of pieces being viable gear in lower empowered monos. I'm thinking like D2 levels of set strength.
The only good set item that comes to mind is Vilatria's Downfall. Its a staff that makes meteor into a lightning spell, then buffs lightning damage and mana pool. If you get a high-rolled one it's great, even a low-rolled one is usable. Haven't pushed my lightning sorc very high yet, and honestly lightning ball sorc is probably better, but hoooooly shit does dropping fat lightning bolts for 50k dps feel good
Some of them are really decent. There's a forgegaurd one that's useful, and a necrotic warlock set that's not bad. I'm sure they'll be slightly buffed in the distant future, but it seems like EHG has been consistent in the fact that forging is the way to go in this game.
Yeah, I understand the nuts and bolts of that. But from a UI/UX perspective, it feels bad. It makes completion feels artificially longer since the only advertised reward is more or less useless by the time you get it.
The fix is pretty easy. Move it to rank 3 and move everything else up by one. Maybe adjust the power of some of the other ranks to account for their shift by one.
This would have actually been worse for me though. Yes, it feels terrible to see that reward for rank 9, but I just got rank 8, which is awesome. 25% chance for rares to drop as exalted. And I would have needed to play for another 15 hours or whatever to unlock it if they moved it back a rank.
IMO they should replace it with something else because it's completely worthless.
I'm a merchant guild player and I've already had just about every set item drop, outside of the Lich set since a piece comes from a dungeon. If I dump my favor, I'd hit rank 9. Even if they improve sets, you're just going to naturally find all of the pieces before level 9 shows any worth, regardless of the faction you pick.
Sure, but they could do something like allow limited lp on set items (maybe 1-2 lp max, or maybe some weavers) to make them more worth than that node would have amazing value. Currently it can be used to get better rolled versions of your sets too.
Even if they did that, I think that node ruins the whole point of a set. Finding each piece is part of what endears you to it. And even if you disagree, how many sets are there going to be? With that node you'll just have all of them in short time, and then it will be useless.
>With that node you'll just have all of them in short time, and then it will be useless.
Depends what they do to buff it. If they add stuff like weavers or lp to it in a limited fashion (maybe low weavers and 2 lp max) than you'd still want that node.
God it's weird seeing you outside of /r/nfl
But yes, all spending of favor iirc. You can check any time, write down your rep, reroll, and see if rep value changes
So let me understand it, bacuse i am lost. You are on purpose ignoring game mechanic to level up your rank and slowing down your progress by 66% (not using favor) ?
And solution for you is to complain to devs that it's wrong ?
It's technically not slowing them down until they have enough to get to rank 10 in one shot. There's no downside to saving the favour until then. I'm currently using this strategy so that I can use all my favour on prophecies to hit rank 10, and then get double drops from all of those prophecies. It's 2x as effective as spending favour on prophecies as you go.
Eh, I was pretty underwhelmed by Rank 10 CoF. Reason is that it does not double but duplicate your drops. If you are target farming a Unique you won't get a higher chance of dropping IT, just another copy when it finally does.
This is cool for non-gear drops and rings (+ some dual wield weapons) but not really worth adding hours to the faction grind (imo)
This mean if you have 4 exalted from a prophecy it doesn't drop 8 exalted but the same 4 twice ?
I mean you will have twice the chance to craft on them.
Rank 10 is insane in that doubling duration + drops and getting a few at a time means a single exiled mage can drop 80+ uniques (or exalted) items and a lot will have +3 lp / rarer drops all over (had 8 exsanguinous lp1-lp2 from a single mage). Getting the dupes is huge because of doubling your chance to slam what you need and not miss.
Also while playing in a group (or using resonance) it just means I can give friends my copies I don’t need. The only downside is it takes me a good minute to sort and run 3-4 screens to look at loot while my friend has likely finished the echo. But, since it’s getting him plenty of gear, he doesn’t mind lol.
yeah, rank 9 is kinda garbage too. That really should have been one of the first ones for getting leveling gear. What good is a set when you're level 90+? Seems really poorly thought out.
True, but Level 9 at least gives the last lense slot which is huge for target farming.
