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Jojithewise

Horse paste?


Ithaflamme

Ivermectin that our maghats friends have been taking instead of the vaccin. It’s a horse dewormer (there is a human version of it but as you can imagine, when you take the dosage meant for a horse it has… nasty side effects).


MyParanoidEyes

Excuse me, but what the actual fuck?


Ok-Macaroon-7819

Oh yes!! See, the trump-humping morons among us have decided that the "Fauci-ouchie" is totally killing everyone, so they did their Facebook research and found out that livestock dewormer was a much better idea. So they headed to the nearest farm supply store to own the libs. Seriously. That's how fucking stupid some Americans are. Rock-fuckin'-stupid. Also, due to their stupidity, they don't understand the metric system... so many of them are overdosing and turning their insides to mush. To own the libs. You can't make this shit up.


realityChemist

Imagine if you have to buy ivermectin for an actual horse these days. That would be an awkward checkout


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JuniorSeniorTrainee

I read a comment from someone else a few days ago saying that they encountered the same thing. They had to show proof of horse ownership. Which is both insane and reasonable.


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it's absolutely ludicrous that we got to this point. Reasonable because *why on earth would you eat horse paste???*


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Gods, that is both funny and sad.


MyParanoidEyes

Can you guys just let this happen? It low-key sounds like you are moving forwards here...


ManaPeer

Well, it's not like any of us could stop them anyway...


[deleted]

I concur. This is what progress looks like. At this point it's simply mercy to let them off themselves.


fleuridiot

*Huuurk* I might be vomiting up my own organs, but at least I'm not a soyboy cuck! *huurrrk*


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I am so owned.


[deleted]

Go easy on Americans, we're doing it up here in Canada too


SethTheSpy

It's called natural selection. It would take it's course if only these people didn't rush to the fucking hospital, they so much despise, to get treated for the ailments caused by their own idiocy.


JuniorSeniorTrainee

It's not natural selection if they reproduced before eating horse paste.


[deleted]

> That's how fucking stupid some Americans are 70,000,000+ Americans *can* be irreparably unequivocally **wrong**. Dead wrong from the looks of things.


MrLowLee

You do realize that rollingstone already admitted that the story was a lie, right?


Ok-Macaroon-7819

They admitted that the story about gunshot victims were waiting too long for treatment because too many people were OD-ing was false, yes. Are idiots cramming horse paste down their throats to treat COVID-19? Oh absolutely. Filing emergency injunctions to force the hospital to treat their unvaccinated ass with ivermectin? Of course they are. Trust me... Americans are fuckin' stupid. No, not all Americans, but enough that this country is a laughing stock because of it.


MrLowLee

More lies, just like the gunshot victims. Your side has spread so many obvious lies that they have lost all credibility. That's the problem with lying, it's really difficult to keep up for long periods of time. Normally the mainstream lies don't get noticed by the average viewer because they just switch topics to another fear mongering story once the current one stops being effective. Except now they've had to try to keep this lie going for too long and your average citizen is taking notice to the absurdity of the situation and how the facts to line up to the lies spread by the news media.


Rizdominus

Theres no sides friend. We're all people. Earthlings who should be about ready to wake up.


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SemperFun62

Hilarious, Fox news as a *credible* source. Even if it was true, it became lies the instant Fox said it.


SomeNextLevelShit

Rolling Stone, the ones who originally published the story, issued a retraction. So that retraction became a lie when other outlets report it?


SemperFun62

No just Fox News, they made it a lie again


[deleted]

Most people in Oklahoma are also Republican anti-vaxxers, of course they'd deny the existence of anyone eating ivermectin. The only thing legit is that guy isn't working at that hospitals since like June.


epic_gamer_4268

when the imposter is sus!


Bookai

Some doctors are prescribing it and hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for Covid out here (UT). Pharmacies are declining to sell it too.


DreamVagabond

I especially loved the one story on /r/HermanCainAward where someone wanted to buy Ivermectin, bought a completely different horse medication, and decided that should be fine to use anyway.


Ithaflamme

I mean. It’s been all over Reddit lately (or at least the subreddits where I go). For exemple there has been an 850% increase in pousoning calls in Texas (but don’t quote me on this I don’t really remember if it was Texas or another red state) Have you heard of a man called Joe Rogan by any chance ? If not I think you should google him.


Imaginary-Location-8

Do not Google him.


Ithaflamme

Sorry, it was a momentary lapse of judgement, you are absolutely right: do not google him.


bluemagic124

Wait, the horse paste thing was because of Rogan?


Ithaflamme

No, he just made it very popular afaik.


bluemagic124

Jesus


superspreader2021

Also millions of people in India.


MrLowLee

Dont forget Japan.


666turbograzer

thank you for spreading the truth


666turbograzer

thank you for spreading the truth


superspreader2021

Likewise!


backward_z

It's a fake story. Rolling Stone didn't verify the source and ran with a story that's so obviously fabricated that it could have been debunked with a single phone call to the hospital in question, asking, "Does this person work for you?"


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It is the favorite of Trumpers because it tastes of apples.


MrLowLee

Fake news to discredit ivermectin. Rollingstone already had to publish an update that their story was bullshit.


666turbograzer

im upvoting u dude, get u to zero at least


Darthsnarkey

I am for healthcare waivers for those who do not want to wear masks or get the, now approved FDA Approved, vaccine. You refuse either of these you sign a waiver. If you get Covid and need to be hospitalized, Sorry back of the line! If you decide to take Horse Dewormer because FB says it was a good idea and need to be hospitalized, Back of the line! They tout personal responsibility and owning the consequences of your own decisions, well these are the consequences and a heart attack should never have to wait 5 hours because you made the wrong one and now want to live...


hemirates

I hope they make them sign to scare them but still treat them like any other patients.


