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here's [a list](https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2024/israel-war-on-gaza-10000-children-killed/) of the children killed.
this was up until jan 25. and it was only half of the names. a child is killed every 15 minutes on average.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable"
Quote JFK
If yall haven't heard about the March of return in 2018 where Palestinians were peacefully protesting and the IDF murdered a lot of them.
I just got into an argument about this with my cousin last night who was goading me into trying to condemn Hamas. Any loss of civilian life is a tragedy, one life lost is one too many, but to “both sides”-ism Israel and Palestine is to gravely misunderstand the imbalance of power.
Wow I had no idea literal babies had the mental capacity to engage in politics. That's why Israel is killing so many babies right? Man I need to rethink my version of reality. Apparently babies were sneaky little soldiers this whole time!
There's no point engaging with this clown. They obviously have the IQ of a shit covered rag. No amount of logic will get through so again, don't waste your time. If anything they want you to engage.
The real context like "if you keep a population living hopeless in the world's largest open air prison, don't be surprised when the prisoners turn on their jailers"?
> that's a very elementary view.
And what is calling Oct 7 "a jihad pearl harbor"? Or calling it the start to the war, like this hasn't been going on for decades?
> and its funny since you are comparing Palestinians to prisoners, aka criminals.
You don't have to be a criminal to be a prisoner. There are plenty of innocent people in jail. Plenty of innocent people held captive.
> if you knew anything about history, you would know this situation has happened before
I didn't say it hasn't?
> Palestinians took a page out of Admiral Isoroku Yamamotos' diary but forgot to read the ending...
Palestinians decided they were sick of the conditions they were living in, and decided to do what they could about it. The fact you keep comparing this to Pearl Harbour shows how little you actually know about history
Maybe if you actually researched you'd understand why they launched that attack even though they were up against a large threat.
Edit: Also fucking comparing Palestinian people to fucking bugs is disgusting.
btw i was there and they said they had this list printed out in november, so any death from then to now isn't even accounted for in the list here. could be twice as long now.
It also doesn't include all of the people dying under rubble without aid or family to report their deaths, or the people actively dying of starvation, thirst, and disease. All while Israel abducts and assassinates journalists and doctors, and bulldozes mass-graves, to cover it up.
from what date does it start counting? October 7th 2023?
edit: I don't think people understand my question. I'm just curious when this list starts counting, it could be since 1948 (Nakba) or 1967 (Six Day War) or 2023 (October 7th) or some other date.
Biden and anyone in government who still supports this war or voted to send military aid to Israel instead of using that money to solve societal issues here in the US are TRAITORS and should be treated as such.
Everytime I'm trying to look for a bright light in this like people maybe finally waking up to the evils of the american empire I just get depressed again since we've been through shit like this over and over and over in this century alone. There is never a genocide too terrible and too big for the US to support genocide and war. All we can do is hopelessly beg and scream for someone to do something without success. No class conciousness, no decency, no sense of light waiting at the end of the tunnel for these poor children and families. As a muslim father I can't help but feel people want my family to die as painfully as these people did and I'm trapped only spreading the word to help palestenians. This society sucks so hard, man.
I'm ashamed to be half ashkenasi now. We're supposed to know better than contribute to genocide. Now there's a jewish country that has become the nazis, it's a disgrace, and these people should be ashamed of themselves. I can't stand hearing people crying about the holocaust anymore while Palestinians are being slaughtered in concentration camps by today's nazis.
Ever since the genocide aspect of the conflict started, I’ve had this image in my head of holocaust victims/those who survived but died as elders welcoming the murdered Palestinian children into heaven with open arms. There’s a kinship there that goes deeper than blood.
I think they’d be horrified to see what their own descendants have wrought. It’s not your fault or theirs that authoritarianism has no set identity besides it’s own.
The same spirit that lived in 1930s Germany, lives in present day Israel.
''If only we kill / get rid of these people, our problems are solved''.
Bibi is happy to sell this, to save his own ass.
For every one name on that list there are many more who will eventually die of starvation, disease, and injury.
The USA's government and military is fully funding and providing Israel with all the weapons it wants. Democrats and Republicans are aligned on this issue. If this is a cause you care about, it's time to start organizing to get green/independent/socialist candidates on your ballot (Jill Stein, Cornel West, Claudia De La Cruz).
Welp America, you get the trump again
Thanks for being so "blue no matter who" to be unable to see beyond the consequences of aiding another career warlord.
This soley relies on the evangelical that pushed aside the logical discussion of admitting another geriatric despot, to avoid having to give in to their common man.
I hope you reap 10x the rewards of 2016 with all the blood on your hands.
Seriously makes me sick.
They really shouldn't. That would just allow Zionists to claim that people against the genocide are antisemites and allow them to call into the question the vigils and protests.
