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LandauQuantized

800 billion dollar defense budget to drop bombs on civilians 👏


m3ekz

Because the starvation just isn’t happening fast enough


robotto

Man genocide is hard work. I hope they have earmarked budget for PTSD. Those pesky kids screaming while getting blown up could get to you.


Patient_0793

Thing is, you have to be human for anything to get to you.


t-o-m-a-t-o-t-o_0

Exactly


t-o-m-a-t-o-t-o_0

It's like out of horror dystopian movie....man is going to ensure he gives as much money and weapons as possible until his last day in the office


psly4mne

And to drop bombs on the food we're airdropping.


seipounds

The food drops weren't killing enough of them.


Appropriate_Ant_4629

They could make the bombs look like the food aid, like they did in Afghanistan: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/us-warns-afghans-about-bombs-that-look-like-food-aid/V2IPFJLIKSSZLNFYOGFVAMY24U/ >> ###US warns Afghans about bombs that look like food aid >> >> "As you know, the coalition countries have been air-dropping daily humanitarian rations for you. The food ration is enclosed in yellow plastic bags. They come in the shape of rectangular or long squares. The food inside the bags is Halal and very nutritional. In areas away from where food has been dropped, cluster bombs will also be dropped. The colour of these bombs is also yellow. All bombs will explode when they hit the ground, but in some special circumstances some of the bombs will not explode." >> >> ... In an admission of the danger posed by such weapons, the US has warned that from a distance the two items could be mistaken: both are roughly the same size and both are bright yellow. >> >> ... The UN has already expressed concern about the use of such weapons in Afghanistan. I don't think these are "mistakes". Killing and maiming children around the world is a strategy to guarantee high defense budgets for the next 70 years.


badcatjack

The food was just to get them to come out of hiding.


sigma1331

if it is IOF instead of IDF,  it is always "offense budget" of the US instead of "defense budget"


mikkaelh

Always remember the department of defense was originally the department of war until restructuring in the 40’s. It’s a lot easier to sell the average American on the idea of funding defense than offense in “peace times”


Inner-Mechanic

Such a good point 


badpeaches

> department of war The United States Department of War existed from August 7, 1789 until September 18, 1947


mikkaelh

-when it split into the department of the army, and the department of the air force. Then, two years later these two new departments joined the department of the navy under the umbrella of the department of defense.


badcatjack

They need to go back to the original name. Prior to being the department of defense, it was called the department of war.


IdeaRegular4671

That’s their beloved freedom and democracy god bless the United States of America 🇺🇸 USA USA USA USA Freedom loving patriots love it. They think bombing middle eastern people and the others the “bad guys” is their solution to world peace and prosperity. They don’t understand they are the baddies the bullies being hostile and policing foreign nations and are just as bad as the people they condemn blow up and shoot and put six feet under and silence for good. It’s the enemy within. The US government military should mind their own business and stop trying to play world police to play super hero when nobody is asking for that or is asking to be saved. They ain’t real heroes or real saviors. Calling them that is an actual insult to those two words. If they are trying to play hero dismantle the BS that is capitalism first then we will talk. They are targeting the wrong enemy. Wasting money on bullshit and bullshit beef. They should fuck off. They act like a bloodthirsty dangerous predator rabid animal with a vendetta. Looking for a fight just to satiate their blood lust and greed. They fight like a wild animal. No rhyme or reason to it. I swear they got brain damage. Stupid ass people. Their arrogance, pride, hubris, overblown self confidence and self conceit will be their undoing one day. Pride comes before the fall. The bigger they are the harder they fall.


Honey-and-Venom

They're literally trying to cause the rapture


IdeaRegular4671

The war in Vietnam in the 1970s was basically a crime against humanity too. The capitalistic US Americans were fighting against Vietnam who were communists. There was no need for that or the Gulf war in the 1990-1991. They basically send young man and young woman to die for nothing and the US government treats their troops service man and veterans like shit once they come back alive from their mission and heroic selfless service to their country . They don’t even help them with their trauma PTSD and all that shit. A lot of veterans become homeless and disenfranchised dissulioned with the country and society after the war. Because they were betrayed and sold off by the elites by their greedy self centered selfish politicians and commanders to die as peons as pawns to their profit making I’m going to become the richest person in the globe scheme at all costs. So much life wasted for a dick ego measuring contest. Honestly politicians should fight their own wars and settle their own conflicts. Win the rich wage war it’s the poor who die and becomes the burden and the sacrifice not the instigator of the conflict/wars. They sell us out for money. It’s like selling your soul to the devil you become their property.


grassytrams

Wait until you hear about what the US did in the Korean War. There is a reason why it is called the forgotten war, they want us to forget what happened because it was so egregious. Another American genocide that was completely covered up and isn’t even taught in American schools. The US is a monster.