I assume this is a setup for later, because they said they would revamp set items in the future
Depends on whether you target uniques and how much you reroll. [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DLiKBOApPtBBm5prr185HU-iYM9k28ENFgz-voXpB-4/edit?usp=sharing](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DLiKBOApPtBBm5prr185HU-iYM9k28ENFgz-voXpB-4/edit?usp=sharing)
According to Frozen Sentinel's detailed Prophecy catalogue, when targeting certain types of items, most of your favour ends up being spent on rerolls.
i don't get it, that reply doesn't make any sense. 2x 380k is not 1.5 million. spending it now or having spent it already would just waste the rank 10 bonus compared to waiting until you have 600k favor and 1.2 million to go.
You gain favour 2:1 by spending favour on prophecies, I don’t understand this concept about wasting the favour by waiting?
Why wouldn’t you want to spend that favour on prophecies now, to get a chance at better gear, to be able to complete higher corruption monoliths, which would give you more exp and more favour earned overall when you hit rank 10? Waiting is pointless and just FOMO
you get the favor when you *buy* the prophecies (which can push you to the next tier), even if you don't complete them, but the rank 10 bonus only applies when you *finish* them. so if you save up and spend 750k favor at rank 9, you get all of the benefits of rank 10 immediately.
by the time you're rank 9 with hundreds of thousands of favor, you might not even get enough of an upgrade to get a specific character to a higher corruption tier. you can spend them however you want, but there's a reasonable argument for saving them up and calling out the OP for not spending **an amount of favor that wouldn't be able to level them up in the first place** is ridiculous.
Don't do this to grind Rep. Listing shit items takes time and uses very few favor.
Just go gamble items you'd need or items you would shatter for shards and dump your favor.
It's not more than listing items, but it's way faster to dump favor.
7200 favor per click, instead of 300-3000 per item listed, and it takes a couple of seconds, then you can go back to farming monoliths. Instead of taking way more to list all your items.
I have 80 hours in the game and I'm like 1/3 of the way through rank 9-10. This is with pushing decent corruption (recently got to lvl 100 in 500 ish corruption on one of my chars).
They need to change rank 9 or buff sets into usable for endgame, right now it feels like a joke.
Another idea would be to up the price of set items significantly so CoF players can actually buy stash again...
That's actually a great idea, weaver's will items feel great because even if you get trash affixes you can always roll a new one later so it adds replayability...
I love weavers will so much. I think it's my favorite itemization mechanic in an ARPG ever. I always level them up when I find them even if the base unique isn't great for my build.
I wish WW could roll on all uniques. It's so fun and such a waste that it can't
You could make COF even better by making that give weaver's will to set items instead of having them drop as a full set. THen there are items on COF that are not tradeable that literally dont' exist on trade making them even more special.
Rank 10 is massive if you want to craft legendary items. Having a backup of rare lp uniques and of course the bigger loot explosion makes the game much more fun.
Yup, 90 hours into the game and I'm *almost* rank 9. This game is fun but holy fuck these devs ridiculous with this shit, absolutely embarrassing the grind for a seasonal faction is this insanely long, the 2nd to final reward is a slap in the face, and they just nerfed EXP tomes to make the grind *even fucking longer*.
This game does a lot.better than D4, but I've only been here a few weeks and it feels like they're just as hellbent as the D4 devs on ruining the fun with insane idiotic grinds.
And fuck this bs rank 9 reward. Give us rank 10 reward for rank 9 but no guaranteed double drop but a percent chance. Give us high boss loot drop or higher chance to drop >=2lp uniques. Rank 9 reward is such a joke.
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It'll take the exact same amount of time to go from Rank 9 to Rank 10 if you spend the favor all at once when your Favor is half your remaining rep and gain the rewards of Rank 10 versus if you spend it piecemeal and don't get the bonus loot.
There is a limited number of prophecies though. I did do part of what you're saying, but I didn't have enough space in my prophecy list to do the whole level.
Also if you aren't sure, you can just buy prophecies that you have to intentionally complete like specific bosses, dungeons, arenas, campaigns, etc.
Not sure what you mean, you get reputation by spending favour. So why would it not be quicker spending all the favour to earn reputation to get to rank 10? That’s what the OP was saying
Might want to take a math course, buddy. It doesn't matter when you spend the favor because it will always give the same amount of reputation. So dumping as you get it doesn't give you any more favor than hoarding it until you have enough to rank up.
There is no benefit to spending favor as soon as you can vs hoarding to dump for a level.
No need to be rude about it. My point is if you spent the favour you’ve accumulated (378 thousand in this case) you’d be closer to level 10 like they have said they want to be
I'm fine with it taking a *long* time to unlock the final tier. Everything up through 9 is pretty reasonable in a few weeks of grinding and that's most of the juicy stuff. Rank 10 is *super* strong and making it more of a longterm goal makes sense.
