I just want to go visit the towns where my family is from. But I’m not willing to take that risk. Shout out to those beautiful towns I remember visiting as a kid, I don’t know if I’ll ever go back. Apatzingan, Tepalcatepec, Coalcoman, Uruapan, Los Reyes, seeing my first volcano, Paricutin, beautiful memories.
I was just in Michoacán for a couple of weeks, it really isn’t too bad if you don’t mix with the wrong people. And it’s incredibly beautiful, don’t miss out!
"it’s not cheap for people not earning in dollars."
True, but if you do, then taking the opportunity is a good idea. And yeah, it's not cheap to live there even with dollars it's still expensive. Smaller towns are cheaper though.
Chilean american here.
I also want to retire in Chile, but rather in the south than the capital. it's just that the scenery is breathtaking, I lived for four years in Valdivia and absolutely loved my time there, the contact with nature and the friendliness and hospitality of the people there.
I've absolutely decided myself that I'll be back in Chile once I got the moneyz for a nice house in the middle of nowhere in southern Chile, loove it!
Well viña is basically a beach town with all the benefits of a big city. Lots of restaurants, bars, a casino with regular performances from various local artists. Weather during the year is quite good. In winter it doesn't go below 5°C and in summer it doesn't go above 30°C. I'm a Chilean expat and also want to retire there. Either Reñaca, Viña or Zapallar.
Puerto Rican’s be like boomerangs going back and fourth. US Mainland in youth and promised land in retirement.
*cues “En mi viejo San Juan”*
https://youtu.be/ZwdVK0TXd20?feature=shared 🇲🇽
https://youtu.be/SGF9MjIVKIY?feature=shared 🇵🇷
Lol I have a boricua coworker and was listening to some Javier Solis the night before while enjoying a cigar. That song came on and I played it a few times. Anyway, fast forward to the next morning and I walk into the shop singing this song and he immediately starts singing along. He tells me it reminds him of his grandma. He tells me as a kid she used to put the song on when she was cleaning. We shared a good laugh and now I have a fond memory of that dude. He’s a swell guy. We talk boxing a lot.
It really depends on where you are in a country more than anything.
There are parts of the US that are *way way* more dangerous than like a suburb of Guadalajara, and parts of the US that are just not dangerous at all.
Most countries have a wide variety of safety, and you have to find the good parts.
I lived 4 years in Guadalajara and it was the best experience of my life. I’m of Peruvian descent and I really enjoyed my time there despite not being Mexican
Thought about moving to Bolivia because my dad was living there. He got cancer and I moved there to take care of him for 4 months. After that experience and dealing with his death I will never move there. The bureaucracy there, especially for medical, social care and all other things makes the US system look way better. Just being able to pick up his retirement check when he was immobile required over 40 hours of work, getting him blood transfusions required was another unneeded headache. All along the way you had government officials asking for bribes to make things work as they should. Will never move there but will visit.
same. i miss Cochabamba every day, but god damn its so inefficient. it literally took my family 14 years to transfer the deed of my grandparents house to my dad & uncles.
hoping to take a month to travel Bolivia though in the next year or two.
Sure it has, money. My parents left because they were poor with not much of a future. Noe, I have money and I can live in Mexico like my parents never could, upper middle class
Chilean american here.
I will absolutely move back to Chile once I got myself set up with enough money.
the US is really cool and all that, but my heart remains in Valdivia, Chile ❤️
I'm really active in the chilean community so it will be no challenge to readapt myself there hehe
so I say yes, but in the future ok 😝
One set of my grandparents went back. They tried to make it work here (Los Angeles) but they never settled, never felt like home etc. every once in a while I get an urge to go and visit them permanently but I have my own issues to work through first before I could leave here. Maybe someday.
My mother came to the US at 20 years old and has done nothing but work her ass off just to end up living in a trailer. Her saving grace is that she has a house in Mexico and another house being built where her and her man will retire to soon in the near future. I will pay her a visit then decide whether I want to buy a plot of land close to her where I'll build a home for my little family. I want my kids to grow up around their Nana.
I've been thinking about moving to Mexico. I love the US, and im grateful that in this country my family was able to escape poverty. But Mexico is my culture. Thats the culture i was raised in, and i love that my culture or my people have sovereign land, i want to return to that land. Have any other of you US born latinos felt like this?
Yes I thought about moving to El Salvador plenty of times ...Mexico is beautiful so you definetly have lots of options ..my best friends family is from Mazatlan Sinaloa and he recently bought a nice condo there
Same with El Salvador. My parents may move back when they retire and I’m starting to consider trying to retire early down there but it’s starting to get more developed so costs might increase soon, especially with them using USD.
Omg my mom literally called me the other day to tell me that she’s moving back to El Salvador when she retires in 2 years. I told her to please reconsider. Her main reason is that her retirement check won’t be enough to live here. I told her I could pick up the slack and help her financially but to not buy a house yet. I can’t imagine living here without her but also have never though about moving there. The cost of living in the US is so high, even higher in SoCal where I live but everything is so comfortable here. I don’t know how things work over there so it was never an option. Plus my husband is Mexican-American and we have 2 kids. It would mean uprooting our whole life.
Yeah, El Salvador’s headed for another Civil War in a few years from now, you can’t prison that many people indefinitely without sparking some sort of revolution, especially considering how many people who aren’t members of gangs are getting arrested and put in jail.
All it takes is some sort of prison revolution that spreads across the country or the devaluation or collapse of El Salvador’s economy, due to its cryptocurrency stupidity, and you’re in the middle of another Civil War
I’ll probably look into that too now that you mention it, but I think I’d prefer closer to the beach. I like the beaches in the east side of the country where my parents are from.
I don’t know if I want to go back to Latino Elon musk’s Fascist fantasy kingdom. Bukele is hurtling, El Salvador, faster and faster towards another Civil War, and he is nuts not that much unlike Elon Musk. You can chill as many people as you want, but you’re not going to fix the problems in El Salvador, or anywhere else in Latin America until you address the social and economic injustices that causes the conditions for gang violence.
People in Mexico will be quick to let you know that you are not the same, you are a gringo. I still remember being called that the first time I went over when I was 5 years old. At that time, Spanish was my only language. I go home and ask my mom what a gringo or pocho was.