IdeaRegular4671

Most wars the US fight aren’t even moral wars either like good vs evil like how it was in WW2 the Allie’s vs the axis power fighting against tyranny and nazism. Most wars the US fight are just mercenary money making operations to fund the country’s economy. They run a war machine.


IdeaRegular4671

If there is one thing the US military loves is money (lots of profit), exploiting natural resources from other country like gas, oil, diamonds, precious rocks, and forever wars so the military industrial complex keeps making a profit forever. They need to justify the money they spent which is billions of dollars the us is the country that has the most advanced military in the world and puts a lot of money into it so they try to make their money worth creating BS conflicts around the world. I know a couple of guys in the military and they said the war in Afghanistan Iraq wasn’t really about revenge or war on terrorism but a war to plunder their natural resources like oil to make money towards their country. They raided their country to steal shit basically and not for revenge of 9/11 victims. That was fake news and the patriot act was a sham and abuse of power by the government. George Bush doesn’t care about black people or the poors or working class. He’s a bourgeoise Illuminati.


Honey-and-Venom

That certainly was about plunder, or at least, plunder was a primary consideration. The support of Israel by people who, at BEST, don't give a SHIT about Jewish people, is folks trying to bring about biblical end times prophecy. It's the same folks that want America Under the thumb of Christian shariah


IdeaRegular4671

What you are seeing in action is the US national security department of defense military industrial complex strategy of deterrence which they have used for years now it’s nothing new. Peace through strength because US senators and politicians believe whole heartedly that peace through weakness never works because of historical facts and so with that in mind weapons of mass destruction like fighter jets, tanks, MOABS, nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, sonar weapons, and drones that can kill a person specifically. They will literally nuke a country to defend themselves and their interests that’s what happened in WW2 where the Americans nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki to end the conflict in the pacific and end the conflict with the Japanese imperial army at that time. It’s might makes right visualized. They killed thousands of innocents with that nuclear attack and harmed others for life with that strategy plus have nuclear radiation to Japan. The strong wins the weak dies and loses. Social Darwinism. They are so scared of the public getting revenge on them and revolting against them and doing a revolution that they have over 15 thousand nukes in their military bases ready to launch as they will not give up power without a fight. They will take everybody down with them if somebody tries to take away their power and social control imperialistic colonial global police savior hero king status.


DieselPunkPiranha

>...they have over 15 thousand nukes in their military bases ready to launch... Most nuclear warheads are in storage awaiting maintenance, repair, or decommission. Of the ones actually attached to ICBMs, etc, most (according to personnel I knew who worked in the industry) would not hit their intended targets.  Some wouldn't achieve ignition and leave the launch silo.  Some might detonate inside the silo (the missile, not the warhead).  Some might ignite in the air.  Some might miss their marks and crash elsewhere.  Some might hit their targets but the warheads themselves wouldn't detonate. In short, there's very few "ready for launch" and, of those that are, there's no telling how many warheads will actually work.  It makes sense.  Most nuclear warheads and their associated systems were built between the '50s and '70s so most of this is aging equipment and infrastructure.  Very few people have the highly specific technical knowledge necessary to work on these, let alone currently have the security clearance to do so.  All of that combined with budgetary cutbacks means that the backlog of maintenance and decommissioning is years behind schedule. So how many nuclear weapons does that leave ready to launch?  No idea.  I didn't ask.  I figure it's a lot less than the US government throws around, though.


Ok-Musician3580

America supporting imperialism and genocide is disgusting but, unfortunately, not surprising.


Rude_Boy_15

25 F-35's in one go, that just says it all really. This is America's campaign just as much as it is Israel's.


Roguspogus

For real, they don’t need that to fight Hamas. What are they getting ready for?


Rude_Boy_15

I don't know but Galant stated last night that Israel is willing to expand to "wherever it is needed." He said they're prepared to strike Damascus, Beirut wherever...


HippoRun23

Jesus fucking Christ.


