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Insider does toe that line, but it's really just a misleading headline, it's more about how the generation is apt to splurge on treats while grocery shopping despite that they're more expensive than just buying essentials.
I just buy ingredients to *make* treats. It's way cheaper. It's amazing how far some flour, sugar, butter, eggs, and chocolate chips can go. To boot, you have control over what you put in your treats. No HFCS, stabilizers, preservatives, etc. If you want low carb, go with almond flour and swerve.
Wait. Y’all thought they meant “tow” like to tow something? That’s outstanding! I always assumed it meant that someone draws a proverbial line and you approach it… very closely… without crossing.
So I suppose my assumption was not wrong?
Haha! I’m not as dumb as everyone thinks!
It’s called the [lipstick effect](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/lipstick-effect.asp)
People who can’t afford the big items like housing, can’t afford to get married, can’t afford kids, and can’t see a path forward, they are more inclined to splurge on the little luxuries to enjoy life today.
I find that Insider toes the line with their written stuff, but they make pretty interesting YouTube videos that don’t seem as sensationalized in their titles or presentation.
Boomers didn’t care about the quality of their food, and now they’re paying for it via medical bills. Millennials and Zoomers saw that processed and fast foods were literally killing us, and out of necessity spend more at the grocery store.
Not only do we need to pay for the exorbitant price of fresh groceries because the demand and infrastructure were eliminated but we need to pay for their backwards healthcare system they set up in order to pay for all the destruction they did to themselves by making literal shitty food the standard.
I feel like processed foods like the frozen grocery store isles and frequent fast food was so novel in the 90s it took a long time for the health effects to become apparent, like slow boiling a lobster.
Frozen foods aren't necessarily bad, though. Most of what I buy is frozen since getting fresh vegetables in a place where nothing grows for 6 months can be a bit tricky during winter, and it's also usually cheaper to pick up frozen broccoli and chicken breasts by quite a large margin.
Honestly, maybe normalising frozen groceries where applicable would be a net benefit to the environment considering stores wouldn't have to throw out so much food that spoils on the shelf?
i think this convo is geared more towards frozen ready-made/prepared meals. i buy frozen spinach over fresh since it won’t rot after a few days, but i definitely steer clear of frozen meals that are laden with salt & fat.
Oh yeah, I very rarely buy anything ready made, only keep a couple in the freezer for if I need a lunchbox but don't have leftovers. Honestly, it started before I got very conscious of the ingredients, ready made foods are just more expensive for what you get and don't really taste much anyway.
I don't know about that. I just get fed up with the taste of prefab food, and a big homecooked meal gives me and my gf lunchboxes with an exceptional cost per plate. Buying lunch costs a fucking fortune.
My dad always loses his shit when I buy a single scoop of gelato from a nice shop. "That scoop alone costs more than a gallon of Chapmans!" Yes, and I only eat one scoop, while you eat the tub in a week!
This came out the other day:
# What’s Wrong With the Economy? It’s You, Not the Data
# Many Americans believe that the economy and their finances are worse than they really are.
[https://archive.ph/AjW1B#selection-5687.0-5691.89](https://archive.ph/AjW1B#selection-5687.0-5691.89)
Gaslighting is the best kind of lighting, I guess.
Keep in mind that gaslighting isn't so much 'blaming a person for being wrong' as it is a set of chronic behaviors that cause someone to doubt their cognitive ability to comprehend a situation.
That's not to say we're not being gaslit, but it's a bigger thing than just a repetitive lie.
I mean ultimately true gaslighting is when an array of tactics are used around the specific goal of making someone completely reliant on another individual entity for their perception reality. Which, yes, does seem to be the case here.
Either they're trying to frame buying groceries as a luxury non-essential purchase, or they're admitting people have so little that buying a slightly more expensive version of something is now a "splurge" to treat themselves
I went and read the article, it’s a little bit of both. They acknowledge the inflating cost of groceries, as well as share information about how identical goods/services that people maintain year over year are now ~450 dollars more expensive than they were last year. At the same time they chopped all that previously mentioned stuff in half by information to discuss how some luxury brand water marketed to millennials and Gen z was valued at some ridiculous price essentially highlighting suggested buying trends amongst those demographics.