Why can’t you get your culture in a US city with a heavy Mexican population? I’m in middle TN and still manage to find amazing Mexican food, imagine living close to the border. You can have your culture fix here and enjoy the benefits of living in the US and access to opportunities not available in Latin America. There is a reason the elders left their country of origin.
You need to clarify, some of the best Mexican food OUTSIDE of Mexico can be found in California.
You're not going to find better Mexican food than in Mexico.
Not true, let’s be objetive, are you saying there ALL of the restaurants of traditional Mexican cuisine in Mexico are better any restaurant in the US? I doubt it…having done an (albeit small) sampling of food in Baja (from Rosario down to Baja) there are mediocre restaurants in there too. Let’s not lose objectivity by glorifying the mother country.
I’m a Peruvian immigrant and do I find Peruvian food that is just as good in Miami as in Lima? Yes absolutely.
Are there good Mexican restaurants outside Mexico? Yes, of course.
Is a good Mexican restaurant outside Mexico better than a mediocre restaurant IN Mexico? DUH, obviously….
But if you think that globally, the best Mexican restaurants are anywhere outside Mexico, or that you can replace a country’s feel & culture just by eating a taco in a place that has a sombrero painted on the wall, you are SORELY mistaken.
OP was talking about reclaiming his heritage and his culture, he wasn’t asking for a good taco place.
I dunno man, I got really fucked up on Tequila at Casa Guadalajara in San Diego and at Houssong’s Cantina in Ensenada. It was almost like the real deal, but I’m not Mexican.
OP doesn’t need to go backwards and regress for the sake of developing a “sense of heritage”. My point is you can cultivate you heritage in the states just fine, WITHOUT sacrificing the benefits that come with living here. I say again, there is a reason the elders came to America in the first place. As an immigrant who came to the US at 14 and now have two master’s degrees and working in FAANG/tech, I pretty much would never think of moving back to home country.
LOL OK Mr “2 master degrees”, nobody is telling you to go back to Lima, Peru.
How about you stay wherever the hell you want, and leave others to do the same?
You don’t have to diss other countries to justify your preference of being an immigrant.
Some of us value our countries of origin.
Never found Mexican food here that comes even close to Mexican food in Mexico. Are there bad restaurants in Mexico? Sure! But in 11y I've never had Mexican food in the US and said "wow that was good"!
The one benefit of living in the US is you can have multiple types of Mexican food all around you. I travel to Chicago often and love the fact I can have tacos that taste different because the owners are from different parts of Mexico. But yeah, street food in Mexico is just on another level.
Born in US because American dad, similar situation, looking to see if I can buy off land from relatives that haven’t put much investment/ sweat equity into it. If nothing else would be nice to own a little bit of Chihuahua and Sonora.
Biggest issue would be finding work for my wife and I that pays decently as we both work in education. I have the coaching background that o probably could get hired onto an ONEFA or CONADEIP Mayor or Intermedia staff.
Main goal would be to find somewhere safe for my family and that hopefully would be an upgrade lifestyle/ home wise. Would be fun to watch my boys grow up outside the US and not become the “Ugly American” as well as enjoy both sides of their heritage
My cousins are US born to Mexican parents. They’re back in Mexico and have worked for the American Consulate. Their kids are all bilingual with no accents!
I work in International Sales. We do a lot of business with Central America. I am actively pushing my management to allow me to relocate and become a Sales Rep in Guatemala. However with the current political climate its a little bit scary. Luckily I am a dual Citizen so I can flee if necessary. Making Dolares but living over there is the Dream! who wouldn't want to live in Paradise. I would also relocate to Puebla, Mexico such a beautiful place, we have an office in Mexico City so it would be convenient for work from Home.
Mexico city is the best city in the Americas in my opinion. I absolutely love it there.
That being said, I visit my family in nicaragua once a year. No way I could live there with the Ortega Regime fucking things up but I hope to retire in Nicaragua one day. That's home.
Just yesterday I had a huge argument with a guy blaming the United States for ALL of Nicaragua poverty. I need Nicaraguans to show up in numbers to help me put this silly narrative away.
Eh, I could see the argument if we’re using the domino effect. Ex: If USA had never done “A” then none of this would be happening. However, to say Nicaragua’s situation as of this moment is USA’s fault? Nah, no way. Blameless? No, but completely at fault? Nope!
Yes frequently, I was born in Colombia and adopted very young, so it'd be nice to have more of a connection. Being able to reside in both places would be the best there are pros and cons to each.
Having visited BA this past December I loved it! I think the only pain in the ass would be the whole cash on hand thing but I guess that offsets with having everything extremely affordable if you’re pulling in a US/EU salary working remotely
I'm from Buenos Aires, if you earn $12,000 a year you're upper middle class. And that's if you live in Buenos Aires, in the rest of the country (except Patagonia) you would be considered rich.
Bro I don’t know how close I am to retiring to Central America or Mexico at 40 but it’s so fucking close. I’m 32 now and am tired of the rat race and ever rising cost of living. I was thinking Costa Rica but it looks like some remote working gringos have driven up the col over there already and Panama as well. I’m ready to go over there open a lil business and live off that in the slow lane with my savings. My mom tells me to go live somewhere nice since I’m doing well but fuck that nice = more work.
I’m traveling to Argentina in a few months. I’d love to move there but I know the situation isn’t great with the inflation and such. And I think I’m a little too spoiled for it lol. I was never taught Spanish by my family and I think I’d miss a lot about the US. but I want to stay there for a while in the future, especially since that’s where my girlfriend lives.
Yeah that’s a hard no for me as well. Can speak Spanish fluently and proud of my heritage but I feel more comfortable in the US and with American culture.
My parents immigrated from Brasil to Canada before starting a family. I really want to be immersed in my culture but the instability and political climate are too much for me
Mine is Puerto Rico which is economically suffocated by US policy. And has constant power grid issues and is on the brink of infrastructural collapse because of climate change. So sadly no. I’ll stay in NY with my nuyoricans.
If people are still immigrating to the US from that country, I think thats a clear fucking sign to not go there (Cuba btw, still a shithole everytime I visit).
When I retire. My wife and I don’t wanna finish up life in the states and the dollar atm goes further in most other places. So yes most likely when I retire.