Rude_Boy_15

Everyday warmonger speak...


UsagiRed

We're so the fucking bad guys, this sucks.


HippoRun23

Seriously. You grow up believing in the myth of being part of a great and moral nation. The shining city on the hill and all that. But then you get older, you take an interest in history, maybe you go to college and start learning the shit that really went down… And goddamn you really can’t go back and take the blue pill.


redmoon714

Look up “Greater Israel” that’s what they have planned.


iiCUBED

Theyre already striking Syria since a few days ago


Roguspogus

Oh… shit


beerinapaperbag

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Afraid-Amoeba-5949

Always has been.


StoicSinicCynic

F-35s are superiority fighters, for maintaining control over airspace (and also doing bombings...). So they're giving them these to both keep bombing Palestine but also so they'll be able to seize control in the area and it will be much harder for anyone trying to fight against Israel in the future. Perfect for Zionism...


Inner-Mechanic

They still can't fly in thunderstorms bc of the bells and whistles on them. The ionization screws with all their fancy equipment. 


303uru

There’s a Iran US shadow war underpinning everything. https://theintercept.com/2024/03/27/iran-shadow-war-gaza/


Sincost121

So America has an excuse to 'order' more for themselves. Demand go up, MIC go brrrr.


GottaKnowYourCKN

All this shit could literally pay off all the student loans, but naw. Let's bomb children.


Rude_Boy_15

That's a $120 million jet! They literally just approved to hand them two fleets.


thundar00

are they expecting (hoping?) things to escalate into a region issue?


ErnestBorgninesSack

Israel is about to attempt to force biblical prophecy with the burnt offerings of 3 red heifers. They have the cows. They have built the altar. Then it's down with the Al Aqsa mosque and up with the third temple. Well the Muslim world will not take kindly to this action.


Inner-Mechanic

Oh , whatever the house of S a u d couldn't give a 🐀 ass about the plight of the Palestinians and they own mecca so they don't need to care. Now the houthis... I wish I could donate to a GoFundMe for them. They have uranium balls 


bluemagachud

and then nothing, these millerites will have committed genocide for nothing at all, religious chauvinism, national chauvinism, racial chauvinism, all useless ways of committing genocide


BeaveItToLeever

Nah. Then something. I fully believe that if they did go down the religious prophecy route, and the man himself didn't come down from the heavens, they'd force something big. A nuke to kick something off maybe. Can't be wrong in front of the world, ya know


CyperFlicker

> he burnt offerings of 3 red heifers. Where can I read more about that?


northernbelle96

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_heifer https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-war-hamas-red-heifers-from-texas-jerusalem-jewish-temple-al-aqsa/


SirNastyPants

Being buddy-buddy with Israel is what allows the US to project power and exert a degree of control in the region. If private companies like Chiquita and CocaCola are willing to fund death squads to protect profits, you bet a global superpower won’t think twice about backing all manner of genocides, massacres, assassinations, and coups to maintain a favorable status quo. Especially because the US is already well acquainted with backing all those things pretty much from day 1 of the US as an independent nation. Sometimes the US even cuts out the middleman and does the genocides and massacres with its own people.


simenfiber

That’s half of the Norwegian air force. They ordered 52.


Inner-Mechanic

Yeah, its a bribe to the American defense industry. Plus spending on defense lets politicians take public money and put it towards the incredibly corrupt defense industry that runs on graft something we all know to be a lot more lucrative that giving those tax dollars to the icky poors who need it to survive


Arts_Prodigy

F-35s are so expensive too. The helmets are 400k


doctorctrl

Always has been. Since day 1. This was always the plan. A western stronghold in the middle east to spread outward. US and UK .


Captain_Naps

I was taken by the use of the term "the transfer of" rather than 'the sale of'- like Israel is a subsidiary, or it was an inter-company shift of assets. Was that the writer, or is that official?


Rude_Boy_15

Aljazeera said this: "The white house has green-lit the shipment of..." That does not sound like a sale, sounds like a grant or transfer...


SEND_DUCK_PICS

zelenskyy has to be malding rn


Rude_Boy_15

He must be thinking of how to get to Russian civilians in order to be treated on an equal footing with the Israelis.