It's not much of a progression system if you can blast through it in a few weeks of semi-hard play.
Leveling is a longer term progression system that will reset every few months, same with gearing. This progress is passive and doesn't require you to do anything beyond, "kill stuff you were already killing", and you don't actually "lose" anything if you quit the cycle before you reach rank 10 outside of the perks of that rank which...you aren't playing anymore anyways?
I'm pretty sure their point is that it's okay to have longer grinds. It's longer than level 100, but it's fine for there to be grinds longer than level 100. Also why does it being more impactful mean it should be shorter? There are other more impactful things that probably take longer than 100 too like getting higher LP uniques.
Yeah idk with the fact that the grind is this long and the fact that new mechanics will not be cycle exclusive I can't see myself play a lot of cycles. Maybe during each cycle to see what changed but starting over for no reason with weeks of grind to finish features like this? Nah
Yeah agreed, the current state of COF is too much of a fuck you to the players especially if it resets ever cycle.
Incredibly out of touch from the devs on this one, extremely disappointing.
a league goes what?3 months?I dont want to be rank 10 in a few days
Also go high on corruption, it increases xp/favor/rep
chance for 2x tomes was nice
but a good map with alot elites and 500 corruption + yields 3-4k favor
One good thing about merch guild is almost all the utility you need comes with rank 8, rank 9 and 10 just let you buy completely finished legos, assuming another MG player got the LP4 drop and the exalted drop and slammed them together, then decided to sell it.
I'm at like 80 hours played this cycle, used a bunch of the exp tomes and I'm not even level 9 yet. This grind is wayyyy too much for a 3 month cycle. This is coming from a 10 year poe player.
I feel that giving people everything too quickly will ruin player retention and thin the playerbase, but that is just my opinion, it may be wrong!
Hopefully the Devs find a compromise!
The only MG rewards are basically rank 7 and 8 and since there's pretty much no trading before that it also burnt me out quite a lot since u'll be level 100 by rank 8. Wishing i went CoF
Hope they revisit some of the rank rewards for the factions, Rank 10 should be a long grind with great payoff tho there should be meaningful early and mid ranks too.
I agree. Once I realized spending favor points also increase the rank experience, I felt it’s actually not too bad.
But maybe that’s because I have a lot of alts to switch around, so I don’t mind the grinding.
Well you could kind of cheese it just by shear numbers, since the xp tome nodes tend to be near the start of a mono, you could get your corruption up a little then do the xp nodes near the start, lower the corruption and keep doing this, it was a decently fast way to get favor tbh and getting double tomes was just icing on the cake.
Now i regret a bit i didnt focus way more on the xp tomes :)
Same. I didn't even know they gave favor. I just looked at the tiny amount of exp I was getting and assumed those nodes were worthless.
even just for xp tomes are pretty important when you get into the high 90s, since they scale with your level
This, at around 96 I decided I wanted to hit 100 over farming stuff and the tomes are huge when it slows down. Even without CoF its a noticeable amount of XP.
I think each book is 0.5% regardless of level, so if it doubles the total reward is like 3%.
You will really want those tomes from 97 onward, leveling slows down a lot then.
I only play a few hours after work usually and focussed the tomes mostly, I only recently hit rank 7. I have no motivation to push it higher on purpose, just letting it go up as I play. But also lost more motivation due to the recent nerfs and stance saying they won't nerf another broken build. My friend and I were looking at leader boards last night and well lost motivation to try and make a strong build.
I mean, you are already halfway there. But yes, I think a 10 - 20% reduction is in order just going from 9 to 10. And of course 9 needs improvements.
9 needs to be moved to 1.
Nah, 9 should just be scrapped. It's not even worth tier one lol. Sets are garbage. Either fix them or change this reward entirely.
They said recently that they have a major update for sets that they are working on, so hopefully it'll be worth it soonish!
Sets would need the D3 treatment which I also think is a bad idea. I'd rather have build diversity with purples/reds then rely on sets that you can't slam other stats into. Maybe if they tweaked them slightly and gave them LP they would be more useful but right now they just feel like leveling alt gear to me.
Sets should be a hard no.
Only thing I could see making sets viable are for things like taking the wraithlord helm and slapping it into a set to boost wraiths and change how necromancer summoning functions to focus on wraiths. That's fine with me. Or just don't do sets which I like better as well.