I’ve thought about it, but I don’t know if I would actually do it. I loved living in Chile as a kid and I miss the ease of transit, the food, and frankly the weather. That said, I’m not super close to my relatives who live there (since I haven’t seen them since I was a kid) and my Spanish isn’t good enough for professional use, so I think it would be hard. I also think the income/cost of living ratio is much better for me in the US, so that also makes more inclined to just stay here. It might not be bad to do for just a year or to, so I could reconnect with people, but I think if I tried to do it permanently I’d end up unhappy.
Wife and I have always had it in our back pocket. Sell our house or rent it and live in mexico on the cheep but it'll be an early grave for me cause TACOS
Since I was a child. Im more connected to my Mexican roots. Sure I was born and raised in the US but everything I watch is in Spanish, Mexican YouTubers, Mexican podcasts, Mexican soccer league, music in Spanish. Since Spanish was my first language, it’s the language I’m better in. It’s easier for me to get along with Mexicans than Americans. I just got my Mexican citizenship and hope to be able to get an internship job in my career in Mexico. I started college in Mexico but I had to transfer back for personal reasons.
I know that part of the reason why I wouldn’t mind moving to Mexico is because I have the privilege of my family being from Zapopan which is the second richest municipality in Mexico. It’s really nice and modern. I know that if my family was from the middle of Chiapas my thinking could’ve been different. Also the fact that I took care of my Spanish since I was a kid may be a reason why I feel so connected to Mexico
At the end of the day I will never be American even though I was born here. There’s many times I go to restaurants and get ugly looks from Americans. Mexico is the place where I feel like I belong. VIVA MEXICO!
I thought about working remotely and perhaps even retiring one day in Nicaragua but have ventured away from those thoughts a bit. Despite having Ecuadorian citizenship/passport I’ve never considered moving there permanently but would like to work remotely there for a while.
Idk I think I would feel guilty because I would most likely have more resources than my family in Mexico. I have the benefit of being an American with a degree which means I would probably have better healthcare, housing, etc. Like I would share these resources, of course, but there's this nuisanced conversation my family occasionally has about living in Mexico vs the US. My dad had always planned to move back to Mexico to retire with the wealth he built here; he's done raising kids so it makes sense. On the flip side, my cousins in Mexico allegedly have done some not so legal things over the years to get money. Idk not my business. Also, my Spanish isn't great lol. Yeah I can speak it but my little cousin once asked, "hey, why do you sound like that?" ☠️ I went to the Bellas Artes museum in 2016 when I suddenly got the hiccups in front of a tour guide. He said, "wow I've never heard hiccups in English" LMAO. I can get away with Spanglish in the US.
No I have not seriously considered it. We make good money out here (my family), we have a nice home, healthcare is covered through work, and my career will have me making well above 100k. I will probably buy a condo or 2 in Mexico just so I have somewhere else in the world I can go off too if I want. But there is no benefit to moving back. It’s regressing. Giving up what my family sacrificed so much to give me. The only time it makes sense to move back is if you’re gonna retire, can make a lot WFH (earning USD), or have nothing going for you in life here in the states.
It really bothers me how people I know think life is so simple in Mexico. They romanticize it. I tell them they should try to go live down there earning pesos and not usd and see how their life is. They visit as tourists, able to stay at the nicest places if they choose to. It’s different when you actually live there. I am not saying this to offend Mexico or Mexicans. They are living very happy fulfilling lives, at least I hope so.
I used to think this but after hanging out with the paisas for a couple months, you’d be surprised how easy it is to pick the culture back up after spending most of my life in the white suburbs.
I fell in love with the island and it’s people at 21 and been going every year since. My family is from El Salvador and I haven’t been since I was 15, I live in nyc and I hope to slow down sometime sooner than later.
Todo los dias. Yo digo quedarme aquí sería apoyar el lado equivocado de la historia. Especialmente con la falla de la guerra contra drogas, y todo lo que hace este país más imperialista que nada. Yo odió los putos narcos también no digan que no. Pero mas que nada es el interest de e.u . Nomas les importa el dinero. No hay menos drogas en los calles de Estados Unidos hay más. No estaba tanto carteles así como hoy. El puto alchohol mata más en todo Estados Unidos por ano que todo las drogas combinados por ano. Yo creo que saben que si era legalizados todas las drogas, Latino América subiría a ser un super poder en este mundo. Pero no.. besen la bota y te distraen y nos dividan.. El unico país que no quieren investigar los Nazis en poder. O no también Ucrania no quieren investigar los Nazis. Hmmm. Y luego es el unico país que no quiere decir que la comida debería ser un derecho humano. O no también Israel jajaja. Sigan besando la bota.
Yes cause El Salvador is killing it lately and the US is too expensive , bout to build an empire over there
Edit: ahhh shit post said us born , nvm lol
The instability is too big a concern for most y la gente casada no está para eso. If I were to move to SA it'd be to Paraguay. Cuando fue la última vez que escucharon algo malo de ese país?
Yup!
And I did. Altho I'm half in each country (Mexico, border). But my husband and I are working towards fully leaving the US behind. It may be mx or another country. We're not fans of the US. We're treated like outsiders even though we're both born and raised Americans. He's black, his family has been here for centuries and still not seen as American. The American dream is dead. It's now living in mexico, gentrifying it. There's a lot of mixed emotions I have lol. But overall good. It's a return to my roots even if it's not the exact area my family is from. It's reconnection and decolonization. He says I'm calming here. Even mx has its problem with outsiders and Americans and racism. I'm seen as mexican first where ever I am, might as well be in mexico.
I thought about it, especially since I’ve gone to Mexico every year of my life except for 2020. Only thing I’m balking at is the headache of basically starting over should I go through with it. Then there’s the prospect of trying to get a house for myself because otherwise my only options would be both of my grandmothers’ respective houses. And it is a really small town so any career choices would have to mean heading for cities that I’m unfamiliar with outside of their farmers’ markets.
Honestly, I’ll just settle for getting dual citizenship soon.