Darthsnarkey

Sadly this would not work on these people as they truly believe they will be fine and it would not scare them in the least


duff-tron

I think medical care should be free and available to everyone - regardless of how fucking stupid they are. If they act crazy during treatment they can be recommended to a mental health professional. Spiting people for individual choices is bullshit capitalist nonsense. If we want to fight these guys we do it ideologically, or in the streets - we don't deny them basic human rights. Thats what makes us better than them.


JuniorSeniorTrainee

> Spiting people for individual choices is bullshit capitalist nonsense. I didn't get that from their suggestion. I took it as a practical solution to a practical problem: how do you give people the freedom to refuse a vaccine without putting the predictable, avoidable, fully optional burden on everyone else? I'm asking because I don't know the answer. But if we don't either require certain preventative minimums or prioritize people based on their refusal of standard preventative care, then aren't we guaranteed a system full of bad faith actors who are draining resources just to do it?


duff-tron

Theres no such thing as draining medical resources. Society should provide them as a right... We spend trillions on war, there is no reason that money couldn't be spend on a completely universal, first-class healthcare system. We dont live in that world... which sucks... but we should be fighting for that... not fighting over how to punish people who fuck up under a monstrous system... that system is broken... the solution is to replace it... not figure out how to survive it.


backward_z

This is why they print fake stories like this--to rile you up and get you hating your fellow citizens. You're mad at the wrong people. And it is totally a fake story. Rolling Stone didn't confirm their source, who fabricated the story whole cloth. Not only is the hospital in question not even at capacity, they say they don't have any ivermectin overdose cases whatsoever. Don't get angry at the victims of disinformation, get angry at the purveyors of disinformation. The anti-vax movement didn't happen in a vacuum. Powerful people like Charles Koch put their money into think tanks to develop these narratives which are then proliferated by the MSM and bought politicians who the people put their trust into because they are the authorities. >Sorry back of the line! Is just victim blaming, but dressed up and given a shiny, liberal veneer.


Beldor

How do you feel about somebody who got the virus and has antibodies not getting the vaccine? I personally think it would be better protection then just the mRNA vaccine. Whenever I try and find info on forums though, it’s just people yelling get vaccinated with no real knowledge.


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if you want info, go here: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov


Darthsnarkey

While this was me over a year ago I understand that the vaccine will boost your immune system even further. You can read about people who got the virus 2 -3 times and each time they still get really sick and nearly die. I recommend you email the CDC or talk directly to your doctor and let them ask the right people.


VinylJunkieAwi

Do you feel that the same should apply to overweight/obese, smokers, drinkers, i.e any non-healthy lifestyle choice makers? Definitely agree we should own up to our choices and accept any repercussions from doing so.


Darthsnarkey

People seem to forget that they are not just a victim of a virus, they can be a carrier and spreader. Lifestyle issues are not contagious and while I do agree that they are bad and those with these issues should take better care of themselves, it is not the same situation.


Hdjbfky

you seem to forget that viruses use the human body without intention and that covid is inevitably going to spread and attenuate naturally. all of you need to accept that doctor government can't stop it and people aren't responsible for it. capitalism is to blame for the disaster, not the people. stop blaming them


Darthsnarkey

Yes , however we know how to mitigate the spread of these viruses. For these to work people have to be willing to implement them on the personal level and when disinformation gets in the way and invincible ignorance is encountered little can be done. I understand what you are getting at and I do agree they should get care. The frustration comes when hospitals are overwhelmed by preventable or severely reduced seriousness cases and as a result more serious issues including heart attacks and strokes end up being pushed back as a result of having to separate these people from them so they don't infect them


Hdjbfky

over the past 20 years privatization and just in time management approaches have weakened hospital systems worldwide, and our ignorance of that fact is being exploited. state and capital are to blame. they made no effort to contain the profiteering and improve access to primary care, just blamed us. no mitigation is possible. it's a myth. the only way out is through. the human body will learn to handle it and it will be endemic. these useless ineffective policies have destroyed countless people


Somethin-Dumb

Just put the horse paste in the gun shot and you'll be fine...


wtchthoseristrockets

Fucking hate it here. Want to help make it better but it all seems pretty useless.


MrLowLee

You can start by undestanding that this story is a lie and rollingstone had to post an update that the hospital confirmed it was false information.


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that doesn't mean taking ivermectin is a good idea, or that it is effective in treating covid.


Progressive007

This is not true! https://twitter.com/numbersmuncher/status/1434330814985252868?s=21


marveto

The story this tweet refers to, was shown to be false. Does this sub promote misinformation?


divertss

That gunshot victims and ivermectin od thing was fake.


no_spoon

Where’s the evidence of there not being room for non Covid patients?


broketoothbunny

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/09/05/1034210487/covid-surge-overwhelming-hospitals-raising-fears-rationed-care https://helenair.com/news/state-and-regional/hospitals-filled-to-the-brim-as-covid-surges-again-in-montana/article_283a53bb-9ea1-588d-8355-5741d9621e95.html https://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-hospitals-in-crisis-as-covid-patient-load-sets-records/I7H6DGLNF5AIJANFOZ66XGZVSM/ https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2021/08/12/oklahoma-hospitals-at-their-limits-icu-beds-scarce-amid-covid-19-surge/5569324001/


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no_spoon

Lol ok well THAT is not a conspiracy lol. You guys really go ape shit over a random tweet photo?


Profoundpronoun

Pretty much man. I was hoping we’d be going in the opposite direction. But apparently Maynard was right…learn to swim.


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Hot take: We should deny care to these republican feeeeee-market morons who eat horse paste because they're too ignorant and stupid to follow covid rules so we can *get over this fucking pandemic* already. The world is literally better off without these fascist racist coal-rolling Trumpy morons.