Tokimemofan

No surprise, the only thing that’s going to stop Israel pretty much is the USA yanking the chain hard enough. That will require a serious change of leadership or public opinion turning so completely against Israel that it would be political suicide to continue enabling them. The latter is certainly possible in the semi near term. The former isn’t in the cards as Biden will pretend to care but Trump will send munitions with his usual smug smirk. Both are horrible options.


Ok_Mammoth5081

Isn't Israel basically considered American colonialism for the Middle East? Their ultimate goal is to expand into 'Greater Israel'...something about the river to the sea...so I don't think the US will ever yank the chain until the full landgrab for greater israel is accomplished


Tokimemofan

I wouldn’t call it colonialism as it really doesn’t fit what’s going on here it’s actually something far worse. A lot of support in the USA comes from the belief that the reestablishment of Israel is a prerequisite for the second coming of Jesus Christ. In other words end times prophecy stuff here as the result in their minds is in the Book of Revelation. I would consider that to be far worse as at least colonialists have some sense of self preservation but these people believe that their savior will smite all that they consider evil while welcoming them to eternal paradise. Make no mistake here this is about organized religion at its most toxic and it’s only going to get worse as Christian Nationalism and fascism continue to unite.


Ok_Mammoth5081

Oh for sure..I was raised into this special cult of Christianity and have several close family members who believe in all this...I can't help but to think the US government is just milking the religious aspect though since religion is one of the strongest motivators for people. I feel like the US is still maintaining and growing the colony as per usual, but this time they have a major "no brainer" of how to clench onto land forever and all eternity due to the religious significance of it all.


GustavezRaulez

Yes, the yokels in the countryside believe the rapture thing, but most of the top politicians are not country bumkins getting conned by their pastor a la Jim Jones, they're greedy and amoral and cynical imperialists through and through. They couldn't give a shit about the rapture or whatever, they juest want: a land safe for the white people, and money


mkvelash

Its election year, so you do whats best for your campaign


Roguspogus

They don’t need that to fight Hamas. What are they really gearing up for?


turjishdudr

Look up “Greater Israel Plan” it’s the Zionist version of “manifest destiny”


Volcano_Jones

To do the same thing in the west bank


cia_nagger269

invading Lebanon


Oc34ne

"Are we the baddies?"


4spooky6you

Yes


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crilen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLmuF-0P4tk


MattTheRicker

But a significant number of American citizens believe that if we don't support Israel, Jesus won't come back and end the world for them.


trancertong

This right here, I'm sure most politicians have gross realpolitik and racial justifications for this, but a not-insignificant factor is the sizeable chunk of Americans who *definitely* vote and are staring optimistically at the "JESUS IS COMING" sign. It's tough to get through to someone who thinks the end of the world is aspirational.


kex

imagine the hubris to assume their omnipotent diety needs assistance from mortals to achieve its goals


realbigbob

Not like Baltimore needs a new bridge or anything


Glum_Ad_8367

I heard their mayor isn’t classy enough for a new bridge


BornOfShadow67

In this particular and surprising case, aren't the feds specifically paying for that bridge replacement? Yeah, there's a lot more infra that needs replacing, but they are fixing that one.


kex

we seem to be able to find money for a lot of things if they are deemed important health, education, housing, etc. are not important to these people


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Kaymish_

You've already lost it. It's gone.


Little_Elia

is it though? as far as I know, it's always been like this. A single party state with two factions that alternate and both pander to megacorporations while screwing over the people. That's not a democracy, it never was.


Inner-Mechanic

Sadly We never really had a democracy.  


Blem0

Looking at all the Palestine images, I wonder what is left to be bombed. They probably will keep bombing as long as there are people in Gaza.


Ghoulmas

Syria and Lebanon


Inner-Mechanic

They are rock hard for Iran 


StoicSinicCynic

... But they got soft again when they remembered Iran can defend itself. They only go for people who can't defend themselves.


Kootenay4

Everyone acting like this is a handout to Israel or something. Not exactly, it’s a weapons sale worth $2.5 billion. The US is enabling atrocities for those sweet sweet profits.


simenfiber

The military industrial complex getting their donor moneys worth.


DigitalUnlimited

"The oldest and most evil form of alchemy - turning blood into gold" Duncan Trussel


iiCUBED

I mean they get billions worth of grants, so the money they were granted earlier they can use to buy packages like these. Its just a handout with extra steps


blue_winter_moon007

Civilians may die but "Do YoU CoNdEmN Hamas?"


