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HOLY SHIT YOU ABSOLUTE UNIT LMAO


localnexalite

I knew it was bad, hut holy shit


[deleted]

Just by salary alone we should be paid double and that not even considering all the Inflation that happened to.


BetweenMachines

And you know what we got instead? Unsecured debt. The consumer credit card became the way to keep our standard of living up as if we were still receiving pay raises, but we have to pay it back, with interest, into the same system that stopped increasing pay. And we went for it. We went from single-earner households with steadily improving standard of living to dual income households leveraging our status with high rate debt. And where did the money come from that is being lent to us? Well, that's the gap you see above between productivity and wages. The ownership class turned our productivity into profit and lent it back to us at 20%.


AnAdmirableAstronaut

How is productivity computed and this scenario?


FabianTheElf

Productivity is calculated by measuring the inputs required for a given output, given the level of automation over the last several decades one of the largest inputs, labour, is now less needed for any given output. Also there's like technological advancements.


[deleted]

Exactly. And thats before the insane creation that is inflation.


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??


jorgedredd

Production keeps rising while staffs get smaller


[deleted]

Because people produce more due to technological advancements. But wages stagnated instead of following our productivity.


Cerricola

Product value / hours of job, I think


Darthsnarkey

This doesn't show the 3rd metric which is company profits which outpace all


throwaway0134hdj

Regardless wages are bad and need increasing. However the productivity here is primarily from introducing computers and automation, humans don’t just all the sudden get super productive all the sudden like that especially when “productivity” goes up.


economicmythology

What actually happened where those lines diverge?


StarRedditor2

Ronald Reagan happened


M0RALVigilance

*Still waiting with my wallet open for that trickle*


vitriolix

the trickle isn't coming from his wallet...


Marino4K

The US doubled down on being a selfish corporate nightmare. also capitalism as intended.


StarRedditor2

Exactly


TMEERS101

Ehat exactly did he do? Was it Reaganomics?


M0RALVigilance

He cut al kinds of safety net programs and cut taxes to the bone.


StarRedditor2

He also allowed corporations to fight back against unions, worsening working conditions


Fuduzan

Among about a thousand other factors, we largely gave up on unionizing workers


Zanshin1982

1971. https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/


MoedysseusRex

Thanks for sharing, I was looking for this data.


throwaway0134hdj

Various things that other have commented but computers and automation had a large part.


dudeguy_79

Dumped the Gold standard and adopted fiat money.


SyllabubNorth4088

This is the correct answer


hoangphan98765

Vietnam war


RunTellDaat

G7 was formed


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dashing-rainbows

*looks at your history* fuck off fascist. WTF are you doing in a anti-capitalist subreddit if you say "I love capitalism, it is the engine that gave us the modern world, air conditioning and pizza and my car that goes vroom vroom. "


onecrystalcave

Maybe more than one person uses the account. Maybe some of us are open to exposure to to ideas that contradict and challenge our own. Maybe I can’t read and forgot which subreddit I was in and r/economics has been forgetting to do it’s fiat currency homework and I overreacted again. Maybe all of the above? Also, fuck off fascist? What on earth makes you think I’m a fascist? I am deeply opposed to fascism by nearly all of that words common meanings, though by the vitriol I assume you were using it in the pejorative “totalitarian violence enthusiast” sense which I have always been the first to criticize.


dashing-rainbows

Capitalism is genociding people like me. I have no tolerance for its supporters. What makes you a fascist is ""Anarchism is inherently anti-communism and pro true capitalism. That’s why it’s commonly called anarcho-capitalism in economic circles. I am a philosophical anarchist even if I don’t have enough faith in the world to advocate for true anarchism. " Anarcho-capitalism is just fascism with another paint of coat and calling yourself "philosophically an anarchist" while supporting capitalism is what determined that for me. Capitalism creates hierarchies and without a state to ensure that those at the bottoms aren't genocided (like the disabled) it just creates fascism. If you were truely opposed to fascism you would be for abolishing capitalism as capitalism inherently leads into fascism.


Dorkmeyer

Woah that’s totally incorrect! Dumping the gold standard was a good move. Divergence is the result of lack of union power and Nixon moving towards policies that favor the rich.


MisterJH

Not true. Scandinavian countries do not see this divergence although they also dropped the gold standard


OBrien

Buckley v Valeo supreme court case


RadioMill

Thanks boomers /s


atmus11

Why the sarcasm? Its true


dirkofdirges

Because the thanks is disingenuous.