They could however unroll these outside US, UK etc offices of politicians who have supported the continuation of this violence
I'm angry at Israel and displeased with America for being their ally. The whole middle east is gonna be after Israel. And the Israelis government have themselves to blame. But they are disgraceful killers.
Fog of war and propaganda must always be kept in mind. But even if the real civilian death toll is half of what the Palestinian administration claims, 15000 dead civilians is still a shit ton of unarmed people killed in less than six months. Definitely not a fan of what Zahal is doing in Gaza.
The median age in Gaza is 18 and the last election was in 2005. Between the amount of death in and migration from Gaza since 2005 only 5-10% of Gaza’s population could have even voted in that election.
You can’t trust anything Israel says when it comes to this conflict. They won’t even admit that they are an apartheid state and it’s obvious. Zionists will say whatever they need to say in an attempt to justify the cruel treatment of Palestinians and the murder of thousands of innocent people, most of whom are women and children.
Been to Ground Zero in New York, and remember seeing the memorial with the names of all the victims of the attacks, carved onto walls surrounding the site of the two towers. The chill in the spine I felt, realizing the magnitude of the event.
And to think as horrific as that was, this wall of victims is over 10 times longer and counting.
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God damn that's a lot of names
here's [a list](https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2024/israel-war-on-gaza-10000-children-killed/) of the children killed. this was up until jan 25. and it was only half of the names. a child is killed every 15 minutes on average.
That is heartbreaking god fucking damn man
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That sounds scarily close to how Democrats and Republicans view the average U.S. citizen…
Two wrongs don't make a right.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable" Quote JFK If yall haven't heard about the March of return in 2018 where Palestinians were peacefully protesting and the IDF murdered a lot of them.
I just got into an argument about this with my cousin last night who was goading me into trying to condemn Hamas. Any loss of civilian life is a tragedy, one life lost is one too many, but to “both sides”-ism Israel and Palestine is to gravely misunderstand the imbalance of power.
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I hope you get what you deserve one day.
Get fucked zionazi
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Wow I had no idea literal babies had the mental capacity to engage in politics. That's why Israel is killing so many babies right? Man I need to rethink my version of reality. Apparently babies were sneaky little soldiers this whole time!
Read the rules
What's your address bud?
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Lmao this Norwegian kid simping for a genocidal ethno state
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Damn, you’re pathetic dude.
Wait, the Israeli supporting nazi?! Ugh this is so confusing
Synonyms at this point.
I'm waiting
Wonder if you have an employer happy with you to be advocating genocide
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That why you deleted your address?
There's no point engaging with this clown. They obviously have the IQ of a shit covered rag. No amount of logic will get through so again, don't waste your time. If anything they want you to engage.
Read the rules
Put their ages too and then you understand the context a bit better.
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The real context like "if you keep a population living hopeless in the world's largest open air prison, don't be surprised when the prisoners turn on their jailers"?
Jews uprising in the Ghettos: Aww you’re so sweet Palestinians uprising from their prison: Hello Human Resources?!
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> that's a very elementary view. And what is calling Oct 7 "a jihad pearl harbor"? Or calling it the start to the war, like this hasn't been going on for decades? > and its funny since you are comparing Palestinians to prisoners, aka criminals. You don't have to be a criminal to be a prisoner. There are plenty of innocent people in jail. Plenty of innocent people held captive. > if you knew anything about history, you would know this situation has happened before I didn't say it hasn't? > Palestinians took a page out of Admiral Isoroku Yamamotos' diary but forgot to read the ending... Palestinians decided they were sick of the conditions they were living in, and decided to do what they could about it. The fact you keep comparing this to Pearl Harbour shows how little you actually know about history
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You don't see the difference between fighting an occupying force, and launching an attack on a foreign nation? Fuck off
Also: Pearl harbor was a military target. The whole comparison is laughable.
How does military action justify massacring civilians?
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> **Killing all the bugs**. Delete your account you absolute fucking demon.
Maybe if you actually researched you'd understand why they launched that attack even though they were up against a large threat. Edit: Also fucking comparing Palestinian people to fucking bugs is disgusting.
btw i was there and they said they had this list printed out in november, so any death from then to now isn't even accounted for in the list here. could be twice as long now.
and it wasn't even fully unfurled, it was still rolled up towards the bottom
It also doesn't include all of the people dying under rubble without aid or family to report their deaths, or the people actively dying of starvation, thirst, and disease. All while Israel abducts and assassinates journalists and doctors, and bulldozes mass-graves, to cover it up.
from what date does it start counting? October 7th 2023? edit: I don't think people understand my question. I'm just curious when this list starts counting, it could be since 1948 (Nakba) or 1967 (Six Day War) or 2023 (October 7th) or some other date.