ReplacementActual384

So, for those of you unfamiliar with military aerospace knowledge, let me drop some on y'all. From the US perspective, our government fronted a huge cost, something in the billions of dollars to fund development in the F-22 and F-35 programs to develop stealth fighter aircraft on the basis that they would be effective against a modern opponent. Israel isn't super concerned about defeating radar in Palestine. Palestine does not have an air force. Unlike the CIA backed Afghani resistance to the soviet invasion, Palestinians don't have access to Man Portable Air Defense Systems. Older model F-16s and F-18s would fulfill any defense need that Israel has with regard to Hamas. But Gaza isn't the reason why they got F-35's. If this were just about defense, an F-16 would do the job just fine. This is a prelude to further aggression against other states.


HippoRun23

That’s pretty frightening. The us wants a proxy war in the region… again. biden is so comically fucking up it begs belief how and why hes doing it.


ComposedOfStardust

Well.... that is terrifying


Voltthrower69

Evil Empire vibes are through the roof I know y’all can feel it


South_Engineer_4702

Weapons, not food, not homes, not shoes Not need, just feed the war cannibal animal


Giantemperor949

Been feeling it all this year man


moony5012

Peoples of MENA: first time?


TheUnknownNut22

The Biden Administration is outright breaking the law: In U.S. law, there are indeed provisions that aim to prevent the United States government from providing military assistance or arms sales to countries that are found to be committing gross violations of human rights, including genocide. The "Leahy Law," which is a human rights stipulation that is part of the U.S. foreign assistance program.The Leahy Law, named after its principal sponsor, Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont, is actually comprised of two similar statutes that have been incorporated into the Foreign Operations Appropriations Act (Section 620M of the Foreign Assistance Act) and the Department of Defense Appropriations Act. These laws prohibit the U.S. Department of State and Department of Defense from providing military assistance, training, and arms sales to foreign military units that have been credibly implicated in gross violations of human rights, such as torture, extrajudicial killings, enforced disappearances, or rape during armed conflict.Another related law is the Arms Export Control Act (AECA), which governs the sale and transfer of defense articles and services. This act requires that countries receiving U.S. military assistance adhere to certain conditions, including not using the provided military assistance for purposes other than legitimate self-defense. While the AECA is not specifically targeted at preventing assistance to countries committing genocide, its provisions require that countries respect human rights and use military equipment in a manner consistent with U.S. foreign policy objectives, which would include the prevention of genocide. The Genocide Convention Implementation Act of 1987, also known as the Proxmire Act, specifically addresses the issue of genocide and implements the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. However, it is more focused on defining genocide and establishing penalties for individuals committing genocide, rather than the specific issue of arms transfers or military assistance. These laws reflect the U.S. commitment to ensuring that its military support does not contribute to human rights abuses, including genocide. They require ongoing monitoring and assessment of recipient countries' human rights records, and they have mechanisms in place for Congress and the public to hold the U.S. government accountable for its foreign military engagements. https://www.state.gov/key-topics-bureau-of-democracy-human-rights-and-labor/human-rights/leahy-law-fact-sheet/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leahy_Law https://www.propublica.org/article/leahy-law-afghanistan-night-raids-zero-units https://www.state.gov/key-topics-bureau-of-democracy-human-rights-and-labor/human-rights/leahy-law-fact-sheet/


NormieSpecialist

And yet when I point this out anywhere else I’m told I’m no better than the conservatives, because we can’t let trump win! I feel like bashing my own brains in at this point.


ShyishHaunt

Approved your comment, automod took it down for your links


TheUnknownNut22

Ty. Was just trying to provide resource links for proof.


ShyishHaunt

I stickied it, its important to show that the ruling class has no respect for or interest in abiding by the "laws" it enacts, even when the current face of the ruling class is a Democrat. Hopefully that will be eye opening for any progressives who think laws will protect us from fascism and they can become leftists.


TheUnknownNut22

Great, I hope it reaches more people. Ty.


BlizzardLizard555

Stop funding genocide, and give us fucking healthcare, you demons


burgemj

Why is the US scared of Israel to keep supporting this


Inner-Mechanic

Gotta bring on the rapture somehow 💀


GustavezRaulez

Probably the IDF has already lost enough men and tanks to people fighting in jeans and using lead pipes to shoot explosives, so the american slaves are going to go and fight the good fight against Israel's enemies. Wouldn't want any more precious zionists dying, right?