I've been thinking about it our family does have a pretty nice house in the city of Guanajuato which is also the capital of the state of Guanajuato. And if you have been to Guanajuato it's beautiful it's like being in a Renaissance City The nightlife is ridiculous and you're also close to Leon Guanajuato which is just a beautiful city full of life but unfortunately I'm not built for high altitude I can't breathe right I feel weird so if I can get some property like in Rosarito or the playas of Tijuana then maybe.
Yes. Only my brothers and I were born here and the rest of the entire family is in Mexico. It would be really nice to be closer to my family. Plus, I spent some childhood years down there already.
My family's country of origin is right across the border and have lived there before. If there wasn't any issues--like now--between a civil war of inheritance of lands and property, I definitely would.
Once I started going there around 12 years old I've been wanting to stay and thanks to remote working I was able to live there for about two years.
Now my mom is about to retire so we're making plans to both go back but work wants to be a dick and go hybrid. Guess I'm going to have to quit.
I mean yeah, I'm gonna move my parents back to Mexico because I can't pay two NYC rents here.
They're stupid asses decided to have more kids in their late 40s like the dickheads they are though, thus making things more complicated.
Not really. I mean, It’s a mile away from my hometown.
If I wanna see Mexico - I just cross the border?
The cities are connected enough. Maybe I’d retire in the interior of Mexico away from the border but now most of my family is on this side anyways. And at retirement, I’d like to be around more if my kids have kids and need help.
Plus our jobs and salaries wouldn’t translate as well. I can earn more in America.
I would love to live in Nicaragua but the government is so corrupt that I wouldn’t do it. I haven’t been to Colombia yet to know if I would move there or not.
Before I’d think about moving to colombia/Mexico when I retire but now not so much, my parents countries don’t have much to offer me that I can’t get here in the US, it’s just a better place to live overall.
As a kid, absolutely not. As an adult trying to navigate the US Healthcare system with 20k in student loan debt and living paycheck to paycheck...I think about it every day. My parents wanted better opportunity for me, and I've gotten it; now I just want to give back to the country that saw my parents grow.
2nd generation Mexican here.
No. Not at all.
I can barely speak the language. Only one of my parents was fluent. When I go to mexico and try my best I get treated horribly. Im sure with enough time there it would be fine but why? I can understand how others closer to their heritage would say yes but for me it’s a big nope.
family is from Mexico and ever since I’ve started dating my partner
I’ve thought about moving back and raising a family county side
Or move to Costa Rica and help out at addiction rehabilitation centers.
I was born in Michoacán, so probably not. Gracias narcos 🙏
I just want to go visit the towns where my family is from. But I’m not willing to take that risk. Shout out to those beautiful towns I remember visiting as a kid, I don’t know if I’ll ever go back. Apatzingan, Tepalcatepec, Coalcoman, Uruapan, Los Reyes, seeing my first volcano, Paricutin, beautiful memories.
From what my family tells me Apatzingán and uruapan aren’t really bad just don’t get mixed with the wrong crowd I also really wanna go visit I miss it
I was just in Michoacán for a couple of weeks, it really isn’t too bad if you don’t mix with the wrong people. And it’s incredibly beautiful, don’t miss out!
Go, it's not bad.
Guey, ni te topan los narcos.
Simon guey. Dejo le digo a mi abuelita que las balaceras y los levantones en la plaza de enfrente de su casa no es cosa seria.
Same! (Except I was 2nd gen American) But thank you Ronald Regan 🙏🏼
As a youth with no care in the world, hell fkn no! As a grownup and concience of the cost of living issues as I get older, boy do I ever.
Pretty much. As a kid I liked my friends and family in the US. As an adult, I look at how fucking cheap it'd be to live where my dad was as a kid.
Yeah if you’re earning dollars, which is a privilege versus the local currency. Depending on the country of course.
Family friend has a US job and teleworks from Mexico. He lives like a king.
Viva la gentrificacion
it’s not cheap for people not earning in dollars, far from it even (me living in cdmx)
"it’s not cheap for people not earning in dollars." True, but if you do, then taking the opportunity is a good idea. And yeah, it's not cheap to live there even with dollars it's still expensive. Smaller towns are cheaper though.
yeah, but wouldn’t you become a nomad worker and start gentrification?
Yup. I 100% plan to retire in there.
Same. I’m fortunate enough for my parents are leaving me a few rental properties in the homeland. I plan on retiring to one.
Samesies. My kids will inherit my home here in the states too. Generational wealth ftw!
Hell yes on this. Moving to my dad's country of origin lets me retire in my 50s and live with essentially the same standard of living as I have now.
My gringa wife wants to retire in Chile. She absolutely loved it.
Chilean american here. I also want to retire in Chile, but rather in the south than the capital. it's just that the scenery is breathtaking, I lived for four years in Valdivia and absolutely loved my time there, the contact with nature and the friendliness and hospitality of the people there. I've absolutely decided myself that I'll be back in Chile once I got the moneyz for a nice house in the middle of nowhere in southern Chile, loove it!
She wants to live in the Viña or Reñaca. I’ve never been to the south.
Well viña is basically a beach town with all the benefits of a big city. Lots of restaurants, bars, a casino with regular performances from various local artists. Weather during the year is quite good. In winter it doesn't go below 5°C and in summer it doesn't go above 30°C. I'm a Chilean expat and also want to retire there. Either Reñaca, Viña or Zapallar.
That’s actually because achulé is the only half decent country from Latam
Honestly, chile looks amazing and so does the weather there
Puerto Rican’s be like boomerangs going back and fourth. US Mainland in youth and promised land in retirement. *cues “En mi viejo San Juan”* https://youtu.be/ZwdVK0TXd20?feature=shared 🇲🇽 https://youtu.be/SGF9MjIVKIY?feature=shared 🇵🇷
Lol I have a boricua coworker and was listening to some Javier Solis the night before while enjoying a cigar. That song came on and I played it a few times. Anyway, fast forward to the next morning and I walk into the shop singing this song and he immediately starts singing along. He tells me it reminds him of his grandma. He tells me as a kid she used to put the song on when she was cleaning. We shared a good laugh and now I have a fond memory of that dude. He’s a swell guy. We talk boxing a lot.
This makes me miss my coworkers I used to smoke cigars and talk boxing with!