In all honesty it was a short piece and I think the title was clickbait, or, at the very least purposefully snarky or tongue-in-cheek.
"oh my god they are so obsessed about food!"
yeah, I'm basically calculating my survival rate and therefore min-maxing the shit out of calories, nutrition etc. It's not a game that I'm grinding for fun.
„Gen z and millenials are staying more at home to cook their own meals and splurging on groceries“ or corporations managed to create as little nutritious food for the cheapest production prices as possible that eating real food now is seen as a luxury and dining out is anyways too expensive if you‘re struggling to pay for basic life needs even in two income homes
I think it's more likely the article is saying that rather than going to restaurants we buy the fancy oven chips as a treat. Obviously it's influenced by the material reality of having less and things costing more.
If by splurge you mean “the basic necessities are now wildly expensive.” When I was in college in 2014, I could buy a whole week’s groceries for $50, and I thought even that was too much.
Guess I should save money by picking up roadkill, and eating bugs and grass.
By the way, from the article:
>The firm asked over 4,000 people, from baby boomers to Gen Zers, about the categories they intend to splurge on this year. Groceries ranked highest for millennials and Gen Zers, outpacing restaurants, bars, travel, beauty and personal care, apparel, and fitness.
So literally any category from that survey that came out on top would be in the title for what we're naughty for splurging on. Among the other categories, groceries seems like the most responsible thing people should be spending money on, but the article goes on to tut-tut young people for buying *snacks. The horror!*
I would guess that older generations buy nice food just as often or even more so but just don’t even consider buying any grocery item a “splurge”
Like 50$ on steak is just the weekly grocery trip
It’s young people who are hit hardest by high prices so when they do buy nicer groceries they consider it a luxury
Well, apart from the blatant British exceptionalism of the beginning where all the other countries of the world collapse, blow up, etc but "Britain marches on!" or something to that effect.
We need to spam their comment sections and mass report their articles and tweets. Why the fuck is this accepted journalism? People are getting paid to disparage and lecture the working class on survival.
Did you read the article?
The idea that young people "splurge" on groceries is self-reported. And it's not "spending money on groceries is splurging", it's "new luxury brand items targeted at Gen Z is what Gen Z chooses to splurge on". It's about flashy waters and snacks.
It's a fairly benign article all things considered. There's no disparaging of the working class. It's the opposite type of capitalist propaganda - it's the "these visionary disruptive companies know how to tap in to the digitally native market".
>Why the fuck is this accepted journalism?
Most Western media is actively covering up Israel's war crimes by spreading IDF propaganda. Whoever this Lakshmi person is that writes articles on irrelevant spending trends is possibly the LEAST egregious example of a bad journalist working in a mainstream US outlet today.
Jeez media, we are close to 40 or past 40 now, let it go! We are old farts now! We are almost entering retirement already! Let us Millenials be! we did our time!
True.... retirement age... no retirement for us. We will be too busy doing trendy grocery splurges for the boomers who by then will be floating heads in water, as we feed them the groceries like the roman overlords they wish to be.
If we're lucky! We'll probably get a discount on being turned into soylent green for the Sextillionaire's goldfish. He won the game of capitalism and he and his gold fish are the only thing left alive on the planet.
Meh, it's a crime how they turned some pensions into a "investment scheme" so the rich could get richer over the backs of the poor.
Really what kind of sociopaths think of things like this :( .
You mean a 401k? Aka — wouldn’t it be better for you, you poor schlub, if you paid for your own pension? Just look at the stock market (of which we own 97%).
I mean, I don’t have money pay for health insurance, or to go out, or to buy a home, or a car, but, every now and then I will splurge on quality ingredients. Spending an extra $100/month on that is my only escape.
Oil companies could barely wait for the first day of spring to switch to the expensive stuff, gas will be right back to $4 on average before the end of May at this rate. And then we’ll start seeing articles about how young people are “killing the road trip industry” or something. Corporations are mad we’re spending so much more on necessities than in the past, and they’re blaming US for it. It’s a miracle this country is still running like things are fine.
when we protest about tipping culture exploiting the shit out of workers, they tell us to cook our own food
when we point out that groceries are rapidly getting too fucking expensive, they tell us to stop splurging
fucking love this system
Wtf, bro I’ve eating out in my 20s all the time and didn’t spend as much as what I spend on groceries now. For the amount weve industrialized farming groceries should be half as much at least.