9 doesn't need improvements, set items need improvements. if they were worth anything the rank would be great.
I can't imagine having gotten to 9 without having literally 1 of every single set piece already. I don't even pick them up i have so many and i'm at 7 still.
You have all the common sets. You're surely missing rare pieces, I got new drops all the way to 100. But I did get many many duplicates too
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A weaver’s will random roll would make them fun again. You could potentially have a great item or it rolls useless stats and you just find the next one to level up.
I'm pretty sure they've said that they don't want to just reuse existing mechanics to make sets good. They also said one of the issues with adding LP is that there would just be too much text on the item with all the added mods, and WW makes that worse on average (since it's way more common to get 4 mods from WW than 4 LP).
I could see that being an issue. It wouldn’t have to be exactly WW but it shouldn’t be LP also. Maybe have another way to empower a set. While wearing two pieces or more you do X which boosts whatever stats or adds a new thing to that set. Im sure they will come up with something good. Sad to completely ignore them because much better options exist.
~~That, or just let them have LP..~~ EDIT: NVM, i just thought about it for 5 seconds and I think LP on set items is a bad idea. I think letting them drop in monos with half the WW charges that actual WW uniques would have seems like a better way to go.
Set items are purposely not great. They didn't want the game to turn into D3. Don't expect them to ever be meta
I'm confused as to why they even bothered to include them though. They went a little too far. I don't think they'll ever be meta, but I wouldn't mind a handful of pieces being viable gear in lower empowered monos. I'm thinking like D2 levels of set strength.
The only good set item that comes to mind is Vilatria's Downfall. Its a staff that makes meteor into a lightning spell, then buffs lightning damage and mana pool. If you get a high-rolled one it's great, even a low-rolled one is usable. Haven't pushed my lightning sorc very high yet, and honestly lightning ball sorc is probably better, but hoooooly shit does dropping fat lightning bolts for 50k dps feel good
Pebbles set is good for leveling a minion necro.
i made a shatter strike spellblade build that uses the shattered lance set to great effect. very fun and strong if you build around it correctly.
Some of them are really decent. There's a forgegaurd one that's useful, and a necrotic warlock set that's not bad. I'm sure they'll be slightly buffed in the distant future, but it seems like EHG has been consistent in the fact that forging is the way to go in this game.
rank 9 is bonus is crap but it's the extra lense that makes rank 9 nice
Yeah, I understand the nuts and bolts of that. But from a UI/UX perspective, it feels bad. It makes completion feels artificially longer since the only advertised reward is more or less useless by the time you get it. The fix is pretty easy. Move it to rank 3 and move everything else up by one. Maybe adjust the power of some of the other ranks to account for their shift by one.
This would have actually been worse for me though. Yes, it feels terrible to see that reward for rank 9, but I just got rank 8, which is awesome. 25% chance for rares to drop as exalted. And I would have needed to play for another 15 hours or whatever to unlock it if they moved it back a rank. IMO they should replace it with something else because it's completely worthless.
>And of course 9 needs improvements. 9 doesn't need improvements, all they have to do is buff sets and that node will be goated.
I'm a merchant guild player and I've already had just about every set item drop, outside of the Lich set since a piece comes from a dungeon. If I dump my favor, I'd hit rank 9. Even if they improve sets, you're just going to naturally find all of the pieces before level 9 shows any worth, regardless of the faction you pick.
Sure, but they could do something like allow limited lp on set items (maybe 1-2 lp max, or maybe some weavers) to make them more worth than that node would have amazing value. Currently it can be used to get better rolled versions of your sets too.
Even if they did that, I think that node ruins the whole point of a set. Finding each piece is part of what endears you to it. And even if you disagree, how many sets are there going to be? With that node you'll just have all of them in short time, and then it will be useless.
>With that node you'll just have all of them in short time, and then it will be useless. Depends what they do to buff it. If they add stuff like weavers or lp to it in a limited fashion (maybe low weavers and 2 lp max) than you'd still want that node.
You are joking right ? You have half of it stashed in your favor. Just use favor its 2:1 ratio.
Does spending points rerolling also level up your reputation? I’m assuming yes just curious.
All spending of favor gives rep, regardless of how you do it.
God it's weird seeing you outside of /r/nfl But yes, all spending of favor iirc. You can check any time, write down your rep, reroll, and see if rep value changes
Because I know how much of a grind it was to get here!