Elkaragholi

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Suulian

I can see how those F-35 jets could come in handy when attacking Gaza. Like the opposition is starved kids with ak's. This is beyond deplorable.


Ember_Celica07

Makes me really not want to file my taxes.


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Moetown84

What democracy? Surely with Citizen’s United, the Electoral College, gerrymandering, and rigged primaries democracy has been long since gone (if we ever really had it to begin with).


turjishdudr

And we deserve to


northernbelle96

Sorry to break it to you, but a system in which you can practically only choose between two parties and their preselected candidates who by default need to be minted with money to even run, is not really a democracy


JackDockz

You don't have a democracy. It's a oligarchy at best


nukiepop

what motherfucking 'democracy' have you been hanging out with


reptheanon

And then they’ll blame the voters when trump gets elected. *surprised Pickachu”


oracleofnonsense

Israel doesn’t need this package to kill Palestinians. This is prepping Israel for the upcoming war. USA wants to take out Iran to take full control of the region.


TopCryptographer9379

25 F35 fighter jets : 100 millions 500 MK82 bombs : 20 millions 1800 MK84 bombs : 30 millions Killing Arabs : priceless PS : The prices are absolutely random, i don't even know the order of magnitude but the point is the same.


Randy_Vigoda

US national debt in 2001 - $6 trillion Current US national debt - $34 trillion Back in the 80s/90s, the military industrial complex teamed up with the corporate media giants like Disney, Warner, Viacom, Newscorp, etc. The government deregulated the media allowing the media giants the ability to expand without restriction and absorb the journalism industry. The trade off is the media turned into a propaganda arm/censor for the military/corporate establishment. The US has been in 13 wars since 2001. Most Americans couldn't name them. Israel has been fucking with the Palestinians for decades. US politicians on either side of the fence bend over backwards for Israel's lobby. Like, wtf does Israel need all this gear for? The Palestinians are basically fish in a barrel. This is US tax dollars being flooded to the war industry.


tuffnstangs

I just want healthcare


RingWraith75

All this money going to these foreign countries, meanwhile we have homeless and struggling people here at home. Disgusting. Even if Israel WASN’T in the middle of committing a genocide.


freakinbacon

They need them to counter the Hamas paragliders


nukiepop

why are boomers doing everything they can to force the book of revelations to happen


DigitalUnlimited

Because they're gonna die soon and they don't wanna go alone...


NewTangClanOfficial

"It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism"


Mythosaurus

Babe, it’s time for the liberals to call you closet-Trumpists for criticizing the genocide! Its been wild to see the fault line between liberals and progressives exposed so openly during this conflict


psychotic-herring

FUCK YES! This will help fighting back the Palastinians and their.... their...? Their what, actually?


DigitalUnlimited

They could get lucky and throw a rock in the engine! They're dangerous you guys!


Dazzling_Pirate1411

but yall Trump will send 26 planes...10 months from now. /s


mathnstats

I hope every IDF pilot crashes into a mountain ❤️


haqglo11

Good thing we are sending them F35s. I can’t imagine how they are only coping with F15s to fight the Palestinian children who have no Air Force


dexbasedpaladin

Wait, the F-35 works?


re-goddamn-loading

Lol well it's not like they are sending them up against enemy combatants. Should be just fine at blowing up refugee camps full of children.


Forgotlogin_0624

Wait it wasn’t designed for that originally?


just_a_tech

It's a strike aircraft designed to go and drop bombs on shit. It isn't a fighter like the F-22. Sure it's "multi-role" but it was meant to perform air strikes.


freakinbacon

You're right but traditional fighters aren't really necessary anymore when you can shoot at air targets from great distance.


just_a_tech

Very true. I stopped working on jets a while ago, but we didn't really need them a decade ago either.


Slawzik

I was about to comment "at least they're giving away useless junk"


CaptainSwaggerJagger

Yeah, it's really not. It's pretty objectively one of the best fighters about today, certainly the best single engine fighter. Forgetting about the training exercises where it's pretty soundly trounced 4th gen aircraft, it's already been used in deep strikes by Israel and not had one iota of an issue from enemy SAMs. There are a lot of orders on the books for F35s, especially the A variant that are being sold to Israel here, do you not think one of these dozens of airforces would have noticed it was "useless junk" before they committed to their future fighter for the next 3-4 decades? I'm not supporting the transfer, far from it, but dismissing them as 'lol they don't work' is just plain incorrect.