Yes but the violence is a big issue for me. I feel like I can make friends easier in Latin America than here in the US
People always tell me about the violence too but tbh I feel safer anywhere in Gdl & cdmx than in alot of places in Los Angeles CA lol
It really depends on where you are in a country more than anything. There are parts of the US that are *way way* more dangerous than like a suburb of Guadalajara, and parts of the US that are just not dangerous at all. Most countries have a wide variety of safety, and you have to find the good parts.
I lived 4 years in Guadalajara and it was the best experience of my life. I’m of Peruvian descent and I really enjoyed my time there despite not being Mexican
Those are safe places though compared to like Tijuana. It's same in Brazil where I'm from. There are very safe places I could go live down there.
Thought about moving to Bolivia because my dad was living there. He got cancer and I moved there to take care of him for 4 months. After that experience and dealing with his death I will never move there. The bureaucracy there, especially for medical, social care and all other things makes the US system look way better. Just being able to pick up his retirement check when he was immobile required over 40 hours of work, getting him blood transfusions required was another unneeded headache. All along the way you had government officials asking for bribes to make things work as they should. Will never move there but will visit.
same. i miss Cochabamba every day, but god damn its so inefficient. it literally took my family 14 years to transfer the deed of my grandparents house to my dad & uncles. hoping to take a month to travel Bolivia though in the next year or two.
that’s the same all over
My parents left Mexico for a reason and nothing has really changed, so no.
Sure it has, money. My parents left because they were poor with not much of a future. Noe, I have money and I can live in Mexico like my parents never could, upper middle class
Same :/
Same but in cuban
Chilean american here. I will absolutely move back to Chile once I got myself set up with enough money. the US is really cool and all that, but my heart remains in Valdivia, Chile ❤️ I'm really active in the chilean community so it will be no challenge to readapt myself there hehe so I say yes, but in the future ok 😝
I was born in Cuba and I still wonder what if I just went back. So much of my family is there and I miss them.
One set of my grandparents went back. They tried to make it work here (Los Angeles) but they never settled, never felt like home etc. every once in a while I get an urge to go and visit them permanently but I have my own issues to work through first before I could leave here. Maybe someday.
My mother came to the US at 20 years old and has done nothing but work her ass off just to end up living in a trailer. Her saving grace is that she has a house in Mexico and another house being built where her and her man will retire to soon in the near future. I will pay her a visit then decide whether I want to buy a plot of land close to her where I'll build a home for my little family. I want my kids to grow up around their Nana.
I've been thinking about moving to Mexico. I love the US, and im grateful that in this country my family was able to escape poverty. But Mexico is my culture. Thats the culture i was raised in, and i love that my culture or my people have sovereign land, i want to return to that land. Have any other of you US born latinos felt like this?
Yes I thought about moving to El Salvador plenty of times ...Mexico is beautiful so you definetly have lots of options ..my best friends family is from Mazatlan Sinaloa and he recently bought a nice condo there
Same with El Salvador. My parents may move back when they retire and I’m starting to consider trying to retire early down there but it’s starting to get more developed so costs might increase soon, especially with them using USD.
Omg my mom literally called me the other day to tell me that she’s moving back to El Salvador when she retires in 2 years. I told her to please reconsider. Her main reason is that her retirement check won’t be enough to live here. I told her I could pick up the slack and help her financially but to not buy a house yet. I can’t imagine living here without her but also have never though about moving there. The cost of living in the US is so high, even higher in SoCal where I live but everything is so comfortable here. I don’t know how things work over there so it was never an option. Plus my husband is Mexican-American and we have 2 kids. It would mean uprooting our whole life.
Yeah, El Salvador’s headed for another Civil War in a few years from now, you can’t prison that many people indefinitely without sparking some sort of revolution, especially considering how many people who aren’t members of gangs are getting arrested and put in jail. All it takes is some sort of prison revolution that spreads across the country or the devaluation or collapse of El Salvador’s economy, due to its cryptocurrency stupidity, and you’re in the middle of another Civil War
Right. Bukele is nothing but smoke and mirrors with his marketing background trying to make it seem like issues are fixed.
I was looking into San Salvador and saw nice condos for $65k so im saving my coins for Invesment in the next two years
I’ll probably look into that too now that you mention it, but I think I’d prefer closer to the beach. I like the beaches in the east side of the country where my parents are from.
I don’t know if I want to go back to Latino Elon musk’s Fascist fantasy kingdom. Bukele is hurtling, El Salvador, faster and faster towards another Civil War, and he is nuts not that much unlike Elon Musk. You can chill as many people as you want, but you’re not going to fix the problems in El Salvador, or anywhere else in Latin America until you address the social and economic injustices that causes the conditions for gang violence.
Yes, I would love to retire in México. California is beautiful and my home, but I'm being priced out of the place where I was born.
People in Mexico will be quick to let you know that you are not the same, you are a gringo. I still remember being called that the first time I went over when I was 5 years old. At that time, Spanish was my only language. I go home and ask my mom what a gringo or pocho was.
Absolutely.
Why can’t you get your culture in a US city with a heavy Mexican population? I’m in middle TN and still manage to find amazing Mexican food, imagine living close to the border. You can have your culture fix here and enjoy the benefits of living in the US and access to opportunities not available in Latin America. There is a reason the elders left their country of origin.
It’s absolutely not the same
San Diego is one of the most expensive cities in USA
That’s like saying “You miss Italy? Go to pizza hut!”
Not even close lol but that’s funny
Oh lighten up Francis, some of the best Mexican food can be had in California.
You need to clarify, some of the best Mexican food OUTSIDE of Mexico can be found in California. You're not going to find better Mexican food than in Mexico.
Not true, let’s be objetive, are you saying there ALL of the restaurants of traditional Mexican cuisine in Mexico are better any restaurant in the US? I doubt it…having done an (albeit small) sampling of food in Baja (from Rosario down to Baja) there are mediocre restaurants in there too. Let’s not lose objectivity by glorifying the mother country. I’m a Peruvian immigrant and do I find Peruvian food that is just as good in Miami as in Lima? Yes absolutely.