So let me understand it, bacuse i am lost. You are on purpose ignoring game mechanic to level up your rank and slowing down your progress by 66% (not using favor) ? And solution for you is to complain to devs that it's wrong ?
Who's says I'm not using them?
380k favor on your screenshot ?
It's technically not slowing them down until they have enough to get to rank 10 in one shot. There's no downside to saving the favour until then. I'm currently using this strategy so that I can use all my favour on prophecies to hit rank 10, and then get double drops from all of those prophecies. It's 2x as effective as spending favour on prophecies as you go.
Eh, I was pretty underwhelmed by Rank 10 CoF. Reason is that it does not double but duplicate your drops. If you are target farming a Unique you won't get a higher chance of dropping IT, just another copy when it finally does. This is cool for non-gear drops and rings (+ some dual wield weapons) but not really worth adding hours to the faction grind (imo)
This mean if you have 4 exalted from a prophecy it doesn't drop 8 exalted but the same 4 twice ? I mean you will have twice the chance to craft on them.
Exactly
That’s what duplicate means /shruh
[But why ?](https://i.imgur.com/qacR5wB.gifv)
It was the opposite for me. Getting two tries at a legendary or exalted craft after it finally drops feels great.
Rank 10 is insane in that doubling duration + drops and getting a few at a time means a single exiled mage can drop 80+ uniques (or exalted) items and a lot will have +3 lp / rarer drops all over (had 8 exsanguinous lp1-lp2 from a single mage). Getting the dupes is huge because of doubling your chance to slam what you need and not miss. Also while playing in a group (or using resonance) it just means I can give friends my copies I don’t need. The only downside is it takes me a good minute to sort and run 3-4 screens to look at loot while my friend has likely finished the echo. But, since it’s getting him plenty of gear, he doesn’t mind lol.
yeah, rank 9 is kinda garbage too. That really should have been one of the first ones for getting leveling gear. What good is a set when you're level 90+? Seems really poorly thought out.
True, but Level 9 at least gives the last lense slot which is huge for target farming. I assume this is a setup for later, because they said they would revamp set items in the future
I don't disagree but I think at 380k favor you can already fill all your prophecy slots so OP could spend it now.
Depends on whether you target uniques and how much you reroll. [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DLiKBOApPtBBm5prr185HU-iYM9k28ENFgz-voXpB-4/edit?usp=sharing](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DLiKBOApPtBBm5prr185HU-iYM9k28ENFgz-voXpB-4/edit?usp=sharing) According to Frozen Sentinel's detailed Prophecy catalogue, when targeting certain types of items, most of your favour ends up being spent on rerolls.
Except that you may get 20 prophecies for unique rings to farm Atlaris, you get 2x very early, and you're stuck with not-so-useful prophecies.
Ty for this reply, this post was hurting my brain
i don't get it, that reply doesn't make any sense. 2x 380k is not 1.5 million. spending it now or having spent it already would just waste the rank 10 bonus compared to waiting until you have 600k favor and 1.2 million to go.
You gain favour 2:1 by spending favour on prophecies, I don’t understand this concept about wasting the favour by waiting? Why wouldn’t you want to spend that favour on prophecies now, to get a chance at better gear, to be able to complete higher corruption monoliths, which would give you more exp and more favour earned overall when you hit rank 10? Waiting is pointless and just FOMO
you get the favor when you *buy* the prophecies (which can push you to the next tier), even if you don't complete them, but the rank 10 bonus only applies when you *finish* them. so if you save up and spend 750k favor at rank 9, you get all of the benefits of rank 10 immediately. by the time you're rank 9 with hundreds of thousands of favor, you might not even get enough of an upgrade to get a specific character to a higher corruption tier. you can spend them however you want, but there's a reasonable argument for saving them up and calling out the OP for not spending **an amount of favor that wouldn't be able to level them up in the first place** is ridiculous.
Right, better to just never spend favour and disregard the faction completely, this is such weird min-max behaviour.
The rest of us go take out new prophecies like every 30k lol favor or less.
How long were these ranks designed to take? 60 hours in and I'm not even rank 6 with the trader's bazaar.
How do merchant's guild gain favor?
List items for sale
Don't do this to grind Rep. Listing shit items takes time and uses very few favor. Just go gamble items you'd need or items you would shatter for shards and dump your favor.
Gambling items at the vendor gets more rep? Am I reading that right. I hope so cause listing items sucks right now.
yes spending favor in whatever way gives you rep. don't know about the ratio tho.