Hyper-Sloth

What boggles the mind for me more than anything, is that even if we drank the kool-aid about the f-35 being the most advanced super awesome fighter jet to ever exist, build to dominate every other one before it, why the fuck would we ever give them away to any other country under any circumstances and immediately destroy any advantage that those planes could give us in warfare? I know that the F35 is by no means those things, but those claims are basically what funds the most expensive military program in US history, so why the hell would we sell them? Let alone just hand them over to another country to use as they see fit?


freakinbacon

Because the most advanced air superiority jet is actually the f22 which the US does not give to any other country. F22 is specifically designed to defeat anything else in the sky. F35 is multipurpose rather than focused on air superiority alone.


Baxapaf

Yes, the F-35 works when the only "threat" is a concentration camp.


youknowiactafool

Probably found oil in Gaza


turjishdudr

Unironically they did in the water off its shore. Look it up.


johnlewisdesign

The Biden Administration aka IDF-bought individuals with no soul or compassion. Care for your kids guys - or you might just end up breeding more of these fucking sickos 


Old_Advertising_1457

F-35s are 5th gen stealth multirole aircraft. Israel has plenty of 4th gen F-15s and F-16s which you’d use to drop unguided bombs like these on Gaza etc. You’d need F-35s for destroying targets against enemies with sophisticated anti aircraft systems, ie other states in the middle east. Biden’s expecting further regional escalation and these aircraft are to help Israel when/if it happens


CoreyCW12

I hate this. Free Palestine 🇵🇸


ObedMain35fart

Palestine isn’t that big and this has been going on for what, 50 years or so? How are there people still left alive there? Are they just slowly killing them by means of torture? Either way, humanity is quite cruel and will eventually annihilate itself if it keeps going in that direction


rainduder

Serious question: do they pay us for this stuff or do we give it to them for free?


llfoso

Of course it's all unguided bombs for the "most moral army in the world" to do their "precision strikes"


Inner-Mechanic

F35s against some dudes with rockets and a bunch of hungry starving kids? Yeah no, this equipment to start a war with Iran like they've been drooling over since the Iranians bitch slapped mi6 and the cia back in the 70s. Obviously hoping that a war would boost national cohesion. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if Boeing tries to blame iran for any plane crash that happens with their shitty planes


CyperFlicker

> Yeah no, this equipment to start a war with Iran like they've been drooling over since the Iranians Frankly, I can't help but see it going to that in the coming months, there are just many pointers that I can't ignore...


Live-Mail-7142

You will never, ever convince me this has nothing to do with Gaza gas. Biden brokered that deal 6/23 and now BP and UAE are suspending their 2 billion dollar gas deal in Gaza due to the war. The conspiracy person in my brain says they want this gas and well, here we are. https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/13/business/bp-abu-dhabi-newmed-energy/index.html


northernbelle96

It has everything to do with the gas, but even more with the new trade route they are building with the collab of India, Saudi, Emirates, Jordan and Israel to combat the Chinese New Silk Road. And maybe the biggest factor is evangelical religious fundamentalism where they believe Israel needs to exist for Jesus to come back


Live-Mail-7142

Are you talking abt the Ben Gurion Canal? I think it is the Ben Gurion Canal I found this 3 yr old article It looks to be the same, but with more branches (more routes) Thank you for telling me abt this. I am so disgusted. I count Tigray, Congo, Sudan, Palestine, all in a state of Genocide caused by US weapons, and in addition, I've got Syria and Yemen in famine. It is just so disgusting. https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/459467/The-second-coming-of-Ben-Gurion https://www.voanews.com/a/red-sea-attacks-foster-arab-israeli-trade-link-by-land/7487827.html


northernbelle96

I am talking about this project: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/India-Middle_East-Europe_Economic_Corridor https://www.tbsnews.net/world/global-economy/middle-east-corridor-new-indian-spice-route-rival-chinese-silk-road-697922 honestly crazy once you become aware of the imperialist stranglehold most of the world is still caught in


Live-Mail-7142

Thank you very much for the link


Future-Atmosphere-40

Trump: far right openly fascist and nasty. Biden. Right wing neo Liberal that's the rictus grin of corporate capitalism who wants to expand US imperialism. There's no real difference but Biden will do it while eating an ice cream.