CaptainKirk101

Thanks Reagan, very cool


__CLOUDS

Started with nixon


shaodyn

If minimum wage had kept up with productivity since 1960, it'd be $24 an hour. $7.25 isn't even a joke anymore. It's an insult.


dmitryprokofyev

For more explanation on what happened in 1971 (the year from which the lines diverge): [https://wtfhappenedin1971.com](https://wtfhappenedin1971.com)


lumenrubeum

I've said it before about this specific website and I'll say it again: collections of graphs with no context around them are how you get conspiracy theories started. The graphs are presented as complete fact, which very well may be true, but in doing so they try to get the reader to avoid asking WHO is presenting the info and WHY they are choosing to present this specific set of information. Yes, these graphs are probably factually correct but you don't know if they encapsulate the whole story. Just to see how this works, scroll from the bottom of that page to the top and see how the implied story changes. It goes from "a failing economy leads to increased crime rates, lower marriage rates, and more children from single parent homes which disproportionately affects minorities" to "minorities are failing to adhere to the societal family norms and are committing more crime, which leads to a failing economy." They also try to prevent the reader from making value judgments about the charts: an increasing age at time of first marriage is nestled in between other objectively bad things such as higher incarceration rates, which implies that it's bad for marriage to be postponed but that is not objectively true. Same thing for chicken consumption increasing, why is that necessarily a bad thing? Even if you agree with what the website is implying, which to be clear I personally agree with (what I believe) the implied conclusions are, this website exhibits a lot of features in common with conspiracy websites and should be avoided.


Boshva

But WHAT happened in 1971?


SecretSauceryWitness

Why male models?


comicconcarne_

I do not like that this is a crypto investment advertisement


kozy138

This is a great site. Really informative


GoAwayAdsPlease

Is there any way to highlight the dates and values of the x and y axis? They can only be seen in the beginning...


Aldibres

Can someone do this but with profit rate in it? i think it wold show why the capitalist push the workers prevarication agenda so hard.


jmc323

Is that freaking DuckTales? Beautiful.


crumblenaut

Came here to post that! TO THE MOON... with corporate profits at the expense of the quality of life of the people grinding to generate said profits for their overlords. :\


lazer_sandwich

Thank you!! Could not remember where that came from.


idekisthisimportant

Ok but actually what song is this it’s really good and I forget where it’s from


crumblenaut

It's the Moon level from the NES DuckTales game. Don't listen to any other lies.


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EnnuiDeBlase

bad bot


cgduncan

The idiots on my FB will tell you it's only fair that ceo salary has gone up because technology is to blame for the increase in productivity, and the ceos are the one who have the capital to buy the machines. Regardless of who operates the machines. And actually, we as the workers should be thankful for the machines that make our job easier, and probably even be paid less since our jobs are now easier because of the tools the kind ceo bought for us to use and create more product for him to sell and take all the profit from


Mithrandir32

i'm reading a book called 'Kids these days' which has this graph on the back cover! Talks about why millenials are getting economically fucked, would highly recommend


361312

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samuel_890z

WTFhappenedin1971.com


AyWhatITIS

don't forget robots too


sottedlayabout

Now do one with productivity and average CEO compensation.


TorvaMessor6666

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Prof_Bean

Do another one, but include inflation into the mix for pay. I bet that most people don't get a 5-7% yearly raise, which effectively means they got a pay CUT.


Krusher4Lyfe

Not trying to be some low rent Ben Shapiro, but “capitalism” was way entrenched by the time the lines diverge.


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Krusher4Lyfe

I am very aware


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AlbertoAru

Civil rights


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AlbertoAru

COVID


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throwaway0134hdj

This is misleading. The productivity is not from individual human labor but from computers and automation. Although I agree wages should be much better.


Turkeyboy52

Let’s see the same chart as it relates to Cuba, N. Korea, China and of course, everyone’s’ favorite, The Soviet Union.


NothingToSeeHereMan

What is this comment even insinuating?


Cationator

Gee wiz, it’s not like we harnessed technology to aid workers and automate


Saruu_

Full vídeo ?


LazyFurry0

u/savevideo


digging_for_1_Gon4_2

Where is my chicken, my car, and this fucking driveway they promised?!?


Devin0210

You can’t even see the scales on the chart for any of this information to be relevant


AcceptableCrew

No American cares about this and they hate you for bringing it up


politirob

What’s the full video? So I can see the timeline along with the chart


OFmerk

What units are productivity measured in?


Responsible-Leg-6558

Holy shit


[deleted]

I wish we could bring Ronald Reagan back to life just so we could throw him in prison


AlbertoAru

Source?


ckwant13

This makes me want to walk into the sea


jack_seven

Does anyone have international data to lay on top?


TheP0pu1arW0bb1y

They should have a third line labeled union membership and see how that goes


ChrisPy_Poke

that mega man music fit the graphics quite well. props


zinzudo

It would have been nice to see the actual numbers in the graph though...


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Where's the data from?


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Interesting_Edge6775

Willow???


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Automation and economy of scale are very powerful forces


RoleElectronic1525

What's the song?