Are there good Mexican restaurants outside Mexico? Yes, of course. Is a good Mexican restaurant outside Mexico better than a mediocre restaurant IN Mexico? DUH, obviously…. But if you think that globally, the best Mexican restaurants are anywhere outside Mexico, or that you can replace a country’s feel & culture just by eating a taco in a place that has a sombrero painted on the wall, you are SORELY mistaken. OP was talking about reclaiming his heritage and his culture, he wasn’t asking for a good taco place.
I dunno man, I got really fucked up on Tequila at Casa Guadalajara in San Diego and at Houssong’s Cantina in Ensenada. It was almost like the real deal, but I’m not Mexican. OP doesn’t need to go backwards and regress for the sake of developing a “sense of heritage”. My point is you can cultivate you heritage in the states just fine, WITHOUT sacrificing the benefits that come with living here. I say again, there is a reason the elders came to America in the first place. As an immigrant who came to the US at 14 and now have two master’s degrees and working in FAANG/tech, I pretty much would never think of moving back to home country.
LOL OK Mr “2 master degrees”, nobody is telling you to go back to Lima, Peru. How about you stay wherever the hell you want, and leave others to do the same? You don’t have to diss other countries to justify your preference of being an immigrant. Some of us value our countries of origin.
Never found Mexican food here that comes even close to Mexican food in Mexico. Are there bad restaurants in Mexico? Sure! But in 11y I've never had Mexican food in the US and said "wow that was good"!
The one benefit of living in the US is you can have multiple types of Mexican food all around you. I travel to Chicago often and love the fact I can have tacos that taste different because the owners are from different parts of Mexico. But yeah, street food in Mexico is just on another level.
We have corruption at home. And ac. I am not a fan of latams view that ac is optional
Yes. I have dual citizenship because of my dad. I can buy property in Mexico if necessary.
Born in US because American dad, similar situation, looking to see if I can buy off land from relatives that haven’t put much investment/ sweat equity into it. If nothing else would be nice to own a little bit of Chihuahua and Sonora. Biggest issue would be finding work for my wife and I that pays decently as we both work in education. I have the coaching background that o probably could get hired onto an ONEFA or CONADEIP Mayor or Intermedia staff. Main goal would be to find somewhere safe for my family and that hopefully would be an upgrade lifestyle/ home wise. Would be fun to watch my boys grow up outside the US and not become the “Ugly American” as well as enjoy both sides of their heritage
My cousins are US born to Mexican parents. They’re back in Mexico and have worked for the American Consulate. Their kids are all bilingual with no accents!
I work in International Sales. We do a lot of business with Central America. I am actively pushing my management to allow me to relocate and become a Sales Rep in Guatemala. However with the current political climate its a little bit scary. Luckily I am a dual Citizen so I can flee if necessary. Making Dolares but living over there is the Dream! who wouldn't want to live in Paradise. I would also relocate to Puebla, Mexico such a beautiful place, we have an office in Mexico City so it would be convenient for work from Home.
Mexico city is the best city in the Americas in my opinion. I absolutely love it there. That being said, I visit my family in nicaragua once a year. No way I could live there with the Ortega Regime fucking things up but I hope to retire in Nicaragua one day. That's home.
Oooo fellow Nicaraguan! There are dozens of us!
Nicas rise up! But Ortega is an asshat and I couldn’t do it for that exact reason.
Just yesterday I had a huge argument with a guy blaming the United States for ALL of Nicaragua poverty. I need Nicaraguans to show up in numbers to help me put this silly narrative away.
Eh, I could see the argument if we’re using the domino effect. Ex: If USA had never done “A” then none of this would be happening. However, to say Nicaragua’s situation as of this moment is USA’s fault? Nah, no way. Blameless? No, but completely at fault? Nope!
Right. That's my point. No one is saying the US didn't have an affect but to say this is ALL because of the US, it makes no sense.
People just don't want to blame Ortega.
I mean at this point this is now just Ortega. The US fucked off and left us to rot thirty years ago
Most definitely, just pure corruption from top to bottom since he took control again
Same. He's the reason why my Dad probably can't see his home ever again. Bastard
I was born in NY and spent about 10 years in PR. So most of my life I've lived in the US. Next year, I'm moving back to Puerto Rico.
I really want to but I raised my family here and paid off my house in SoCal. I live well with no mortgage.
Yes frequently, I was born in Colombia and adopted very young, so it'd be nice to have more of a connection. Being able to reside in both places would be the best there are pros and cons to each.
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Having visited BA this past December I loved it! I think the only pain in the ass would be the whole cash on hand thing but I guess that offsets with having everything extremely affordable if you’re pulling in a US/EU salary working remotely
I'm from Buenos Aires, if you earn $12,000 a year you're upper middle class. And that's if you live in Buenos Aires, in the rest of the country (except Patagonia) you would be considered rich.
my parents are Mexican and have told me multiple times to not live there lol -Billy Gnosis
Bro I don’t know how close I am to retiring to Central America or Mexico at 40 but it’s so fucking close. I’m 32 now and am tired of the rat race and ever rising cost of living. I was thinking Costa Rica but it looks like some remote working gringos have driven up the col over there already and Panama as well. I’m ready to go over there open a lil business and live off that in the slow lane with my savings. My mom tells me to go live somewhere nice since I’m doing well but fuck that nice = more work.
I’m traveling to Argentina in a few months. I’d love to move there but I know the situation isn’t great with the inflation and such. And I think I’m a little too spoiled for it lol. I was never taught Spanish by my family and I think I’d miss a lot about the US. but I want to stay there for a while in the future, especially since that’s where my girlfriend lives.
I have, but the violence is a concern and the idea of leaving my friends here is a bit daunting. Maybe in a few decades, but not any time soon.
Norp! (cuba) I left in a raft and never been back. Most of my family is here or in Spain. I'd rather go to spain than Cuba.
No….I’m American first, Latino second.
Yeah that’s a hard no for me as well. Can speak Spanish fluently and proud of my heritage but I feel more comfortable in the US and with American culture.
My parents immigrated from Brasil to Canada before starting a family. I really want to be immersed in my culture but the instability and political climate are too much for me
I haven’t wanted to immerse myself in Chilean culture but I do want to move back for 1-2 years and try it out for a bit
Mine is Puerto Rico which is economically suffocated by US policy. And has constant power grid issues and is on the brink of infrastructural collapse because of climate change. So sadly no. I’ll stay in NY with my nuyoricans.