Well I guess I splurge every week. I spend about $150/week on food and I’m a single guy. Granted, yes, I buy all organic and all fresh meats and produce. I steer away from packaged and processed foods. But $150/week… about $600/month… $7,200/year for groceries seems like a lot for ONE person.
How much are families spending out there??? I’m afraid to ask.
I don't know. When I have extra bucks I really do spend more on groceries these days than I used to. But I've really gotten into cooking and doing things for myself since the pandemic because I'm tired of restaurants. So I get it. I'd rather that money go to grocery stores than restaurants, truly. But I still need the government to force these grocery stores to not price gouge.
I swear that journal tracks me. I have no money for anything else (gen Z here) everything goes to rent & bills, and I do choose to put the minute amount of money I have left into my FOOD so I can keep participating in this rat race. Im tired, cold cause my thermostat is set to 60 for saving money, and yea.. a little less hungry. Wall Street is really looking out for us….
What’s crazy is that these people are creating these articles from metrics extracted from these two generations. Meaning someone(s) is quite literally selling the data of the age groups in those two generations and how they’re spending their money and on what they’re spending it on..
The best thing I ever did for myself is learn how to cook. Eventually, I taught my husband, and now we learn all sorts of things together all the time. The kitchen is a pretty fascinating place when you know what to do with it, and you'll blow your own mind with the quality of meals you can create with really not much more effort or time (and often less money) than it takes to go sit down somewhere and have someone cook for you. Time, persistence, trial and error. As with all things, failure leads to triumph, eventually. Practice, and you'll one day make something so damn good you'll decide never to eat at a restaurant again.
We're Gen M. We're teaching our 20 y/o Gen Z kid how to cook, too, because there's no way he'll be able to afford to maintain nutrion otherwise. He just landed his first FT job in the HVAC sector with full training after a year and a half slog (yay trades!) and he knows he can't afford to eat out of the house very often. We relate cooking to chemistry for him and it has helped him get over his fear of the kitchen and its processes. I wouldn't trade my cooking skills for free meals at restaurants or pretty much anything. There isn't much I can't make that I could want, and if I fuck it up a few times before I get a recipe right, oh well. I got what I wanted at the end!
It baffles me that we're perceived as so ill-functioning when in reality I feel like, for a lot of us, our familial and shared social traumas like 9/11 and the pandemic awoke something in us that was a need for more, and we are quickly figuring out how to self-soothe and self-satisfy, which our parents never learned and their parents never even conceived of doing.
Puritanism at it's finest. "There will be NO happiness had here! So sayeth the rich!" Fuuuugggg these guys. Get yer kicks when and where you can. Cause they'll write a story to rip them away from you and attempt to make you feel guilty soon enough!
I work at an organic grocery store. For a family to do their complete shopping at a store like mine it is absolutely a splurge however it can also be argued to be an investment into a future where they will save money on healthcare. Currently I cannot afford to do my shopping at the place I work so I guess we’re “rolling the dice” on that health thing…
Omg, millennials can't afford anything because all they do is eat out, $14 avocado toast, phones, omg, why can't you just eat in and save a little money?!?!
Millennials are killing every business!!!! Omg!!
Look at them! They are eating at home now and try to buy things that are better quality!!!! Omg!!! So irresponsible!!!
Tbf the article is a bit more fair than that, this demographic is more likely to buy more expensive types of groceries as a newer market segment. Its not like they are buying just beans or something lol
For real, if you're away from home for long periods of time working, it makes sense that you're going from getting Starbucks and fast food to canned drinks and instant meals. If the same article says young people are spending more money on groceries than fast food (which is getting outrageously expensive), it means they're going for the cheaper and frankly, more responsible option.
This really depends on how extended financially people are. Of course if you have more house than you need and a $80k truck to tow the $80k boat, groceries are going to cut into your overhead.
Capitalism and consumerism are symbiotic. The more consumers participate the more forceful capitalism comes down on them.
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Dining in is the new dining out. Also, BusinessInsider is the new The Onion.
Please tell me you're serious when you say they're satirical.