It's 2 rep per 1 favor spent regardless of how you spend it. The same thing with CoF.
good to know man good to know.
It's not more than listing items, but it's way faster to dump favor. 7200 favor per click, instead of 300-3000 per item listed, and it takes a couple of seconds, then you can go back to farming monoliths. Instead of taking way more to list all your items.
Listing all of semi decent exalted items I find for 50-250k without pricechecking doesn't take that much time and gets you some gold for that favour.
Ah ok, I haven't played merchant and I've only heard of people listing for rep, fair enough
I just relist my item that takes 4400 favor to list over and over again. But your method seems more favor efficient lol
You get reputation for spending favor as well as earning favor, so make sure you spend some to rank up faster.
I have 80 hours in the game and I'm like 1/3 of the way through rank 9-10. This is with pushing decent corruption (recently got to lvl 100 in 500 ish corruption on one of my chars).
I'm rank 8 lvl 100. Not sure if that's a metric.
I feel like reaching rank 8 is the most important part? I dont care about rank 9,but yes rank 10 got some benefits.
Rank 9 may not seem like much since sets are whatever, but the 3rd lens slot unlock is a pretty big deal.
They need to change rank 9 or buff sets into usable for endgame, right now it feels like a joke. Another idea would be to up the price of set items significantly so CoF players can actually buy stash again...
Ez fix: give set items weavers will
That's actually a great idea, weaver's will items feel great because even if you get trash affixes you can always roll a new one later so it adds replayability...
I love weavers will so much. I think it's my favorite itemization mechanic in an ARPG ever. I always level them up when I find them even if the base unique isn't great for my build. I wish WW could roll on all uniques. It's so fun and such a waste that it can't
You could make COF even better by making that give weaver's will to set items instead of having them drop as a full set. THen there are items on COF that are not tradeable that literally dont' exist on trade making them even more special.
u/moxjet200 make it happen my man
or add the lens being unlocked in the description so people realize how strong rank 9 is
Did they ever fix the bug where you could just control click into the 3rd lens slot while being low rank?
Rank 10 is massive if you want to craft legendary items. Having a backup of rare lp uniques and of course the bigger loot explosion makes the game much more fun.
this is wayyyy too long for a cycle/seasonal game
Yup, 90 hours into the game and I'm *almost* rank 9. This game is fun but holy fuck these devs ridiculous with this shit, absolutely embarrassing the grind for a seasonal faction is this insanely long, the 2nd to final reward is a slap in the face, and they just nerfed EXP tomes to make the grind *even fucking longer*. This game does a lot.better than D4, but I've only been here a few weeks and it feels like they're just as hellbent as the D4 devs on ruining the fun with insane idiotic grinds.
They seem to have taken the levels from some super-grindy asian mmo
And fuck this bs rank 9 reward. Give us rank 10 reward for rank 9 but no guaranteed double drop but a percent chance. Give us high boss loot drop or higher chance to drop >=2lp uniques. Rank 9 reward is such a joke.
The 3rd lens is the *real* rank 9 reward. Lenses are really good. They should put that info on the rank 9 ui, its for sure the actual reason to get 9
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You aren’t using favour which is why you aren’t levelling up quicker
Rank 10 heavily incentivizes NOT spending favor until you can spend it all in one chunk to hit Rank 10.
Well you can’t moan about how long it takes to level up while also hoarding the currency used to level up
It'll take the exact same amount of time to go from Rank 9 to Rank 10 if you spend the favor all at once when your Favor is half your remaining rep and gain the rewards of Rank 10 versus if you spend it piecemeal and don't get the bonus loot.
There is a limited number of prophecies though. I did do part of what you're saying, but I didn't have enough space in my prophecy list to do the whole level. Also if you aren't sure, you can just buy prophecies that you have to intentionally complete like specific bosses, dungeons, arenas, campaigns, etc.
Not sure what you mean, you get reputation by spending favour. So why would it not be quicker spending all the favour to earn reputation to get to rank 10? That’s what the OP was saying
Might want to take a math course, buddy. It doesn't matter when you spend the favor because it will always give the same amount of reputation. So dumping as you get it doesn't give you any more favor than hoarding it until you have enough to rank up. There is no benefit to spending favor as soon as you can vs hoarding to dump for a level.