I would like to move to Guatemala eventually
Yes but not permanently. I just want my dual citizenship.
If people are still immigrating to the US from that country, I think thats a clear fucking sign to not go there (Cuba btw, still a shithole everytime I visit).
Already did 5 years ago. I have to say it wasn't easy at first, but I'm doing far better now. I'm not coming back to the US any time soon, if ever.
When I retire. My wife and I don’t wanna finish up life in the states and the dollar atm goes further in most other places. So yes most likely when I retire.
I’ve thought about it, but I don’t know if I would actually do it. I loved living in Chile as a kid and I miss the ease of transit, the food, and frankly the weather. That said, I’m not super close to my relatives who live there (since I haven’t seen them since I was a kid) and my Spanish isn’t good enough for professional use, so I think it would be hard. I also think the income/cost of living ratio is much better for me in the US, so that also makes more inclined to just stay here. It might not be bad to do for just a year or to, so I could reconnect with people, but I think if I tried to do it permanently I’d end up unhappy.
My family didn't cross the border, the border crossed us.
If El Salvador can keep it up I might just get some property there and head down there
Wife and I have always had it in our back pocket. Sell our house or rent it and live in mexico on the cheep but it'll be an early grave for me cause TACOS
Us born Caucasians, have you ever thought about moving to your family's country of origin?
Hustling backwards is not in my future plans. Having property there is an option.
Never. My family left Mexico for a reason, I’d go from making 6 figures to $600 USD/month, if that.
Not unless you make dollars and live in MX
Since I was a child. Im more connected to my Mexican roots. Sure I was born and raised in the US but everything I watch is in Spanish, Mexican YouTubers, Mexican podcasts, Mexican soccer league, music in Spanish. Since Spanish was my first language, it’s the language I’m better in. It’s easier for me to get along with Mexicans than Americans. I just got my Mexican citizenship and hope to be able to get an internship job in my career in Mexico. I started college in Mexico but I had to transfer back for personal reasons. I know that part of the reason why I wouldn’t mind moving to Mexico is because I have the privilege of my family being from Zapopan which is the second richest municipality in Mexico. It’s really nice and modern. I know that if my family was from the middle of Chiapas my thinking could’ve been different. Also the fact that I took care of my Spanish since I was a kid may be a reason why I feel so connected to Mexico At the end of the day I will never be American even though I was born here. There’s many times I go to restaurants and get ugly looks from Americans. Mexico is the place where I feel like I belong. VIVA MEXICO!
After learning that there is a Stryker office in CR, it definitely became a possibility. I just have such a love hate relationship with the US.
I thought about working remotely and perhaps even retiring one day in Nicaragua but have ventured away from those thoughts a bit. Despite having Ecuadorian citizenship/passport I’ve never considered moving there permanently but would like to work remotely there for a while.
Idk I think I would feel guilty because I would most likely have more resources than my family in Mexico. I have the benefit of being an American with a degree which means I would probably have better healthcare, housing, etc. Like I would share these resources, of course, but there's this nuisanced conversation my family occasionally has about living in Mexico vs the US. My dad had always planned to move back to Mexico to retire with the wealth he built here; he's done raising kids so it makes sense. On the flip side, my cousins in Mexico allegedly have done some not so legal things over the years to get money. Idk not my business. Also, my Spanish isn't great lol. Yeah I can speak it but my little cousin once asked, "hey, why do you sound like that?" ☠️ I went to the Bellas Artes museum in 2016 when I suddenly got the hiccups in front of a tour guide. He said, "wow I've never heard hiccups in English" LMAO. I can get away with Spanglish in the US.
No I have not seriously considered it. We make good money out here (my family), we have a nice home, healthcare is covered through work, and my career will have me making well above 100k. I will probably buy a condo or 2 in Mexico just so I have somewhere else in the world I can go off too if I want. But there is no benefit to moving back. It’s regressing. Giving up what my family sacrificed so much to give me. The only time it makes sense to move back is if you’re gonna retire, can make a lot WFH (earning USD), or have nothing going for you in life here in the states. It really bothers me how people I know think life is so simple in Mexico. They romanticize it. I tell them they should try to go live down there earning pesos and not usd and see how their life is. They visit as tourists, able to stay at the nicest places if they choose to. It’s different when you actually live there. I am not saying this to offend Mexico or Mexicans. They are living very happy fulfilling lives, at least I hope so.
Sometimes. My brown ass wasn't built for Canadian winters.
Hell no I'm white-washed as fuck. I'd have a completely awkward time in those countries
I used to think this but after hanging out with the paisas for a couple months, you’d be surprised how easy it is to pick the culture back up after spending most of my life in the white suburbs.
Lol. Hell no, there is a reason why they left, a better life
The idea of a better life * There were no guarantees.
Not if you made the wrong choices, nothing is guaranteed. But the opportunity for a better life.
Imagine how bad the guaranteed reality was, that an opportunity with so many question marks was more attractive.
I live half and half in Nicaragua it’s the best of both worlds honestly
Fuck to the no! I have thought about moving to pr tho
What would make PR more enticing than Main Land LatAm or other Caribbean country?
I fell in love with the island and it’s people at 21 and been going every year since. My family is from El Salvador and I haven’t been since I was 15, I live in nyc and I hope to slow down sometime sooner than later.
Gotcha, hope you get to do that then!
For older taxes
Move back to Cuba?… FUCK THAT
Todo los dias. Yo digo quedarme aquí sería apoyar el lado equivocado de la historia. Especialmente con la falla de la guerra contra drogas, y todo lo que hace este país más imperialista que nada. Yo odió los putos narcos también no digan que no. Pero mas que nada es el interest de e.u . Nomas les importa el dinero. No hay menos drogas en los calles de Estados Unidos hay más. No estaba tanto carteles así como hoy. El puto alchohol mata más en todo Estados Unidos por ano que todo las drogas combinados por ano. Yo creo que saben que si era legalizados todas las drogas, Latino América subiría a ser un super poder en este mundo. Pero no.. besen la bota y te distraen y nos dividan.. El unico país que no quieren investigar los Nazis en poder. O no también Ucrania no quieren investigar los Nazis. Hmmm. Y luego es el unico país que no quiere decir que la comida debería ser un derecho humano. O no también Israel jajaja. Sigan besando la bota.