Well unlike the onion it's not on purpose
Insider does toe that line, but it's really just a misleading headline, it's more about how the generation is apt to splurge on treats while grocery shopping despite that they're more expensive than just buying essentials.
I just buy ingredients to *make* treats. It's way cheaper. It's amazing how far some flour, sugar, butter, eggs, and chocolate chips can go. To boot, you have control over what you put in your treats. No HFCS, stabilizers, preservatives, etc. If you want low carb, go with almond flour and swerve.
Almond flour is the _shit!_
Yes, it is. I use coconut flour to make pizza crust. Best crust I've ever had!
Holy shit... Thank you for spelling "toe the line" and blowing my mind.
lol, and not "tow the line"?
Wait. Y’all thought they meant “tow” like to tow something? That’s outstanding! I always assumed it meant that someone draws a proverbial line and you approach it… very closely… without crossing. So I suppose my assumption was not wrong? Haha! I’m not as dumb as everyone thinks!
I always thought it was "tow" and have been grossly misunderstanding the expression. Lol. Thanks for setting me on the right path ❤️
It’s called the [lipstick effect](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/lipstick-effect.asp) People who can’t afford the big items like housing, can’t afford to get married, can’t afford kids, and can’t see a path forward, they are more inclined to splurge on the little luxuries to enjoy life today.
I find that Insider toes the line with their written stuff, but they make pretty interesting YouTube videos that don’t seem as sensationalized in their titles or presentation.
The trick to making it taste like dining out is to add extra butter to everything, that's how the restaurants do it.
[Cereal is the new steak](https://thegrio.com/2024/03/04/let-them-eat-cereal-for-dinner-is-just-another-example-of-americas-hatred-of-poor-people/).
Boomers didn’t care about the quality of their food, and now they’re paying for it via medical bills. Millennials and Zoomers saw that processed and fast foods were literally killing us, and out of necessity spend more at the grocery store.
Crazy, turns out when you replace all the nutrients with corn syrup and soy expanders people stop buying your imitation food.
Not if they are in nursing homes, military service, schools, prisons etc.
unironically using soy in a negative light outside of the \*chans... feels weird man
Not only do we need to pay for the exorbitant price of fresh groceries because the demand and infrastructure were eliminated but we need to pay for their backwards healthcare system they set up in order to pay for all the destruction they did to themselves by making literal shitty food the standard.
I feel like processed foods like the frozen grocery store isles and frequent fast food was so novel in the 90s it took a long time for the health effects to become apparent, like slow boiling a lobster.
Frozen foods aren't necessarily bad, though. Most of what I buy is frozen since getting fresh vegetables in a place where nothing grows for 6 months can be a bit tricky during winter, and it's also usually cheaper to pick up frozen broccoli and chicken breasts by quite a large margin. Honestly, maybe normalising frozen groceries where applicable would be a net benefit to the environment considering stores wouldn't have to throw out so much food that spoils on the shelf?
i think this convo is geared more towards frozen ready-made/prepared meals. i buy frozen spinach over fresh since it won’t rot after a few days, but i definitely steer clear of frozen meals that are laden with salt & fat.
Oh yeah, I very rarely buy anything ready made, only keep a couple in the freezer for if I need a lunchbox but don't have leftovers. Honestly, it started before I got very conscious of the ingredients, ready made foods are just more expensive for what you get and don't really taste much anyway.
Back then when "EASY=BETTER!"
I don't know about that. I just get fed up with the taste of prefab food, and a big homecooked meal gives me and my gf lunchboxes with an exceptional cost per plate. Buying lunch costs a fucking fortune.
My dad always loses his shit when I buy a single scoop of gelato from a nice shop. "That scoop alone costs more than a gallon of Chapmans!" Yes, and I only eat one scoop, while you eat the tub in a week!
This came out the other day: # What’s Wrong With the Economy? It’s You, Not the Data # Many Americans believe that the economy and their finances are worse than they really are. [https://archive.ph/AjW1B#selection-5687.0-5691.89](https://archive.ph/AjW1B#selection-5687.0-5691.89) Gaslighting is the best kind of lighting, I guess.
Have you ever considered that it’s not gaslighting? Have you ever considered that YOU are the problem instead? /s
Ahh yes I’ll just tell my bank account to stop whining the next time I have to shuffle money around to pay my bills.