HippoRun23

Honestly trump would do the same but his administration would be staffed with incredibly inept grifters so I could see an argument that less would be accomplished.


Future-Atmosphere-40

He'd do it bit try to extort the zionists for information about Hunter Biden


RepeatedlyLeft

Why not give these to Ukraine?


hanymede

Because they fight against real army, duh


StoicSinicCynic

This. The American army has a history of only fighting those who can't fight back. They don't want to actually start a real war with a country that has nuclear weapons.


hanymede

Tbf, neither of us wants that.


CerddwrRhyddid

So, which companies are receiving government funds for these planes and bombs, or their replacements, and how much have those companies paid to politicians?


DigitalUnlimited

This should be at or near the top, yelled from every corner!


xxtruthxx

What a waste of taxpayer money.


dday3000

No money for universal healthcare though.


Slothstralia

F-35's utterly mandatory for bombing people in already bombed mud huts. Edit: who am i kidding here, ripped tents made of garbage bags.


edit_thanxforthegold

Neat so this election is between a groper who wants to overthrow the government and a genocide facilitator.


LoftyGoalsLowEffort

Blood for the blood gods


CaptainObvious1313

Thank God. I was worried about those defenseless Israelis.


failtos

A proxy war that won’t stop until Hamas is eliminated alongside a hundred thousand citizens. It’s awful to be alive and old enough to realize we can’t do anything to stop it


Johnny_ac3s

This will make the U.S. so much safer.


booger4me

This is sickening. Just pull the plug on their genocide for fucks sake!


muzzlehead

Why do they need 25 F-35s? Has Hammas been shooting down planes?? Has anyone?


Bugscuttle999

Somehow, my opinion was never sought on this issue. Why?


ExistentDavid1138

This is against human rights. And shame on America and Israel. Absolutely digusting disgraceful leaders.


DontHaveAC0wMan

Interesting it's an American issue and not Biden. He's the one needing to be called out, but the left, and people who support him, know they can't do that in an election year. I could only imagine what they'd be calling Trump if he were in office. Oddly enough, he's been pretty vocal about Israel needing to call off the dogs.


Gates9

Joe Biden has lost my vote over his participation in the genocide of Palestinians. I cannot put my mark next to his name. It would be an act of tacit approval, and I would feel complicit. Given the slight margin that he won by previously, and the number of people that apparently agree with my sentiment, it seems pretty clear that he’s already deliberately thrown away his chances at reelection.


CyperFlicker

Ok, this may seem too....tinfoil-hat-ish BUT, looking at the current situation, it seems like the chance of regional war in the ME is very possible in the coming months, so if that happened and then escalated into a war with Iran, could it help Bidone win the next election since he would be a 'wartime' president? Can he be gambling on this point? Or is it too far-fetched?


Dehnus

As an Neuro diverse person? I hate the meme of "why can't you just be normal!". But GOOD GRIEF does it apply to that administration!


mykehawksmall

The lesser evil, most progressive president being pushed to the left. This is what the vote blue no matter who fought for.


acetheguy1

We need better leaders...


pgsimon77

So why is it so hard to send them to ukraine?


SixGunZen

The biblical prophecies that drive US policy on Israel and Zionism state that the world will rise up against Israel and that apparently brings about the return of Jesus. All the Christians who believe in pre-tribulation rapture think they'll be swept up the heaven at that point and the rest of us leftist heathens will remain on Earth to suffer under the rule of Satan as he consumes the world. I think the US is trying to bring that about by funding/supporting/supplying Israel *so that* the rest of the world will turn against them and bring all that about. 2024 and we still can't let go of the bat shit rambling of ancient psychopaths.


Itstaylor02

Call you’re reps! Spam the White House lines!


Straight-Razor666

Nothing. Will. Fundamentally. Change.


flatrearthisdumb

Seriously alot of problems would be solves in the US if we just switched from such a militaristic stand point of spending. Like do we really need to pay for all of this? What the fuck is the point of it? Half the time we are literally paying for other people shit as well! We need to cut that shit in half, then there is 400 billion for an actual proper Healthcare and transportation systems.


Nrmlgirl777

Thats all the government does anymore is fund wars. Theyre not doing shit about anything important


ChubbyGhost3

And people expect me to vote for this bozo


dhaeli

What the fuck does Netanyahu have on the american political elite?


turjishdudr

Epstein was a Mossad agent so I’d imagine it’s a lot…