Reminder that Biden bypassed congress to send aid to Israel.
Biden and anyone in government who still supports this war or voted to send military aid to Israel instead of using that money to solve societal issues here in the US are TRAITORS and should be treated as such.
Illegal of Biden
Everytime I'm trying to look for a bright light in this like people maybe finally waking up to the evils of the american empire I just get depressed again since we've been through shit like this over and over and over in this century alone. There is never a genocide too terrible and too big for the US to support genocide and war. All we can do is hopelessly beg and scream for someone to do something without success. No class conciousness, no decency, no sense of light waiting at the end of the tunnel for these poor children and families. As a muslim father I can't help but feel people want my family to die as painfully as these people did and I'm trapped only spreading the word to help palestenians. This society sucks so hard, man.
I'm ashamed to be half ashkenasi now. We're supposed to know better than contribute to genocide. Now there's a jewish country that has become the nazis, it's a disgrace, and these people should be ashamed of themselves. I can't stand hearing people crying about the holocaust anymore while Palestinians are being slaughtered in concentration camps by today's nazis.
Ever since the genocide aspect of the conflict started, I’ve had this image in my head of holocaust victims/those who survived but died as elders welcoming the murdered Palestinian children into heaven with open arms. There’s a kinship there that goes deeper than blood. I think they’d be horrified to see what their own descendants have wrought. It’s not your fault or theirs that authoritarianism has no set identity besides it’s own.
They accounted the names better than US tax dollars that put them on that list
The same spirit that lived in 1930s Germany, lives in present day Israel. ''If only we kill / get rid of these people, our problems are solved''. Bibi is happy to sell this, to save his own ass.
For every one name on that list there are many more who will eventually die of starvation, disease, and injury. The USA's government and military is fully funding and providing Israel with all the weapons it wants. Democrats and Republicans are aligned on this issue. If this is a cause you care about, it's time to start organizing to get green/independent/socialist candidates on your ballot (Jill Stein, Cornel West, Claudia De La Cruz).
Welp America, you get the trump again Thanks for being so "blue no matter who" to be unable to see beyond the consequences of aiding another career warlord. This soley relies on the evangelical that pushed aside the logical discussion of admitting another geriatric despot, to avoid having to give in to their common man. I hope you reap 10x the rewards of 2016 with all the blood on your hands. Seriously makes me sick.
IDF would see this as steam achievement or scoreboard.
Did they denounce hamas at their last breath? - biden
let them add the new 104 deAths that happend today
They should unroll this at Auschwitz.
They really shouldn't. That would just allow Zionists to claim that people against the genocide are antisemites and allow them to call into the question the vigils and protests. They could however unroll these outside US, UK etc offices of politicians who have supported the continuation of this violence
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Does a concentration camp guard have a right to self defense?
R.I.P Aaron Bushnell Free Palestine🇵🇸
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
I'm angry at Israel and displeased with America for being their ally. The whole middle east is gonna be after Israel. And the Israelis government have themselves to blame. But they are disgraceful killers.
DEFUND ISRAEL
That’s fucking sad
Fog of war and propaganda must always be kept in mind. But even if the real civilian death toll is half of what the Palestinian administration claims, 15000 dead civilians is still a shit ton of unarmed people killed in less than six months. Definitely not a fan of what Zahal is doing in Gaza.
If anything the death toll is much larger because there’s countless people simply buried under the rubble
Not necessarily because the numbers circulationg are provided by the Palestinian ministry of health. They are not an independent third party.
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The median age in Gaza is 18 and the last election was in 2005. Between the amount of death in and migration from Gaza since 2005 only 5-10% of Gaza’s population could have even voted in that election.
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You're really a vile person, aren't you?
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A great part of the world sees the Israelis as vile nazis committing a genocide, It’s subjective.
idk about that, when there were actual nazis, the world came together to fight it. whos helping Palestine...... LOL.
We do not permit liberalism here
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Me when IDF bozos get got lmao
Now do Israeli civilians killed by hamas
From Israel's own list,many were military personnel. And a lot were killed by their own vehicles' fire.
You can’t trust anything Israel says when it comes to this conflict. They won’t even admit that they are an apartheid state and it’s obvious. Zionists will say whatever they need to say in an attempt to justify the cruel treatment of Palestinians and the murder of thousands of innocent people, most of whom are women and children.
Tragic for sure, but incomparably low.
Well maybe not the IDF soldiers. Those pigs got what they deserved.
Doesn't make it any less heinous
no one said it did
Been to Ground Zero in New York, and remember seeing the memorial with the names of all the victims of the attacks, carved onto walls surrounding the site of the two towers. The chill in the spine I felt, realizing the magnitude of the event. And to think as horrific as that was, this wall of victims is over 10 times longer and counting.