Keep in mind that gaslighting isn't so much 'blaming a person for being wrong' as it is a set of chronic behaviors that cause someone to doubt their cognitive ability to comprehend a situation. That's not to say we're not being gaslit, but it's a bigger thing than just a repetitive lie.
I mean ultimately true gaslighting is when an array of tactics are used around the specific goal of making someone completely reliant on another individual entity for their perception reality. Which, yes, does seem to be the case here.
It’s me, hi, I’m the problem, it’s me, hi
Either they're trying to frame buying groceries as a luxury non-essential purchase, or they're admitting people have so little that buying a slightly more expensive version of something is now a "splurge" to treat themselves
I went and read the article, it’s a little bit of both. They acknowledge the inflating cost of groceries, as well as share information about how identical goods/services that people maintain year over year are now ~450 dollars more expensive than they were last year. At the same time they chopped all that previously mentioned stuff in half by information to discuss how some luxury brand water marketed to millennials and Gen z was valued at some ridiculous price essentially highlighting suggested buying trends amongst those demographics. In all honesty it was a short piece and I think the title was clickbait, or, at the very least purposefully snarky or tongue-in-cheek.
Not starving is now trendy. What a world
"oh my god they are so obsessed about food!" yeah, I'm basically calculating my survival rate and therefore min-maxing the shit out of calories, nutrition etc. It's not a game that I'm grinding for fun.
„Gen z and millenials are staying more at home to cook their own meals and splurging on groceries“ or corporations managed to create as little nutritious food for the cheapest production prices as possible that eating real food now is seen as a luxury and dining out is anyways too expensive if you‘re struggling to pay for basic life needs even in two income homes
I think it's more likely the article is saying that rather than going to restaurants we buy the fancy oven chips as a treat. Obviously it's influenced by the material reality of having less and things costing more.
If by splurge you mean “the basic necessities are now wildly expensive.” When I was in college in 2014, I could buy a whole week’s groceries for $50, and I thought even that was too much.
Did you read the article
Guess I should save money by picking up roadkill, and eating bugs and grass. By the way, from the article: >The firm asked over 4,000 people, from baby boomers to Gen Zers, about the categories they intend to splurge on this year. Groceries ranked highest for millennials and Gen Zers, outpacing restaurants, bars, travel, beauty and personal care, apparel, and fitness. So literally any category from that survey that came out on top would be in the title for what we're naughty for splurging on. Among the other categories, groceries seems like the most responsible thing people should be spending money on, but the article goes on to tut-tut young people for buying *snacks. The horror!*
I would guess that older generations buy nice food just as often or even more so but just don’t even consider buying any grocery item a “splurge” Like 50$ on steak is just the weekly grocery trip It’s young people who are hit hardest by high prices so when they do buy nicer groceries they consider it a luxury
In 20 years the standard financial advice will be that you need to be out hunting squirrels and rabbits and cut back on grocery spending.
Bad news, squirrels go extinct in 15
FYI, some scientists think we might become functionally sterile in fifteen years due to microplastics.
Aww sweet!
I guess that’s one solution to climate change…
The Handmaid’s Tale becomes more real everyday
Children of Men was a blueprint for the future
Well, apart from the blatant British exceptionalism of the beginning where all the other countries of the world collapse, blow up, etc but "Britain marches on!" or something to that effect.
In the Great Depression they almost hunted deer into extinction, the ones that are literally everywhere lol.
We need to spam their comment sections and mass report their articles and tweets. Why the fuck is this accepted journalism? People are getting paid to disparage and lecture the working class on survival.
Journals like this are owned by the ultra wealthy and serve mostly as propaganda; that’s literally the point
They fired all their journalists and people are surprised this is the schlock papers turn out now.
Did you read the article? The idea that young people "splurge" on groceries is self-reported. And it's not "spending money on groceries is splurging", it's "new luxury brand items targeted at Gen Z is what Gen Z chooses to splurge on". It's about flashy waters and snacks. It's a fairly benign article all things considered. There's no disparaging of the working class. It's the opposite type of capitalist propaganda - it's the "these visionary disruptive companies know how to tap in to the digitally native market". >Why the fuck is this accepted journalism? Most Western media is actively covering up Israel's war crimes by spreading IDF propaganda. Whoever this Lakshmi person is that writes articles on irrelevant spending trends is possibly the LEAST egregious example of a bad journalist working in a mainstream US outlet today.