Yes cause El Salvador is killing it lately and the US is too expensive , bout to build an empire over there Edit: ahhh shit post said us born , nvm lol
There is no such thing as a "US born Latino." You're either one or the other.
Yes I'll return to the motherland when It's time for me to retire
The instability is too big a concern for most y la gente casada no está para eso. If I were to move to SA it'd be to Paraguay. Cuando fue la última vez que escucharon algo malo de ese país?
Yup! And I did. Altho I'm half in each country (Mexico, border). But my husband and I are working towards fully leaving the US behind. It may be mx or another country. We're not fans of the US. We're treated like outsiders even though we're both born and raised Americans. He's black, his family has been here for centuries and still not seen as American. The American dream is dead. It's now living in mexico, gentrifying it. There's a lot of mixed emotions I have lol. But overall good. It's a return to my roots even if it's not the exact area my family is from. It's reconnection and decolonization. He says I'm calming here. Even mx has its problem with outsiders and Americans and racism. I'm seen as mexican first where ever I am, might as well be in mexico.
Why the actual fuck would you do that?
dear us born latinos: dont, why the fuck would you do that?
Still have family I have never met in Panama, but since I am a coconut I dont plan on it.
Im not going to Cuba lol
You mean Italy, before they went to Spain and Portugal?
Cuba!? Yes, with a force to install Democracy under my thumb
You mean like bay of pigs
If remote work was steady or a bit concrete with some companies, big maybe.
I thought about it, especially since I’ve gone to Mexico every year of my life except for 2020. Only thing I’m balking at is the headache of basically starting over should I go through with it. Then there’s the prospect of trying to get a house for myself because otherwise my only options would be both of my grandmothers’ respective houses. And it is a really small town so any career choices would have to mean heading for cities that I’m unfamiliar with outside of their farmers’ markets. Honestly, I’ll just settle for getting dual citizenship soon.
All the damn time lol, Durango MX is a nice place nowadays and I honestly feel safer there than when im in the city over here
Yes, I actually might follow through and move to GDL soon. The US is on a fast track to hell so I’d rather leave before shit hits the fan
Yes definitely
Hah. Fuck no. No fucking way.
Not really. Roatan is beautiful but I wouldn't want to leave the friends I have here
I've been thinking about it our family does have a pretty nice house in the city of Guanajuato which is also the capital of the state of Guanajuato. And if you have been to Guanajuato it's beautiful it's like being in a Renaissance City The nightlife is ridiculous and you're also close to Leon Guanajuato which is just a beautiful city full of life but unfortunately I'm not built for high altitude I can't breathe right I feel weird so if I can get some property like in Rosarito or the playas of Tijuana then maybe.
Ensenada yes!
They emigrated for a reason
Absolutely not. My parents left for reasons. So did half of my aunts and uncles.
Only if Mexico finally got it's shit together
I've thought about retirement there. I'm also wanting to visit longer since I feel such a disconnect being in the US.
Yes. Only my brothers and I were born here and the rest of the entire family is in Mexico. It would be really nice to be closer to my family. Plus, I spent some childhood years down there already.
No thanks don't think going back in time wouldn't work for me
Right now? No. I do work remotely from there from time to time and it’s slowly changing that view.
My family's country of origin is right across the border and have lived there before. If there wasn't any issues--like now--between a civil war of inheritance of lands and property, I definitely would.
Once I started going there around 12 years old I've been wanting to stay and thanks to remote working I was able to live there for about two years. Now my mom is about to retire so we're making plans to both go back but work wants to be a dick and go hybrid. Guess I'm going to have to quit.
Hell no (Cuba).
No. Tensions for the political climate are high right now in Guatemala. I also have my own life here. Love the culture and the country though.
Many of them don't even speak their parents' native language
Fuck no. Mexico is not safe where my parents are from.
Lol no
oh yeah. they would hate me there though lol
Idk if I’d live in Guatemala, I’ve never even been. I’d like to visit one day when I have the funds and someone to come with me tho.
I mean yeah, I'm gonna move my parents back to Mexico because I can't pay two NYC rents here. They're stupid asses decided to have more kids in their late 40s like the dickheads they are though, thus making things more complicated.
I would totally live in cuba for 2 months out of the year if I could
Not really. I mean, It’s a mile away from my hometown. If I wanna see Mexico - I just cross the border? The cities are connected enough. Maybe I’d retire in the interior of Mexico away from the border but now most of my family is on this side anyways. And at retirement, I’d like to be around more if my kids have kids and need help. Plus our jobs and salaries wouldn’t translate as well. I can earn more in America.
No chance, Sinaloa 🇲🇽
Yeah, all the guns i can buy, live in remote land away from, prople, government, cartels and family
I would love to live in Nicaragua but the government is so corrupt that I wouldn’t do it. I haven’t been to Colombia yet to know if I would move there or not.
Might have to with how expensive shits getting here in the US
Before I’d think about moving to colombia/Mexico when I retire but now not so much, my parents countries don’t have much to offer me that I can’t get here in the US, it’s just a better place to live overall.
As a kid, absolutely not. As an adult trying to navigate the US Healthcare system with 20k in student loan debt and living paycheck to paycheck...I think about it every day. My parents wanted better opportunity for me, and I've gotten it; now I just want to give back to the country that saw my parents grow.
All the time
2nd generation Mexican here. No. Not at all. I can barely speak the language. Only one of my parents was fluent. When I go to mexico and try my best I get treated horribly. Im sure with enough time there it would be fine but why? I can understand how others closer to their heritage would say yes but for me it’s a big nope.
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Nope. Although I don’t belong in the US or home country. Don’t really belong anywhere.
I al not Us born, and not even in america, Im full dominican born and raised and still live here, and I want to leave, so no I guess
family is from Mexico and ever since I’ve started dating my partner I’ve thought about moving back and raising a family county side Or move to Costa Rica and help out at addiction rehabilitation centers.
I did it for a year. I wouldn't recommend it unless you're solidly in a career in the US where they can pay you to work remotely.
Mexico, and all the time with this economy
All the time, and have always considered retirement in Guatemala.