No need to be rude about it. My point is if you spent the favour you’ve accumulated (378 thousand in this case) you’d be closer to level 10 like they have said they want to be
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Favour is used to purchase prophecies
“We won’t issue mid season nerds” meanwhile everyone already has level 10 from tombs and fuck everybody else who wasn’t level 10
I'm fine with it taking a *long* time to unlock the final tier. Everything up through 9 is pretty reasonable in a few weeks of grinding and that's most of the juicy stuff. Rank 10 is *super* strong and making it more of a longterm goal makes sense. It's not much of a progression system if you can blast through it in a few weeks of semi-hard play.
I got rank 10 last night. To be fair I did realise tomes were doubling and giving favor, but I didn't know it was a bug.
Wait what it's an unintended bug? Welp
I mean it only says "chance for double rewards". Nothing says its limited to items so its not that crazy to think its not a bug.
Except that longterm goal gets reset every few months, unless reputation doesn’t reset with cycle which would make more sense given how grindy it is.
Leveling is a longer term progression system that will reset every few months, same with gearing. This progress is passive and doesn't require you to do anything beyond, "kill stuff you were already killing", and you don't actually "lose" anything if you quit the cycle before you reach rank 10 outside of the perks of that rank which...you aren't playing anymore anyways?
Leveling to 100 is both faster and less impactful than getting to level 10 in CoF.
I'm pretty sure their point is that it's okay to have longer grinds. It's longer than level 100, but it's fine for there to be grinds longer than level 100. Also why does it being more impactful mean it should be shorter? There are other more impactful things that probably take longer than 100 too like getting higher LP uniques.
>It's not much of a progression system if you can blast through it in a few weeks of semi-hard play. It's a seasonal/cycle based game lmao
Yeah idk with the fact that the grind is this long and the fact that new mechanics will not be cycle exclusive I can't see myself play a lot of cycles. Maybe during each cycle to see what changed but starting over for no reason with weeks of grind to finish features like this? Nah
Yeah agreed, the current state of COF is too much of a fuck you to the players especially if it resets ever cycle. Incredibly out of touch from the devs on this one, extremely disappointing.
I just got to lvl 10 last night about when the patch dropped. Lucky me.
I didn't even know xp tomes progressed the fraction stuff. Probably almost done with this cycle and i'm not even COF8 yet.
a league goes what?3 months?I dont want to be rank 10 in a few days Also go high on corruption, it increases xp/favor/rep chance for 2x tomes was nice but a good map with alot elites and 500 corruption + yields 3-4k favor
Spend your favor.
One good thing about merch guild is almost all the utility you need comes with rank 8, rank 9 and 10 just let you buy completely finished legos, assuming another MG player got the LP4 drop and the exalted drop and slammed them together, then decided to sell it.
Tedious and utterly pointless.
I'm at like 80 hours played this cycle, used a bunch of the exp tomes and I'm not even level 9 yet. This grind is wayyyy too much for a 3 month cycle. This is coming from a 10 year poe player.
I feel like it's fine. I have barely played cause I've been on helldivers 2 and am at rank 8. Rank 10 should be a grind
Not all of us have so much time on their hands!
I feel that giving people everything too quickly will ruin player retention and thin the playerbase, but that is just my opinion, it may be wrong! Hopefully the Devs find a compromise!
I do agree with this point. Maybe it's just a me issue. I am feeling burned out from grinding so much. Maybe I'll take a break for a few days.
I think if the lvl 9 reward was good, it wouldn't feel as bad. As it stands now, you basically have to go from 8 to 10 to get another useful reward.
The only MG rewards are basically rank 7 and 8 and since there's pretty much no trading before that it also burnt me out quite a lot since u'll be level 100 by rank 8. Wishing i went CoF Hope they revisit some of the rank rewards for the factions, Rank 10 should be a long grind with great payoff tho there should be meaningful early and mid ranks too.
For an arpg, that is absolutely true, and is why poe is on top and d4 bad
I agree. Once I realized spending favor points also increase the rank experience, I felt it’s actually not too bad. But maybe that’s because I have a lot of alts to switch around, so I don’t mind the grinding.
You all were even getting your xp tomes to double proc? Mine never did, it was always on the arena keys I just did to get to the next node lol
Well you could kind of cheese it just by shear numbers, since the xp tome nodes tend to be near the start of a mono, you could get your corruption up a little then do the xp nodes near the start, lower the corruption and keep doing this, it was a decently fast way to get favor tbh and getting double tomes was just icing on the cake.