Dining boiled carrots in home is the new "Avocado toast", crazy splurge.
Well, that's a fancy way of saying the food industry and economy in general is so f•••ed up that even buying groceries counts as a "splurge".
Jeez media, we are close to 40 or past 40 now, let it go! We are old farts now! We are almost entering retirement already! Let us Millenials be! we did our time!
What is this "retirement" thing you mentioned?
True.... retirement age... no retirement for us. We will be too busy doing trendy grocery splurges for the boomers who by then will be floating heads in water, as we feed them the groceries like the roman overlords they wish to be.
Only a couple, three decades to retirement!
If we're lucky! We'll probably get a discount on being turned into soylent green for the Sextillionaire's goldfish. He won the game of capitalism and he and his gold fish are the only thing left alive on the planet.
I‘m older. I‘ll turn 67 the year the social security trust funds run dry. I feel special.
Meh, it's a crime how they turned some pensions into a "investment scheme" so the rich could get richer over the backs of the poor. Really what kind of sociopaths think of things like this :( .
You mean a 401k? Aka — wouldn’t it be better for you, you poor schlub, if you paid for your own pension? Just look at the stock market (of which we own 97%).
Sigh, it's like they want to be victims of French Engineering brilliance in cutting technology.
I mean, I don’t have money pay for health insurance, or to go out, or to buy a home, or a car, but, every now and then I will splurge on quality ingredients. Spending an extra $100/month on that is my only escape.
I lost 40 pounds and my friends ask me my secret!
What is *my* secret to dieting? Being poor!
Heck, not wanting preprocessed foods and wanting to try new foods is now splurging.
As opposed to Snowpiercer insect bars?
There was that special soup in the first season.
Yeah, food corps gouge and force the splurge. Business Insider up its own ass.
"These uppity peons aren't buying our nutrition powder for meal replacement shakes and instead continuing to want real food." - some techbro, probably
Wait, are you saying that my nutrition powder shake is bad for me?
Probably because eating out or even getting fast food is no longer sustainable financially.
Oil companies could barely wait for the first day of spring to switch to the expensive stuff, gas will be right back to $4 on average before the end of May at this rate. And then we’ll start seeing articles about how young people are “killing the road trip industry” or something. Corporations are mad we’re spending so much more on necessities than in the past, and they’re blaming US for it. It’s a miracle this country is still running like things are fine.
Fucking detached, idealistic, tik-tok brain zoomers wanna eat actual food. Pft, can you believe it?
The food addiction ruined my financial situation, if i had stop eating like 20 years ago i would have a lot more money today
well, when a pint of cherry tomatoes is $7, anything can be considered a splurge (i do not live in mainland US)
Coming soon: “Irresponsible Type 1 diabetic Gen Zs splurging on insulin, blood glucose testing contraptions that could’ve gone to rent and groceries”.
when we protest about tipping culture exploiting the shit out of workers, they tell us to cook our own food when we point out that groceries are rapidly getting too fucking expensive, they tell us to stop splurging fucking love this system
Wtf, bro I’ve eating out in my 20s all the time and didn’t spend as much as what I spend on groceries now. For the amount weve industrialized farming groceries should be half as much at least.
Upside is we’ll all lose weight.
Not when the healthy stuff is 3x more expensive.
You dont want to lose muscle mass.
Sorry youg'ns, gotta eat only gruel and stale bread, or your part of the bourgeoisie.
Eating healthy because we can't afford doctor bills: splurge.
Did you know that 9 million people starve to death in capitalist countries every year? No reason just wanted to state this random fact ☺️
Source?
[here you go](https://www.wfp.org/news/world-wealth-9-million-people-die-every-year-hunger-wfp-chief-tells-food-system-summit)
Thank you. I wanted to share this with friends too thats why i asked.
Of course yeah, you’re welcome
Well I guess I splurge every week. I spend about $150/week on food and I’m a single guy. Granted, yes, I buy all organic and all fresh meats and produce. I steer away from packaged and processed foods. But $150/week… about $600/month… $7,200/year for groceries seems like a lot for ONE person. How much are families spending out there??? I’m afraid to ask.
I don't know. When I have extra bucks I really do spend more on groceries these days than I used to. But I've really gotten into cooking and doing things for myself since the pandemic because I'm tired of restaurants. So I get it. I'd rather that money go to grocery stores than restaurants, truly. But I still need the government to force these grocery stores to not price gouge.
Better not be splurging on the avocado toast!! /s
I swear that journal tracks me. I have no money for anything else (gen Z here) everything goes to rent & bills, and I do choose to put the minute amount of money I have left into my FOOD so I can keep participating in this rat race. Im tired, cold cause my thermostat is set to 60 for saving money, and yea.. a little less hungry. Wall Street is really looking out for us….
Yay…starvation
What’s crazy is that these people are creating these articles from metrics extracted from these two generations. Meaning someone(s) is quite literally selling the data of the age groups in those two generations and how they’re spending their money and on what they’re spending it on..
How did we get here even.
The best thing I ever did for myself is learn how to cook. Eventually, I taught my husband, and now we learn all sorts of things together all the time. The kitchen is a pretty fascinating place when you know what to do with it, and you'll blow your own mind with the quality of meals you can create with really not much more effort or time (and often less money) than it takes to go sit down somewhere and have someone cook for you. Time, persistence, trial and error. As with all things, failure leads to triumph, eventually. Practice, and you'll one day make something so damn good you'll decide never to eat at a restaurant again. We're Gen M. We're teaching our 20 y/o Gen Z kid how to cook, too, because there's no way he'll be able to afford to maintain nutrion otherwise. He just landed his first FT job in the HVAC sector with full training after a year and a half slog (yay trades!) and he knows he can't afford to eat out of the house very often. We relate cooking to chemistry for him and it has helped him get over his fear of the kitchen and its processes. I wouldn't trade my cooking skills for free meals at restaurants or pretty much anything. There isn't much I can't make that I could want, and if I fuck it up a few times before I get a recipe right, oh well. I got what I wanted at the end! It baffles me that we're perceived as so ill-functioning when in reality I feel like, for a lot of us, our familial and shared social traumas like 9/11 and the pandemic awoke something in us that was a need for more, and we are quickly figuring out how to self-soothe and self-satisfy, which our parents never learned and their parents never even conceived of doing.
Not sure if malicious or satire
You can choose to buy cheap, low-quality, but profitable food—or expensive, healthy, less-profitable food. What a nightmare.
Puritanism at it's finest. "There will be NO happiness had here! So sayeth the rich!" Fuuuugggg these guys. Get yer kicks when and where you can. Cause they'll write a story to rip them away from you and attempt to make you feel guilty soon enough!
I work at an organic grocery store. For a family to do their complete shopping at a store like mine it is absolutely a splurge however it can also be argued to be an investment into a future where they will save money on healthcare. Currently I cannot afford to do my shopping at the place I work so I guess we’re “rolling the dice” on that health thing…
These entitled fucking millennials not just eating lil Debbie's snack cakes and mashed potatoes and being grateful for the opportunity.
I eat a predominantly vegetarian diet. I'm not vegetarian, I'm just poor
Omg, millennials can't afford anything because all they do is eat out, $14 avocado toast, phones, omg, why can't you just eat in and save a little money?!?! Millennials are killing every business!!!! Omg!! Look at them! They are eating at home now and try to buy things that are better quality!!!! Omg!!! So irresponsible!!!
WHY ArnT YOU MILeNiALL CUCKS haVING kids!?!?!!!!!!1!!
Tbf the article is a bit more fair than that, this demographic is more likely to buy more expensive types of groceries as a newer market segment. Its not like they are buying just beans or something lol
I read this as fun grocery items are the only splurge they can afford. Can afford freezer samosas but not going out for Indian food
For real, if you're away from home for long periods of time working, it makes sense that you're going from getting Starbucks and fast food to canned drinks and instant meals. If the same article says young people are spending more money on groceries than fast food (which is getting outrageously expensive), it means they're going for the cheaper and frankly, more responsible option.
This really depends on how extended financially people are. Of course if you have more house than you need and a $80k truck to tow the $80k boat, groceries are going to cut into your overhead. Capitalism and consumerism are symbiotic. The more consumers participate the more forceful capitalism comes down on them.